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This is dry when Josh Graham podcast Drive weekday afternoons 3 to 7 to support his other triad regarding Saturday's game. I have requested is there a more difficult do more dive basketball feet. You remember watching them what Ray Jones did at the end of regulation. I don't even know the most difficult part of what was at the just passing it off of the front of the iron the tracking down the ball beyond the three point line or getting the shot off in time to force overtime. I put that right into the same category as the pass from Grantville to Kristin Lightner completing the shot against Kentucky in the NCAA tournament. I put it right there with the Chris bosh rebounding kicked out to Ray Allen who positioned his feet so quickly to hit that three for the Miami Heat back in 2013 that was game six against the San Antonio Spurs.

So that's one question that I have and secondly I don't want to go recency bias. The latest thing we seen is the greatest thing we talk about a 100 year rivalry of Duke and North Carolina. Let's have the recent limited chunk be the question is Saturday night's classic the best, Duke, North Carolina game of the coach K Roy Williams era. So the last 16, 17 years since Roy returned to Chapel Hill in 2003 336-777-1600 if you want to China.

I'm biased, but Duke North Carolina is the greatest rivalry in all of American sports. But here's something that hit me being in the building Saturday. It's still the greatest rivalry without any of the enhancers that boost other rivalries. It reminds me of having a great steak. If you have a great steak.

You don't need anything else. Next to it. You don't need to have A1 steak sauce will need to add ketchup for God sake.

I know so many people do that roll my eyes every single time you don't need to have it fully cooked. If you are having a great steak.

That's what Duke, North Carolina. Is it doesn't need NCAA tournament meetings. It doesn't need postseason run and the way that Alabama and Clemson has in the last five years.

It doesn't need to have bad blood necessarily. When was the last major altercation we've seen between Duke and UNC go back to Tyler Hansbrough and Gerald Henderson in 2007. In those two years later did a podcast together. So I will though I don't know if there's a lot of bad blood. They are necessarily meanwhile when you look at some of these other heated rivalries, Yankees, Red Sox need to have some of that bad blood to get people to watch. The only reason people talked about Kansas versus Kansas State international wife was because Sylvia Desouza was wielding a stool at the end of that game talking about Kansas case state in any other circumstance.

Secondly, neither team has ever dominated this rivalry for an extended stretch regardless of what the records are. I was dead wrong talking about this game on Friday. I thought Duke was going to win big. They proved me wrong. I will own that.

But for those who think Ohio State and Michigan is a better rivalry when is the last time Michigan beat Ohio State when's the last time Michigan won a national championship. Even with Yankees, Red Sox, the Red Sox have done their part Yankees have wanted to pitch up since 2009, so I don't think it really compares also the red Red Sox. They just been more dominant over the Yankees and vice versa. But here's the part I think puts way over the top. This is the part that made coach K get emotional on Saturday. It didn't have anything to do with this team. It's the self identifying piece of this rivalry that makes it special. There aren't many rivalries in sports that are so great that part of the way you view yourself as a Duke fan is a Carolina fan as a former Tar Heel former blue devil part of your being is your rifle part of your identity is your rifle all those years. Coach K went head-to-head with Dean Smith and now is gone head-to-head with another Hall of Famer was emulated Dean Smith and Roy Williams Duke in a sense, has become Carolina basketball. That might sound crazy, but Art Jansky who wrote the bad blood books.

The battle of the blue books that have sold upon in this state have been very successful.

He was sitting in the back row.

The press conference on Saturday for coach K towards the end he just brought up the fact that Dean Smith five years ago Friday, passed away and coach K wanted to talk about and what Dean Smith meant to him and has impacted him as a coach and here's what he said I'll be forever grateful to him. He was the guy who was there choosing the Olympic coach in the room said Mike should give Mike should have gone from us are crying because it's a hell.

So that's the personal side of the self identifying piece came later in his answer part. The other thing recognizes the loyalty of his players, which we have now we know a lot of that stuff we strive to emulate from what he now we have to program schedule and they both play tonight and in a magnificent day coach K getting moved to tears talking about how Dean Smith coached and how he's emulated that family aspect the loyalty aspect. It speaks to why the Duke North Carolina rivalry doesn't need enhancers.

It's just the greatest rivalry in American sports. I don't want to hear and argument otherwise.

336-777-1600 on Twitter at sports of dry Brenda marching to join us from the athletic as Duke that set the pace Florida State tonight, but nobody really wants to talk about that game because everybody is still focused on what happened in the Smith Center on Saturday night. I think Trey Jones is thought shot. It was the most difficult do or die basketball feet I've ever seen.

Like if you and I went into the parking lot.

Robert where we went to a local gym. How many times would we have to try what Trey Jones did in order to execute it.

Is there anything in basketball that comes close that needs as many variables accomplished by an individual to happen.

Like the Kristin Lightner shot Grant Hill half of it was the pass. The rebound from Chris bosh kicking it to Ray Allen.

All of this was orchestrated by Jones hitting it off the front iron tracking down the rebound hitting the shot I've seen nothing like it. So this rivalry that has given us so many memories. I'm just in all, I was in the building.

I still am today. I'm just in all how this rivalry continues to give us things that leave our jaws dropped. Yes or ridge mill is 95 playoff that the big breeze, the back freeze and don't forget, I think it was John Starks who missed two free throws at the rebound over Anthony Mason right and Reggie Miller gets fouled so I think if my memory serves correct. He had eight points in either nine or 11 second that is correct.

Eight points to win that game for the next spot to the point I just made with the Trey Jones Kristin Lightner comparison here. How many variables had to play into it was Anthony Mason turned it over the baseline and threw it away as a player went down to step back three so we had the two threes, but so much had to happen.

That was out of Reggie's control, but he stole the ball he stole emails but he did by replicating waiting at the free throws right see if you can find on YouTube Robert because it's one of my favorite things that's ever happened in 30 for 30 John Starks reaction John Starks reaction to Reggie Miller's play. I think he had a very memorable line that on the 30 for 30 it shouldn't be hard to find but that's one piece of it. The Trey Jones aspect 336-777-1600 is the phone number I'm trying to remember exactly what John Starks said there at the ESA did this dude just did this the one that sticks out is this the most memorable or will decide the greatest Duke North Carolina game in the modern era of Duke, North Carolina basketball will just say in the era of K facing Roy. It's funny when I tried to recount some of the great games.

One of the more memorable finishes we've seen over the years, Duke authored many of the wind Austin Rivers hitting the shot. The overtime game with highest Jones scoring nine straight points for the blue Devils, Julia local, foreign, overtime, I was the first game since Dean Smith passed away back in 2015 you had to come back in the Smith Center with grace and Alan with Brandon Ingram.

Those are all Duke Wentz also. Also, you have last year's games.

I am Williamson hitting the put back shot to put Duke in the lead in the final five seconds I was in the ACC tournament to really good teams.

I was lucky enough to attend that game as well. The only one that was a late game. North Carolina wind I could think of dramatic memorable game was the Smith Center and Marvin Williams hitting the shot in 2005 Brian Ives from ESPN stats and info actually chimed in on this and said Roy Williams when he beats Duke has beaten Duke with North Jonas is returning at 2003, the average win has been by nine point so there haven't been is many dramatic finishes at the end of the game that have resulted in Carolina wins over the so I've narrowed it down to I think three. Maybe we can do for here memorable games based on all the responses I'm getting. I think it's the Austin Rivers game.

It's the one we just saw on Saturday.

If the 2005 game in the Smith Center and the ACC tournament gamers. I am Williamson got the game-winning shot. Those are the four I think qualify as the greatest Duke North Carolina games played between Roy Williams and Dr. that's what I'm narrowing it down to the terms of difficult feats. I've gotten everything from tile guy making all three free throws late and that final four game against Auburn Michael Jordan shots over E Loewen Russell, those are often mimicked what's blow through these calls very quickly. Let's go to Stuart Stewart in Greensboro is what the Stuart give me the best, Duke, North Carolina game between Coach K and Roy Eldridge were encouraged and Roy well your Duke brand would have to be one law last night. You're talking Carolina altogether prior to the bathroom for Carolina would be one of the three I would say the Walter Davis shot Montross what game that night.

You are the cable shot 95 shot definitely a great one.

Thank you Stuart I barely I could care less about victory Carolina thank you for the phone call. Eight years to the day Saturday was eight years to the day of Austin Rivers game-winning three and it was 25 years to the week. Jeff Capel hit the shop for second overtime, but of course Stuart mentioned North Carolina ended up winning the game who did we learn the most about in the Smith Center, Saturday bring the marks from the athletic will join the show to discuss next sports talk.

If you are talking about it.

I'm talking truthful. We're talking about this radio drive with Josh Graham and David Shumate from the blue double field IMG sports network. I remember going up to David after the game ended on Saturday. Probably an hour after things finished up in the Smith Center. I simply asked him whether any voice cracks in the final moments he said, dude, I don't know. Well, it turns out, might be a couple in there, but I think certainly we be understanding of it. Considering how shocking things were on Saturday night when I'll be enjoined by Brenda Marx from the athletic Carolinas covers Duke and North Carolina.

He's on twitter at Brendan are marks Brendan who did we learn the most about on Saturday. I don't know. We learned about good reminder of affected tradeshow. A lot of people nationally, locally burning carry the production and think this is the guy who absolutely grind down the portal.

That's very true is essential if you proceed and run this year but at the same time burning carry out about four minutes left.

You count 13, and those are still able to come back because of tradeshow leader. The team might not be the alpha score on the team but got tons time gut check time. Trey Jones is a God relies on the think a lot of people have forgotten that about and Saturday was a perfect reminder of why I'm just to give you a list of surprising things that happened Saturday. Aside from the obvious.

At the end of regulation which Trey Jones is shot and also Trey Jones missing a free-throw leading to the missed shot that he'll probably call the past 10 years from now that window more finish to win the game. You let me know which of these is the most stunning and these are things that maybe we forget after the fact Walker Miller being at the free-throw line to put North Carolina ahead in overtime a Duke Carolina game he played only two minutes again going into Saturday coal.

Anthony has turnover at the end of regulation that Jordan gold wire stripped away, leading to the Garrison Brooks block Matthew hurt burning carry both of them in foul trouble 4006 minutes for her carry 18 points of the first half, none in the second bowed out at the underfloor timeout then you also have the efforts I think it almost felt like the Wizard of Oz for North Carolina, where this is like what you wanted the dream sequence to look like with leaky black Christine Keeling and Andrew Playtex playing well heck Miller given you things, but despite the supporting Caspian great reality sets in.

It looked like it was just all a dream ends up winning at the very end of the game. What was the most surprising piece singularly from what transpired in state in the semester.

Yeah, I think a lot of people going to Walker Miller. Now it occurred in real time. Walker Miller here. Minutes of the game in overtime with your your chili ever did really more so about the way you and keep supporting Wrapped up in the first time all year employee tracking Keeling and Pierce. I think collectively together and express how much they been this year and you I don't want to and you start entirely on them and their certainly their failure to produce the time to do something that had directly and indirectly lead you into losing some game so those guys stepping up in the biggest game of their season so far, playing the way they did against guys who are far more for the count just far more far better in general acquired. I thought I was incredibly shocking and for UNC fan must've been so hard to see because if you got to play like that on a nightly or even weekly basis. There's a chance in North Carolina.getting a lot of response to a question I asked earlier today was Trey Jones is playing at the end of regulation that sequence where he intentionally missed the fact Mr. Powell shot tracked down the rebound and hit the shot at the buzzer.

The most difficult do or die basketball feet we've seen and we've gotten a lot of things Kristin Lightner the Ray Allen shot in 2013, Robert said right before we came into the segment, the Kawai Leonard shot. You can't get that shot the fall, the way it did against Philadelphia if you tried it 100 times and falling away someone else at Lebron James his winner over the raptors a few years ago in the playoffs.

How many times would it take Brendan Marks in the gym to try and re-create what Trey Jones did Saturday night. I can say with all confidence that would be back in getting that stadium center next year for play, died in that gym if you had to do that in order to get out of the gym to get food once you die in that gym.

I'd like to think now I'd like to know that I would learn that I would take steps to the right night director better luck that easy.

But going but going back and watching the video again that the coolest part of me is not the shot. Not really going getting it on rebound to be able to have that tracking ability that that particular grade before we let you go was Saturday night.

Good enough for you because I'm right before the game we were chatting your like man it's I want to get out here soon as possible. Man, I got plans, got to do things on Saturday night I got a feeling that was a late night for you Saturday.

It was certainly but you know what if there was ever an opportunity for my plan oiled. I would want the oil that one of the best college that is really not game this rivalry is the reason why I came back doing athletic reason I want to cover costs for it always delivers people say that it doesn't always delivers delivered again and I'm an idiot for thinking anything otherwise. Brendan ice are your things in the background you do Florida State. I am I I'm right outside that you fill in.

All right, will hate you you you take care of yourself. Be vigilant and we'll talk soon… That's Brendan Marks at Cameron on Twitter at Brendan are marks. Try getting your sports news and talk somewhere else. My life sucks already that you best to leave it right here drive with Josh Graham Geisinger of ACC sports.com's and with us now MPG.

There were countless shocking details with dupes when Saturday. So much so I bet some of them of been forgotten by many Tar Heel fans. Blue Devil fans or anybody just watching on at that classic overtime win. What would you have said to me BG if you and I were having a discussion Friday and I told you in a 9191 game in overtime.

Walker Miller was going to go to the free-throw line and put North Carolina in the lead against the blue Devils.

I think it would've been pretty surprised but not completely shocked. Given North Carolina's rotation this season and given just how willing Roy Williams is to to go to the parts of his bench. However, to your point. Yeah, I mean, it would've, it would taken us a little bit by surprise right wise this person in at a critical leverage moment of the game.

It would've been like one of those movie records scratch moments where you just get the image of Walker Miller towing the line then it's like the best record scratch.

I have Robert do you have a better record scratch sound for me… I will tell but I don't ever do you have a little better about as good as you record so that one more time. So you're probably wondering how I got here and then Bill explained the entire day.

I can't wait for the 30 to 30. Maybe we could put that out there.

Walker Miller averaging two minutes again going to do Saturday and had a go ahead point in overtime at the free-throw line.

So you don't find that one to be very surprising. How about this one here: Anthony his turnover at the end of regulation.

I haven't heard anybody talk about this today because of what transpired after that but it was 83, 81, Cole throws it away. He stripped by Jordan gold wire got a piece of it and gold wire dish that the cash Stanley at Harrison Brooks makes a helluva play he blocks him underneath the basket like that gets the board he gets out in his one or two before the Trey Jones sequence, but I think it is normal game. This is probably something were laboring over four hours that cold turned over the basketball there but today no one seems to care.

Yeah, I think even even though people are going back and looking at some of coals are likely game and a couple head scratching plays but really the big one was with the belt with a little under two minutes left UNC was 79 to 70° at an early clock shot and you pushed it up and Trey Jones hated AOC on the break for three that made it. It went from a 9.26 point game with about a minute, 45, I think left after that and it was all triggered because Cole took a really I think hopefully pretty well Saturday, all things considered. I thought at times he was really impressive but on weight gain. Yeah, he had a couple decisions offensively and then some possessions guarding Trey where he was maybe not quite up to his standard of play. Lastly, how about Matthew Herbert committing four fouls seven minutes of the game made him a nonfactor altogether was 4006 minute Vernon Carey as great as he was in the first half. He had no points.

The second half found how under for timeout. These are things that just become details that we forget about as time goes on.

But that's crazy and shocking in its own right.

Considering Duke one on the road in Chapel Hill without Terry scoring in the second half and fouling out late in Matthew Herbert being completely a nonfactor goes back to what I've said on the show and a few other places this season and written about some tuba like it goes back to Duke's depth enough blood and saying is it's not just the fact that they have 10 good players.

You know, five or six of whom will play in the NBA. Eventually it had taken place so many different styles and have a coaching staff that's willing to play different styles of basketball and tailor the offense to those styles, a place, while tubelike hurts. Nonfactor do basically play small with four guards around here even though he sort of struggling to score at times in the second half are for drop yeah I do. If eligible, but it's also in overtime then to really it's the last nine minutes of the game. If you want to factor in Cary fouling out in overtime of tube just playing five guards on the court the same time you is you get to good big guys Brooks and Bay cotton. Interesting yet come at us, and when the more junior it wasn't just him being opportunistic on the office glass he was battling guys in the post offensively and and I'm just I think that goes to one of the strengths that Duke has if you try to make a case for them is a vinyl 14. This drives that starts with the with the talent within specially carrying Jones and Stanley to but it just that there depth and versatility is out of it's quite unmatched in the ACC because Louisville enforced they can move move pieces on the chessboard around a little bit too but it is something that differentiates them from a lot of teams in the country. I just want to know what you made of Duke starting the game small and then being able to rally in this game with the small lineup.

Remember, Matthew Hurt started this game on the bench they they went with Jack White when Delmore and Vernon Carey as the frontcourt.

If you can consider more a wing small forward type. I thought that was interesting because I thought with: Anthony starting at the point without B Robinette backcourt.

The real issue would be rebound the ball so I thought if Trey Jones is responsible for coal. The big concern would be how do you rebound Mrs. how do you control the team that is number one in the country in rebounding in North Carolina.

I was surprised to see the small lineup and more so, how successful it was. Despite Duke falling behind in the early part of the game, how effective they were late when they had to play small yeah I mean this is something they've done before in the past, but you remember Sue like that when they put out some of the smaller guys that allows them to switch some defensively to like there the athleticism of some of these guys mean Stanley is is notable, but trays are really underrated athlete, Trey Jones, and it's always so is one the more junior further for that matter to you know they just state when they do that they say yes worry me a little bit vulnerable in the glass in UNC. They rebounded 32% of the Mrs. in the skin. It's a pretty good number but still get to dictate the terms of play right they open up driving lights thing to switch more defensively and we saw when Carrie went down they basically stop running pick up role. I charted this game. They ran one pick and roll. The final nine minutes of the game after Vernon Carey ended it was all transition running with those guards. It was all isolation, spreading the court and driving right at Christian Keeling right at: Anthony guys that had played no 40+ minutes. At that point and I think that was part of what made the difference in this game as well to Brian Geisinger with this year. He's on Twitter at the guys_bird read his stuff@accsports.com you will see his rankings. My rankings DG's rankings tomorrow. It ACC sports.com one through 15, where we have the our weekly ACC rankings from top to bottom last October we had the preseason poll and I went back and revisited that you remember when North Carolina was picked at the top. I'm sure second. Yeah, I mean they were having this team on paper. Coming into this season was set up to be a monster right you look like what they did last night. Yeah for for portions of the game for sure. But even that I was sort of expecting immediately. User said this before I came on the show but your link you got off to a good start. I expected this conformance from him all season. Plus shooting plus like a three point shooting.

I thought key is the version Keeling you'd see more but even he still so dependent on the midrange.

It has been all season wiki for that matter to.

I think I also underestimate just how much they would miss Kam Johnson in his ability not just to be out there be a guy that makes 40% of his threes, but having someone looking at their runaround screens and been to move the defense without the basketball like a Swiss (Robinsons out like he was Saturday they take coal off the ball and run him off screens try to get him a cup. That is a couple times and again try to get him looks off the cats because they don't have a ton like movement range shooters on the roster right now but yet to to your point like this team. I thought there would be awesome.

I thought they were possibly win the league and in content for a final four. Like I wrote about that extensively in the preseason and I could not have been more wrong.

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The phone number Fair and unfair criticisms of officiating and on top of that, I do think that there is no interesting elements to the national coverage of this classic game is not merely talk sports is most you would like what you got. This is dry Josh Greyhound takes Pringle it's time for us to get crazy to do it at this time every single week that globally just hot fire.

Let's dive headfirst into it. Bring the marks going to join us a little bit later on covers Duke and North Carolina for the athletic. Let's get the hot text.

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The Duke North Carolina that if I said if we did the segment on Friday and I just how the details that actually happened. They would've worked out to be like. Let me give you an example very quickly if I did this on Friday.

Do you think this would qualify for a horn like Trey Jones would think a shot off the front of the rim grabbed his own rebound and hit a shot at the buzzer. Talk about if that was all. Let's get crazy last Monday I think I'm getting this out. Vernon Carey doesn't score in the second half talk about house out with four to go by Walker Miller. Please tell the free throw line and five game 9191 about the put North Carolina ahead of do all those things would just not quickly 61 600 is the phone number the whole game is a let's get crazy segment what Justin is up first. Justin, let's get crazy. I think they wanted to. All right, thank you for the phone call. I don't know that's very like not everybody hates the one who likes that's pretty cold.

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Yeah, you do better than that. 777-1600 is the phone number bring that hot fire Erin, let's get started right after watching the bill yesterday will actually scratch that. Later that night Thomas and corn hole you know who also lukewarm old leveler. No assault sale normal day. Would Joan do you not sure how much corn hole and change the channel and the studio broadcast: ESPN B is the frisbee cougar mixing that neither sale normal nor daily journals to be the starting quarterback of the restricted franchises in two years. I actually played Ryan time beat him and Jermaine Pratt High Point High Point. Then head to head all right I got this one here the Oscars last night and I feel like Quentin Tarantino who says he has one more movie left after Once upon a time in Hollywood. He's going to do is in final movie on the Duke North Carolina game except North Carolina is going to win at the you know how I want to spoil Once upon a time in Hollywood, but changes history a little bit. Let's say an inglorious pastor. It's a different way different into the Nazi regime, then I think history reflects. Maybe things will change differently, how will become more entertaining North Carolina game under Tarantino's guide would somebody get blown up with us all the sawed-off shotgun. There doesn't need to be authority for 30 done on this life. It starts game day going to Chapel Hill people saying it's good to be an awful game could have a cut for my radio show where I say it's a blow out Purdue and then the jersey part of this, the 100 year anniversary. The game itself, like I already see the 30 for 30 coming together and Tarantino's gonna win an Oscar for best director and also for best picture with this movie that comes out about the Duke North Carolina game. Robert, let's get crazy Rivers is gonna sign with the books and take them all the way to the NFC champion Super Bowl yeah I'm not that crazy us to have a little integrity but all the way to the championship when the NFC South, probably to do that. Kevin Salo let's get crazy. Kevin now all you want to go hey Sean Sean go go to Greensboro Salem Kevin year-round like screaming over Sega And how are you doing here. I don't know why, just like all the landscape crazy. A Taylor Swift is one of the most overrated is one of the orders of our generation justification of our dad bought 300,000 of her CDs when she started her career to get her first tell me your plan last two years the Oscars hasn't had a host Kevin Hart is good to host next year's Oscars, the best choice right like they haven't had the last two years that's become a story Kevin Hart like not watch what his monologues could be after not being able to host the Oscars in 2019.

That seems like it's going to be a really good that Aaron let's get crazy. Antonio Brown, after watching P. J. Walker as the performers will use the roughness.

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He was really enjoyed it and whether cyborg or run around the way back when these fights have done better and good morning training in the midst, three 367-1600 if you want to play along were getting crazy. Trey Jones lottery pick my soul in mock drafts that he is 20th and 21st into respectively, which doesn't have them as a lottery pick, but this just comes to show you the exposure college basketball gives kids different than what you're getting. Oversee so you can convince me that college basketball's ratings machine these big games with Zion played didn't help Zion, who was at the top ranked player going into class college basketball season. It actually was RJ Barrett and Kam reddish ahead of him and these and those rankings when it comes to tradeshow and no longer being with Zion RJ gives him an opportunity to stand alone and that shot the head against North Carolina really the running.

He went on scoring 15 straight double points. I think that put them on the radar. Many NBA scouts. This is a softer draft. Remember last year it was kind of surprising.

Cameron Johnson got picked and he was a lottery pick that might be something we see footage Trey Jones was a wonderful kid. He's younger than Cameron Johnson was and he stepped up in a massive moment, the way his brother did and Cameron five years ago, Aaron.

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Also the game Saturday night.

Yesterday was Sunday. I will do you have anything left now all all district today in New Orleans. When Logan pulls Logan Bogan. He did that thing in the Japanese forest. It was like the suicide of all was like hey look, and he showed that people not great yell started is just the worst. I don't know anything about YouTube stars streamers like you guys talking about this earlier today we went to lunch and you brought up a streamers name and my who is no sorrier did he run up to you through you guys laughing today that I know it also is all about. Just he says it's the most famous person that knows about his friends with pretty famous right say some old man stuff right now. Not going to. I'm going to resist the joy of waiting expressing themselves where I was wrong and first-hand observations from the Smith Center on Saturday that you're not getting anywhere else. This is a Monday drop you could try getting your sports news and talk somewhere else. My life sucks quite already that your best to leave it right here drive with Josh Graham Duke is going to beat North Carolina convincingly in Chapel Hill, so will your current one. I don't think it's going to be a very exciting jump out. And I think the gonna win this game by more the norm is to go home later and over time.

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He was aided like the Joker did like parasite like anything that one so you know what slandering a Hall of Fame sportswriter Mike. The course I deserve all of that criticism. If North Carolina ended up winning today. I'd imagine today is dreadful but I have some observations. Some first-hand stories from that game on Saturday that I care to share with you now, starting with the moment Vernon Carey fouled out of the game. Talk about under for timeout.

I started searching for gifts and clips on twitter to make fun at myself. I found videos of clowns working in offices like I wasn't paying attention to the next minute and 1/2 of the game because I was only focused on doing some type of damage control for my awful take on Friday doubting this rivalry so I was preparing to get embarrassed even more embarrassed when I was there to say about this game wasn't going to be exciting, but it was the most exciting game you must exciting.

We've seen probably in the latest era of Duke Carolina basketball with Coach K going up against Roy Williams, I was very conflicted watching this game conflicted because I wanted to be right, but also I when I watch games people ask who you root for.

I usually tell them I want the team that plays better to win. It usually steams it hurts me when I see teams that play better than the other side lose play with more effort the play with more passion that do the right things and lose. That's why it was dissatisfying to me to see San Francisco loose to Kansas City in the Super Bowl.

San Francisco, they were better in hand. The city was North Carolina was better then Duke was on Saturday but they lost in that since it was very dissatisfying to me so I was conflicted in that way, but the other thing that had me turning the scales a bit. In addition to just wanting to be right there was a fan sitting behind me who heckled me the entire damn game.

Robert, I'm not kidding. This guy singled me out and just started say hey twitter guy and twitter which unit Josh Graham Josh Graham tell everybody how Coach K Jeter guys belligerently drunk student or not. I don't think he was a student, probably a little bit older, is in his 20s, but as soon as I sit down he goes.

Hey there, I got a good tweet for you.

You should say that Coach K he should be investigated. Like how does he keep getting these number one classes come in every year. The entire game.

The scouts I got a good tweet for you Alex O'Connell's do you like it. Basically what it is by about that game for me personally on Saturday. The entire second half. His target, the person he was making fun was it O'Connell wasn't Jack White was a burning Carey. It was Trey Joan. He just kept saying Trey Joan scared he's he scared take the shot. This guy scared even when Trey started to go on the run like late in the second half. Trey Jones doesn't want the ball watch watch his next just use what the ball sky sitting right behind my ear.

This gate is one of the ball you wanted, not Mueller shoot and then this and I haven't acknowledged him. I haven't said anything to this guy. When Trey hit the shot that forces over time. I don't know what he looks like I just turn around I make eye contact with them and stare at them that there and he puts his head in his hands, and I turned back around Carolina fan. Hey, I got I got a tweet for you shall admit when he was leaving he said to go to my grave saying that trace scared to take shots and I said yeah I made sure to tweet that is what I said what words I said that I got yeah, that sure to tweet that out those Carolina fats for that game. It's always that game, or so much worse than the folks at Cameron. They are, I've had to so much as people say that the crazies there obnoxious that the worst the Cameron crazies barely start organized in a sense and some of the more shrill some of the more annoying innocent like this is one lady every single time.

Jack White gets called for a file. She's always behind me is yelling now and not gets pretty annoying but I'm not the one getting heckled tickling me this Carolina fan decided to make me the subject of his cycling yeah yeah good sweet for you to do that here in the March to be with us on today show you between us at sports of dryad. I did go into the locker room. Though had a chance to catch up with Trey Jones and with Gwen Delmore and I do think this is going to be remembered as the Trey Jones game. I think that's what this is. He created the iconic moment that's going to be remembered even more than when Delmore hitting the buzzer beating shot. He created the moment like the river shot like the Jeff Capel shot it was eight years to the date of the river shot 25 years to the week of Capel tying the game enforcing double-overtime and Cameron. He didn't like his brother did remember ties Jones North Carolina was leading and Cameron in 2015.

The first game to play Carolina after Dean Smith's passing and Trey had scored nine straight Duke points to force overtime five years ago and that's exactly what trade he scored nine consecutive points of the end of regulation that he added six points.

After that, NOT so I went into the Duke locker room. It's festive as you are about to hear and I just ask Trey what is it mean to you to be in that company to submit yourself into this rivalry in such a way when people bring up Austin Rivers and they bring up your brother and they bring up Jeff Capel. They're going to bring up Trey Jones now to and this is what he said does not really motivate me. My brother in this position, and in the moment myself on.

As for when Delmore he hits the game-winning shot I noticed though and you can watch the video and see this. I noticed in real time. A delay in his celebration. Everybody else is celebrating boisterous and loud.

The blue Devils coming off the bench window. It took a second or two that stuck with me immediately watching in real time. So I brought that up the window. It might've been nothing turns out it wasn't.

I found this answer to be interesting from when Delmore Junior on his game-winning shot and I you included the hot take on the Oscars or excuse me, like Corsi being dead wrong about parasite. I am a huge moviegoer. I've made that clear. That was the most satisfying Oscars. I've watched in for five years, if only to go back to spotlight winning in 16 for the last Oscars I thought was this satisfying but it wasn't even just parasite being recognized.

It was also Brad Pitt getting his moment. It was the first time he won an Oscar and I don't think people realize that he wasn't awarded for 7/12 monkeys wasn't awarded for some of the other great roles he's played over the years he gets his moment right from the jump and I thought that was really cool.

It was a pretty neat moment to see a former NFL player, Matthew Cherry, a wide receiver get the award for best animated short film and it's just fitting. He's a former NFL player to get that award because that's the same award Toby Bryant one a few years ago and he dedicated Toby back before winning his profile picture on Twitter is of one of his kids and Kobe Bryant, and in 2016 when he got finished blank. He actually put out a post and that hey I have this idea that might be an Oscar winning idea he quotes. We did that after winning last night and said they'll that's pretty cool and it was called hair love a very cool animated short that ended up being the Oscar winning film parasites just an excellent movie to root for my soul are our morning show hose Clay Travis suggesting that if the movie was made in America, not South Korea. It wanted have won best picture I can't disagree with that, more than I do right. I can't dispute disagree with that enough. It is a movie that had limitations put on it. Limitations because it has subtitles because it has a director doesn't speak great English that didn't enhance it. I get Clay's argument hey there trying to do the most politically correct thing. Okay.

If that's the case why didn't Roma when last year Roma was also the favorite to win a year ago. It was a Spanish-speaking movie. There was no English and it and if you want to do the most politically correct thing that with things that are related to American culture. Why not a movie that's based in the state in the city of Mexico City and in go that route, so I couldn't disagree more with the notion that the reason parasite one was because of being politically correct. It was just an amazing movie that were to remember years from now if you get a chance to watch it. I was cagey on what I'm not a big fan of international movies. I don't like the subtitles. I'm honest in saying that I'm not to be the guy who's elitist sent all foreign films you have to dive into all of SME but Les Johnson covers David to get digested. Josh, you're gonna forget about the subtitles five minutes it and he was right and I watched it twice and I think it's a tremendous movie and it's well deserving of the Oscar. I thought for sure they were to give it to 1970. That's the way I felt and it was good to be a bit of a dissatisfying taste with the Oscars because that's what we seem really the last decade or so. Look at the 2000 that decade in the 90s.

The best picture winners and compare them to the best pictures that have one in the last 10 years.

It's not even comparable in the 2000 you got no country for old men. You had departed that one. One year, you have million dollar baby that one in a given year just heavy hitters each and every year in movies this past decade it's been the shape of water.

You had green book the artist. These are not movies that are gonna be incredibly memorable and I think it dates back to 2009 when they started expanding the field and having preferential voting where you have nine Oscars best picture candidates versus five I think the door being open to nine versus five has watered down. The quality of Oscar-winner so I wasn't really optimistic going in the last night they do the right thing because of the way I felt after 19 after a green book lawn and after the shape watered. But they did, they they chose what I believe to be the best movie last year.

I didn't think was gonna happen. That's my my pick was different than what ended up being the winner, but I'm so glad it ended up being parasite.

I thought it was a really cool show in a very satisfying Oscars. You are listening to W STS Winston-Salem WCL to Greensboro WPC in Burlington W MFR Highpoint those signals making up sports triad