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April 28, 2021 8:25 am

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April 28, 2021 8:25 am

From Mormon to Jesus!  Real, authentic conversations among former members of The Church Of Latter-Day Saints.

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Your right and him and will be go home. It's hard going, experience like that back to normal life after two years, so he wanted to know a little bit about how your mission was especially you have somebody missionary quite some guessing things will look it up for you.

Yeah yeah I was excited to go home because I really like college is excited to go back and yeah you know just going all be with my family and knowing the language in this exciting but also terrifying to know who I was my own identity had been wrapped up in this idea that I'm a missionary, so it was it was a really rough transition going home and trying to figure out how you fit in the world. Also feeling like I thought my calling was to be a missionary but no, you go home, and the like while you're done with that now you know that Nick Cannon is the kind of give lip service to this idea of being a member missionary you know you're still missionary when you go home, but it's not that all the same. Every rearm can attest that you know it's not the same thing at all. So it is not his.

So yeah, I was really rough, but I didn't like being home, especially since I was thrown right into college, like I got home first week of August and then you know like two weeks later I was back in college and I was sitting calculus to like physics to that I could remember and physics want to Calc one is really rough so I to go back and review everything. Why was learning new stuff and only that, but I met a girl in my last area I mission and we had kind of like start talking.

After I got home and so it was our talk online and you know talk about your relationship she was. She was really nice of them is much as to elect to convert a recent convert, and that it but it turns out that it is just a very early, go to is not a very good relationship is just she is the person I thought she was. But anyways I don't work out so that added to the stress and the pain of you know I like you know I was probably just naïve and I was hoping like maybe if we were Jesus will her soft neck. We clicked. At first, but it didn't work out. The party also had a wish. Like maybe if we dated, you know, I could keep part of my mission. You know, like maybe we we got married that I can keep my mission with me so they is, naïve no idea my part, but as I was going back and thinking about all these positive experiences on a mission was trying it was was trying to relive that experience. But but I got it and work out so capital part is that yeah but the artist was depressing to think about me on that. Your home and I was. I remember asking my bishop multiple times. I was going to my single board, not with the intention of yielding married or something but just because our ward and I love people my age so I politely connect with them better ice member asked my bishop title Mike, calling like I just feel like useless guy just do something and I don't I don't matter what it is and it was like months and months before I actually got calling and by atomic I just didn't care anymore and so I felt rejected by God and only got 100 maybe I didn't do is get my mission as I should have or may be, especially at the break up and then stressing home and just everything all piling up was like this for like I was alone again, you know, a Catholic ice and have God in my life so you is incredibly difficult experience of the time seducing her son Mel the super calling and not one of the summer months and transition the same in his own judgment by God to do someone's equated. The only gesture with God even yeah I think so. I think it's natural to feel like because the church is always telling you this to past Revelation, there is the path through personal revelation in prayer. There's the path through the priesthood authority in the church.

So it seems like it within this authoritarian structure really can't have the complete you can't be completely united to God by yourself. You have to access God through the church so I felt like when I was getting his calling it public is being ignored and I know the bishop was trying to do that not I will end up with the claimant is another day they get busy and and I think it hasn't, maybe, has of you to do it by paperwork, not transferring over from my home ward. I don't exactly normal details, but it just felt like yeah like I being rejected. Not getting this this calling for like it was God himself, those kind of pushing me away and it is difficult to get through that I'm not entirely sure how I got over it.

To be honest, but I meant time heals all wounds, right statement, but I think you like a sister so they just getting over the breakup having space and time.

After that, and getting through this kind of rejection and kind of just getting back to normal and feeling like okay and I missionary Moreno just just your return missionary just got a deal that is taken over Iraq bill to go back and do that again. But what's funny is ice like. Still to this day all have dreams of getting off the train and I'm in France again. You know, being a missionary I could sit so strange to think about that does not have been out of the church were cleared up pleasure, something that is as part of my psyche.

You know, like when we neared for two years are doing the same thing day in and day out.

That's all you want to be. It's like it's a party you can't take it with you that it's it's something like in your soul so I really early. I'm grateful for my mission experience in the transitioning home is difficult, but I and I don't regret it at all. That's just kind of a shame that looking back now I wish I could have had a similar experience but no anyways, I'll go more into two new Job Calvinists. I understood his mission went back to school where we were going to school time will you study on the survey that was something leading into the field with her into the yeah when it went to college my first year. My intention is to become programmer so I was computer science major and I was attending we receive mercy which is in Lagunita and several of the school.

It's a small school but it's teaching university don't really have dedicated research faculty. There's maybe some programs but you know they have a few masters programs but are typically professional so the focus is really on teachings of the professors there will are there because they want to teach. That's what I really liked about it soon enough. A neighbor of mine.

I grew up with grammar and it's actually a chemistry professor in there now, so crazies is my agent graduate with a PhD in chemistry saw shout out to Brandon Bona. Dr. Brandon say the yes of the Weber State University house when I came home from a mission you know I out when I left the mission. I think I was using Java version 5 something like that and I came back from a mission there using my Java version 9 or something so I mean it's basically the same but quite a bit different, so that was kind of cursing about me. Is it all right and I'm tired of light software constantly evolving. I don't want to be in all in my 60s or 70s and realize I have to learn some crazy brand-new software technology saws like maybe or something technical but still will bit more's in all of them were constant.

No not is not as fluctuating as like computer sizes give your senses a great building a an objection having to do a lot of programming for my field anyway so I did completely escape it, but yes, so that's when I was interested in doing engineering is my grandfather, my mom side.

He's he was a mechanical engineer at Thiokol, HEK now I think most of their not around anymore, but they desired the solid rocket motors for the space program so you tell me stories, but all the cool projects he would work on the back of the back of 60s and 70s stuff and so that was classified a declassified so somebody probably couldn't tell me that sums up because is a school there. All the cool products he worked on and I'd had an aptitude and interest in science and physics, chemistry, the mathematics that I think so at all, just fit. So the problem with that is Weaver doesn't have a mechanical engineering program so I had to exit the year two of courses there at Weaver state and that had to transfer so I transferred to University Utah and finish my mechanical engineering degrees are when was a so I graduate my bachelors in science in 2013 and yeah so and in that time. Also, contrary figure out what okay job going to get into. That's when I've been taking this knowledge physics courses and they got into quantum mechanics and nuclear physics and just just a taste of it. Not really deep but I thought it was really cool. Our elected I really like setting radiation I found out there is graduate program in nuclear engineering at University Utah. My guts like ever since I got super psyched about it so I read all about it in all different things you could do with nuclear and I wrote reports for My English Ct., English courses may generally courses related engineering such as really pumped up about it and so ever since then I've been planning to do nuclear cited CFS were bachelors and applied a note for the mass to the graduate program in nuclear such that it received side my Masters therein defend my thesis matzoh that I cited that percent 2015.

Then when I finish that than I want to go onto more schooling so I applied to a state because it's never good to do, you know, bachelors and Masters, PhD often the same school you can do it, but they cannot suggest you branch out a little bit so I played a few programs and originally was going to do something strictly fluids related so I played RPI because I have a really renowned professor and fluids here, but I ended up doing something else, multi-physics, so that's I ended up at the noun in Troy, New York work on that that point RPI that Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute's Newman school so is when I left the dots before I left to come here to RPI in Troy. I had already started to kind of encounter doubts and before that iodide was totally in the church in all 2015 still in but I started to question when I was a teacher for my Sunday school course and I was giving a lesson is_my suppose word and I was to talk about the temple and so I was talking to really like you know Haywood Integra Temple zoning most of you been to the temple is a returned missionary so he shrilled tell me all about it. So I asked what what are the ordinances that we do in the temple on every out really silently got really quiet and I was like, like, what's the big deal you know you can talk about the temple is wrong with that plan I think is just inherent in the LDS psyche looks like dieting.

Be careful.

You want to say too much because that's too bad because the covenants not to reveal anything so you know we talked about so many mentioned battles of the dead and endowments and it's only raises hand and then he mentioned he mentioned the second endowment is like a second endowment sounds familiar. At home I don't know what that is but I'll get back to you on that so that I could see the lesson and I would back to study that and I'm sure you guys have heard of that of the second hour. The second anointing.

This yeah so that was the first I'd heard about it or read about it before the mission, and I kind of just like most of us. I like not some important story about it, but when I went heard about again. You know it. At this point I'd been the college I was nearly done with my Masters degree so I had a little bit more confidence in my ability to reason to look at evidence and rationalize the evidence CO2 to absorb the evidence to analyze and to come to a conclusion about what kind of knockout hypothesis. You could get base around the data so I didn't have to just rely on what others thought about the data you like apologetics or apologists I could actually read it myself and kind of trust that my mind would be able to deduce the logical conclusion, so I ripped read into it and I read from the dialogue. Journal of Mormon thought when they talked about the second anointing and adjusting very strange to me and it really bothered me got under my skin. This idea that I was working so hard.

My mission is working so hard to try to be better to to prove to God that I loved him that had to become something that I wanted to be common trying to rely on Jesus and I felt like I was really praying to Jesus and oil routable plaintively father that Jesus is atomic and making something better and I just really wanted to become like Christ as really want to be a Christlike person and a stomachache just could never get that.

I just felt like this.

This this goal. Like you, like a like a crazy dream where you're trying to get to the doorway and if you like your almost within an arms length and soon as you get there than the door sheets past you and you've got a run another mile to get to a knife like your almost there is moments reflector there, but many that and you lose it will so that that this idea that there is this ordinance that's only given to a select few people that guarantees that you'll enter heaven.

No matter what you do lungs. You don't commit murder or or the setting is Holy Ghost you're guaranteed to go to reach exaltation to become a god etc. etc. that is bonhomie because I just thought about all the good people my life. The work so hard and in need to just working so hard to try to have some comfort, some peace, some assurance and never really getting it. And then these people they got it know these people that received the second anointing.

They did receive this this piece that I wanted and I thought, why, why can't we have access to that. Why is it only for heard this select VIP group.

Why can I have it and it that really dug in and my skin and that have forced me to re-examine my my own views of the church and in the history of the church and didn't stop there. I started to examine the foundations of the restoration of the priesthood.

The whole idea of the book of Mormon knew the validity of the three-day witnesses and their testimonies. Joseph Smith's treasure digging. It is just everything you know started with the second anointing that is just re-examining everything of polygamy to deny just a thought. Not only that you married young women. But the fact that he married women that were already married another man is always all these things just just really just really disconcerting to me just I was just it was his gradual is a very gradual process but like I just felt more and more uneasy over time and at this time I was dating I've been dating someone for about two years now and I feel like this is just a test my faith that this was God testing me in and that I would. I would read and I would seek out the answers and I would find an answer to my my problems to the things that are bothering me, and as time went on I was just kind of got worse and worse and I found more more problems and less and less answers and I just kinda struggled a little bit that summer before leaving for Detroit to attend church tried. I was doing an internship in Idaho so I didn't. I think I attended church there, but not constantly. Those just houses digging into books and trying to solve this problem. You know, Mike is looking at it like an engineer what you just have a probably got a solid site is gotta be answered so that I can keep my faith but but I guess it held onto this this this hope that that as you get through to the end of it and I was to be a stronger latter-day St. out can be like no skin to be representative of the church and I could help other people. Whether this ignited and by the time I've been engaged to be married to go emanating at a time and so I had like a disincentive to want to find answers. I work really hard at it. So you when I moved to Troy started my doctoral studies.

Here I was spending most of my free time just reading just being into any books I could find anything of divine head just kept getting worse and worse and is more more difficult and I just was not finding that the resolution I was hoping for and I got to where I realize like this may like this may not get any better in all that hope and I held onto that I could keep my testimony. I thought I could, I might lose it like I might know my might lose my testimony but I couldn't. I could let anybody know because there is this idea in the other search toilets like if you have doubts you can't really share them because I just have to go along with the flow of the boat the programming pen after the put on a face pretend like everything's okay.

Even though inside I was like a complete mess of stars is so messed up my head and my heart is sick to my stomach just really bad time.

So this was about, so it had been. After about a year and half of kinda started digging into the stuff where spring of 2016 will of preparing for the marriage and she said deny rezoning Mariana Mike not I don't want to like I just got a hold out you know God getting NES I want and I don't know exactly what's what's printed off the notice records from Brigham Young and you know changes to the LDS doctrines just on this stuff just builds up you know that shelf just gets heavier and heavier and just one day.

The stress of that post. The stress of school and exams something like that. I just I just completely cracked and I just completely had a mental breakdown. I just I just told made my fiancé. I told her I can't do this.

I'm done I can handle this anymore like that's premature I said and I told my mom that I told her I Mike you know I can reject what I said is something like you know whatever happened.

Mom does know that I love you have a really cryptic message – off my phone and I was just second just complete despair and I just I think it was a movie you know I got it was raining that day am pretty sure is raining that day so he was walking home in a random 61. Like why God what I just can't. I can't believe that been lied to my home with a blatantly sheltered cracked of like the church can't possibly be true. It's like this. Too many logical contradictions as to there's too many changes, the doctrines, how could God change the doctrine of salvation. One day you'll pretty silliest profit said that you have to be married polygamy on a polygamist marriage to get to heaven and then they change their mind. Years later, just always contradictory messages.

I just couldn't take it and I just lost it. So for like the next few days. I was just inconsolable. I was just in my apartment by myself but no one to talk to no one.

The two event with so I just try to deal with it on my own, probably two or three days later after my phone back on and I just needed not just the time to figure things out so I just took those few days off try to figure out my life and I want to try hold back on. You know I had about 20 messages Alberti messages on my phone pop. About 17 I got a phone call right when I turn my phone back on Michael right at that instant office is Providence or what, but my friend called me and he said early okay yeah all right you know I did know that he knew about my mental breakdown. So is it yeah I mean not really good right now will be okay and he said yeah man it's really hard it really, really said here about what happened in the exhaust abuse is like well like we talked about cases yeah you know so you know, really sorry his own did you find out that the that your fiancé broke off the engagement and so in my mind as I go.

I guess it's office is probably a month and 1/2 away so she broke it off because it based on my message. Nothing I could do it anymore. I could be in the church anymore like I think so she broke off the engagement and house, left there to pick up the pieces by myself.

New York is a really rough time that how you real friends or family here so I just try to figure things out and to who I have figure what I want to believe you will want to go Skyway for a few weeks talk to her and all prior to the bow when we were going I tried I tried I tried to hint at some things I've been struggling with mentioned things like she was she was a returned missionary so she really wanted to be in a church rest of her life but she was kind of like a lot of LDS are I think where you go and you totally how much of the church you believe the church is true, but it's it's a very fine line that without the testimony have kind of anxiousness or fear that there may be just one thing that sets you off her curves of the church is true. So I know I had known in the past, deal based on other conversations, where I was more intellectually open to reading stuff that may not be pro LDS material, but anything like that. If I told her I was reading a book that was, not written by an LDS author something kind of freaked her out a little bit you know should be required reading the book of Mormon, the Re: prayer you are you staying still strong in the church… Again orienting us us know this is something interesting reading that kind of a appeaser, so I knew that if her to bring any of us up with her. I would really scare away not but I tried. I tried to share some things like in a in a nonconfrontational way idyllic, so I was reading about username is like she's it. It's a woman has like five names and she is Mary like three or four times setting an instance of the gazebo exact as anther something that she is. She's one-on-one and it was married.

She is married previously and then she was married pointlessly to Joseph Smith and then after Joseph died she went to live, so she was kind of always staying with her first husband know you know she was married to Judge as she stated the verse husband that on Joseph died Brigham Young came in and kind of like to call over on kind of took all of Joseph Smith's previous wives you took care of them so you cannot pour her from her first husband's house and said well she's my wife so that story was one of the real breaking points of my testimony is like that's just despicable not take literally forcing a woman from her husband's home. I just couldn't. I just can send that so I cannot try to bring up the story of the liquidity by dying on one of our us today like what if we are like after were married that the sick president came up to us and said you know what I know she's your wife, but God told me that she's my wife and she can anymore that a select will not be really crazy and she said well you know I don't know if you want talk about it. She's try to avoid it.

Everyone think about it and kind as it was part of history know you want to worry about it. Now it's it's done with an illegal practice polygamy. So I try to bring stuff up with her, but I knew after the conversation that she just was not in all like her.

Her shields were up.

She was just not willing to talk about anything so that was part of why I kind of exploded emotionally and mentally as is.

I just had no outlet had no one to talk to about this stuff no one here New York knows anything about Mormonism so so they're like, yet some cover to me to know about anything else at so after after the point I got it. I'd briefly felt like I was like, considering all options Akamai can become an agnostic or atheist, but at that point as acknowledging nothing back, clinician and other times might not assume there's too many times were God, I thought God was there in my life.

You know you are emotionally or just to look at the protected or how I got it interceded in my life.

There's no way that can be a God I guess is this is preposterous and try to figure out what to do and so so I was try to deal those informational after the emotional explosion.

I was like okay I think I can make this work.

Eli maybe maybe I can say D St. made a bubble, but will see him him him open options. So I think I'm an intellectual guiding all likability God bless… Or mobile logic known by his grace. So I started listening to the debates on YouTube so just I was like well you know McMinnville considering other conservatives. I just I just googled like a Christian debate something that I came across one of James White's the docketing device debate set with Ottomans `it was either on the papacy ordered the Roman Catholic priesthood was the first one I listen to. So that introduced me to Kauai Christian theology versus Catholic theology and I just I just love debates so like I just washed a ton of money to even start reading books and and nothings like that. I just found a very intellectually stimulating, and I was like you know like maybe maybe I can make something out of the selenite.

Maybe I can sale the ethnic make it work. You know like sure I will believe this other stuff you have about me like this is a personal experience I can do what you want it, try to go to subjective route. You know, Kenneth had tried to ignore the part that if I can just keep what I what I liked but this is still difficult because I didn't really generally fix the problem and I still felt like I was a sinner that need to be save us a supper like I did know what to do, had been introduced to the Trinity and I've started reading stuff from Jim's wife and watching his program. The dividing line so I got started to learn a little bit about Christian theology and and even reformed theology in an account encourages groom grew like this does need this dissolved or to just be saved or just to know God, because I was like I don't know if God is one God. I don't know if it's the Christian God. I don't know what he is, but whatever he is. I just wanted I just need to be saved. And so it I just hope the stickiest sclerosis just heavy feeling for days around us the summer of 2016 just just kept growing again. You know I got the same kind of just gross feeling you have while studying district history is felt like just just gross.

Just like I just just as the Lord and so I remember kneeling down to pray my apartment and going to God in prayer and say God I know. I don't know what you are exactly. I don't know who you are.

If you're the LDS God know if you're an exalted man I'll believe that the train got all believe that I don't care what it is and I just cried out to God suggest please just just save me from this despair from the sins just just want you to saving this cried out to him, you know, I just felt so discussing this public adjuster needed him to lead them to pull me out of this Meyer that I was caught in and yeah I like it had asked spiritual experience is my life, but but at the moment had a snitch. I'd never had before. It was just like this like walking through a waterfall where you just know your covered in mud just disgusting stinky just the way down and I got Toyotas walking for waterfall night all that mud and all that filth and that Mark was just washer might head to toe. Just all that fear that anger that that tilts the him surety the uncertainty all houses washed away in Salina just felt just pure joy and I never felt anything like that before I I went home. I can be completely tired. Just run down and just like almost spiritually dead, just feeling like I was a completely new person like I just had energy, I could just I was just running around my apartment is feeling so completely ecstatic is just it was probably like two or three in the morning, but I felt like it was one in the afternoon you guys had so much energy I just remember lying on my bed and just thanking and praising God and just collect. This is the answer in a lot while studying obvious church history.

I wanted this answer. And like I was wanting is inserted to just assure me and I in a culture where to go after that.

But I just just what God had connected with the again in electrical really connected with in a way that I never had before and so I just went to bed praising and thanking God in the best way to describe it is like the next two or three days. A psychologist floating on a cloud like everywhere I went. I just felt like I was up in the I was up in the air like his flock floating around wherever I went.

I just had this gift might my step I said is energy that never had before and it's for like is completely new person and you know nothing changing iced onto the same lab us at the same seat had lived in the same apartment is public is completely different has had a desire to just want to know more just want to learn more and and I do know what I do know is can be LDS, you know, I kind of collecting them is the answer I wanted middle. I'll be able to serve a mission else I can get knowledge as in the senior machine Dragon during the temple. Now you know I do know I was excited for whatever was coming so I walk holding I try to figure out where to go from there. God's guidance was Reading started getting really and said Bible commentaries, students are getting really and Bible commentaries and study Bibles and watching debates and I watched James White's program so he's reformed and that he would review three passages I John six, and that he would say no.

No one can come to the father. No one can come to me unless he is drawn by the father if he is drawn if he comes to me that I will will be lifted up at the last day and so then James why would describe that the reformed perspective and I'd like there's no way that string I try to try to prove Michael Moran perspective that he was wrong. I couldn't disprove them, but I was willing to accept what he said either, because that's what the text says so. So I'll read it in this that's like well you know I'm not really quite to accept that maybe there's a different interpretation.

I can go with but cited Without the background I Considered. After watching Mormon stories a lot. Watch the hammer home John John area again. I watched his is Mormon stories where he talked about how the beauty of Christ to be a place for doubting Mormons to go you know if they feel like Bill district is right for them and it's kind of transition place to go and they were still kind of unsure about the Trinity, but it's not seem to make sense. The overtime asserted make more sense. And so I considered her time going to the community of Christ. But after that I said I was like I was trying to rekindle that relationship with my former fiancé them and there is a possibility that you know that we could get so get married. So that was kind of a temptation to I think they not temptation. Just my thought processes like maybe this is true also always give it a shot.

So I tried it I try to pick up the pieces and state LDS again, but just the more I study the more I read over the months and months, the less he gnaws like I can't.

I can't do this subjective thing I can't. I can't be part of a church in pick and choose what I want to believe it's either true or it's not. There is no there's no cafeteria Mormonism in my mind. You know it's a curator pure Mormon or not, and so is it on a type A roast continuing to study Christian theology study try to figure out what I what I wanted to believe what I thought the Bible taught those only real anchor had was God in the Bible so was like wherever wherever God leads me that's from AOL care where it leads Abrams can believe truth minorities so a lot of transitions in 2016 and so yes so that I study I looked around for a while for church and one question which Trista Joyner which Trista go to because as a Mormon church, your first thought is like okay well only be Christian with one of the thousands of denominations. Should I join it. That's usually the first question asked so below are performed theology that that limits it significantly so that my beginning of my journey when I can have my conversion experiences. I like what if I leave and become Christian, will I go, I could be completed. Christ that's familiar to me and I was very similar.

Or could do this or not but on the other reformed theology.

I think God, the doctor uses a means to help make it easier for me because I'm a very I have a very hard time making decisions, especially decisions is important as eternal heaven or hell Hannah height which church to doing something God cannot use as a means you're probably and I guess I just made sense to me.

So as was drawn towards it so much I was I was I was drawn to in my area I found two churches. I could attend I could attend the OPC church so orthodox is maturing church or lukewarm Baptist Church side started attending those two churches can simultaneously while stripping out theology, figure out which one I will enjoy. Cool for masculine.

The one last question for me is there anything you would like to say to any Latter Day Saints servicing and right now I'll just urge them to go back to the word, don't take what I say is authoritative know I'm not an authority on this. The guy who's I believe is been saved by God's grace alone. Just go to the Bible as Paul said there there may be some passages that you don't understand or having trouble grappling with, but just go to the Bible, just read it, just pray for God to teach you what it says if there's either one of two options. If you're right if I don't think you're right about that I'm wrong when you read the Bible you know processing of this hypothetical situation. If I'm right in the wrong have nothing to lose by studying the Bible in depth, but hypothetically and I truly believe that that the God save me and that this is the preposition I'm just saying. Hypothetically, if were right and you have everything to gain by reading the word and trusting what it says. So I just urge them just to go to the word just one of the books it's least studied by Mormons as moments just read Romans straight through. Sorry chapter 1 and just pray for God to give you understanding, because in it says that God justifies the ungodly, not fireworks by our faith.

And that's one thing that does not change in his inspired translation as he chase it from God justifies the ungodly to God justifies not the ungodly allergist asked any of his listeners just to think about why he would add that not why do we have to become godly first before God can justify us. Is it even possible based on Romans chapter 1 through three and we become godly fireworks and then God justifies us, how is anyone possible. It says it is. It's just just go back to the words read it pray on it have God bring understanding and if you're the Latter Day Saints already doubting that are already in all kind of out heading out of the church just don't feel like every church is now lie that's a lie that the church told you it's not one is true and the rest of Paul's point. The point is not which church is true. The point is, how are you saying how do you come to know God. I don't believe that my church is the only true church.

I believe the Christ is the way to salvation is relationship with him go to him in faith is not about finding the right building of the right theological construct. I could be wrong I could be wrong in my belief of Calvinism. Our as it is a report about this I could be wrong but will look what matters is Christ.

That's that's the thing the whole to and that's what matters most in isolation so you said you have really nothing to lose such a challenge. Every LDS person just to go to the word just read it and not be afraid just trusting God and man. Thank you for this sort of the outer, please visit the out of rightness podcast feed on Facebook. Feel free to send us a message than with comments or questions, send a message at the top of the page appreciated the page life. We also have an out of rightness, and others. As we discussed past episodes also send us out of rightness right to the out of rightness podcast on Comcast's cashbox cast cast the modify institution. Also you can check out our new YouTube channel. If you like it shortly like it was a great also connect with Michael just one lungs and sometimes Poland message and as well music for the out of rightness podcast is graciously provided by the talented Breanna Flournoy and by Adams Road. Learn more about Adams Road.

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