The Father’s Discipline (Part 2 of 2)

We like to think about discipline to talk about it experiencing discipline is usually even worse so why does God discipline us as his children today on Truth for Life.

Alistair Begged outlines the purpose and the product of the father's discipline. We continue in Hebrews 12 verse five say three things about discipline.

I said I don't. I want to show you three things that the writer says about this in the very simple number one the privilege of discipline the privilege of discipline in Jew or hardship as discipline. God is treating you as sons. It is a sign of our son ship discipline your son he will bring you peace. He will delight your soul failed to heal bring you anguish and agony somewhere in here I have I have a quote from it from the newspaper. It was a letter by a father to his son when like this dear son, as long as you live under this roof you will follow the rules in our house. We do not have a democracy. I did not campaign to be your father. You did not vote for me. We are father and son, by the grace of God I consider it a privilege and accept the responsibility in accepting it.

I have an obligation to perform the role of a father. I am not your pal, the age difference made such a relationship impossible. We can share many things, but you must remember that I am your father.

This is 100 times more meaningful than being a pal. You will do as I say as long as you live in this house, you're not to disobey me because whenever I ask you to do is motivated by love. This may be hard for you to understand at times, but the rule holds you will understand perfectly. When you are the son of your own. Until then, trust me. Love, dad and contrasted that the Houston Police Department put out a memo some time ago indicating to people on the basis of what they been seeing and in them domestic disputes, how to ruin your children, so the manner how to ruin your children and be guaranteed to be 99% effective number one begin with infancy to give the child everything he wants when he picks up bad words (never given any spiritual training.

Let him wait until he is 21 and then let them decide for himself. Avoid using the word wrong, it may develop a serious guilt complex pick up everything he leaves lying around so he will be experienced in sowing responsibility on everybody else turned to the pages of Scripture and it is their right before our gaze. He says we all have human fathers who disciplined us if we did, we should arise and call them blessed and we respected them for it. And so we are, how much more then he said if that is the case on an hourly basis. Should we then submit to the father of our spirits and live through our earthly pilgrimage we granted on or in respect to those who are our physical appearance.

How much more than should we bow and give that same honor and obedience in respect to our father, who is the author not only of our physical lives and also of our spiritual lives. Indeed, we should pity than the child whose father has assumed that love demands that he allow his son to do what he likes what he wants and to come and go as he pleases. And I want you to know that this is a challenge for me so I said I I wrote this for myself immediate gratification, says I'll let it go. I'll get it all leave all who cares oh I'll see you later. Immediate gratification is against it all out of your hair. You want to deal with it. Within 30 seconds is gone.

The offending article is as it is escaped delaying the case in the gratification of wisdom and maturity in progress demands that we have to go through the same jolly conversation hundred and 50 million time know you can have it know you can do it know you can't stay over the Puritan said as God corrects none but his own. So all that our head shall be sure to have correction and they shall regard it as a favor. But that's the privilege of discipline's assigning of belonging.

All the kids playing in the backyard when you come home you could stop the car by ice cream cones and give them to all of them there were 30 of them laying Evans in the mall and invite them to a picnic you can provide them with a party and do everything else but only those who are your own children. May you intervene in their lives and exercise discipline and jurisdiction over them and the one thing that distinguishes them from the rest of the group. Dad shows up, especially where the behavior is less than desirable will be the fight of our exercise of our parental jurisdiction while I spend longer on that than I should bless the privilege of discipline. Notice how were told.

The purpose of discipline. The purpose of discipline.

Verse 10 our fathers disciplined us for a little while as they thought – but God disciplines is noticed for our good, that we may share in his holiness. Why is this happening what is happening for our good.

Doesn't seem like good. I know that but it is how do you know that because God once said so in order that we might become holy. I don't if I want to become holy. Believe me, you do. Holy sounds like mothballs. I know it does.

But holy is good. Are you sure it's good. Yes, it's good. I don't think it's good writing. This is good, the pleasures of sin for a season. I think being here is good and being with her is good. I think doing that's good but I don't think this is good and I don't think this is exactly what it says.

I think this is exactly what it says and this is what it means he disciplined us and the interesting thing isn't it just pointed out here notes that in passing our fathers disciplined is noticed for a little while for me while how quickly our children pass through our hands. How quickly in a moment that God you've been there you go, your grandchildren coming home this and you meet young couples in the mauling sick now enjoy all the days and enjoy all the stages in the uncoupling going tearing there there here enjoy all the stages. Hey, you take the stage. Maybe you forgotten this stage. Try it for a while, but we know you know there is enjoyment in all of that and it only lasts for a while and the discipline that we exercise is as we think best. Our parents discipline our fathers disciplined us for a wee while. Eventually we were gone beyond the jurisdiction, and while we were there. They did it as they thought best. In other words, listen very, very carefully. Parental discipline is never perfect. I'll be strutting your stuff Ronald. All I know about parental discipline. Be very careful. You may just stand on the end of our week and will make a permanent Mart rate on your nose. The people I know about parental discipline know they don't know about parental discipline being we know the principles by the applications because our motives and disciplining aren't always best.

I go by the grocery store just for a moment because Mrs. X with the kid in the chariot.

The kid is being a royal pain in the teeth for five rules go, now, Charlie. Come on, come on Charlie, and Ron we go. Then all of a sudden out of nowhere, she takes a cornflake box and wax it right on the back of the head child centered self lightbulbs come from and then you mostly on his mother and he sees Mrs. Y coming round the corner and see Mrs. Y as in Mrs. X's Bible study and Mrs. X is doing the parenting tribunal so she knows about parenting, but she said five rows of sheer aggravation and now she decides the discipline.

Why because she's motivated by prying one. Mrs. Y to see that she make sure that she doesn't want to see this terror that she has in the chariot dads do the exact same thing.

Also our time and disciplining is often horrendous and our methods are often flawed and we serve nothing to our children by seeking to suggest to them that the privilege of discipline and the necessary protections which discipline provides are also coexistent with our perfect ability to apply those principles so we have to be honest enough to say you know it was right and necessary for you to be disciplined.

I'm sorry that I did it at the time that I did. I'm sorry that I did it in the way that I did.

I'm sorry that the motives of my heart had more to do with me preserving my own image and ego and he had to see you becoming the kind of child that I know you need to become and it is often a failure to do that on the part of fathers in particular that creates the dreadful autocratic role that is so unhelpful and so in an amicable of the pattern of God in relationship to discipline now the contrast is so obvious our fathers disciplined is really while they thought it best. God disciplines us for our good, that we may share in our holiness. In other words, the exercise of discipline that God our father exercises is unerring in its wisdom is not a hit and miss kind of thing is directed to this one and four are good. We tend to think we know what is for our good. Same with our children. Do they think they know what's for their good regarding bedtime regarding diet regarding purchases regarding friends dating the blood that all down and they need to learn the father in the best of cases. Knows best and it is certainly true here in relationship to God our father what the writer says to these dear struggling believers and was this morning is simply this heavenly father orders.

These events he's working them together for our good and in order that we might become like his son.

That's really what it means that we may share in his holiness doesn't mean we become stiff and starchy God is not that it means that we are set apart to God and set apart for God that there will be the attractiveness of the gospel. The attractiveness of peace in a world of disquiet, the attractiveness of joy in a world of gloom.

The attractiveness of assurance in a world of instant uncertainty and God uses these factors in our lives to fashion us to that in, says Jim Packer, the Bible does not allow us to suppose that because God is love. We may look to him to configure happiness on people who will not seek holiness now look at the last point there in verse 11.

The privilege of discipline. The purpose of discipline and the product of discipline, no discipline seems pleasant at the time the painful.

Thank you for such an honest and realistic sentence we find ourselves say the writer in no way minimizes the experiences through which we go.

There are things that if we could rewrite the chapters we would take them out in an instant if we could delete it from the computer experience of our lives.

We are press the delete key and go back for quite a long way, but the fact of the matter is that it is there. Now he says I don't want you focusing just on the red marks on the bruises. The bumps the tears and the anguish I want you to hold on and realize this and how it hurts. In the present is subservient to what it holds for the future because he says later on it will produce a harvest of righteousness and of peace. It's hard to believe that when you plan stuff is not plan stuff you did a whole reported in the ground you cover it up and there's nothing there to come by. The next day.

There's nothing there and they say there's nothing there, nothing nothing nothing to good his grace I went down the road. Spent all that money down the hole. In the ground and nothing but you have to be patient can be a farmer without being patient says listen this is no funny little slick methodological Christianity work. These three things are the key to your existence and if you do this and do this and do this you will be this minute. Stuff that's the whole myth of physical fitness is not mean every jolly magazine in creation is not something on about how you can have a stomach that looks like Schwarzenegger and shoulders look like whoever it is, and you can do this in 20 minutes to believe that what or how come you look like you look honestly can hold you can hold up the front of men's health magazine in front of them that the mirror in your hotel room and yourself into an extended burst into tears and the possibility of getting like that sometime in the next millennium is so outlandish because we want to be like that tomorrow.

Not cotton picking chance can I be a mature, steady following question tomorrow.

Maybe the day after tomorrow or the day after tomorrow's tomorrow because eventually he says, and here's the promise you will produce a harvest of inner peace and moral uprightness, providing you have been trained by it on me that phrase were through, trained by it. In other words, the experience, the harvest is not reaped by people who simply experience it is written by those who are trained by it because you see in the expression of discipline our kids aren't always trained by discipline we can discipline our kids and are not trained by you notice that you discipline your children and they reply in a spirit of defeated resignation should give themselves up to it. Oh well, go ahead, do we have to do fine. I'll stay home.

I will in the basement. I don't care there's no training in that nor when they reply in a spirit of hardhearted defiance, though I had. It won't hurt me, it won't change anything. There's no training in that in a spirit of self-pity on the only person there is no one else.

Susan my school. None of my friends, there is limit on the world of the worst person in the world should doesn't train anybody nor are they trained when the respondent a spirit of resentment. What have I done to deserve this you think you are not allowed to do this stuff because the school you're not allowed to do this stuff is no training and that the only time that discipline produces training is when the person is trained by what is it mean to be trained by it means to submit to it in a spirit of endurance which recognizes that the source of it is the hand of a loving father not the hand of a cruel tyrant, and all that stuff that you used to read before your kids and I used to read and smiled. His mind you discipline your children you should tell them that this hurts you more than it hurts them all.

Golly, my dad will know where to begin this stuff heart stuff father Snicket then you have a child dies I went. Moreover, my kids and I went to my own since here's the deal of one's to think of God as a loving heavenly father is to think correctly. To think that his love is a kind of love, which is soft and Santa Claus each is to think on biblically but rather he loves us with the same kind of compassionate care than the best of their earthly fathers will show to the children that are under their jurisdiction in the key thing is are we going to attend the training.

Are we going to be trained. Sometimes I would cheated training for our soccer in Scotland.

I come home congratulated myself while I was there but I didn't really do it.

I thought I was a smart guy. We trained three nights a week to Sunday till Saturday. Can and then on Saturday, when I was 5 yard short in running for a ball in the middle of the field that I was in such a smart chap after all. As I shortchange myself.

I attended the event, but I did not get under the burden of the experience. The harvest of righteousness is and those who been trained by this is one of my little notes and quote some of this I close one of my good friends. 20+ years ago had married a girl called Marie I've mentioned her before.

She was strikingly beautiful and I was looked at him and said, man. You know how did you manage that in the same way that people look at soon will give me and then been married a year and she was diagnosed with cancer and the cancer is ravished or and I watched them both and and this is her last entry in her diary reads like this, God I don't understand but I love you and I trust you don't let me let you down in this battle. Help me Lord to be what you want me to be in this to learn what you want me to learn in this not to waste this experience, but to show the reality of knowing you, because she was prepared to endure the discipline in that way all these years. After going to have by my telling you. Hebrews 12 is fulfilled. She is reaping the harvest of righteousness and peace, along with others who will be trained to humbly story that encourages us to endure God's loving discipline. This is Truth for Life with Alastair Begg just a minute Alastair will close our program with prayer so please keep listening the topic of discipline is not an easy one, but your Truth for Life. We are committed to teaching the whole Bible, even the hard parts.

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Will God our father, we thank you that you are our Father in heaven and we love you this morning and we thank you for loving us and fight.

If you had love does, we would know how to love you in response, we bless you for your word. We thank you that it cuts to the very heart of our lives.

It it touches where we live.

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