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How often do we extend the invitation day in day out day in day out, week in, week out, months, years, how often you folks do it hardly ever how often do they oppose the tax all the time. Tell you something doesn't.

All right let us go right to the phones starting in San Diego. Carlo, welcome to the line of fire. Go ahead.

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Let's go to Puerto Rico Michael, welcome to line of fire.

Well, thank you because I want to hear but I do if a quick comment on what I understand from church history of the early Pentecostals, to pick a candidate on the Lewis St. in Los Angeles. What I understand they came out of the holiness from John Wesley which led to the outpouring and demonstration support, but later the northern Baptist came into the movement and the doctor holiness doctrine shifted from from sanctification to finish work and I was wanting you know it's my opinion that the church needed to get back to rediscover John Wesley and the holiness a movie and I wanted your opinion on sanctification versus the finished work of the northern Baptist right I'm I'm not aware of the influence of the Baptist finish with me will be with happen in the Pentecostal movement not aware of it but for sure. The early penny, the early Pentecostals, especially in North America came out of Wesley holding this tradition. In fact, they believed that you first at six reach a state of sanctification and then after that could be baptized in the Holy Spirit. So that was that was a viewpoint they had upset.

I wouldn't fully agree with that or affirm that, but yes, I agree with the holiness traditions are biblical. I agree that we must recognize that yes, our sins are forgiven once and from the cross, Jesus died for sins once and for all on the cross but the process of growing in holiness is a gradual process. It can be in dynamic jumps that otherwise it is progressive so we believe in the various phases of sanctification with the moment were saved were set apart as holy risk within 611 speaks of us being made holy. In the past is why Paul writes to the saints.

The sanctified ones in Corinth within us is called to be holy in writing to the holy ones in Corinth called to be holy. Sanctification is passed or set apart as holy will resave it is present.

We are becoming more and more like Jesus. Hebrews 1214 we are pursuing holiness. First Thessalonians 43 this is the will of God. Even your holiness, your sanctification.

Second Corinthians 71 that we are perfecting holiness in the fear of God, so is present, it is ongoing and then his future. His future and that one day will be completely Toby sanctified without sin or the possibility of sin with the resurrection verse John three when we see him we will be like him. So yes, I believe we need to get back to it. The hyper grace movement has taken this idea that you are 100% fully sanctified the moment your saved 100% fully holy, and the idea of growing in holiness is considered to be heretical, according to one pastor is a spiritually murderous live pastor Clark Pinnock sees me pastor Clark Whitten says that the idea that sanctification is progressive, is a spiritually murderous life.

In contrast, the best on hyper grace preacher Joseph Prince told me plainly that you can't be any more righteous, but you can be more holy. So he believes in progressive sanctification. Most of the hyper grace teachers do not.

And that's a very serious problem. A thank you for your question 866-34-TRUTH.

Let's try to connect again with Carlo in San Diego. Welcome to the line of fire development in the back. Thank you Dr. Bond had a question about on Hebrews movement when in a couple of clips, a man named Michael Rood on your familiar with those Shabbat night live in the money that he teaches on, but I noticed that when he teaches at whatever point is making in all the Pentagon is ramping all calling Christians that don't get that no idiot, and moron and just along the lines of know he doesn't prevent more. This is where I differ with this.

I differ with that blazingly goes on this default. Are you familiar with his ministry and what you gonna does the first thing whoever it is that were dealing with a week and we can correct the error. We can address things that we think are wrong in a gracious spirit, we can rip up the error we can absolutely rebuke it, but we can do it in a way that is not personally offensive because our own flesh. I have not followed Michael Rood at all in many a year. However, in 2004 I did a review of his little book.

The pagan Christian connection exposed, so this is Michael Rooney in 2004, and my review. So this is a shockingly poor book with almost no redeeming qualities, and it is best dismissed as mere sensationalistic curiosity, if taken seriously, extreme rhetoric and exaggerated statements that dominate the book could prove dangerous to unsuspecting readers. In fact, bear several marks of cultlike teaching something which is especially unfortunate since as published by Bruce Vargas which was a distant publisher, so here's the long and short of it that follow him at all. Over the years, but when people come to me and ask about his positions. They are almost always these way out positions rejecting fundamental biblical Christian teaching so I have no problem with some saying there's a lot of traditionalism in the Christian church need to re-examine thing or my books is called REIT revolution in the church challenging religious system of the call radical change in its radical change back to Scripture. I have no problem with messianic Jewish congregations challenging the traditional Christian understanding or Catholic challenging Protestant, Greek Orthodox, and say okay let's go back to Scripture say with the Scriptures. There was Scripture set no problem with.

I I don't believe for example that God made us Sunday the Sabbath that he made that shift and that Christians are obligated to set aside Sunday is the Sabbath. I will see that anywhere in the Bible there free to bounce it anywhere in the in the Bible, however, when you have someone basically like Michael Rood say this based on this book from 2004 Jesus discovered nobody else has example he claimed to be the first person to discover the true sight of Sodom and Gomorrah and the and in the process become the owner for the world's largest privately held collection of brimstone on planet Earth. He claims to be the only one it's got that the calendar right it is so when you have anyone that writes off everybody else writes off the rest of the church roll idiots they don't know anything about the true insight. That's when you just walk away from that person even if you're in there they've got something that may be right. You just walk away from the were part of the body were were part of a family we have much in common. We have our differences within that, but when someone comes along there. The one they've discovered it all. That's where you say all right on undertake up and leave and about listening with this person says anymore because they're clearly in error.

All right yet yet they think about, but I appreciate you are very welcome 866-34-TRUTH hey, just to mention on most every Friday we are wall-to-wall phone calls for the entire hour within the hour at the town.

I wish we had more time today. We did a YouTube chat for a whole hour just answering endless YouTube questions for whole hour before going live with the broadcaster. Every so often have a break. We got allotted to openwork few lines open and that last were secular to the just will let you know this is one of those moments were. It's a great time to call in and will be we will deftly be able get your call before the shows outs of your call right now 866-34-TRUTH 784 866-34-TRUTH will deftly be able to get to your call before the show was out this way give me a heads up on that while we have the moment. All right, let's go to moral in Minnesota. Welcome to the line of fire around.

You're welcome.

Very yes, I can drive a question, okay?

Legal is as usual as their Messiah.

There a polar generalist crystalline salvation or how you look at that. Also, they are saying they can have multiple wives yet yet polygamy is more common term. Obviously, right right right but the existence of polygamy theoretically could be a woman with multiple husbands but polygyny always said, it is not Internet polyandry, which is not limited but right on all I'm saying. Either note the recent hammer that you were using the exact right term that's that's all missing you easily with etc. term. Okay fine so cannot person be saved well obviously if they live in a country that forbids that right then there breaking the law by having multiple wives living in disobedience if they lived in a Muslim country would not be the case so can I say that.

Let's say you have someone because we are born again follower of Jesus issue but say they lived in Saudi Arabia and let's say, or the Uganda, which pollutes permits polygamy and the person had multiple wives. Would that mean they're not say I could not say their hell bound because of the I could say they're clearly not walking in full harmony with the Lord, and I could say they are disqualified from being a leader of any kind, but I could not.

Damn them to hell over there. We know the early church that different cultures polygamy was practiced and the Bible did not immediately so you have to give up every other wife that you have. But he did say to be a leader you can only have one life wife and that was to be the pattern and then in Matthew 19 verses four through six.

Jesus reaffirms God's design the beginning, which is one man and one woman together for life as God did not create Adam gone so we will examine someone to hell. My dad was American lady law and therefore disobedience. I thanks for the question. The line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution.

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866-34-TRUTH out. Let's go to Duane in Cincinnati.

Welcome to the line of fire.

Are you Dr. Brown very well, thanks for asking.

Good. I was watching soda videos for Dr. James Whited put out. I don't know when he actually put them out but it was about solar scripture or and he started talking about how weak that the position of the charismatics is concerning solar scripture and he said that if you have a good solid consistent Catholic theologian charismatics would have a very very difficult time being able to prove. Because we believe in the gifts of the spirit and we believe prophecy that, and I of course see prophecy and all of that different in Pentecostal I see it much differently than the revelation of Scripture, but he brought out that the really was no difference in I'd like to get your take on that time. I kind of look that things about solar scripture that you have kind of talked about but this is more specifically concerning hearing the voice of God not using somebody to save this is what the Lord has said.

He said well if somebody says the state of Florida does no different than when Paul sent the same ports of Bill divine revelation. I like to get your comments on that first and foremost I am charismatic because I'm so Scripture because I hold to the absolute authority Scripture in Scripture is my God not later church tradition, not words and revelations in dreams, but Scripture because Scripture emphatically says that God continues to speak to prophecy, dreams and visions. Therefore, I believe in those things because I'm so this retort that someone number two Dr. White Knight definitely have differences that they have different approaches, but we do it with honor and esteem as brothers. I deeply stand with Dr. Whiting so many different ways and honor him as a brother in the Lord and I know he does the same with me. One of one of our favorite things to do in the entire world is to team up together and debate others. It's almost like one brain speaking through two different voices. It's amazing now. He had me on the air though to discuss this very issue and to make the exact same distinction that you're making that Scripture Scripture but nothing else to touch a Scripture that, for example, you might uncover a prophecy that was not in the Bible that was spoken by someone that was a disciple of Elijah and was a true prophecy, but is not Bible is not Scripture doesn't have that authority.

So, at very best if there was a true prophecy today. It is a word from the Lord were given situation, just like if you pray, Lord, should I take this job or not you get this yes do with this witness of the Spirit is not Bible is not Scripture. If a ministry for lost person on the street and say I sense you just experienced a terrible loss that that someone very close to you just lost them in your wondering is God even exist.

The Holy Spirit reveals that that's not Bible that's not Scripture is not doctrine. So we make an absolute distinction between the word of God, the Bible, which tests us, which we submit to which we do not question which is binding on all people binding on all believers and is the authoritative final word of God be based doctrine on that are information who Jesus is what the gospel is based on that and then everything else is is self or intimacy with the Lord our walk with the Lord. We have a relationship with them. Is she pure his voice. He may say something fresh to you about his love for you. He may lead you and guide you and say I want you to leave your business and go preach in Pakistan. It's worth more but some Bible so we make an absolute distinction between them. I know Dr. White understands our position so he would still feel that it's weaker hence his argument, but he fully understands and he's happy on his show to clarify that that the Bible is different. The Bible is God's word and the Holy Spirit leading speaking here. Someone has a dream and in that dream. They see someone when you meet this person is going be significant. So they keep their eyes open when they meet them.

Turns out that this person opens a major door of ministry for them, but it's not Bible the Bible. It's a dream you had the same way if if the Lord speaks something to me and I share with others. The Lord really laid this on my heart we pray about it. We believe it's God reactive is not Bible Bible stands alone by itself as the workouts we actually make that distinction exactly what you're saying is exactly what I agree with you know I've experienced in my life and I recently talked to someone who said okay.I need to know what my purpose is.

And I need to talk about Friday or I'm going to do something bad myself and in the very moment when the words came out just within a just a short period of time. Holy Spirit then came to them and ministered to them and and totally change your mind and to me that's just part of God being personal without walking with the compartment totally aligned with love you man I was diamond and reached off and I just appreciate your ministry. Thank you, thank you God bless 866-34-TRUTH with interesting is that surveys that were done worldwide indicated that those that espouse to charismatic Pentecostal faith. Read the Scripture more regularly than Christians who did this interesting. Some holding that was done a few years ago to look at the clock read plenty time for calls right now we go to Tamra or Tamara in sugar land Texas welcome to modifier very well, thank you. Appreciate your help. I think my question is not only polite back in one of the think back And pick up a little is what one in your conditionally, like an ectopic blank character baby was conceived in the cave and the ninth of the groundwork or the radio by lateral thigh are in a situation like that where the mother could not get back on like that be, hard think you yeah so first yeah so let's start here.

If I was talking to someone about that and they would say, will you, would you allow abortion in that case, why would you say okay so would you agree with me. Then, in all other cases, abortion is wrong… Till I can, you know, you guys you are you so harsh and you say no abortion for rape or incest. So I said okay that's like 1% or less of all abortions. So, do you agree that, on the other 99% and invariably the people who are pro-abortion so-called pro-choice. They won't agree on the other 99% loads raising the issue of the 1% is just a smokescreen that you're asking it in a very sincere way. I'm I'm not a medical doctor.

As you know, and don't have a lot of background in this area but but I would say it's it's always going to be the same principle where let's say that you you two people are drowning right and you can only get to one of them and the question is okay.

Who do I have a better chance of saving right or if you have a situation where one person is dying of cancer and they've got three days to live, and they fall in the water and next to them is a healthy six-year-old that falls in the water and you got an equal chance of saving both, you're probably going to go to the one without the possibility of a life versus the other. That's good about the die that's what they would want anyway so you have to look at it at every situation.

Is it possible to save the late life of both know is it possible to save the life of the mother for sure. And the baby can't make it anyway then then you look at all the situation. So the goal is always to save life. I and EF in the process. The only way you can save one life is by losing another you know they're twins and there's only one that you can you can treat what you do you have you have cases with with mothers and drought ravaged areas and they don't have adequate mother smoke and they have twins and ones dying in this make it safe. Be the one that's going to make it so you going to do your pragmatic best to save life. That's the simple principle save the maximum number of lives, and if it's a matter of having to choose one then obviously you can choose based on viability. If you know it's impossible for this one to survive but by cutting off their life support. It's going enable the other one to survive, then your your saving life. The whole goal is to save life, maybe a doctor may want to call in and give us specifics of how work is Tamra thanks for the call right back with you because of you decided for cleansing and gives the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown to the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown got answers 866-34-TRUTH biblical regular phones just reminder this week and next. In particular, will be reminding you about this.

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That must've been shortly after I got help me change my lifestyle which was August 24, 2014, so I made a radical change so is probably somewhere, some in the months following that if if I'm right, but I do remember the meeting had a great time with everyone there even remember what I preached on the fact it was a great meeting.

I've been studying the reason, God exiled Israel from the land and want to know if you agree that the Old Testament prophets in Jesus condemned Israel following the teachings of their fathers, the priest or rabbi to come out of the promised land for 1900 years of because of what they taught, including the mission, the helmet and I've been studying mission, the bit here as well.

Yet some guy yeah mission Talmud, after the time of the New Testament mission is not written until the early third century, 200 yet so the early third century. So run to 20 is when it actually gets written. The Thomas completed around 600 some of the traditions to go back to the time before Jesus but the fast fast fast fast best majority of the content in mission Talmud is hundreds of years after the time of Jesus of the children of Israel were exiled in the first case because of worshiping idols because of immorality and injustice. So those were the principal sends the causes destruction of the temple they would fully follow God's law. They didn't listen to the prophets because of that they were exiled and then once they were returned from exile. The principal reason the Rexall began is because they reject the Messiah himself so they had in some cases the leadership was completely corrupt, like in Jeremiah's day. Most of the prophets were false prophets.

Most of the priests were were also greedy for gain in relieving the people in the way of compromise at the time of Jesus. You have various different groups and of course you have religious leadership, rejecting him they were strict monotheists. They were serious about other aspects of Torah, but we are through their own power structure. Whatever they reject him and then pretty much traditional Judaism develops in a way it's not against Jesus. It's without him. In other words, it's just as if he never came.

It's following the laws in the traditions and building on that so I don't believe that we've been in exile, primarily because the teaching of the mission. Tom and I believe that the Jewish people been in exile because of our rejection of Jesus the Messiah and judgment came on assassination now has that been reinforced by traditional Judaism which is gone. It's only without Jesus, you could say traditional Judaism is not based on rejecting Jesus. It's based on. Here is the devout that the way were going without him.

So would make you think that the Jewish people are exile or exiled, or believing the teaching of mission Talmud when it it's actually teaching that comes much later will mark 30 of the missionary history indicate that it actually has been there oil oral tradition for hundreds of years before it actually got written down 200 and shortly the helmet traditional to it was added but I recently read the Jesus in the Talmud by Peter Schaefer 2009 Princeton, Cambridge, and also because of the passages such as Ezekiel 36, 16 to 20 and the arm a bunch of them in front of me here as well, but that basically the can down the teachings of the fathers in the prophets and the priests of the Old Testament all right right so there so severe in this summary number one Peter Schaefer's fine scholar and Jesus in the Talmud is is a very helpful volume that's that's one thing. Secondly, the vast majority of what's in the Mishnah postdates the time of the New Testament, there are some traditions that are earlier with the vast majority protect postdates that Jacob used her really demonstrated that will be volume 5 of my series answering Jewish objections to Jesus I deal with this in great depth. Volume 5 of answering Jewish objections to Jesus I deal with rabbinic authority.

Why rejected so traditional juice together traditions go all the way back to Moses.

I say absolutely not, you have some Nickelback centuries, but the vast majority of content of the Mishnah and Talmud postdates the New Testament. That being said guy. Here's the generalization I'll agree with that. Our people have often been betrayed by our leaders that our leaders have often gone in the wrong direction because of which Jewish people as a people have suffered so I would agree with that that many of our profits were false prophets. Many of the priests were false priest, but true prophets rose speaking the whole time in the Rigali priest like Ezekiel, who was a priest and a prophet or Jamar priest and a prophet speaking at the same time so I would.

I just would not read too much of mission Talmud back into Jesus day and make that the root of it, I would say there were other larger issues that were in place, but thank you sir for the question and Peter Schaefer's volume is stiffly a very helpful volume at 866-34-TRUTH. Let's go to Nicole and Texas. Thanks for joining us on the line of fire around hello you talk about gospel and I called Everett the question at hand target like that.

It hurt like I need three or 43 and I don't align my fingerprints. Our where the money because that's my question. People teach that I really never about money that would possibly not to her getting her green rabbi and I wanted about that and also about it out getting the congregation. He felt an out of my money for me my paycheck. I know where all my money comes out you. I don't know why churches don't do that. Everybody went they are big need for this and let me let me address that there deftly abuses their ministries that have individuals that become megarich through the sacrificial giving of people which is wrong and and unethical and in poor stewardship and brings reproach to the name of the Lord, the vast majority of congregations do not have a a lot of extra money. The vast majority of pastors have to have to stretch to make budgets work is the idea that most of the churches are just rolling at all because the money, the vast majority or are not, and I've been involved the church world for over 47 years and generally speaking, if you are a member of the church giving member of the church.

Then you can request to see where money goes and the church should be able to open its books to you and it shouldn't be secretive now for sure, you shouldn't be going to the church unless you trust the leaders unless you find them to be people of integrity and and you like the larger decisions they're making so if you saw that zero money is going to feed the poor in your community, but they just bought a $3 million sound system. My son I will give my money there right so that's the kind of place you want to be going to. But generally speaking about money know it's all the same. It known other words, it's all exactly the same. You were giving up your substance. So I've been in meetings in India, when during the offering people commonly a vegetable on the of the altar because that's what they have from their garden. It's always the same as we use currency now. The currents in the ancient world was was more bartering with actual things you had a right but it was both and the principle is the same. Those who are taught the word of God should then their way of supporting that is the natural wood so someone comes in. So since you spiritually here is the pastor there, praying or serving their working 5060 hours a week there helping those in the community how they live they live through the offerings of the community right and then is there is more money now. They can be full-time. Now they can take that money and help with others in the community so it's it's all the same, tithing is not commanded in the New Testament, but it's an excellent principal proportional giving, giving firstfruits, honoring the Lord and in that way. Galatians 6. Let him use taught the word shareholder things with his future but it's not for the purpose of moneymaking it's for the purpose of sustenance that was just like you go to work you work 40 hours plus in the week and you get your paycheck at the end of the week supports is will those that minister spiritually to say because they're probably working more hours could be 50, 60, I've had times where my schedule is 8200 hours a week of ministry related activity in the same way, who's paying you to do that the people who are being blessed the people who are being supported. If I'm getting wealthy.

Based on your sacrificial giving that's not the gospel that sinful if I'm coercing money out of people for my personal gain. That is not the gospel lesson was how God is a healthy church. Nicole reported that shirt should feel you should be able to see how the monies that about it.

That's a place where you can contribute and support. Thank you for the question. It's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 86643 here again is Dr. Michael Brown joining us on a broadcast is we've got answers straight to the phone Jacob in Birmingham, Alabama. Welcome to the line of fire by Dr. Brown eight are you doing doing well sir, go ahead to.

The old covenant before the time right death and resurrection would 8802 go to heaven at I'm going to hang up, but I can.

Thank you. You got it. Thank you for the question. So there are two possible answers.

One answer okay if we believe that someone's soul/spirit exists after the grave and is not sleeping with their body waiting for the resurrection which is my view. I don't believe in soul sleep. I believe that the soul/spirit when you die goes to either be with the Lord, are separated from the Lord.

So in the Old Testament the system like Abraham believed God, and and God justified him.

It was counted to him as righteousness.

What happened to him when he died. One view would say that he was in a place in the netherworld, but a place of blessing ultimately called Abraham's bosom look 16th a place of blessing, but not yet in heaven because heaven had not yet been opened up and it was only opened up after the death and resurrection of Jesus when he brought his blood and cleanse the heavenly things that had been defiled by the fall of Satan and that he ascends into heaven, and then opens the door for the saints of old going to heaven. That would be one view, that's the view I heard when I was first saved. The other view would say no, not at all. Psalm 17.

The psalmist hope is when he died he would see God's face and that you would go immediately into the presence of God. Let's just say there is debate about it. I can't be dogmatic. I do believe that the moment someone died in the Old Testament, they would go if they were righteous by faith and and live that life before the Lord, they would go into God's presence. But there are arguments and I respect those arguments that they had to await the death and resurrection of Jesus in Hebrews 11 composite to that. The day without us were not yet made perfect, thank you for the question, 8663 fourth truth. Let's go to Lowell in Maryland. Welcome to the line of fire.

Regular butter mixture. Thank you all. Also, I wanted to, that there are people recently that have been engaging will have been greatly all in regard to Christianity. They always start alone for the Christian Scripture right across the circle of thought I wanted to get your perspective on it. I have a perspective on what you love, your perspective is a lot a lot of people argue against Chris. Try to put the picture is the first thing let this get down to basics symbol, what, what's the Egyptian religion equivalent of the Bible and in this monotheistic book in which the Egyptian equivalent of one God creating the universe symbol and what's the Egyptian equivalent of of this, one who brings atonement to the world through sacrificial business acumen of the Egyptian equivalent to the sermon on the mount that set so in other words, you're not comparing two of the same religions with with lots of parallels you're comparing apples to giraffes. Seven. You're comparing two completely different things. So I'd start there and circulate through the sermon on the Mount show many ancient Egyptian equivalent of that or to start reading the prophecies of Isaiah like, and in chapter 41 about one true God only one who got to show me that the Egyptian literature or a real parallel to Genesis 1 on in this lofty monotheistic creation. So you have no such thing and then so that you got all kinds of different symbols. The fact that the on could resemble across a little bit you. You got how many different shapes are there but for example the the the original that the Palio Hebrew.

The older form of the Hebrew writing the last letter out of that one potential shape. It had was an ex-right and you could also be in the shape of a cross and what is approved is the different shapes that that's all they're just different shapes and sizes of Nazis use the the Egyptian the Hindu swastikas, which was a symbol of good luck.

They used it and became the, the swastika, but had nothing to do with hating Jews or German nationalism. It was a symbol they adopted so there all kinds of different symbols DIFFERENT shapes. The bottom line is Jesus was crucified and that's why the cross became an important image is nothing to do whatsoever with Egyptian off but I fight back with substance compare substance.

Show me the same gospel message save some of the same message of salvation from sin and transformation. Becoming a child of God through the car show me that anywhere else. Chris doesn't exist. It's unique to the Christian message.

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The letter day without art all of the great what would never thought that right because they think they they affect the letter. J day and that you know the body is Yahoo Dr. call the main sentence in the note number one, there was no English language that the things I'm so why in Hebrew MSJ in English, what's the mystery so you got to every name with Jay that you have. Joseph was your safe. Just I would associate right you hired your highest being was your highest being and not on server every J name that you have. James was Jaco so there was no English. So this is how we say then I specify. Let's say the way it was in Greek. Jesus is the Greek Jesus overuse the Hebrew Yeshua by great, no problem, but there was no English say why you speaking to me in English. There was no English language that what you speaking to me in English assessment so it is so unbelievably idiotic, and in the crazy thing though is that people at the major on I thank you, thank you for the question. Let's keep going here Michael in Lexington, Kentucky. Welcome to the line of fire. Hello Dr. Brown, are you doing well. Thank you Rob out about one per month be able to be on the show so so glad you're here yet, get your question out quick so I can answer please focus my questions about the doctrine of hell. A person really loopy about how you locked up in Deuteronomy 424 seven about how God at all is an all-consuming fire and someone will take that and talk about the lake of fire. In the book of Revelation, we see no say that you know the lake of fire was really God's presence and what it was. It was consuming the fan off people and really what it is that the both people going to like fire art, like they're not there to receive like eternal separation from God, but just the same as a committed is consumed by God. And then maybe yeah you get your no-nonsense and so it's it's really universalism because it's like as you know, Hitler, Stalin, betas were suspended, they committed but this consumed by God been there. Here they are glorified just like a stranger to me it seems weightless because what the purpose of salvation you get your price is purpose of salvation is that you don't have to suffer as long. But hey, listen, and if I knew that if I knew that everybody ultimately got in. Even after period of suffering. I have a whole lot less incentive to lay down my life to help others find Genesis if I knew there ultimately going to get in and look at Hitler he deserves. Let them go through that right so number one went with the purifying fire spoken of. That's like Malachi 3 God being a refiner's fire got me a consuming fire. Initial flaw in Hebrew. Deuteronomy 424 is repeated.

Hebrews 1229 not the purifying way, but in the way of final judgment and therefore anywhere of Hebrews 10 warns about the only thing certain the willful sinners can look forward to is fiery judgment which which devours the adversaries what he consumes is the adversary was Daniel 12 to tell us that many sleep in the dust of the ground will arise some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. What is Matthew 2546 say that some will go away into eternal life, and the others into eternal punishment. What's written in second Thessalonians. The first chapter that that when the Lord returns he will punish people with everlasting destruction was written in John 316 that those who don't believe will perish.

What's written in Matthew 1028. Don't fear him. They can only destroy the body, but fear him who can destroy body and soul in hell you're talking about lasting destruction, lasting punishment, lasting judgment, lasting fire, no question about it is not purifying fire is the fire of destructive judgment and because the judgment is ongoing. Mark nine, quoting from Isaiah 66 the warm never dies in the fire never goes out and that's the picture in Revelation 14 the beast and the false prophet tormented day and night for ever by fire so no question. It is not the fire purification that is the absolute heresy of universalism. All scriptural log like things against it.

Purification arc from the brimstone – there you know like brimstone is purification stolen. You know that I like like a purified Sodom and Gomorrah write the fire and brimstone. What is what.

Yet, what is due tell us that that's a reminder of those who suffer the wrath of everlasting fire that you can debate whether the fire totally destroys and wipes out over the fire continues to burn in judgment but is not purifying fire is the firehose that you are exactly right on that little bombardment of Scripture confirm leisure friends have an awesome we can join us at*round.org endless resources for