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Will LIV Golf players win their lawsuit and compete in the PGA Tour?

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August 8, 2022 4:03 pm

Will LIV Golf players win their lawsuit and compete in the PGA Tour?

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August 8, 2022 4:03 pm

Will LIV Golf players win their lawsuit and compete in the PGA Tour? John Nucci of Conduct Detrimental joined the show to talk about the lawsuit filed by some LIV golf tour players against the PGA Tour to be able to compete in the PGA Tour as the Fedex Cup playoffs are approaching.

Kevin Kernan of BallNine.com joined the show to talk about the New York Mets taking four out of five games against the Atlanta Braves over the weekend, how much Jacob de Grom has meant with his return, and how deGrom and Max Scherzer are a great at the top of the rotation. Plus, Kernan talks Juan Soto's trade to the San Diego Padres, and the late Vin Scully.

Plus, Dennis Cox takes us on a tour to another NFL city, this time Detroit.

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He actually had gotten it back to one over by the turn so he was three under over his next eight holes. After making an eight on on his first. He is a great young player second youngest winner.

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The fact that he did have a quadruple bogey in that same row shot a 67. I mean, that's impressive. I saw him make the turn. I saw him miss about an eight footer for birdie on nine and he was at that point one over part of my guard is just to hear and realize that he went eight and then read about three birdies in his next however many old I decided realize that and like while he shot 300 that's pretty good round went away to rally on the back had no idea that he shut the meeting eight. A quad on one so great, great, great young player. I will back Kevin Kiernan, long time baseball writer columnist in New York now rights for ball nine.com will talk about met sprays, but also Dodgers, Padres, Yankees have lost five in a row. There are baseball things to talk about that do not revolve around the Mets taking 4/5 from Atlanta next golden studio in Monico Street capital financial advisory group.

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That's what MBS stands for. He was aware of what was going on at Citi Field.

It was that much about approach as as anything other than of course the grommet insurers are but was that as much about approach and what Buck Showalter is meant to the Mets this year than anything is always quick Buck Showalter doesn't fool around. He bought yesterday to any say that the tone map that point forward about accountability and there's very few managers now about accountability and grace have embraced a good talent you have a lot of Mrs. Conley Yankee run so they don't and direction so exported all those little little problems and and you got guys got leadership servers on label. His leadership is done for the back and not on his pitching ability.

But what he set the tone a winning tone and aggressive tone and actually I put the bracelet matched the whole series I and especially the last two games with teachers or underground. Going back to backs first time the second time that is happened this year forced to grounds only made two starts to grow was ridiculous for 17 outs to out walking in an opposite field homerun by Dansby Swanson. What do you make of what you have seen from the ground over his one 10 2/3 innings mechanics back is all about mechanics spent so much time with him watching. I'm still a little concerned with the grime slickly because I don't think he needs 1200 all the time and that's really become if you look at his problems all his problems stem from when he started reaching crazy numbers all the time so I think you feel if you listen to what he said after the game.

He talked about you know my mechanics really should abate by being aware of it will straighten some things out and that's a good thing but don't fall in love with that and I'll dump all of the superspeed take a few miles all you know what I would say no girl Lander to me girl. Lander is the epitome of what you want to do is a veteran pitcher and I think II don't think I'm not saying Grimes in trouble, but it's been too many injuries lately and that concerns me. So you got your you got a really step off the gas a little bit. Don't be too much like you were last year to and also I've set up in the beginning I really think that the grime believe the Mets aftershocks of this for years now and I think will go to your grave simply because of a lifestyle change is closer to home, Florida, and it's a good fit. So I think that's another reason why he wanted to be 100% your nose racing every creation. After the year again to say I mean Steve Cohen's gonna let the grime walk. Jacob Grimes got to get as much money as to the grime once.

Now when you're in I noticed no way I know we comes from, and things at this point in his career may be more important for him to be closer to home. Now I'm not saying it's deftly going to happen, but my gut tells me it's going to happen because it's already about opting out right. We keep you and and and he doesn't even talk about even with the injuries and also use about opting out for a while now and the braces shown us in the past. They will step up to sign that veteran pitcher Allah Charlie Morton things like that and I just feel he brought great spam you know spent a lot of time with him and I come from very small town in Florida. He got relatives that still lives very got a lot of relatives. Kids are growing up a little bit so it's just a gut feeling you get so much more. He got more money now that he could have a friend lifestyle you know, I don't see him being Neil know the ultimate got it just doesn't fit a dollar I think is good for the lifestyle and if you can get home know in any capacity of Mayor from Lanarkshire fly back to know where he lives in less than an hour. I may not. Why would you do and so I think that's why so important that a lot more important to match the wind this year and then patched together. He does leave again are doing what you know of overburdened guys are baseball players. I don't see not Grimes a great baseball player. Don't get me wrong I'm not ripping him at all and he's a great stripper sure you've seen the difference leadership why what sure compared to Grimes grime leads by example serves believed by your will is scissors the next level guy.

There is no question about only ask about the other team in New York Yankees have lost five in a row. Is this sort of a market correction based on where the Yankees were for the first three months of the season, or is this just a little bit of a lull, some of it is a correction, but some of it is who they are. Don't forget they haven't been challenged. Being in St. Louis I think is a part of what they been in a while. Now to get really tough schedule travel.

Why not Nestor teams travel wise going Seattle open things like that and you know that they get whatever Yankee sureness in the path a little tired when I travel all the guys and I think you're still playing with that kind of mentality. Certainly not as good as they show themselves to be all year. I just not mean they they can be pitched to judges been unbelievable like I five years ago I wrote a note for five years.

Guys writing at the Yankees assigned judge long-term deal and then they would be in the situation right now they could save himself so much money, but he's been unbelievable. Donelson spent a little problem is dreadful spin dreadful LC NUL form moves they made shows that have no confidence in six right. The outfielders they got Gallo what you have Yankees you have courses you have the nerds forecast numbers straight so those are the guys assigned Joey Gallo, you have scalped go out and see and say hey Clay homes. If we get him back to a power sinker. He could be devastated.

Now the nerds make quick take credit for that would pitch shaping the worldly bird or whatever they call it, but that was a scout deal so Yankees are still battling scouts versus nerds and I think that's why you see a team that's a little bit.

Not sure who they are. That date if they lose that home-field advantage to the Astros. That's a big loss.

That's what they should be shooting for. And you know the Astros getting Trey Mancini after the level of the Astros that Astros have that veteran manager to and Dusty Baker, Allah, Buck a play friendly place that I got for playing for Dave Roberts out in LA those are veteran dies important. Have an and boonies done better this year, but there's still too much. The umpires fault. I can't believe they call that a strike. No big hit and again the Yankees have a great year but I'm telling you this didn't, this is an fluke that they've lost five more. This is kind of like where they are right now turning yes if you follow Kevin turn on Twitter at a MBS_turning you will see the often mention of the word nerds is under threat or timeline asking about the Dodgers they just swept the Padres. The Padres made a big splash at the trade deadline getting Juan Soto from the nationals also getting Josh Bell Fernando taxis just is starting a minor-league rehab stint, so at some point were going to have in some order Soto Ted teased Machado Josh Bell in the middle of their lineup. Are they equipped to beat the Dodgers or is LA still the superior team. Team on many fronts and that they have gone better.

Believe me, anytime you had wanted so I think that was a great trade 23 years old and some of the guys in the futures games I'm younger futures name yellowcake a prowler.

I always talk about yams being under the survival running he's under the survival grant. He had to. May I send this trade would happen with them a while back simply because prowler is at .78 years and to rebuild where you got when you know things like that so so good for him that he made to straight. My only question is did he make you dog is ever going to step off in big games without the RA looking the postseason. I'm back to the Yankees real quick one. I think the corn out with the montage. Montauk has an ERA of over five when you get when you get them out of Oakland this year so that I was, not the price but in getting slammed the other day. So these guys have to step up and with the Padres. Do they have enough pitching to go along this incredible offense having settled that spending 10 years in San Diego.

Good for them. The Francis and I were the best they deserve this. And even if it doesn't work out for them this year. They still have Soto for next two years at least and I think that's important to give your financial I think anything even Yankees. The team that may trade I give them a lot of credit simply because you are not the trays may not work out what to giving their fans and not the Mets that is well teams like the Orioles joke getting rid of Mancini teams like the Brewers getting rid of hater.

I me knows and everybody else that was aftermarket… I want to hear.

I didn't think I'd all got money.

Everyone is on his work billions now so enough of the garbage quit being played by these teams and their fans. Your friend is a go forward and anchor my family told me out and I took Marshall talked a ton of people in front offices and you don't take your time. Sometimes time ticks you and maybe what happened here with the Orioles that winning the you know, that's pretty good pitching. Maybe this is the union cohort and you get a miracle right you can't you can't design everything you know it's kinda like the climate activists were looking to change the weather and cannot happen. You know you gotta make some adjustments and I think that's what going on the Padres. To their credit made that trade will have enough pitching. I love the Dodgers do because it Dodgers our team oriented team to yank out the map or that way as well. The Yankees are getting their and the Padres for large team of stars in the example in the game last night. Soto works his butt off get the ninth-inning walk off off of Kimbrell makes it exciting.

I mean I is an exciting outback and what happens her down like for nothing but so he was not a backpack user team left for the next Machado gets up swings at the first pitch grounds out the shorter left out again.

You got, you gotta put everybody got put in effort, not outback. The Soto did everybody in Atlanta. Josh Bell nice kid wonderful kid not well that defender so but when I heard and people told me Cosmo that is worse this year's open up self give him a week or two to get themselves together and then we'll see where they go about overall good moves Kevin turning I appreciate your time.

Leave it there.

We will circle back as we get closer to the postseason at a MBS_Kiernan ball nine.com. The website it's all about baseball.

I appreciate your time sir. Safe travels back to Florida yesterday and one other thing real quick. If people can read my Vince Kelly Hassell nine. Please read it.

A lot of time together through the years and I think I'm going To them that I heard from spent About a lot of baseball people so people people cannot will ensure that no no no question about it. I appreciate your time thank you so much. Take care. Take care Kevin turning from ball nine.com June 19, 2006, but it all started May 6, 1997 the announcement that the Hartford whalers were coming to North Carolina transition of heartbreak.

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Yes, every NFL city Detroit, many donuts is the place to go. Tomorrow will be in Inglewood, California all man wooden Ramser charger slams okay. Joseph and then on Wednesday employee out of this Duncan coffee cup, the bangles were going to Cincinnati all my guys were they ruined Chile by putting it over spaghetti. Excellent choice. I will do that tomorrow. Look, you know, we have not really discussed it today, but the live golf players, some of the live golf players have filed a lawsuit against the PGA Tour and again at some of them are trying to get into this week's PGA Tour event. So we should at least discuss it for a few minutes. John G is a contributor to conduct detrimental to my favorite podcast that deals with sports and was actually my favorite podcast that deals with sports and the law. We talked to Daniel Wallick all the time but John new chief is handling their coverage of live, especially now that were in court live golf versus the PGA Tour. We had another brief filed today. Let's get to the lawsuit live golf 11 players headlined by Phil Mickelson which is not a surprise suing the PGA Tour for antitrust violations but is also another prong of this that I really want to spend most of our time on which is 3 Players Also Suing Their Way to get into this week's playoff event so John Mucci what comic case today have two force the PGA Tour to open their doors back to them for this week, and the playoffs lawsuit that that kind of talk coming for quite the time you started hearing talk of the bank and suspension media. If you're going to any trust ears perk up a little bit and given a critical event for the past not writing this. You fill there. There are two distinct claims here. I won the antitrust claim essentially forces acting as monopolies dominating the market.

The other is a Temporary Restraining Order nest by three golfers. Taylor grew talking to Lawford Matt Jones there seeking or straining order, kind of an emergency order to get to play in the FedEx cup playoffs that start this week so little lean pretty heavily on the fact that these players had plenty of notice of the suspension. There were talks of it. As far back as 2021, they were actually suspended on June 9. Skip.at least seven PGA Tour event something so we'll see how this plays out.

They essentially show a substantial likelihood of success on the merits in order to get the training order granted, but I knelt by looking looks like the PGA Tour is pretty solid legal ground here John Mucci from conduct detrimental to podcasts which always encourage people to go if we promoted podcast on the show. It's worth your time. So there claiming irreparable irreparable financial harm here is that they had a difficult stretch for a judge to buy. Considering how much money the live tour is guaranteed. Players just to play on top of the purses that they're playing for which are more substantial than any on the PGA Tour. Not to mention are the person is financially higher. So for instance, each live golf your purse is $25 million. By contrast the major arms are the Masters tournament was 15 million this year. With each live tournament at the $10 million purse higher than the Masters once this year.

Not to mention each live tournament is also has no cut of the last place finisher, at least this year was making around $120,000 so from this perspective it seems that it's a little bit difficult for them to be able to show any kind of major injury, not to mention their kind of flaunting their their private jets all over social media live Jeff, not exactly. Not exactly indicative of people that are better harmed by this PGA Tour's decisions, but will see.

It's that does not seem to me that that they are they are harm so when I talk about this.

I was I was find that logic and legal don't always agree. They're supposed to write and that is that is like.

I think there I need to PGA Tour has expose themselves in some way on the on the larger antitrust issue, but with regards to the players. I am curious as the location of this lawsuit in Northern California.

Does that. Is that a strategic enough move that would sorta tip the scales in favor of the players. Also, you mentioned the timing they could've sued back on June 10, the day after they were suspended by the PGA Tour, but they chose to wait until now does the timing of all of this favor.

The players at all though II think the timing would hurt the players more than it would favor that that was the tour file the response. Actually this morning that I just finished reading that kind of played a little credit heavily in their in their responses that the players have essentially what the tour called fabricated and emergency where they waited and they waited up until this time and all of a sudden there's a community and there's emergency and we need relief right away. It is interesting that they filed in the Northern District there was a case about 20 years ago where the PGA Tour was also sued and that was in California as well. Different district for the future purple belt and that so interesting that they chose the file here one more thing. So back to the actual harm that you had mentioned the response today the PGA indicated that the lid golfers actually use an economist to determine what upfront payments would be required for them to join live in it.

That economist actually considered lost income opportunity. So if that's the case, and if that's true then not only have the lost income opportunity been already quantified, but they've Artie been paid out so the harm in this case seems to be merely speculative documentation about what Taylor do charts and Swofford and Matt Jones were paid ahead of time like we have total evidence about Mickelson getting 200 million Dustin Johnson getting 150 pricing to Shambala hundred so you so on and so forth. We don't know about the three players in question. Is it significant at all that other players who could have sued to get into the FedEx cup playoffs Dustin John Brooks Conferences was not resigned. PGA Tour membership Dustin Johnson Brooks And Patrick Reed have each not joined this lawsuit. I certainly think it is notable not only in the sense of these players are claiming the players are in the lawsuit are claiming such irreparable harm that it would completely if you don't damage the reputation and their careers are lost earning potential, but not even all the players that could possibly sue are even suing so that also featured fairly heavily in the first response morning as well.

So yeah that is definitely not for you.

There feel they have been completely injured to the point of these other players final thing for John Newton. This is now back to the larger antitrust part of this, which I do think PGA Tour and I'm not obviously not a trained legal mind, but I think the PGA Tour might've expose themselves, if proven that the PGA Tour did exert pressure on some of their vendors to not work with live at the penalty of no longer working with the PGA Tour is those that open up the tour for damages in terms of this live lawsuit very speculative. Obviously, in this current litigation live is not a party to this. This is simply the lid golfers. First, the PGA Tour, so any type of discovery that is part that we trust that goes would likely not be for me were talking more than a year so it remains to be seen what type of what type of damages would actually have if that was proven I think in my own opinion, the most typical hurdle for live is actually going to be there success, at least on the because I mean they have coached several illegal the pretty widely reported on in the media. Looks like you have about a 20% market share by 2023. So all of those things don't exactly scream that they've been asked competition. Certainly not to mention most of the players are also playing in the meters, at least as of right now so kinder to be seen.

I will see I think it can be very important how the major governing body approach this going forward at J Nucci 23 on Twitter from conduct detrimental to podcasts tell my guy Dale Wallick. I said I'll talk you again very soon.

John appreciates on I get back to the fact that logic and legal doesn't always mess very well. No idea how this is going to play out.

John seemed gorgeously optimistic on the PGA Tour victory here and I have read from credible people that they believe that the three live players will actually get into this week's PGA Tour event that's going to be uncomfortable for a lot of people. I don't know how it's going to go.

I'm not really rooting one way or the other. The only thing I will say is, it does seem pretty crappy you you left right it is very possible that these three players did not get paid a boatload of money to go. It's very possible and if that's the case, then they should look on is the only reason to do this was my only reason was money aren't real quick before we get out the USA Today coaches poll came out today Alabama number one Ohio State number two Georgia three Clemson four Notre Dame five Michigan they realized that last year was last year, the Michigan Texas A&M, Utah, Oklahoma and Baylor. The top 10 Oklahoma State 11 Oregon 12 NC State number 13 in the country.

Some of you might think that's too long. Personally, I do. But some of you might think I that's not too overhyped. If you are in that boat state 13. The rest of the ACC Pittsburgh 16 Miami 17 Wake Forest 19. No other ACC teams in the rankings.

Although North Carolina is also receiving those God votes yeah go.

Also Louisville and Florida State each got a vote. How did Florida State get a vote. How are the same stooge that gave him the first place vote from the AC media speaking first-place votes in Texas got first place vote in this poll. Wow, this is the gold shell June 19, 2006, but it all started May 6, 1997 with the announcement that the Hartford is coming to North Carolina transition of heartbreak. Figuring it out on the fly became fifth anniversary of the Carolina listen