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Let's get to Brian from Texas hey Brian, welcome around here. Question question is what we think the best book under the Puritans right a lot of good books there are writing about how hard for me to read that book on compatible while I do not answer because I don't read books on compatible is not going to them what I do is go through systematic theologies and I'll read a book on philosophy philosophy of Christianity, something like that. Like I see you get Wayne Gruden's book on systematic theology and his first compatible is go specifically. I'm trying to do something the back of my head I just can't bring it forth to try and make it a title out of there but when I actually compatible is natural simple I go on the web and I want to see arguments for and against compatible with the flu. Don't know what that is compatible is is the position that our free will and God's sovereign election predestination and work are compatible and compatible is and so I what I do is I go to Scripture and I read varying articles on stuff and I debated and that's how I you I bless us a perfect. I guess Mike if I could daresay of my arguments on compatible is your talk about a sorry camp. That's about all I can tell you is good, that's good, systematic theologies and is get this budget Kindle books and I know that there's gonna be some in their that systematic theology by Wayne Gruden is one and let's see how about city foundations for Phyllis philosophical foundations for Christian worldview could read through that. Also, I would go to presupposition apologetics by Greg Monson. I don't have anything in there on that specifically. But it might and and I think that's there's that. So let's related your guy had a chance to read Norman got chosen by God and that I know. I think it went through at 25, 30 years ago and I don't remember but I've heard his arguments before and read some of them and I'm not impressed. I was impressed by them. I don't think he covered the bases sufficiently. I think he is hamstrung by his non-reform perspective.

There are just certain things in the Bible that are just reform and for people who deny them.

I think that that will demonstrate total depravity, but I think it really hamstrings used to be able to go down it and understand other issues as well is great. I got the adult I don't like more read the Bible pretty there in black and white that all is what God ultimate control all that interested my proof of compatible is Ms. I ask questions I say did Jesus have free will. And yes, was it constrained by anything sinful, of course not. So he had free will because he's got an flesh.

Yes okay will he came down from heaven not to do his own with the will of him was sent to him.

John 638 John 519 530 talked about him not being able to do anything out of his own initiative, yet he had free will will compatible is him says that God predestination election are compatible with human free will. Jesus had human free will and wealthy if you but had free will course and was compatible with the predestination of God.

There you go you know I was how people could deny that mingle with libertarianism at that point say that I think libertarianism is a problem because I believe about it is that it denies it denies total depravity and then introduces counterfactual's that can't exist. There's no possible way of certain counterfactual is libertarianism.

The idea is on choice libertarianism.

The idea of what it is, is that the human free will is free and able to be able to make choices that are not restricted by my sinfulness and that of man's free will is not compatible with God's sovereign decrease in elections and so therefore God does not put this one, represent the position properly it restricted. It does not deny the incapacitation of will, in the sinful nature. This is a sinful nature does not incapacitate the well and that it is free, but it did the freedom that it it entails is almost a freedom independent of God's sovereignty, even though technically will say it's undergone sovereignty, but the sovereignty is that God offers preaching and grace that enable someone to believe and that's how it works and God knows what the outcome to be because he knows the future.

So then his election and work are based in part on what he for noticeable due under the context of proving a grace and and I routinely routinely call that kindergarten theology. It's just it doesn't work so well. Like when what I've noticed, like reading. Doing a study on heart Bible and every like in the Old Testament every time it was something from a person in the mission of Park.

They always their hearts always went for evil they always went towards doing bad thing. And whenever something good happened.

It was always you saw that God it touched that person Arden moved on that person. It just even in the Old Testament narrative there is decision libertarianism reduces the mock majesty and sovereignty of God and exalts man's freedom and one of the doctors I teach on is called acidity. That is the characteristic of God's nature that is independent of all things. He has no contingency on anything. This means all his knowledge all his existence all this power are all within his divine nature before he created anything… And of the numbers accurate but an infinite number of his views were infinite as it may not be. I don't know but potentially an infinite number of existences that could've occurred that only were known by God so they were called potentialities or counterfactual's they work real. They could have been under different circumstances that had an infinite number of these in his mind and chose to bring into existence one timeline in which all things occur and so God's choice is not dependent upon man's decision because some of what open theism teaches that God that the future is open. God doesn't know it exhaustively so they want to retain human free will as being self sovereign what you're saying is it's somewhat independent of God's control and knowledge from eternity because if you're God's good, no sugar to do they not free not to do a when is time for you to do it, but that doesn't make sense. It's a logical problem on their part and so what the libertarians do is assume the more they deny. Let's put this way they deny total depravity and then in so doing, they deny certain scriptures that say were incapable and I are nature does not permit us to come to got on so the libertarians from what I gathered, believe in counterfactual's inside the context of people being able to choose God if these have the right information that's a non-reality. Given the fall. They can't do, God has to interact so I can follow me. But those counterfactual's don't have logical possibility and so therefore it's not a realistic offering. The libertarians would would opt would give to us so this is a failure there as well that makes sense, but is one of major problems in libertarianism tracking and what boy thought about like being a great is if everyone is given for being a great but still only some come to God will then would not give the glory to the people who come to God. Yes, and Proverbs 21 one God moves the heart of the king where he wishes it to go. So as you know how to turn her to people yeah getting graphical face yes. Philippians 129 can grant them repentance yes to continue to 25. Supervening grace is simply that Graca comes before that enable someone to be in a neutral position by which they can then choose God freely their own free will. My question is this is why call limited kindergarten theology. I asked those who proposed the public who promote I should say libertarian supervening grace.

All six why does one person believe in God with breathing and grace. Another one does not involve the figure free will.

Okay then, why does one person's free will believe with breathing grace alone is not and they can't answer the question, but we and reform can can God grants we have faith liquids 129 and the faith is Inc. we have is in Christ, John 629. There's the answer. So, because there theology they can only go so far down the theological road and we were formed can go down even further and say well here we go here's the answer that behind me, but they can't get that far because there hamstrung by proving and grace. Libertarianism okay. RMN that helps this sounds good money. Okay.

All right. Okay. Interesting so people can hear me on a work on that this get to Alberta from Georgia. Alberto welcome you are on the air locally and in that evening question. It is my true security faith on my old PQ novel is no back after the break health talk about that life not dependent on your goodness for folks we have for the Lodge.

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Don't do this don't do that.

So you want to know is your salvation before the infinitely holy God depend upon your ability to stay saved right to stay faithful yet well there is a parent. There is a sense in which you are responsible to believe there's a sense in which God is the author of your belief. We know from Philippians 129 that God grants if you have faith, we know that Jesus says the faith that God grants you is in him is in Jesus. John 629. We also know that were caused to be born again.

First Peter three or 13 and he we know the God grants us repentance second Timothy 225. Now here's the thing. If Jesus bore our sins in his body on the cross. 2000 years ago and you and I are saved. Presently, if we were to lose our faith and then go to hell, then that would be sin. That's not paid for because and if that's the case, how could Jesus have saved us if all of our sin wasn't paid for. Doesn't make sense. Some people say that what God does is he when you believe your saved and all your sins up to that point are forgiven and then it's up to you to remain faithful will, then it would be up to you. Also, to somehow get your sins forgiven because of all of your sins are forgiven up to that point, and thence up to that point when he believes will to continue to believe that's how you stay saved, then it would also be the case that you have to constantly repent of your sins. Confess your sins and do other things in order to be right with God.

This would mean then that you maintain your salvation through a series of of repentance actions of prayers of confessions and it will be a not a constant ongoing work to our entire lives. Some people because of this, say that they get to the point where they don't even send anymore arrogance. There tell you but interact.

Furthermore, if Jesus said that he came to the here to that all of thought is given him, he will lose none that is not possible for us to be lost otherwise. Jesus would've failed to do the will of the father so to what extent do you remain faithful will you actually do you choose to continue to believe, but you do so because you regenerate the God has enabled you with the capacity to continue to believe you continue to believe that the continuing to believe is not how you maintain salvation.

It simply a continuous state of existence by which the regenerate live in a relationship with Christ.

Their sins have already been forgiven.

All of them because Jesus has to forgive all their sins to be saved. Otherwise, they can't be saved that these past present future sins to an individual so in that sense God is the one who keeps you. He won't let you stumble to the point of losing faith. If that's even possible is is Matthew 2424 says that the those they cannot cut short. No flesh be left 2224 22 and an ugly falls, prophets and false Christ will arise and deceive many. If possible, and mislead even the elect. So saying it's time possible sleep you see, you have to believe what you believe because you regenerate the regeneration is work of God. Yet he granted that you believe and that can't be undone. Okay, more more about life, it will likely take Hebrews 1038, 39, Matthew 1022 hello, I wait wait wait wait wait wait wait quickly.

Yeah I you just machine gun is apnea is not doing a good okay just numbers and letters needed, no, no, no, wanted time he says my righteous one shall live by faith that if you shrink back, my soul has no pleasure in him no, but we are not of those who shrink back to destruction.

You can understand the book of Hebrews is written to the Hebrews the Jews who were having 1 foot in Christianity 1 foot in ancient Judaism and the writer of Hebrews is addressing them accordingly don't shrink back you don't look back like lots wife did or the people of of the in the Exodus.

When they murmured about the best past things he's bringing this to attention.

Don't look back, otherwise God, you will have the pleasure and you and doesn't say there that we lose our salvation.

Because, again, otherwise it would mean that Jesus failed to do the will of the father went. The father set Jesus at the will of the father that he lose none can Jesus failed to do the will of the father. Clearly no okay okay now one would think that they will offer every Christian's and apostate, to some degree.

Every Christian does not believe in orthodoxy to some degree but not in the essentials. So apostasy has a different set of meanings, but if you mean absolutely fall with the faith and not believe now they could do that every true Christian because first John 219 says they went out from us, because they never were of us if they had been of us, they would've remained a challenge and I can bet your life they might heal you the out now only reality not like you being one without specifics, but not earlier. You know point and all that and I'll be doing and they ask me anything and so that's where I go into a room I'm invited in by atheists and agnostics and others join in the just piled in there and then they get in line and they ask questions that 77 207-2276 new mass Y call 770727 charismatic what we're looking at modern cortical require that the market between the fingers, fingers and finger. God God. She said the growth of the above and diverse. Jesus is God right so you you you get talk about the work of Christ is over everything this verse.

There is a clear demarcation between the finger of God than the fingers. Oh and this thing to Caesar's so sins of Caesar test of the government right right okay and in Romans 13 wonders no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God's to God establish those governmental systems. Okay so your one begun taking something from Roman and imposing upon that now and imposing upon Matthew said does Romans teach that God establishes a governmental systems for okay so is God. Lord over what he establishes well according to their they clearly demarcation what it is and what is God, so is God. Lord over all that he creates well according to their clear demarcation during the percentage of engine is the is God, Lord of all that he creates us to question yes or no for an answer is yes, and since he paid the government status under his Lordship in Jesus is God's with Lordship and so he's not saying that is not Lord over over a Caesar. He says render to Caesar what Caesar the things are God and God and there is a division between secular and sacred. Absolutely there is but it doesn't mean the second. The secular is excluded from the Christian's obligation to live properly in the secular realm and submit.

Even the secular authorities to the word of God while you are correct and all your interpretation of Romans 13. That means that God is also establish communism and socialism dictators up… All variety of other governmental system that is done highly destructive over Bob over human history and what were saying here is that God is the one who institutes religion may not all systems please.

Everything is under his Lordship what is done in them and with them and through them is the failure and responsibility of the individuals, the biblical pattern of government is of representation and private property, self-defense, things like that.

This is the biblical position and communism is an example which negates that works against Scripture, but God certainly allows these things to work in his sovereignty and he is Lord over all of them and even those inside of the communist rule are to subject what they do and set a communism to the Lordship of Jesus Christ.

Aragorn after the Bill of Rights, freedom of religion is correct okay back on that all right. Thanks. Lucky all right for those you think an Internet problem. I had to just quit this I had to read with the router couple of times and to do a couple computer tricks into hopefully it'll stay up and running so my apologies for that. Everybody out there, and if you want to give me call back. You can 877-207-2276 were just about ready call to say I was talking to constructed to the programmer Keith and then he would tell me that the answer will get her do that do their so you anyway. It just happened.

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Sorry about that. Okay mom. Even though the new believer. That anything to make you very long.

So Jerry and or Ethan profile back immaculate something about taking out the cotton now that I think but as well lately you look usually simple seat. There can be different issues here related and would swing sentences a pastor who says some months that getting a specific I can't. I can't answer that is not specific enough to address the right is not so.

Thank you.

Right on, man or the man you know I think that quote you and I are standing on the out of the automatic lately or like you said it all depends on exactly what they're saying. I did this so much over the years someone will say to me you know Matt, you're not a Christian. I had some attempt over the last week and I said why because you believe in reformed theology so okay so what about reformed theology mission, not a Christian all you don't believe that God loves everybody. Both that has no bearing on whether or not I'm a Christian or not, because nothing in the Scripture says that thou shalt believe that God loves everyone in order to be a Christian. So the person has taken something that is not taught in Scripture as necessity and raised it to the level of assist of the necessity when I asked him where's the evidence for that civil God love the world okay so what's the word world me this evening's every individual.

How do you know that because God hates the wicked saw 55 Psalm 11 five so if you say the word word world Ms. every individual.

How do you know that how you notice middle the nation since Jesus was only sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel and not to the whole world. Not all the nations, and so it just depends you know people say things and they think they understand theology and they don't and so that's why we have problems like that is less website quality to be more specific. All right.

Okay were wicked about God.

You see says that but it also says he does desire the death of the wicked believing that article don't know she's says that he delights to destroy people in the Old Testament. That's right you I can get my references her supper, at the talk about that but it's there.

Alright, alright buddy God bless mental all right. It's good to Eric North Carolina.

Eric welcome you on the air like Marco got a pretty basic question is information I have long hair and it was no it's not in the Old Testament covenants aspect of the culture of the time it was, not right for men to have long hair because it was a symbol of being feminine and mixing the genders as they want to do that. But Sampson had long hair so it was a cultural thing that was going on and so now it's not an issue. If you have long hair shorter doesn't doesn't matter. Have a good friend is God really long hair.

Well really locked on the shoulders so whatever he love the Lord is good Christian man, so as not to send us to have long hair or a set of sinful don't have short hair because the hair was a kind of a glory, and it was to be covered in the context of the culture to symbolize subjection in the issue of the Lord and in the home and a lot of it is rebelled against the day in the subjection issue but the the of the head covering was a symbol of that submission today. It's not a symbol that submission so we don't do that okay okay preachers talk about you know a man should have long areas, especially in bad that they talk about management have long a society that I've always wondered about that, but I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Now just ask him where's us in the Bible.

Men can't have long hair.

It talks culturally about certain things and many right okay right thank you very much, all right, let's get to Monty from Raleigh, North Carolina Monty, welcome near the iMac. I need some advice.

I wanted to translate the Greek to English and English to great, so I went to a bookstore and the only book I found it basically was teaching Greek that it 70 years old.

I don't have the wherewithal to do that. What I'm looking for is a book that had the Greek word and then it gives you the English definition and English try to do this you can get Spear Ross his first name is Spiros at SPI ROS in his last name is the salty taste the size of the CME COD so that he takes and is a Greek scholar and he has a King James Bible where he's gone through and tied in the number of the Greek words into the dictionary in the back you can look it up as one option, but there's other options to get a hold on the brink of the folks to open lines of line 877207276 mass Y call 770727 back show Monty. Are you still there Monty directly.

A money either yes or I'm here alright so that's one option. Spear sold his job days. Another one is you can get.

It was called an interlinear neighborhood of an interlinear. I did pick that word up in my realtor called the interlinear Bible, ancient Greek edition right and what it will do love it'll have it'll have the Greek and underneath that the English translation of the words often and they have was called parsing and that means I'll show, for example, the with the Amy epsilon see Exelon E auto mu Yoda is actually that's the first person singular present active indicative of the verb to be. So you can learn stuff like that.

There is, well, you need it, but it does help and so there's that is also blue letter Bible.org and you can go through and get a lot of research a lot of stuff right there a lot of good permission of the letter Bible.org.

You talked about that before complex conflict outstanding. God bless you my brother will bless you. All right, now let's get to Vicki from Ohio hey Vicki, welcome your prompt you before about lady preachers and I know they're back against God, and that you know and I do believe that myself. I know you have brought in a lady preacher to teach a Bible study where I work now. Is it wrong for me to learn from her. She's a woman pastor and she's being held in that position as a woman pastor to teach. I would not go to the study, except to challenge her to defend her pastor ship from Scripture that's me I'm to go. There's a time are you a pastoral in your your out of out of order and should say I don't talk you get away from the blood of lofts and I would then I've done this before. The Bible commands you to give an answer limited ask you for the reason of the hope that lies within you.

Fernando 350 somatic on her and her and her aunt. I know it's wrong that I do it because I feel that what I'm supposed to do to help people you know it's not yeah so she says she know she's doing it wrong which means it sin. And so she's saying Seattle sinning against God in order to help people and that mixes okay yeah all right there. She cannot give way to what paperback seriously. It's bad bad bad thinking like a whole. I can't let her in the book. She is doing and that Rick Warren is you have in life where where, why am I here where my going here something like that. I can't yet when I am but it makes me nervous anyway. You should discuss issues so she's weak theologically compromised issues and she shouldn't be doing that okay if you want to live without it. I'm not grouped together and get me online and I'll teach him okay I will thank you very much. I decided to like it was right that but I thought Matt – thank you. Right now, let's get to David David we lost day you genetics of Adam and Eve just talking about last night. Actually another form actually on oculus on that. Let's get to. I think that seller Paul Jeff Paul from a Virginia welcome.

Thank you unwavering report that by October some people are saying through the buyers state that they get fired, that it taken place. The food processing client about those planes crashing in to process food processing plants different parts of the country and mysterious of fires burning them down muddy little yelp and some people go order that we are actually under attack right now all you there saying that by October will be getting into a Gog Magog habituation ending or culminating in February and get your thoughts on that and the other guard other than making mistake of thinking that what God prescribes is also with your Danes in the same sense, because what he's doing in Exodus 20 and the 10 Commandments is talking about the moral obligation of all people, and specifically talking to the coveted Israel not have any other gods before him the Constitution. However, is a secular document and says that all worship whoever and whatever you want God even allows that in the Old Testament. He allows people to follow Scott's answer choice average or before the good of the comforter on the Bible.

A lot of it was yes. Well, so the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights was a contradiction of the continental map still comes from the Bible the context of the Bill of Rights and freedom of religion was in contradiction and standing against the oppressive rule.

The state church from a pagan governmental system having that's why it was established like that we have the right of our own free religious expression is not a perfect expression of the difficult truth. Nothing ever is allowed by God's perfect expression.

What is the rightful all people ought to worship the true living God, but he certainly allows them not to. As is well evidenced and documented in the Old Testament, welcome my product over, we have the bug freedom of religion and freedom. According to Carpenter, but we don't have the Bob's, the burden of faith and freedom of religion according to the Gunter mammoth Eric perfectly… Or does it say in the essay the 10 Commandments figure to stop anybody from worshiping a false God also have no other gods before me.

Doesn't understand is to mourn a statement of many truth. That's right – anatomy of what it's called, will. Are you familiar with that the treated prescriptive and permissive will of God. If I am not a corker that would contradict okay. We had discussions before and you think your logical a lot of areas in the Heights and the decrees of prescriptive and permissive wills of God are not contradictory. It's in the tree trunk eternal decrees of God. Well sorted governments are just like he permitted the crucifixion to occur, which is a violation of the physical law.

Well according to the door and the Westminster compression of faith everything that occurred occurs because God willed absolute because we have the prescriptive will and the permissive will, nothing occurred and that is O God, that is true is that of all evil. Alton and all suffering God… Is responsible for not now you need to study the difference between ultimate causation, proximate causation and efficient causation. If you decide if everything occurred. It was like it was done understand what the differences are between those three things you got louder proximate different to the proximate and efficient causes. Well, I never got. I understand that but I'm not going to private my point of thought. Okay so you apparently you don't know what they are and you have to understand these the difference between the efficient and the proximate causation is one of culpability.

So you need to study this is is in it. It's an issue that we discussed in Christian theology, apologetics, and it's a level you're intelligent and and lock in New York you should be able easily to understand these things and then see where the issue lies and you also should allow you and also look upon karma. The issue of who numbered Israel because David numbered Israel. Satan moved to number Israel the end of the Lord moved him to a number Israel. And yet David was the one responsible and who sent in flask ensigns and on the left. Well nonetheless. If the Westminster confession of faith is correct in saying that all things occur according to God's will is not responsible for all evil, all suffering and Alton was the Bible says that the devil God works all things after the counsel of his will.

Do you agree with that verse in Ephesians 111 God works all things after the counsel of his will. Well that is true you agree with the statement that God works all things after the counsel of his will you agree or disagree with that statement out of the Scriptures that you okay and then you have to admit that God works all things, even evil things according to the counsel of his will correct well well again if you got it all wrapped logic, which is what I'm talking about is what I just asked you and I met and I'm asking you to answer also have been obtained an inheritance has been predestined according to his purpose who works all things after the counsel of his will. This is all things include evil things are okay, so that he works even evil things after the counsel of his will select the problem you have is not understanding the difference between the ultimate cause. The proximate cause and efficient cause, as well as at the creative will promote prescriptive will and the permissive will. This is where you study these nervously problems become evident and if you need to cite we move along.

Rick okay so riders study those needed to. All right, let's get on to see from CJ from Boise walk around here insert all right already got to break the soap middle knowledge of his. So what's what's tissue with so my question is though I am also like the formula for an apologist like Art Nouveau but a lot and a lot of apologist daycare who are also born find it in the Abbott you would like the idea that God could possibly know the counterfactual but it seems to me like I almost did grant sure Mullet is a good totally addicted. I'll I feel like it only works on a reformed model this and has not had a condor because it uses the Terry and free will and imposes that into the foreknowledge of God is a problem for the deny 20 well and so I do understand that there is their right. But the kind of illustrate a part of my problem is like you are you familiar with the genre like ultimate history section you like an alien comes in its yes over Nazi Germany and in the other novel about that's good you know I'm actually quite bent and write all the kind of no regular like that. If I have to question like what it thought Napoleon did fall a lot of like that. They think they can out of it right and the yellow point is that the guys really good history and all it can speculate on the counterfactual seems to me like as man could speculate on I counterfactual that God would know that counterfactual is that a lot. This backup so before the creation of the universe God has existed, and he has all knowledge is no place gain knowledge under any mission and the rendition includes any possibility of existence which ultimately couldn't exist.

Must God decide to bring the existence before anything was made breathing before God.

I forgot made anything he knows all new all things potential. The only thing actual at that time was himself and he so he would know Trinitarian eternal communion all things about himself exhaustively therefore also powered by the Truth Network