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Learn more@edwardjones.com good morning Dean, Paul is off today. I'm's Department. This is Sunday morning. The words are inscribed over the steps to the Supreme Court equal justice under law but in the real world. Does that translate into equal justice for all, not to hear many of the fence attorney tell it and tell it to our lead cow when they do in our Sunday morning cover story.

It's been more than 1/2 a century since the US Supreme Court upheld the constitutional right that anyone too poor to hire an attorney should still get called public defender.

While it is very public say there is little actual defendant 80% of people who are poor.

We don't have anything that comes anywhere close to being equal justice under law constitutional promise broken waiter on Sunday morning. Ray Romano is a comic actor with the show title to his credit that everybody loves but him. Tracy Smith will tell us all about it in our Sunday profile. Everybody loves Raymond, but Raymond always hated the title now that you have some distance between the title and present like it now with a new series and a new movie maybe more love than ever. Ray Romano, we have a Q&A this morning with Jeremy Renner and actor with at least one surprising entry in his resume. John Blackstone is doing the honors before the punches were thrown in a string of action movies Jeremy Renner bills an unexpected way.

Your makeup artist yeah is a great job because it is the young man make bungalows great men all that right. The Oscar-nominated Jeremy Renner late on Sunday morning look up that's what millions of us will be doing a week from tomorrow, including our Martha Teicher see clips of the sun seems to inspire most awe-inspiring. I daresay spiritual experience with 100 way this line is the center of the 73 mile wide solar eclipse. I had the Sunday morning you can have a very American's David Martin will be exploring America's options in the standoff with North Korea. Mark Phillips has the tale of some English homeowners grasping at straws all visit a couple who are playing their song in a race against time and more work featuring radio talking does our criminal justice system truly guaranteed justice for all. But if you don't have the money to hire your own top-notch attorney. It doesn't our Sunday morning cover story as reported by Lee, I was looking over to hear some pretty strong words from this law professor, so stronger. Hard to believe but listen carefully you pledge allegiance to the flag and we say with liberty and justice for all, that is not true.

I'm sorry, was the notion of equal justice under the law really, why think it is.

Yes, unless something changes were going to have to someday sandblast equal justice under law of the Supreme Court building will close for the 80% of people who are poor. We don't have anything that comes anywhere close to being equal justice under law shocking right. His name is Stephen Bright currently teaches law at Yale University, but he spent much of his career at the Southern Center for human rights, fighting to help those charged with a crime.

We can afford an attorney to defend them in court that have okay got along like with people like Shawna Shackelford in the good life apart back in 2009. Her home outside Atlanta caught fire. She wasn't home at the time, but she had taken out a small insurance policy on that rental house and that made investigators suspicious that it was his understanding. I figure this out to be okay but it was Shawna found herself under arrest charged with arson my grandma like you might need to get an attorney talk to somebody Jim Langford so she applied for a public defender court-appointed lawyer tasked with making sure the sixth amendment is upheld. That's the part of our Constitution that guarantees any of us the assistance of counsel is on the right that's been tested in court. Most notably, the case brought in the 60s by a petty thief in Florida named Clarence Gideon request this court unable to afford an attorney, Gideon was convicted and sentenced without one. He appealed, arguing his right to an attorney had been violated and the US Supreme Court agree the Constitution may promise everyone legal counsel. It says nothing about the quality that legal counsel not something Shawna noticed right away. I will have to wait to hear from you two weeks and his response was, I got a bunch of cases like yours so I get to it when I get to we finally did get to it. Going over the details of her case. Shawna says he simply told her to plead guilty and take 25 years behind ball and do it and who did it and that I don't know but I didn't burn it down well. I may look like a D in my case, when he was talking to me was mixing up with some other kind fight.

He had no idea what was going on. Shawna's case is not unusual in every case, roughly 90%.

In fact, often ended guilty plea largely because even if a poor defendant is innocent can afford bail order wait in jail for crime, which means losing their jobs, their cars, maybe even their homes in the process being arrested and spending for five days in jail can be enough to ruin a person's life, even if there ultimately found not to be guilty of anything. I think the city of Cornell, Georgia, for example, watch how these defendants pleaded guilty as a group called the medium and pleaded for crowded courtroom in the be a lawyer. There was legal.

But Miss Mathis, Ms. Smith) there trying to notify their own client is a good way to go before the judge in just a moment and saw the same thing in a Miami court.

One public defender had to handle a crowd of clients who the person is how dedicated they are. You cannot represent 500 criminal defendants. At same time and give those clients the representation that they're entitled. Nowhere is the problem of indigent defense more acute than in Louisiana which is the highest incarceration rate, not only in the country in the world.

This is Rhonda Coddington public defender's office, Covington sold public defender responsible for representing anyone too poor to afford a lawyer in her judicial district.

That case was dismissed. District encompasses about 1000 mi.² ballpark figure how many people are you trying to defend the reader, probably five, 600 every year professional standard American Bar Association is about 150 felony cases and something even that's too much to me.

Still, there just to paralegals and to contract attorneys to help with the load, but only part time, only don't have time to go to jail and check on. That's not right now. I'm sorry this is found in the wrong file.

Hang on.

It's mostly just her and her two cats named liberty and justice, by the way she cleans the office. I can ask the judge to reduce his bond.

Some people say well any defense all day and some people think well you know they should have representation because they been arrested. My job is not to get people off when they committed crimes.

That's not what I do what I do is to ensure that their constitutional rights are protected. The bulk of the state funding public defender offices comes from a pretty unpredictable, so it's a traffic ticket which these country roads isn't exactly a windfall compared to the District Attorney's Office. What's your budget like Hesse saw 5×6 times more than mine out of that budget comes assistance in investigators and access to pay for things I DNA testing and crime since before with my my own camera taken photographs. Yes each year. It's always something a little less the last of the last doing more with less is why she thinks she lost the case for this court blinking always believed you 56-year-old James Weltman at the site, second motion for new trial, citing the reason being that we had insufficient funds in order to investigate your case admitted he assaulted his wife.

Argument. The state also charged with kidnapping and rape sentence heavy crimes. He insists committed. Covington believed was some investigation she could've at least lessened the charges but she didn't have the time or the money could shut down the whole office for that one case be being used at all the confidence in the world book all across Louisiana public defenders in 33 of the states 44 judicial districts now admit there in the same boat.

Covington is there simply to busy to ethically handle their caseload okay Google Joseph Allen was arrested last year in Baton Rouge for a firearms violation as well as a marijuana joint. The court didn't even know he was in jail because his public defender didn't know he was in J didn't feel like anybody was on your side that will nobody there to help you through the legal maze.

Nobody else explain the charges I did on the wall between local now. Allen and 12 others are suing Louisiana's Gov. and the public defender bull in a class-action lawsuit brought by the Southern poverty Law Center. We are arguing that being appointed attorney who doesn't hear you are case doesn't come to see him take your calls doesn't ask for a bond reduction doesn't investigate the evidence doesn't talk to any witnesses and doesn't do anything else to move your case file any motions that a particular hi Steve, you don't have an attorney had an attorney. Only Lisa Graybill is the Southern poverty Law Center, Deputy legal Dir. I don't believe in family unless you really have to bang if there were a way to avoid filing it, we would have that this injustice has gone really for too long and acceptable back in Georgia, Shackelford spent years researching her case by herself. Public defender was too busy with other cases. She said in the process she lost two jobs in her home. After all, who wants to hire, or rent to a suspected arson.

Had it not been for Stephen right.

The only person who would seriously look into her case.

Shawna would probably be in J's investigation, which he did for free prove that the fire was the result of faulty wiring not arson. It took them just two weeks to get Shawna's case dismissed. Just two weeks for the work two weeks that followed my little research and try getting it still took Shirley Shackelford though three more years to get the charges off right now with the nightmare.

Finally, behind her. She started a new funding is opening her own business to her two-year-old son Jake bent didn't get justice, but not the wage price.

It was almost like having to give up my life for my freedom and that's what I had to choose, and I had to give up so many years in order to get to the point of freedom will had mellow voice and now it fades from our Sunday morning August 13, 1937 years ago today a single decision can't hold more service in the Air Force in the 19 started performing at his family's bar with no thought at first of the hilarity grew around the island in the 1966 he scored his mainland breakthrough with this big hit tiny then on the name Don Ho was all but synonymous with what was a frequent presence on the nations TV screen is in this guest appearance on the Brady Bunch. I think I remember famous for his laid-back style jokingly alluded to his popularity during a campaign pitch for Robert Kennedy during the 1968 presidential campaign and all that was never to be known as Hawaii's informal goodwill long after his death in 2007 the age of 76. That goodwill continues tiny coming up weighing the option behind the fire and fury rhetoric. There is one very hard fact captured in this picture of the Secretary of Defense visiting the ballistic missile submarine USS Kentucky if the US would unleash its military power against North Korea. It would result in Sec. Matos's words, in the end of its regime and the destruction of its people compare US nuclear forces to Korean nuclear forces is just no comparison whatsoever before he retired Adm. James would've failed was the vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the number two man in uniform during the Obama administration knows that one submarine like the Kentucky can by itself carry enough nuclear weapons to annihilate North Korea were Kim Jong-Il and for whatever reason to launch a nuclear weapon acting on stage with the SSP committing suicide. Absolutely. I mean there's no question that we would undertake a proportional response, but in the case of a nuclear weapon that proportional response would be overwhelming and would probably mean the end of the Kim regime, and he knows, but people say this guy's different young, brash, unpredictable do you think the logic of overwhelming force really means what I think it just the people I've spoken to the intelligence community and elsewhere in my own judgment is that even though he's young and he's brash. He's not irrational is not suicidal. Kim knows one of the even in defeat could cause horrendous destruction to his enemies in South Korea. Sec. Matos make clear that John Dickerson will face the nation's only television interview a conflict in North Korea. John would be probably the worst kind of fighting than most people's lifetimes. Kim would take tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands of innocent people down with him. The North Korean regime had hundreds of artillery cannons and rocket launchers within range.

One of the most densely populated cities on earth, which is the capital of South Korea, Kim, like his father and grandfather before him has lived under what he believes to be the constant threat of an attack from the cell that fear. Some would call it paranoia is what is driving his quest for a nuclear weapon.

He wants to have what we would view as a credible nuclear threat, so we won't attack him, which is sort of ludicrous because we don't have any intent to attack him in the first place. So this is his great equalizer against the Great American superpower.

It's his insurance policy.

In his view of the Kim is tested missile range great enough to hit the United States and is credited with being able to produce a nuclear warhead small enough to go on top of those missiles.

He is not yet in short, to have a reliable weapon is scientist still must develop a nosecone that can shield that warhead from the heat and vibration of entering the earth's atmosphere. The Pentagon's Defense intelligence agency estimates that could happen as soon as next year. Eventually they're going to get there.

They constantly test their systems so the day is coming will US military has been preparing for that day for the past 15 years, spending $40 billion on radars and interceptor missiles to shoot down an incoming North Korean warhead earlier this year the ballistic missile defense system shut down a mock North Korean ICBM launch from an a toll in the Pacific.

No system is perfect to be sure that I met a lot of faith in that system. No system is perfect but when you're dealing with the nuclear weapons one getting through absolute catastrophe that is look at it from Tim's point of view, it could not be certain the nuclear but it could be certain that if he tried. It would be the end of his regime. I think at the end of the day to essential facts stand out. The first is it's very unlikely that he will ever willingly give up his program, but it's also very very unlikely that he will ever use it as long as we don't try to overthrow his regime in the US live with that. It's up to the commander-in-chief who said he will not allow North Korea to threaten America or its allies still become actor Jeremy Renner is freedom. And later fade to black plate was the best way to go about disarming one of the things that we are nicer, it's Sunday morning on CBS and here again is Steve Hartman that's Jeremy Renner is a bomb disposal expert in the Iraq war film Hurt Locker to success was a long time in the making, as he tells her John Blackstone in round of questions and answers. Jeremy Renner's new movie wind River. It's winter in the mountains of Wyoming.

There's a body found in the snow figures. Renner plays a man who has a lethal you still like a father for the loss, and that's something I haven't played. I know there's a lot of restraint. There is little restraint in other characters.

Renner is waiting three movie franchises as possible as Bourne Legacy and he's now a fixture in the avengers superhero movies wielding up arrows is Hawkeye wrong. I considered like that sound like awesome not to say you know 2800 played a more realistic hero military bomb disposal like the rack in the Hurt Locker is doing okay sorry locker was largely shot Jordan last meal bomb disposal. She thought about it, then walked to filling that movie was authentic. As you can as well is experienced as was in a movie. I changed a lot when he was nominated for an Academy award. He made a phone call that can still touch his emotions. You call your mother yeah yeah why I called her to ask that: be my date cool thing is, in the course of Renner is the oldest of his mother, six children, a family that lived modestly in the distal California is having Hollywood was not in his plans so nothing on it acting when you're in high school or college.

I should go so his father suggested the local community college. Okay go fail always. I love that. Go fail son empower me to go to see her try. I went to try stuff and one with what I try that I can class it stuck. You left for Los Angeles determined to be noticed as of 11 years know I love you 11 years in a B-movie movie big enough to play in Modesto and be a role in at the tell my parents in on the guy in the red shirt in the background is one of the movie National Lampoon's senior trip, I know you like my first job ever that job for first job after that promising start to be almost 7 years before Renner hit his next major role time is great 2000 serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer next year. He was cast as a rogue policeman, SWAT the first time he had a bit of money and found something to do with it. That's my first house about 4000.

My brother for my together barely in an accident in the rivers.

I got like an solicit this number. What okay.

It was the start of Jeremy Renner making his mark on Hollywood as a house flipper and often you were sleeping in those unfinished house always that part suck it up for that. We had dinner like I was house electricity and water. I was sleeping in a tent city was in the tent at the step over that single ongoing motor Starbucks spiky houses and this is the 27th 27, he drafted the plans for remodeling the home he lives in today with her swimming through themepark is not just a pool on the events I want to be like a playground for all the kids in my family playground for all the adults in the family.

No one in his family is more important than his four-year-old daughter Ava shares custody with ex-wife model Sonny Pacheco. Right now my attention is to be a father. That's my best role today in a pool house. He converted to a music studio.

He writes and records his own song was my first love music and plenty something is a recording I can play something.

Not sure what I will reveal to you knowing there is song Garden of stone is for a go all that's what these music is such a personal thing after wind River. He will be kept busy with more avengers seek his acting career in Hollywood Jeremy Renner now Have no idea said that now you see it soon you won't just ahead. Expect plenty of cries of lookup a week from tomorrow. Ophelia is sweeping the nation and our Martha Tatian or is hardly immune 40 million customized clips classes. That's what American paper figures its factory outside Memphis is right now.

Now you understand how CEO John Jerry all of the thigh. So Donell may not ready or not here it comes days from today for the first time in 99 years, so clips will cross the entire continental United States from Oregon to South Carolina approximately 70 miles a partial clips visible elsewhere is a solar eclipse.

It's when the moon passes between the earth and the sun. The darkness is when the sun is about halfway three quarters of the way covered. If you have a shade tree around and you look at the sunlight filtering down through the leaves of the shade tree and looked down on the ground.

You will see crescents on the ground that leaves act like pinhole cameras, retired NASA astrophysicist Fred Aspin was known as Mr. clips just before totality of the sky starts getting dark and you get one bright bead on the edge of the of the sons. This is called the dining ring ring effect and then the sun's disk is completely covered in the Corona is revealed in all its glory. Maybe you've seen those eclipse postage stamps if you press on one your body heat makes the clips go away in the face of the moon appear there.

Aspin Max photos he's witnessed 27 solar eclipses met his wife at one so it should come as no surprise that he lives in the Arizona desert fire from city lights in a development called sky Village, where residents all have their own observatories. Saturn's rings. I see that rings the name for an eclipse chaser like Aspin refiled or lover of shadows, I've seen five total so my first was in Aruba in 1998. Science writer David Baron is another self-proclaimed profile.

It was the most awe-inspiring. I daresay spiritual experience I've ever had and I say this as a scientist, or Baron's new book American clips recalls in earlier eras.

Eclipse sensation July 29, 1878 the path that the moon's shadow took right across the wild West from Montana territory down to Texas and dozens of American astronomers headed out to the West to observe eclipse the most prominent scientist come out that year was Thomas Edison Anderson had just invented the phonograph, even by today's standards. He was immediate.*So Edison's involvement in the eclipse definitely helped raise the profile of the eclipse overall in the very day after he returned from the eclipse.

He started work on a new project and that was like the 1878 eclipse was critical to the prestige of a nation not yet taken seriously as a force in science and was one of those key events that really did lead the country. Not too much later.

By 1900 to be equal with Europe in terms of science and then really to excel and exceed so what's this line well this line is the center of the 73 mile wide solar eclipse.

As for prime clips viewing spots if the wild West seemed exotic.

In 1878 Makanda Illinois population 600 might qualify today why orange paint. According to David Artis the path of totality runs right through the workshop where he is making and selling eclipse art happily expecting to cash in on his amazing good fortune totality here will be longer than almost anywhere else on earth.

Two minutes and 40 seconds are going to be hundreds of people want. I guess they think stand in a line here want to wear a funny hat or anything like that, charging money manage that Microtel would funny hat looks like it's the probability of hundreds of thousands of people showing up in Makanda are you excited are you terrified I'm more excited good portion that has volunteer eclipse coordinator Joe McFarland little Nikki. This is it. This is so, it's about withstanding the clips as opposed to just enjoying it is now a little further along the path of totality, Kenansville, Kentucky. The message here is bringing on the economic impact of an anticipated 100 homes and visitors $30 million in addition to a prime Hopkinsville location to view the shadow of the moon, Casey Jones distillery is offering 100 proof corn liquor $40 upon lights out and have a clips and I assure you clips with this last a lot longer than two minutes and 40 seconds gas burners on Casey Jones makes the stuff the same kind of skill. The original Casey Jones used during prohibition chairs here like a little moonshine might be happening nearby.

The eclipse will coincide with the annual little green men will will exactly 62 years to the day after Geraldine sentenced its father and 10 other friends and family members claimed to have had an alien face. All three help everything before I ground given the spooky happened and why am I all my God, let no one say that the great American eclipse will not be memorable. Fred Aspin Mr. clips this advice for anyone seeing a total eclipse for the first time. The thing to keep in mind is not to get so carried away with cameras and stuff that you miss the event itself. Comparing natural phenomena on a scale of 1 to 10 partial clips might be a three or four total eclipse is we just told you about the great eclipse but in my orbit this is been big news for almost a year now. My son George the one who insisted on dressing as the solar system for Halloween one whose New Year's resolution was to quote a shrewd idea of how the multi-verse works. My nine-year-old has been prepping me for this for months in preparing me with handwritten space quiz questions like when did the Big Bang happened 13.5 13.6 13.7, or 13.8 billion years ago. It's great to show your kids what you know but the real joy comes when they show you what a dummy you are. I got a 20% on his last quiz if you want to take it will post Georgia space quiz to our Facebook page later this morning we are rolling coming up playing their song 67. Your rates would like to play one of the songs for you. You have no idea how much you would like to play one of the songs for you. It made me almost hate. But then I realize it's not fault know how to do this. It's this thing that's going on in my brain but I play something else years ago Steve was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease.

He had to give up his job as a software design but his wife Joni says the cruelest part is the toll it's taking on the music he composed a song would be like losing Steve and Joni have been married 47 years and along the way.

Steve compose more than two dozen songs, mostly for her.

He played them daily and they became the soundtrack of their lives. You unfortunately he never wrote down most of them know when his memory started failing and the song started fading. There was no way to get them back until a family friend, professional pianist, offered to launch a rescue mission.

Please play thrilling even in pieces. I can learn it so for the past two years may only reconstructing his compositions by not just on the one down one downbeat. Yes, we are rolling course recordings never lost realize there was going this. Steve was able to write so although she forgets entire conversations and can no longer even single digit numbers. Some is my dream.this Alzheimer's. Today we score the beauty left behind. We write still become everybody loves rain and later drive this thatched roof played Sunday morning on CBS and here again is Steve Hartman that's Ray Romano with the late Doris Roberts remodel won a huge following, with this TV series. Everybody loves Raymond these days he still charming audiences on stage and screen, Tracy Smith as our Sunday profile comedy seller is killed that one was one of my best ones are home on the standup state that he's always been about family, especially his wife of 30 years will can I go to dinner. As I looked out I said it helped make him want to name the business. Ray Romano still has other dreams get Shorty a new TV series based on the Elmore Leonard is a smalltime film making a big studio movie with some hard-core gangsters which movies you make. Like everything else in the show, which premieres tonight on FX rate character is over the top. Look at the hair okay small fish in a big pond. I'm strictly legit but enough Romano sees a lot of his neurotic character himself like that is a little bit. I always hear successful neuroses stays there is just a different level like my saying is before all this and now I think it's just gone. I hang up laughing feel they before you get the flu. Well, this is the day before that from 1996 to 2005. Everybody loves Raymond prime time land TV family Romano, who has four children of his own was a natural bighearted that still is success on the show race his own insecurity joke about these neuroses you really are happy, content guy.

Yes, there are still times where I struggle with things like my kids are all good people. My wife is a good person. I'm happy marriage. I have I can do what I want to do, so I'm grateful and happy for that.

But no different than anybody else really that sentence, that's lame loves you. I hate myself enough to balance it out books again on the show. Ray was an average Joe from Queens with a loving family, including his older brother New York City cops named Robert a little out of the house and raised life. Older brother Richard who actually was white officer helps show us around the Queens neighborhood is the main now visible softball center of Queens have to apologize what they're doing to me are when they were on the ballfield. The three were mono boys Richard Ray and Robert would hang out down the street at million pizzeria the old place still here in 40 years later.

So were the owners Ray said definitely have the best music player word will run down hands and raise performance are getting rave reviews. But Romano is humbling to note his big brother wrote him long ago. Before Ray left for Holland, my brother Richard put a quote from the Bible about like to get it right. The essence of it was, what is it profit a man who gains the world loses his soul and I guess is it was his way of telling me good luck. But just remember where you came from. Okay so that was that something yeah yeah both my heroes know because I want the cop was a teacher and I tell jokes about poop. I make so much more is helps make labor monolithic stock send them my sky, everybody deals to love and shouting four days a hard time about using them in your know they don't. The kids love it.

My wife, on occasion, whenever she complains about me using her as material. I don't cry and a bag of money is what she gives me a lot of stuff to give me a lot of material that big sick and I want to reviews was Romano's stunning. I read that and she said they must spell stupid wrong so I got Berger's act coming up feels awfully solid for something is basically grass. The last straw grasping at straws is all the rage among a growing number of British homeowners is Mark Phillips now shows us what it comes to housing design is got to be taught is not tied to one hope will turn out right. It's hard to get more retro than this might drive the spa feels awfully solid for something is basically grass. Chris Dodson is a fourth-generation Thatcher in the family firm going back about 100 years. Business has never been better if I were lucky enough to have a thatched cottage needing your services. When can I get you the full rate that is looking at least 10 years and about two years and that is always been plenty of work for Thatcher's grooves need periodic maintenance.

Even replacing every 20 to 40 years. The top bit the ridge needs the most frequent work and is the most distinctive feature. Signature Thatcher signal intelligence by looking at someone that one back on that one? It is difficult to find that she was not originally used because it was a fashion statement. It was used because it was cheap but thatch is making a comeback, not just on three or 400-year-old so-called chocolate box cottages now thatch has become cool. Now high-end market from poor working class basic mirror walls) 50 or 60 years ago. This places on the market for about 1,000,000 1/2 dollars. So if you're looking for it. Properties are to get more. And when the grass and I think they once the thatched roof might have put buyers off all that maintenance and the fire risk but now there are modern fire resistant coatings to reduce the risk and Sophie began in the real estate agent says thatch is a selling point will you have some people coming to you and saying, look what I wanted thatched cottage that organic food organic rules are when I went organic room attending just don't know what even it seems as if people building new ultramodern home with her pregnant moment of silence on the part of the building. When you said in the roof going to be thatch excitement, moving, and it's a striking contrast of the new structure wearing that classy old hat designed by architect Alister Godfrey is this traditional roof in search of a modern house or moderate house in search of something different. I think it's more than house with the cozy covering the two find a way of putting in whether it's a modern house with 400 or so-year-old, one cozy discounts and according to Christine and Brian Marshall who have lived for 40 years in the house where Chris Dodson is fixing the roof. There's something else that thatched roof provides you get this feeling of comfort. You know if a space which is something any architect would like to design in DC. This is the way of the past with future I think survival products using future where people are looking for something different from last thing recyclable.

It's got a place of let's be clear, not every man who interrupted the man to wrap up next man's blaming explained for all the talk about greater gender equality. It's still a man's world, or so says our face daily man's blaming man interrupting or man spread, then you probably man's blaming when you explain something in a kind manner, usually to a woman who might even know more than he does. Because you know no expert than you and I'll tell you why because I'm a guy and I think more than you guys will ever know, man interrupting, which speaks for itself, calm down a bit here Kelly and man spread like New York and Madrid actually deserve another man's man's blaming man interrupting not women's voices, mind and body.

Now let's be clear, not every man who interrupted the man to raptor women explain women interrupt, but women enumerate a few stats for you when the Supreme Court interrupted three times more than their male colleagues not just you know time soaks in the first 2010 interesting times and directed her five times Donald Machado blaming may be a newish term phenomenon recently birthed words are good thing because they name something and when you name something you raise consciousness.

The conversation now in the cultural table interrupted explained away squished to the side with popstar Taylor Swift appearing in court to assert a claim that she actually said a long way from that you and this resonates with the wrong messenger man took what I mean. I'm Steve Hartman. Please join Jean Paul here next Sunday morning to bury my all my goodness, I want to tell you about our new shout to his knees and each episode mean weekly, gastric and other quirky find inspiring and informative stories that exist because well maybe you do to a new interior design trend Barbie car to the right and wrong way to flasher us out getting the things that you just kind of well probably not able to do in daytime television.

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