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The best defensive player in the NFL.

A man that should have one the Super Bowl MVP this past season.

Alan Donald will be stopping by.

So very much looking forward to erring that conversation to you think you will quickly because I'm to tell Aaron that I think he is the best or that he should have won the Super Bowl MVP. Clearly he's the best offensive player in the NFL. Going back to that Super Bowl. Do you believe Cooper couple won the Super Bowl MVP was the right call. As you recall potential. He read Isaac Bruce on right after that Super Bowl did come to a close and Isaac Bruce said that Aaron Donaldson won the Super Bowl MVP. I disagree with Kubik about social Matthew Stafford really yes played well let him the big driving through the biggest early so you think it should've been Donald wow now that's a tank, some may say that's a hot take but that's why we call you by the way, since your producing this extravaganza for the next four hours, take a key on explain to me Matthew Stafford on why you thought he should one that Super Bowl MVP at Sophia Stadium was a phenomenal football game between the Rams of the bangles played wellhead but to touch on passes and and led them down for the eventual game-winning touchdown pass with a lesson two minutes left.

No, I do know is that for quarterbacks fairly are not always to get the benefit of that when it comes to that award and I'm not dumping on Matthew Stafford, the guy had a very good postseason had a wonderful year last year with the LA Rams but on the flip end of that.

You could argue that without iron Donald being on that field and that's why the geisha won the Super Bowl MVP. You can argue that if he doesn't make the play on fourth down the Rams on even when the Super Bowl? Chase is wide open down that sideline and if Joe Barro had 1/2 a second longer before Aron, Donald frozen to the ground like he is a ragdoll. Jamar Chase has a walk-in touchdown and unless it then Stafford finds a way to go score and I forgot how much time is left.

The Rams probably aren't winning that Super Bowl.

That's why we go. Donald Trump surprise and I know that your big Matthew Stafford fan, but I am surprised by you that Stafford was the decision. What when I look at that, but why not just Cooper cup because he had the he had two touchdowns and I came but was also what why just go Stafford over Cooper cup just wondering this teenager mean you know does a quarterdeck make the receiver the seer make the quarterback and so, as you know, and thought I just think Nike Matthew seven played well, a cup played at a great game 7 to 2 touchdowns. I sort of given the credit more to Stafford vessel, so let me give you the stats here from that game 84 92, two touchdowns for cup Stafford.

If you recall, had two interceptions in that game had three touchdowns, 283 yards 26 of 40. I would rank it. Donald one because he made the play the run stuff on some JP right on third down on fourth down ended the game put the ring on the finger all that go cup to an Stafford three. If I had a boat but I don't. So anyway, we will bring that up to our Donald, as we will that interview for you coming up in a 20 p.m. Eastern, 5:20 PM Pacific have to start at the show today and we usually don't start the show with audio usually give you just directly. My opinion in the first 15 minutes, but my opinion today is centered around this Mike Lombardi interview on the Pat McAfee show. Listen up to Mike Lombardi saying that Kyle Shanahan originally wanted Mac Jones and also made a run for Tom Brady when he's in Kabul he's down there so you get involved in the mass. It did have was watching tape he so Mac Jones.

He wants to trade for Mac Jones. They make the deal through and then lightly offer all these other people who really don't know because remember what the law should only if you can evaluate your coaching because one of those two resources fall. He goes back and now it's got resistance within his own will remember your earlier they want to sign Tom Brady and the resistance to Congress that was not Jones all of a sudden you can take back your staircase.you can hire chinos as is this you get that and he gets worn down. These decisions, Kyle, but she got talking last night I certain people know and now I think this is the residual effect of that trailer is ready to reflect the maybe great great two years.

She's not ready to play on that plane ride back from Houston. Kyle understood that we spoke about this crazy when you listen to that audio. Now there's two tanks from it number one how you feel on this one. Ryan Jimmy garrotte below just got that team to a Super Bowl and you could fair or not. Ask the question how much was it Jimmy how much was it the roster, but Jimmy garrotte below was starting in the Super Bowl and for the first three quarters of that Super Bowl outplayed Patrick my homes and then that off-season was one Tom Brady becomes a free-agent. We know that Brady had a desire to go play for the 49ers.

I don't know if it ever got close, they have talked about this before John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan that they contemplated it. I think like 24, 40 hours a forget exactly what the quote was and they elected to go with Jimmy G over Tom Brady clearly. I have a problem with that in the moment because it even though Brady I think we all know is a much better quarterback than Jimmy garrotte below.

It's not even close. And for years when I was you know as the Lamb offender patriots. I would sit back and go. I don't care how good people think Jimmy G's good to be I want Tom Brady be the starting quarterback for the patriots until he doesn't want to be the starting quarterback anymore, so I was totally on board with the pattern I moved on from Jimmy GI thought they could get more back to stick Brady from the 49ers standpoint on a bizarre twist. I understood even though Brady is by far and away the better quarterback why they Jimmy G because of the contract they gave him and also he was worn over throw away if he just threw the ball shorter from winning that team the Super Bowl. I know it's probably easy to hindsight 2020, just pile on a dump in the 49ers. Now you go for Brady Pursley. Though I did not have a problem with that move at the time.

How about yourself there on I'm with you, and I hate to do the age think is now.

It's stupid to sail you a hard time is going to be yet you know at that fine line.

Amber but as I get to that point. Coming off a bad Caesar we both would agree Tom Brady was better than the parts around the dragline – honk Julie was final one like that, no wide receivers of the joint like you said, still 43-year-old quarterback then you're coming off a suitable season like it's easier to sell the should've done a no-brainer. Easy now we see the success as in Tampa Bay in the moment, yet make the decision. I can't say Kyle shining and John Lynch in the moment that point really screwed it up. Okay, so glad we got that out of the way. Now it's getting to the bigger part of the conversation I don't like Michael Barty to be clear, I once an interview with them. When I was doing a low AM radio show on 920 the jersey which is like a thousand watt radio station and he called in for an interview and I get it right. Sometimes I'll admit I do long interviews L 1520 minutes, a lot of program directors don't like that I was seven minutes into my conversation with Michael Barty and he goes man, Jack, I'm never going to view this longer wear me out. I got a go man bye-bye and he hung up and only had one question I was learning about that to only one question left for Mike Lombardi and ever since I've never put them back on my radio program you brothers and give a rats ass about me brothers even remember the conversation, but I said if you're not good if you bail an interview like that and it would be one thing 20 minutes it was seven minutes so I just said to myself never to put them on the air again. So me saying I actually believe Michael Barty telling the truth isn't just a add fuel to the fire and add to the drama and now have the segment here. I believe Michael Barty told the truth that originally Kyle Shanahan wanted Mac Jones because if you go back to the day we found out I forgot was pro day. It was maybe it was Zach Wilson who was having his pro day at BYU and all these traits are going down.

I remember watching it up on that but there were some pro day and the next thing you know, we find that all these trades are will happen in the draft and shortly after that Trey did go down if you recall, it was Chris since Chris sends and Kyle Shanahan. They're very close. Absent bizarre matching tattoos or something like that.

They got done together and Chris Sims was the first one to suggest that Kyle Shanahan made this move to go get Mac Jones sold Lombardi's telling you that that was the case in than other people got in his ear. I think it's very believable. How about yourself not taking you buying what Lombardi is saying here that originally Shanahan preferred Mac Jones fell in love with Mac Jones wanted Mac Jones and then he was talked into going which reliance is now the Corvette lotto you don't believe in first. I know not all as part of the reasoning Mike Lombardi reference there was the twitter outrage. Remember Christmas put out that there was a lot of pushback at sink logic draft back Joan Regan.

You know you have to be joy. There is a lot of similarity comparisons a lot of blowback to that report of the 49ers were no there.

I am not Jones. I believe don't believe for a second caution. It would sit there and caved a public person say I really will not Jones, but everyone on Twitter all the fans all the newspaper saying we can drive my Jones. Let's go to the people in the organization as Barty said he is what I was part of it. Yes, I made a connection. Clearly Ricardo seemed changed his mind, let me be clear, real quickly. I don't think they didn't draft Mac Jones because people on twitter and the radio and TV were like how could you draft Mac Jones, but I bet you make that move to go draft Mac Jones what the bleep are you doing I think people in that building help change his opinion or help and say, okay, I'll go with Trey over Mac and here's the part that I wonder what John Lynch one.

Because let's just say time. John Lynch even said if it's close, or if there needs to be a tiebreaker will go with Kyle or something like that, but I just wonder if John Lynch was right away when they made that move because I was up in the bleep when they made that trait they had to know who they were taken.

They preferred that moment you brought the risk that much draft capital and I have an idea for you taking, and I know Shannon Windsor talked about once they made that was it not be a secret about it. I got more homework than they love trait Lance, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and generally permit a few weeks on some pockets of average bike as it was that the decision was between Mac Jones entry Lance so I do think whether it was Kyle and is skeptical. Why, or just coming around to what everyone else was seeing. I do think the other people in that building convinced Kyle to get the thumbs up entrée Lance and the reason why I asked what it John Lynch one and if what St. John Lynch was on just throwing this out there, spitball, and it John Lynch was a trait Lance guy from the start, and he was one of the people that I do convinced Kyle Shanahan let's just say that this could turn ugly. The season because of trait Lance struggles early on your to have a coach who was skeptical potentially at this theory is true on drafting trait Lance and he knows the guy in the locker room right now as his backup and Jimmy G has one a whole Lotta games form from them, and if your coach is not all in on this young quarterback then maybe you have a point in the season where Shanahan is saying John we should go back to Jimmy G if this gets dreadful and maybe John Lynch is saying no. We made this move we need to stick with our youngster, which would be the right thing to do. I don't think to be clear that they should pull trait Lance whatsoever this year unless he gets hurt and you could have your coaching your GM.

If this Lombardi report is true, clashing because Shanahan maybe focus on winning the most amount against possible and doubting trait Lance and you could have John Lynch saying no. We made this move. We were whether you agree with or not the time we got everyone's approval on it. So now we have to stick with the youngster I'm just fascinated to see a lot of moving parts Orion. I'm fascinated to see how this plays out this year, especially if you have a scenario where trait Lance struggles and now it's questionable how all in. Kyle Shanahan was entrée Lance. If you are was Michael Barty's corrected let's say there was initial love with your infatuation with Mac Jones. If Karen Kyle Shannon.

He was convinced eventually trailers are guy Eyman. I think they Kyle Shannon is a conviction guy were he is all in whatever guise there is a view of trait Lance on these all insurance on the kid to be sitting there, wishing he had sure Mac Jones and send their week three. Sinnott manually describes Kent can place things now if only I have what I wanted to go back to Jimmy G. Either way with his match of the trailers they were done we was that when Jimmy G. He sought upgrade and want to make a move and they got to find a way to make this work is the bottom line.

Regardless of these on board or not as much as people praise John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan if trait Lance flops and I know that your family loves them. These guys gotta be out of a job because they made a big move that some could deem was unnecessary. Or you could say was necessary to Jimmy G can't win it all and then if you tradable that capital and you. Let's be real trait for a guy that's an unknown when Justin feels a bit available. Mac Jones was a Heisman Trophy finalists then that move could end up ending your tenure, which people don't think about right now, but it could potentially on their 10 year if trait Lance doesn't work as you know this when you miss on a quarterback in the first round, especially in the top five top 10 picks of the draft. Not everyone to be Arizona for the go draft calamari and it saves that ship from sinking. After Josh Rosen.

Usually when you mess in a quarterback in the first 510 picks that such organization back a while site: saying is I just wonder how all in. Shanahan was and if he was in 100% all in. Naturally part of in this season of trait Lance is not before Bob could say and there was a reason why want to go with Mac. There was a reason why I wanted to go with that other quarterback instead of trait Lance and I just wonder how that dynamic plays out between John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan his second show on CBS sports were able to get timeout become a back pressure or no pressure hot ticket is compiled a list of some college football coaches this year will see who could be film the pressure this year or if I have no pressure on those coaches entering this upcoming season listening to the second Guild show is that Guild show on CBS sports radio college football is back to where you stand on this last weekend you consider college football back for week zero because I was at a sports book.

I was in Atlantic City I was watching some of the games on, but it didn't really feel like college football was back in now as we get are ones that you got some games. Clearly all throughout the week. I'm really excited for Saturday when you have your first full slate of the year and now I consider week one, not week zero week one for the start of college football season all, of course.

And yes, there are less triggers a bird appetizer nasal sprinkling. I'll get you hyped up for sure, but this is you know this the full buffet that week. One must go. I don't know if appetizer I get your point is right, but when I think of appetizer. What's the best appetizer to you in your opinion, I don't mind as to what yours best appetizer of the fact that you have an answer ready to go is just about yeah of course not know pigs in the blink takes a bite more for you that is true.

That's like the only time all except the crappy answer like that but pigs in the blanket on the great unifier in this country I could take two people on the opposite end of the political spectrum, I could take two people that just absolutely hate one another.

You put a pig in the blanket, and a bunch of picking the blankets in front of people.

It brings everyone together and everyone's happy over good pig in the blanket so that's why like to say that week zero even know your right in your analogy is the appetizer because I think appetizer pigs in the blanket and that could be better like I'm on a wedding this weekend.

The cocktail hour I expect is going to be better than the main course and I've already checked with my body that they have pigs in the blanket at this wedding. I was given the two thumbs up.

So I'm very excited for the cocktail hour, and that's why just don't like the pigs in a blanket being talked about his week zero that's a go food personal problem that something like a you probably another problem will easier if I put a pole do you like pigs in the blanket on Twitter you like a pig in a blanket. 95% of the people would say yes sure Shirley would wire. Why do you not like a pig in a blanket smelled just a hot dog there okay burger guy once in a while the dog like I should not 90 once in a blue moon now may have one or two year max cheese. There he really in the mood for and yeah I love you but I hate your fruit opinions sorry have some of the worst food opinion. I don't know what that know you do you have some the worst food opinions of ever heard anyway, let's get to a little pressure or no pressure right now to get some college football music. Alright, so no food opinion so I'm not on the hot seat. Or maybe some of you will be on the hot seat. Let's start with Dabo Sweeney is any pressure on Dabo this year so you could define pressure in many different ways you can lose your job you to keep your job. Depending on your success or failures this year as long as Dabo Sweeney wants to be the head coach at Clemson.

He's good to be allowed to be the head coach at Clemson, but in a different way of defining pressure. I do think there's a lot of attention and a lot of people are curious and are doubting Dabo for the first time in a long time on what they're going to do this year because maybe you have club to get into the mix detailing the lay did not play well last year. The offense aligned was horrible last year there was no creativity on offense and you had a lot of success. Not only did you go toe to toe with Nick Sabin you showed up who was boss a few times you guys at Clemson have one a lot now when you're what that is a top three top four program even some could say top two program in college football and you just had a disappointing season and a bad ACC no disrespect to the Pitt Panthers you have to go find a way to win that conference this year and get back to college football playoff and make DJ look like a competent quarterback like he looked up against Notre Dame. During that covert season and if it doesn't work. All eyes are to be on your backup quarterback who is highly touted siding there's pressure on Dabo Sweeney hello pressure on the reigning Big Ten champion Michigan Wolverines head coach Jim Harbaugh so you Penn stators talk cheese you Prince it was you talking about and I got a text they are not just ruined my night from 10 think I know no dear friends, Steve, Sparky, Pfeiffer okay yeah and Sparky said pass on pigs in a blanket. Sparky knows you and Steve are both to emaciated fellas. So I don't really trust your guns are. You see is easy to the guys. He said his biceps.

I think this is not made on pigs in a blanket are you working out recently. I yes I have your muscles and never been your argument and that Jack.

I never left off my shirt before flexor the cameras when you are in this when the push-ups that's right.

And your fortysomething push-ups 41 County Sheriff Greg asserted things doing updates what you say. The Greg asserted was was going all hot when talking about how take a key, that's right even though when you ripped off your shirt.

You look as Jack does. You do now like good Concerta real quickly. There was a you you thought Hickey's body look at when he ripped off his shirt and the student. I did okay flexor the cameras. There is certainly this GC look at the didn't have that before I set somebody's been hit in the machines when his girlfriend's been out of town for weeks.

I suggest as somebody not sponsoring the blanket. Your glasses are hideous, but otherwise you a gun would like to present protect my maybe the only decent length of his radio is the only one that's put together yet out of the. The arms are getting big blood trying out a like it was only a people and it look anything I'm smiling on just in case I got again little tussle is the general Penn State over the Colts from the place you already talking up and stay right here right now. I got all you and I turn it up is not a hearing under the table, he thought, here I go I guess my by the Senate. I consented to the glass tremendous liberator. We will get to a great concert updating just the second book, but real clearly now my mom just texted me I'm on. She said tell Hickey's go to work on his form again because she thought that is sloppy and that it was subs debatable anyway. Pigs in a blanket you like pigs in the blood of the mirror. Thank you. Your normal person. Or she hates him. Hate to sound like hot dogs. Likewise it once in a blue moon like two dollars a year assets… I think guys like when you go to wedding is the best part, the pigs in a blanket of the cocktail hour gets up there, and parts of crabcakes old pancakes are always good, anything that comes around with a napkin that isn't messy and doesn't require any sort of dipping is a good empanada is a good how to talk there you go. Now were talking I start my food… But for this exact scouting for the service coming in and out of it has avocado because I'm allergic or motor of the only things I won't I won't be a will there's a hole where there's always that there's always a mushroom hors d'oeuvre you always know to stay away from politely leaving a boisterous guy big guy go by the way, okay. And then they go back in the talking smack about the big guys high maintenance family problem. Do you give me the other coaches. It will Jim Harbaugh you Penn stators. By the way, hey Jim Harbaugh Hackenberg last night saying there's pressure on them. You're saying there's pressure on them. The guy just one the Big Ten and got to the college football playoff. I know people want to see if he could repeat that. But they lose Ohio State this year, then the pressure really doesn't happen until next year because he just had the success song at a signal pressure on Jim Harbaugh this year Texas head coach Steve Sarkisian. No pressure.

Even though a lot of people would say pressure pressure pressure he's at taxes you gotta bring Texas back it's because even if this year doesn't go the way that people think it's good to go work when you recess and play well. He has the safety insurance of arts Manning and then that's when the real pressure starts to speak up Penn State have at their head coach James Franklin here most overrated coach in the country. I know we just got the big long term contract extension you not even talking positively about Penn State football.

I say there's pressure because then if he doesn't exceed expectations this year. Or take Penn State fans are Penn State fans hope to one day go, it becomes all right you're good but you're not great what you go to become what he could elevate to an Franklin stuck on that very good category and it hasn't shown me yet that he could be great. The classes Big Ten recently has been Ohio State how much pressures on Friday a lot of pressure pressure when it all they been in the in the national championship game.

You have a top to quarterback in the country. Some would say the best. Depending on where you place price young up against CJ Stroud your wide receivers are always ridiculous. I don't care who you loss.

You made some changes on the defensive side of the ball. You are on the Alabama level for this season.

You gotta go with it. Also, there's pressure on Rhonda Lincoln Riley in his first year with the Trojans first-year coach in a new spot and I know Lincoln Riley just had a lot of success in Oklahoma usually say no pressure, but USC fans. They don't have a lot of patience to begin with. You bring in that tremendous wide receiver from pet to have Caleb Williams now you have one of the better coaches atop seven coach of the country. There's pressure right away and especially when you plan a pack told a lot of people love pressure Chip Kelly I know we he did better than the people thought and I'm surprised he's not in origin once again and he staying at UCLA.

I'm at a point I just don't care what Chip Kelly does anymore. This guy was greater Oregon goes the NFL was an absolute disaster with the Eagles and the 49ers and now he's at UCLA and I'm just like in whatever I never think you get to make UCLA a dominant team and that's all I just don't really care, and I have no expectations for his brother Brian Kelly look-alike kind of just the disclaimer. They're not actually related that was crappy Hickey's sarcasm right there out yet is a lot of pressure because a lot of people are doubting Brian Kelly who is a really good coach at LSU and I think people want to see him fail to get the shot. Some of those people up a little bit this year.

Two more have a the pirate Mike Leach who we saw at the draft talking shop. Poor guy talking shop right in the casino. No pressure and I know people are looking forward to his quarterback in Mississippi state they always have with Mike Leach.

You know good offenses by I just in the SEC I don't really know what to expect of them, like seminary wins for the program and finally things are rarely smooth at Rocky top have a Josh I putting pressure on. That's another job or the fan bases and patient in the fan base sometimes thinks they know what they want, but then they don't actually know what's best for them all say no pressure because he had a good your number one in the A.D. had a great connection relationship. Back at UCF and they were together, and I like pens and hookers.

I think they'll be fine not to make the ship sink this year and I don't put any pressure on Josh typo in your number two that's Lopressor. No pressure was killed show on CBS sports radio timeout, a new report on may be some potential playoff expansion, one that could be coming.

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One day, flicked on my old station I hear great concern broadcast in Trenton their games. This third. I can't wait until like five, six years from now, and maybe hopefully sooner we get Concerta doing major league baseball games and just going nuts announcing some local major-league baseball things three years or less, three or less. So let me just rewind like a fly radio anything here. I can't be the voice of like the Texas Rangers Chris Pro sandwich artist, amateur spokesperson. New subway delivery order only on the subway up and get special deals like cereal delivery fee Koreas are you ordering on the subway app right now. Maybe food can I get in on that eat fresh refresh from the top, please freshly prepare for your order. Limited time of anticipating shops, terms, taxes and other fees still apply your listening to the second building show and you are trying car care needs to guarantee low prices and excellent customer service from the professional parts people at O'Reilly auto parts.

This tweet from Brett McMurphy, the college football playoff board of managers Friday Cloyd adopt a 12 team playoff for the final two years of current playoff contract in 2024 and 2025 sources tell Brett McMurphy at action network HQ. This is the proposed 12 team format recommended last year by the college football playoff working group 1st reported by Ross Belanger, Nike, here's the problem I have with this last year. All these talks are or they share all the talks crumbled because that Alliance that was always flaky and you knew that that alliance was really good to be kept intact because this is an a in a weird way. Survival of the fittest in college football. You, the ACC can. They were at that conference in that conference, but ultimately what your schools want to leave to go to another conference where the ACC the big 12. The back. 12. Whatever to get up and go like if you could have USC and UCLA want to Big Ten Big Ten as receipt if Oklahoma and Texas wanted to leave the big told the SEC that was inevitable. So we saw the Texas Oklahoma moves happen.

It's almost as if the rest of like logistically ACC the big 12. The pack told a panicked and even to the Big Ten to some standpoint because the SEC was getting stronger and it's already preeminent conference and they just got to mega brands and it wasn't there… Join forces for now so we could try to weaken the SEC on any voting or just put off any further discussions. But the problem in doing that is inevitably there was could be more change and inevitably bigger brands or big brands were to be on the move and eventually they just get to be a time where this gets what truncated to maybe three super conferences are two super conferences or maybe just one big super conference together so it didn't really make sense why they elected to wait and now basically a year later, a season later.

It's here comes the college football board of managers Friday that could adopt a 12 team player for the final two years. The current playoff contract in 2024, 20, 25 makes a lot of sense because what you see now at the switch very first last year's Okuma Texas move in the big 12 delicious in that kind of spur door kind of through talks off the rails will now there's a report that with the big 12 negotiating ESPN that with the other four teams, neck sure that they get a new deal that could expedite Oklahoma and Texas is leaf in the big 12 and entrance of the SEC also USC UCLA are going to the Big Ten starting 2024 severe right now a team in any of the conference you're looking at arguably all four spots at the current format remains coming from the Big Ten or the SEC all four by like there's a there's a real possibility to conferences could eat up all for those spots. Nothing changes. Only the only team that would probably have a leg to stand on may be to would be Clemson still inside the ACC to get into the four still. And then if Notre Dame is undefeated then that goes into a different topic of conversation and probably get you the big 12. If you're the pack 12 oh you're right if you're the ACC if Clemson can get back to that a legally elite level you're on the outside looking in, so your goal. How to begin the playoff of the brain that I and Marty stated they ever get things going and if they were undefeated or what must they would still have a seat at all hell bodies of those you know to get an error 12 that is poor, and you get paid the covers get money. And now, if you know that's part of being that the deal moving how you incentivize schools to stay cool it will get three teams and will get a payoff from the cultural plow.

It's just amazing to me because I personally don't think they should expand and I recently did than two years ago. I said they should expand.

Just keep it up for and then I said and I said as her fears if they are going to expand. I would only like to see it go to eight because I have even weighed that white flag, where expansion I know is inevitable and I would just go to eight and at the time. Now this needs to be changeable, but with all the movement but at the time I was saying your five power five conference winners get in that you have a group of five spots like Cincinnati of a year ago and you have two wildcard teams with the remaining two best teams that are non-conference champions going to 12 though that's a lot of teams and I just fear the and I know it all comes down to money. When you go to 12 like at four we struggle to find good games.

We had to get good games just because were adding more teams.

That to me as it is the tough part where you go to 12. It just seems like there's too many and is good to be some three lost teams potentially that get into a 12 team playoff and I don't need to see a three lost team in a 12 team playoff was a goal to get more competitive games right away. The answer is no because right there.

The semi phone is not competitive right now for teams thoughts. The incentive is if you can have more teams get into the playoff and more teams of access you can promote that import recruiting come here sir, we have a chance make the playoffs. Also now you could start to try to take away recruits going new Alabama and Georgia and Ohio State and get them to what say second-tier programs are gotta spread the talent out to create more parity in the sport that desperately right now needs. Just amazing how we are still here and now look at.

I don't want to say that we got an answer because when this gets officially announced. I'll say okay and then the contracts away and will see what it turns out to be.

It's amazing how long, and it fits into right college football and NCAA athletics. How outdated is that how antiquated some may say just takes forever to make simple decisions. It's wild to me. How were still discussing like we've been discussing this thing for what, five, six years expansion and we still sit here and now we think we know what could happen. The final two years of this deal and I guess Murphy's put it out there and once again the board of managers Friday scored a says: adopt a 12 team player for the final two years. I don't want to sale believe it when I see it, because I have a feeling these are put this out there it's gonna happen, but we still don't know what the long-term future of college athletics but more I want to.

More importantly for this discussion but the future. The playoff is to look like. It's amazing how were still on this conversation, and the tricky part of the report is in order for the playoff format to change before the contradict expires after the 2025 season SV unanimous all attend conference conference measures and Notre Dame. After all, simultaneously. 11 say this is our format like you know college football is very divided.

I hope it gets done is in the pack told I would say no is why wanted the big 12. Say yes to this big 12 bath for new schools that are entering and I know that they're losing Texas and Oklahoma. This opens up a chance for one of their schools outside chance or two to get in on Ford to be tough to get in. Just because the quality of of the conference is good to go down a little bit when you lose a school like Oklahoma and no school outside of Oklahoma's guidance in the big 12, so it's now you know it's and that that meal ticket is out. You know you want more access so I don't think the big 12 would say no.

I would agree the ACC it's pretty much Clemson or boss now so I would say that the ACC wouldn't say no either grading abilities in a school may be to win we know the SEC that they tended like you thumbs up because in your third and fourth place teams could probably gradually the pack 12 is the one that that's the wildcard to be. Now there's a bunch of other conferences to I don't have the other good approaches, but the pack 12.

The wildcard because they're losing USC they're losing UCLA and may be more schools pack told him in existence.

By the time we get to this expansion culpable playoff pretension about what a way to keep the coverage for right is by getting teams in their giving organ a chance if you say no and so for teams organ sin.

There's a wee biscuit no chance good health while you want to say yeah you got it I had to limited conference afloat and have a chance of surviving is by saying yes I met at the pack told us they know much that you have a really good organ team but you have a bunch of other one lost teams and their maybe they go stick it to Oregon because the pack 12 prevented us from going to 12 teams in organ. The first chance I get will be right at the door.

Yeah. And as they should organ to probably go to the big 12 to the Big Ten. That's what makes the most sense to me once USC and UCLA go to the big time geography in college sports. It's long dead and try to make sense of this is basically impossible. So the athletic put out some numbers in a simulation with NFL teams for this upcoming season will give you those numbers.

On the other side will tell you if it's good to be higher or lower than what the athletic is currently predicting second socio-sports radio