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Julia and her just a warning that I terrible storm is coming. You need to be prepared. The left is not content abortion or same-sex weddings or assisted suicide. Even the legal want to force you to help if you want help. You won't be able to earn a living for your family because your job is now been redefined to include the things we are being discriminated against because of what we believe in being taught that were intolerant. We will accept other people when in fact we will accept other people and we are taught to be loving toward all people. This is understanding the times radio with John Markel Jens to guess the seller have been busy writing books and hosting a daily radio talk show in Green Bay Wisconsin by Clemente as the station manager Q 90 is a cohost of the daily program stand up for the truth David Carranza.

Mike's latest book is titled the death of Christian thought section of humanism and how to protect yourself.

David Brosseau is the other half of the radio duo. David's latest book is titled redefining truth illusions of replacing God and calling people good olive tree is not carrying either of these two books will tell you later how you can obtain a copy I guest are here to discuss the terrible storm that's quickly coming against the Judeo-Christian community. Join the conversation right after Chick-fil-A fronts Christian values and article title Chick-fil-A's creepy infiltration of New York City. The brands arrival here feels like an infiltration in no small part because of its persuasive Christian traditionalism care to weigh in Athenian chief correspondent has the faith nation David Brady hi David what he think where do I begin this segment is what I got inside I mean this is hypocrisy at its meeting hypocrisy at its best. Here's the problem.

The New Yorker liberal, obviously liberal magazine and all of that. This is what they do.

It's a latte sipping crappy talk with other liberals and also becomes his narrative out there. Christian traditionalism you mean Holland Judeo-Christian values that define this country from its inception. Look at the article is so ridiculous and silly different fronts. Just think this if this guy is going to write an article like this will, how about I don't know maybe you should stop using money because last time I checked in God we trust is on our currency and we go on and on because he talked about all the symbols that Chick-fil-A has about God and Jesus. My goodness, it's all over grilled chicken sandwich and a pretty good and welcome to the program and that was just a little tease because frankly you would have to be totally disconnected to not understand that the war against Christians in the Western world is in high gear. Christians are now targets of choice, and you may not yet have been affected, but you will be for sure someone you care about either has been affected or will be affected traditional American Christians have long been on the losing end of the culture war contest on school prayer, same-sex marriage, and other issues. One, my guest this hour.

Quote Ben Shapiro of the daily liar who says here's the real issue when your religion is government and government is God cannot tolerate any other God before it and you assume that all those who believe in God wish to mobilize government in order to impose God's will. While the rise of secularism has consequences. At least for those who are people of faith and also for the health of the country. Europe decided to go secular. Decades ago, and look at the consequences will talk about this for the hour. I have two guests on the line from Wisconsin and now kind of familiar voices David C. Araiza and Mike LeMay. They are both hosts on the popular stand up for the truth radio program out of Green Bay Q 90 welcome gentlemen to the program. Thank you Jennifer Avina. Thank you, Jim, David, let me address this question to you because you state the trend has changed from disagreeing with Christians to targeting them and you say, story after story is appearing where it seems like a Christian has a huge target on them that they are being picked off almost literally. Anyway, I want to talk about some of these issues and your writing a whole lot about these issues and by the way your writing an extremely provocative way and I appreciate it. Thank you Jan yeah that was on article called Christians, are now targets of choice. It used to be the people on the left door just a bit. Whoever didn't believe in God and Jesus Christ have a biblical worldview used to be that they just simply disagreed with that has changed to now there vocal in their attacks on so that article was on the one relating to a Cory Booker's grilling of Mike Pompeo. He demanded to know Pompeo stance on homosexual fact, he said do you believe gay sex is a perversion and Pompeo just took the class the angle and that this is what I've always talking about about regarding marriage.

Booker's line of questioning was actually unconstitutional.

Can you imagine being having a Jew, a Muslim, someone else after that same kind of question. It wouldn't happen. Now the constitutional clearly forbid religious test for public office in Booker's line of questioning. It was against the Christian but was unconstitutional while others can actually play that clip a complete little later, but you've raised it now and I think the audience now is in six if they haven't heard it. I wondering what on earth you're talking about let me play it's 2 1/2 minutes Cory Booker quizzing then Secretary of State candidate Mike Pompeo, who by the way, is an evangelical Christian must play that you know Frank Gaffney yes I do and you gonna show dozens of times. I was on the show some yes I have your over 20 times and she is talked about Muslims should be pooh-poohed by by the appearance of their faith should be considered to be tried for acts of sedition and should be prosecuted. Did you remain silent when you want to show did you ever question that a lot of the statements here, you remain silent on the my notes at least your friend of his with you silent in your position of authority against these works are violative of the American Constitution we silent with Sen. my record on this is unambiguous.

I served in a rapid response did not say anything because his remarks were not Brigitte Gabriel. Do you know her I do at someone who is been runs a organization that has been considered a hate group by the Anti-Defamation League Southern poverty Law Center, where you silent call her out on her remarks are hateful or bigoted spoken to a number of groups in my eye but I believe my record with respect to tolerance of the work people as I think you never yes or no did you ever call her out that I could cook and I don't always statement I made over 54 years okay will I believe the special obligation to talk about for Americans condemned things are attacking our constitutional ideals will obligate you in your own definition to speak out when it come that if I might. I have called out with terrible thought and Katzmann Fred Phelps served my mind about a minute left, I could.

I do want to give you a chance to speak about your comments on the lesbians you said in the speech that morning in America that endorses perversion and calls it an alternative lifestyles. Your words is being gay, a perversion center I when I was a politician. I had a very clear view on whether it was appropriate for same-sex persons to marry. I stand by that monopoly was appropriate for two gay people to marry that I continue to hold that view is the second view on the State Department. I met some in Africa that are married under your leadership. You do not believe that that should be allowed that we have. I believe it's the case we have married gay couples at the sale you should know I treated them with the exact same set of right believe gay sex is a perversion.

Mike LeMay I heard this live I almost had to pick myself up off the floor and it's amazing.

It is sad of all known liberals will ask questions and never give you a chance and he exact and that it textbooks up right on the follow rules for radicals and misleading question.

Setting a person up when they can't possibly have a good answers, like when did you stop beating your wife. There is no good answer to that thing handled that that I'm I would be remiss if I don't point out is this attack on Christianity is being fostered with some of our very churches Cory Booker two years ago was held up as a leader at the Willow Creek leadership Summit demand that Christians should emulate his leadership style and here he is laughing my Pompeo and you don't North Korea and Iran in the Middle East facing up. I think these are crucial issues in all Cory Booker's doing is a sideshow to divert from the important issues and laying his political hold of you will for a presidential run. So it's just it's despicable and its saddle liberals laughed misleading question, never give you a chance to answer, and it's very sad that some of our churches are promoting men like Cory Booker as ideal leaders for Christians to look up well stated Mike LeMay or listening to understanding the times radio and Jan Markel have on the line Mike LeMay and D&C Rozell and they host the program stand up for the truth out of here 90 that's out to Green Bay Wisconsin and we are talking about. And quite frankly what I think is a storm that was brewing on the horizon and I just wanted so I moved to another story here quickly leave a lot to cover in a short time. What talk you little bit about California assembly Bill 2943 which is going to ban counseling services and the sale of books expressing all orthodox views, possibly could ban the Bible and a pro-LGBT Q Bill is quickly making its way to the California State assembly after it was approved on the floor recently. The bill now goes to the Senate for a vote if pass this assembly Bill 2943 could ultimately threaten free speech and freedom of religion for Christians a day for you Rozell you have written about this as well. This is going to ignore constitutional rights. Mike Huckabee writes California is conducting a massive attack on Christianity and this is what happens when liberalism runs amok.

But talk to us a little bit of a David about this assembly Bill 29, 43, which to me and my impression my view again this is that terrible storm is brewing on the horizon.

We've gone from disagreeing with Christianity discriminating against them or openly, and it was past the Interbank counseling services and the sale of expressing Orthodox Christian views about sexual immorality.

The bill would ban the Bible possibly think of. Book burning this kind of thing comes to mind, but a B-29 43 would make it unlawful, it is not wanted to engage in transactions offering to pursue sexual orientation change efforts with an individual so I like a quote from a national review David French youth of California state law lock in a sexual revolution, orthodoxy that hurts the very people they seek to protect the bottom line. No state legislature should be permitted to ban a good service and this is again the underlying against Christian agenda paragraph 28 of the bill says this is disallowed to offer to engage in, or engaging in sexual orientation change efforts of an individual that what the public schools are doing, Jim. Are they not taking our young children who are innocent and in filling their minds with confusion about sexual orientation and gender confusion.

So if you can ban books and try to change someone's sexual orientation view maybe should start by banning public education.

Well get out California and unfortunately what often begins in California can spread across the country were very quickly, I mean the elected Democrats out there are now pushing for a get this folks a communist holiday to replace US presidents day.

Sometimes you have to conclude Mike and and David that the left out. There has been given over again to strong delusion.

They been given over to this reprobate mind again I agree with that Gov. Mike of the who says California is conducting a massive attack on Christianity and is that what this comes down to this ultimately just another attack on Christianity is at the root of it will think about that if our struggle is not against flesh and blood. Then we know the underlying battle. Here's spiritual so why do they always attacked the name of Jesus.

He is the only God that is alive, so the enemy knows in California. Whatever it's worth the good strong Christian there definitely the minority definitely battling a lot of these issues being discriminated against and we got a remember to keep our our Christian friends there in prayer, but know how can we respond we've known there's a track record.

Now Christians believing the Bible natural marriage of Ben suspended or fired from jobs sued taken. The court slandered some have lost businesses commerce them either that the Jack Phillips court case which we will be hearing from the Supreme Court any time on how they come down on the California year right Jan that they set a precedent and what what happened in California unfortunately doesn't stay in California. Let me display clip to backup what were talking about. This is California could ban books on homosexuality and transgender is him and the question is being raised by many. Could this include banning the Bible.

California is looking to pass a bill that could ban the sale of Christian books that address issues of homosexuality and transgender is him proceedings to pass the law are taking place quickly in the state and the bill could pass in the California Senate as soon as late May joining us now to talk more about this is and talk. She is the executive director of restored hope network, which oversees about 13 ministries in California that help people overcome same-sex attraction while command thank you for having me explain for us what is in this bill. Well, I really have to hear about it. It actually prohibit both reporting and material being told that help people who want to leave them with sexuality, including adult info it prohibits both the sale of any exchange related to financial exchange for counseling services or products and materials including Christian counseling Christian conferences, book videos, you name it. Even advertising. This material are potentially subject in the state of California. If this bill passes, how does affect the Bible because obviously the Bible speaks out against homosexuality. Indeed, it does now the Bible might be prohibited in the case that somebody wrecked company says hey I'm looking at is homosexuality okay with God.

Well, let me recommend to you that you purchased this Bible and the M. For that question. The person goes and looks and looks and reads first Corinthians 6 1911, which prohibit sexuality and says that such were some of you, which is amazing testimony of transformed life regenerated life amazing all the and they do that because the person went and purchased the Bible based upon the philosophy that that gives them the end. For how to leave homosexuality they could literally do based upon that fact, the Bible. In that case would be prohibited in Mike and David, I'm going back to the little clip I played into the program and then use the attack on chicks to label things New Yorker magazine recently suggested Chick-fil-A which is the third largest restaurant franchise in America doesn't belong in their blue state. That's New York because of the alleged infiltration of what one writer called pervasive Christian traditionalism again the Christian worldview is under serious attack and a storm is coming. Indeed, it is Jan and I think the reason American businesses and churches in America are particularly being targeted Judeo-Christian worldview is really in my opinion the last thing stopping the globalist complete takeover to complete federal government because the Bible speaks very clearly about this coming so I think the reason the full court press is going on in America's number one call yourself a Christian nation, and number two United States and its Judeo-Christian principles can be toppled or dismissed and open the door for the globalist to have full reign with the plans that they are carefully trying to implement David.

Your thoughts on this. This is nothing less than Chick-fil-A a phobia Jan the headquarters of the New Yorker magazine, ground zero for the latest outbreak of what they call it Christian pervasive Christian traditionalism yes salt I mean I get. We just thought about California now are talking to New York.

No surprise, we were talking about almost a benign company but either built on family values, hard work, integrity or mission is simply glorify God. They donate out of the pounds of food to the homeless.

But somehow there a threat to the city of New York. I will, I would say the liberals of New York, I mean that that New Yorker magazine article, it got flack from both sides on this one, but the point is this attack is against Christian value. Carlson says that modern liberalism is a religious movement to replace Christianity and he goes on to say you can't commit sin if your intentions are pure and liberals believe their intentions are the purest. If that sounds like theology and not public policy. That's because it is theology.

Modern liberalism is a religious movement it's replacement for the Protestant Christianity that the left works so hard to undermine and destroy liberals are speaking the language of faith, albeit a faith without God. This is the main reason that the right and left talk past each other. The reason our public debates are so weird and unsatisfying. One side arrives with facts and stats and arguments. The other brags about its decency. One side is trying to convince the other is trying to convert what I get back you want to talk about a couple of things I do want to talk about to something you've written David Serra's own and that is you've written about the Beyoncé mass that happened in nine in San Francisco and also Mike Lemay you've had kind of a personal experience with the issue that were talking about the marginalization of Christians and forcing Christians to comply with godless principles and godless ideas and and and I want you to to talk about exactly what happened or what's in the process of happening to you. They are in that Wisconsin near Green Bay. I'm coming that folks in just a couple of minutes and we will continue our discussion with Mike Lemay and David Serra so you can catch them online and stand up for the truth is every morning. I believe at 9 AM central time on Q 90 understanding times errors there every Saturday at 9 AM central time back in just a couple minutes ago you enjoyed the first installment of Jan's conversation with her to just on today's edition of understanding the times digital recordings of today's broadcast can be yours when you phone our order line 763-559-4444 rouses latest publication, redefining truth illusions of replacing God and calling can be ordered through Amazon.com Mike Lemay's new publications with death of Christian thought section of humanism, how to protect yourself Also reported Amazon.com.

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Let's return to John Markel's discussion with Mike Lemay and David for also looked and sounded like a concert in a church.

First of its kind Beyoncé mass and I people wrapped around the side of the Cathedral time to attend the blockbuster mass and hundred people didn't expect this was River.

Jude hardens his Grace Cathedral like to the service on Facebook and blew up the small exploration of the community about what it means to lift off watching the horses I use Beyoncé as an essential figure to have these conversations about the reality that black women face Rev. Yolanda Norton is the brain behind Beyoncé mass thinking tonight serving as a professor at San Francisco theological seminary and teach the class on Beyoncé and Hebrew Bible explains that she's using Beyoncé's wide appeal to bring a diverse group of people together and have people think that you know were worshiping Beyoncé.

None of that is true. This is a way to just have different kinds of conversation is nothing scheduled but this will not be the last Beyoncé mass in San Francisco, Kate Larson Avenue. Well, it doesn't get much stranger than that I want to talk about that this segment our mother, who art in heaven, hallowed be Beyoncé before I get there. Just let me make a quick announcement here and because you've heard our promo for understanding the times 2018 seats for that event are almost sold out. There are few left and that by the way, there are no bad seats in the 4300 seat venue that we have a Grace Church, Eden Prairie, Minnesota. But if you would prefer to just enjoy the September 29 conference in the comfort of your home church fellowship group we will be live streaming the event at no cost.

You just have to access our website on the day of the conference, you might get a group together and enjoy it by connecting your computer or maybe to the big screen. The event will also be archived so you can watch it a day or a week or even a month later so quick reminder that we have a section for the hearing impaired and will provide a facilitator and sign language in some of those seats remain. But you have to call brushfire ticketing for sign language seats and for handicap seats again for sign language and handicap have to call the brushfire ticketing agency 888-338-5338 David Serra so you wrote about this Beyoncé mass I found it I found it intriguing to me is quote what you've written here, you wrote Grace Cathedral and Episcopal Church in San Francisco held what's called Beyoncé mass and at an evening service 50 people generally 900 turned out. People are free to worship however they want that doing this at a church was both confusing and controversy all the Bible teaches Christians to be set apart from the world not to blend in.

And Jesus said if we love the things of this world, God the father's love is not in us.

They Beyoncé mass was inspired by a guest. Rev. Yolanda Norton and by an actual class. She teaches at San Francisco theological seminary.

Beyoncé and the Hebrew Bible gentleman.

I can't wait to sign up for that class. Sounds really inspiring. David, your thoughts on this year I'm going to read another quote from you here, but a Beyoncé mass. So please, what next, will first of all San Francisco theological seminary in the class Beyoncé and the Hebrew Bible who knew Jan, I don't know must grieve God's heart and I know a lot of believers to God's word seriously disagree them as well but you you almost have to laugh at this.

But again the Huizinga entertainment to to seep into the church and culture and entertainment. They're dangerous when they are so not Christian. Were talking about someone who is lifted up as a role model for young girls, particularly African-American girls we know about her occult influences.

Her graphic and offensive song lyrics are sexually charged R rated performances on stage or past blasphemy shelf admits to be being possessed by demonic x-ray named to give it a name Sasha. Here's when she goes in the one of her performances. Though this is all you can look this up within her word and in other people who done exposes on her.

The spirituality behind this is interesting behind it. Contemporary feminism and often comes in the form of goddess worship and the fact that many have a desire to overthrow the patriarchal structure in society. If the rebellion against God as father. One idea behind this is liberation freedom for women to regain their natural power, right, have a already over man now Jan in order to accomplish this dominance. We must invoke certain spirits and help destroy the Judeo-Christian religion and that's why in this Beyoncé Matthew had to have they come up with this perverse feminist version of the Lord's prayer our mother who is in heaven and within us. We call upon your names, your wisdom, your will be done in all the spaces in which you dwell in it goes on and I want to quote the whole thing but that should grieve our hearts because these people are lifting this up as something that's supposedly going to drop people in and point them to do what the only true God. I don't think that I want to read the prayer. I think we should read the whole prayer our mother who is in heaven and within us. We call upon your names, your wisdom come, your will be done in all the spaces in which you dwell give us each day. Sustenance and perseverance remind us of our limits as we give grace to the limits of others separate us from the temptation of Empire, but deliver us into your community for you are the dwelling place within us the empowerment around us in the celebration among us now and forever. Amen David you go on to say, and you rightfully cited Beyoncé's occult leanings and that's an understatement to some of our listeners remember the 2013 Super Bowl halftime show where she mimicked the Hindu God is colleague. Certainly she and her husband Jay-Z made the actually market occult clothing, etc. but you say going back to this queen. They Beyoncé but is Queen Bay and appropriate role model for the African-American woman, particularly for women who do seek to follow the Bible's teachings on holiness, morality, sanctification, in truth, these are not bad people there just wrong and ignorant about promoting evil and this is another gospel you say for information. Grace Cathedral also sealed the candlelight labyrinth walks etc. Ella McCall Christian news.net.

However, some state that the often scantily clad sexually suggestive singer isn't exactly the most exemplary role model for African-American women, especially those who seek to follow Christ and lead holy lives.

Beyoncé is a horrifying role model for those who want to worship the living God. But sadly she is a great role model for those who would rather worship Beyoncé themselves and dark occult take powers as I am so glad you wrote about this to David for arousal will thank you, John. How could I not like that come out and how much have we seen in the last couple decades and Mike and I talk about it. Almost every week where a church in America uses worldly means air entertainment. In this case.

In many cases to attract the world. Think about this. Take this to its logical conclusion.

Once you get the people the world in your church, whatever church that might be what are you gonna do to keep them there. If you used the world to attract them through. That's all right David.

I mean, when you attract people with things of the world you have to keep them with things of the world as we see the growth coming in the money coming.

It's very difficult for a pastor to revert back and teach the actual word of God because suddenly find a slot reduced by 80%. You have to water down the gospel to keep them will Beyoncé and her husband Jay-Z. They proudly wear clothing that celebrates every occult theme including arch Satanist Aleister Crowley and they often sing and celebrate Lucifer and they flash signs and symbols that are blatantly occult take again folks over talking about was a Beyoncé mass that took place in the San Francisco church. Obviously, it's not the church but let's face has California at San Francisco and all that we can make those kinds of excuses gentleman, but talk about the great end time apostasy the falling away and I doubt this church ever had the lights of suggesting that it went from light to dark is probably a stretch. I suspect it's always been dark but I've watched this whole service online. It was shocking simply chucking there's one thing that the Rev. one of the Rev. Baird shoot.

Harmon said it would very revealing Jan he said conservative Christian. The high wall separating the church from the world. Progressive Christians do not. And therein lies the little nugget of truth that they think you can just blend them. Everything is going to be okay and they'll still somehow come to the conclusion that the Bible and Jesus is the only way okay well I think they said all we can about the Beyoncé message just is indicative of what's happened here in the insert of these last days. Frankly, I think some of my listeners are shocked but maybe they shouldn't be, but let's talk a little bit about them what's going on in your neighborhood, kind of, literally, and Mike LeMay.

You and I talked recently and folks are listening to understanding the times radio and Jan Markel.

I'm talking to Mike LeMay and Dave is here. So from Q 90 Green Bay, Wisconsin, and they host the popular daily program stand up for the truth. You can find that online if you're not living in that part of the main area of Wisconsin.

You apparently last October with only minimal public disclosure. Let me explain to me to set the stage now given to you Mike to explain what happened and where you're at now with minimal public disclosure of the D pair Wisconsin city Council and that's where your radio station is licensed debated a nondiscrimination proposal that would force establishments in the pair to hire and provide any and all services for homosexuals and gender confused people. It eventually passed 54 and during the hearings you Mike along with several local pastors expressed your concerns that the ordinance was written so broadly that it could force Christian churches and your radio station Q 92 promoting events that are opposed to biblical teachings, you take it from there. Mike what happened where you see it going well we been talking about the attack on Christianity for eight years instead of the truth, and it certainly has his own.

Jan and I hope listeners that are listening to this will understand the need to be diligent at the local level. Holy the hastily called public meeting, there was probably five hours of testimony in the question-and-answer session, and this was listed by the way, the city's website afterwards.

The city attorney stated publicly they had no intention of forcing this ordinance on churches or religious organizations. While we said was more than simply put, it clearly religious exemption clause in to the legislation and they refuse to do it now we have something we told them before the hearing that if they pass this we believe was unconstitutional and we would be upholding it in court. They thought we were blocking so Pacific Justice Institute is defending us in five Christian churches that were bringing a lawsuit against the city of the peer very interesting channel. How public officials will deceive you.

They said publicly, there was no intention of forcing churches or religious organizations to adhere to this now. We filed our challenge in court. The court is asked the city of De Pere to respond and guess what they're now saying that we know this applies to churches and we expect churches to follow its mandates full.

They deceived people up front. Jan the hearing itself was amazing. One pastor got up and said what local business owner had a Bible out of this counter had assigned as window that said, we believe in the biblical definition of marriage. Could they be sued under this ordinance, the city attorney said well we don't know. I guess we just have to find out while and it is absolutely appalling. The motive of the city officials and the peer is clear they want to shut down churches, force churches in our radio station to all things are unbillable by the way, Jan, our Board of Directors is unanimous. We will not give in. Even if this remains a law were were not currently the next hearing on June 1.

If we lose, we will be appealing to the Wisconsin Supreme Court were confident of victory and await Jan if we lose locally. It might be a blessing in disguise. At this point if it goes to the Wisconsin state Supreme Court, which is a conservative court. This may force the overturn of these types of ordinances throughout Wisconsin because many cities in Wisconsin peer simply took a cookie-cutter approach and put the same legislation for that Appleton and other cities have, so I hope your listeners around the nation will be diligent will be watching their public officials watching their school boards we built were so busy chasing entertainment and sports and running nowadays were so overwhelmed with dizziness were not able to see evil happening right before our eyes. So I certainly hope that Christians around the nation will wake up and realize their religious liberties are under attack by an enemy will do everything he can to the courts education and media to silence God and his word once and for all. Okay now I think our concern is that this indeed can and will spread across the country. This kind of tactic you said to me that you just implied here a minute ago as well that your station Q 90 Green Bay, you would have to promote LGBT Q events on-air near Christian station.

This would pass you have to promote things on air in my understanding is, then churches would also have to promote various activities and you told me you would go to jail first and but you can be called a hater of course, might correct. I mean that's for all this always leads my lovely wife works with her. The ministry said congratulations sweetheart you saw my meds become the most loved and hated man in the city of Toronto bedtime. Okay, there's a hearing June 1 and that's just a few days away actually sell how you think this hearings and play out.

What is interesting Jan because the initial judgment was appointed we don't really good is actually a believer city. It appears that we don't want that judge for another one appointed. I did some research on the judge and he is a strong promoter of the LGBT Q agenda so we veto that choice with comical football game where each coach gets one challenge now on June 1, the new judge will be appointed here, she will be the mandatory judge on this so Jan, we don't know you know we know we have the Constitution Wisconsin and the United States backing is clearly we have case law back and is clearly but you know as well as anyone. It all depends what type of judge hears the kick and you also said to me that went. When all this was kind of playing out. They came in and and then parent in these blatantly lied to you, I mean. In other words, you can't trust a word. These folks are saying that when they're setting the stage here for these kinds of laws. No think about a Jan I mean believe they said in the hearings. We have no intention of enforcing this on churches and the radio station. We don't view them as places of public accommodation. But then when the legal challenge can be now reversed course and said no we think churches and your nonprofit radio station are places of public accommodation and we expect you to adhere to this law so you can't trust officials because they will live through their teeth to promote their agenda and more Christians don't stand up and realize what's happening is to be just a peer Wisconsin is going to be in every city in every state in our great nation. Well, that's why am even doing a segment on the summing listeners made think well this is your part of Wisconsin is your problem not mine. And the point is that Emily started out talking about California but starts in California spreads cross-country but then Natalie pink and be going on in in that the area near Green Bay Wisconsin certainly can be spreading across country very easily very quickly. Gentlemen want to get back.

Here's what I'd like to do with, presented some issues here today and I think things are out of control in a Anaheim knife said now it's to be the fourth time I said storm is coming.

Storm is already here of the storm is the absolute attack and assault by the last on all things Christian conservative the Christian that the biblical worldview is completely under attack by the godless left and it's getting literally worse by the day that by the year but by the day and I'd like to talk about what can the average listener. Do I think some feel a little bit helpless. They hear about the activity in California, and the bill we talked about that could in a worst-case scenario band hypo for goodness sakes and lick their egg strong believers in California. So what can folks in North Dakota do what can folks in Florida do Christians who are hearing this are kind and wondering what's next. If you would way into this when we get back.

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Sometimes being faithful to Christ means that our lives are going to be threatened. Sometimes I'm in the history of the church is filled with such and when push comes to shove, we have no alternative. In my view.

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There are consequences hi am David fear so because of our past silence. Fewer people are being saved in cultures rapidly became Jesus said you are the salt of the earth.

But if the salt has become tasteless. How can it be made salty again. Not sure that God is doing some great things and lots of churches immoralities is increasing in America.

Christians are not having the impact we used to have religious freedoms are being threatened. Dietrich Bonhoeffer once said, silence in the face of evil is itself evil. What are we so afraid of, and why we keep ducking the issue of sin, you know, when Peter and the apostles were ordered not to speak about Jesus you know they said we must obey God rather than man. The apostle Paul later said if I were still trying to please men, I would not be a servant of Christ. They all understood the silence never saved anyone. So if we really love others.

We tell them the truth that sin separates us from God.

Silence in the face of evil is evil itself just a couple of comments here before we wrap up our program and I remember you get a CD of any program become CD subscriber got a call us on that very nominal cost. Get a CD of every program.

The program is always posted to my website. Olive tree views.org on Saturday or if you prefer to get the one place.com mobile app you can have the program downloaded every Saturday to your various devices and dose. Please look in my print and E newsletter one shoe had an interesting hour here and have on the line from the Green Bay Wisconsin area Mike LeMay and Dave Serra's a for them both on my program before and the both authors get tremendous books out and that they host the program stand up for the truth out Green Bay, Wisconsin, and you can listen online. I highly recommend you do because you will hear some cutting edge information you don't hear a lot of other places that I Wanted to save this closing segment as we presented a lot of problems this hour love dilemma.

Let's put it that way. Lotta dilemma going on in the Christian community and in the church and in other places. Certainly marginalization the fact that a storm is coming against believers, Christians, conservatives, gentlemen, let's spend the next 10 minutes talking about solutions and we talked a little bit off air and that you suggested some solutions. Let's go there.

We can pray we can get involved. Mike what you mean get involved well first of all, being involved and knowledgeable about what is happening in your local government and in your school boards we can make a difference about asking if God wants you to run for a position in your local government or your school board school board still have a tremendous amount of influence on the curriculum that are children are being taught so if you don't feel the call to be involved as a school board member or city Council member at least watch the papers be cognizant of what's going on and make sure your voice is heard when these types of things are presented that were facing here and appear Wisconsin fully can be spiritually prepared and sets getting to be a full-time job because this the push back the spiritual warfare is getting us so intense as the enemy ramps up his attacks in his strategy that he absolutely chatted and being spiritually prepared to me is a two-step process. Number one, we know the truth that God is already one.

The final war victory as his. Satan is a defeated enemy trust in God's word.

Secondly, the Bible does Warners these things are going to get worse and worse.

Always virtually prepared as the attacks intensify when the day comes when maybe we cannot assemble as believers, are we spiritually prepared, always plain and asking God for the best but being prepared for the very difficult times. Many of us feel Christians in our nation will experience. One day they are experiencing as we speak there experiencing them. I haven't given all the illustrations we could give that it we had a bus driver in Minnesota who was praying with his kids who ride the bus.

They fear as I think he lost his job didn't.

I think he was suspended Jan and I'm getting back to what Mike was saying and where the church is concerned, the leaders, but also parents teaching their kids at home. The Bible, the whole truth Genesis to Revelation. All Scripture is inspired by God back to teaching the whole counsel of God and of course that includes prophecy, but the three areas where I think parents and and we can have an impact, education, culture and church education kids are taught in the public school system run by a secular government that they are meaningless random accidents that their lives don't have purpose without the opposite of created in the image of God, and God has a purpose for every life and every life is valuable in culture. There is a war against life war against marriage. We can have an impact on what powers of input the hours we spent entertainment versus in the word of God, music, movies, TV, social media. This all makes a difference in this helps program us or it hurts if I should say I call a lot of it soul pollution. But how can we respond stay the course. Don't fret. Don't be surprised by any of this. We are warned in the Bible, Jesus told his followers that they would be hated because of him and we in America all the things are to get worse. We cannot possibly compare what's happening to us with what our brothers in Christ and hostile nations are going through.

Though our job press on trust in the Lord with all of our heart and be faithful church leadership as a role blazer of the church was established by Jesus Christ with elders to equip the saints for the work of the Holy Spirit not doing a very good job that we we got this syndrome I call ostrich Christianity these days we stick our head in the sand and pretend the world is all sea shells and balloons. Our leaders need to start stepping up equipping our men as leaders in their home and leaders in their community. Equipping the saints to understand deception and to be able to speak the truth in love with dark culture that needs light and salt desperately something else. I think we need to talk about here is part of the solution in that is, I think listeners need to understand the times which I'm grateful for programming like yours stand up for the truth. Hopefully understanding the times radio is helping folks understand the times, but here's what I'm seeing gentlemen talking to Mike LeMay and and Dave here so out of Q 90 in near the Green Bay area in Wisconsin. I'm seeing people disconnect because they getting disgusted with with our times. They're getting discouraged with their times and their deciding you know what I'm going to go into my whatever world that safer that some a whole lot less complicated and there unplugging in the process they're not staying into with what we are talking about is shocked with what we talked about today because they don't understand the time they're not like the sons of his car who understood the times and I understand that Jan if you just look at what's happening out there and if all you're hearing is the noise in the tumbled into the chaos of our culture and our government of politics and that the attacks on Christian.

It can be potentially overwhelming strength, but again it comes back to who and what are we focusing on and then we have a job to do. If we love people. We will tell them the truth. This attitude of logic can revert back to my little church corner my home and let the world be what the world will be work. Would we be today if Paul and Peter and John took that attitude off fierce opposition to the gospel taking their lives in their hands every time they open their mouth that the Holy Spirit gave them the power and the courage and and the righteous standing to be able to speak the truth in love so if it was good enough for Paul and Peter and John needs to be good enough for us today as Christians in America. Amen. Okay. What into each give the name of the latest book you've written and where folks can get folks were not carrying the products right now but Mike then Amy, your book is the depth of Christian thought. The deception of humanism, how to protect yourself certainly plain and what we talked yesterday and probably the best place to get it is that Amazon and Stacy Rozell your latest book. Thank you Jan redefining true and that you get that on Amazon or David your Rosso.com if Dave is here Rosso.com. I know that's a tough name sometimes to write down some of Steve's heroes are not coming tap into them again. Q 90 stand up for the truth radio program.

Gentlemen, I want to thank you for contending for the faith are also contending for the truth here and some of the issues that we talked about in for standing up for believers who are again there's a target on them.

It's just stunning. What I see happening to people of faith conservatives that, but more than that just plain believers. What they're going through today and I had some thoughts, going out of this program. Because the Bible said there was a coming day when evil would be called good, good, would be called evil. Isaiah 520. When black would be white up would be down when the world would drown in political correctness and biblical incorrectness, and according to Romans one when mankind, who rejects God or enjoys mocking the Bible would be turned over again to that reprobate mind and we are there, but I'm always reminded of the words out of Psalm two says they are that the one enthroned in heaven laughs, the Lord scoffs at them. He reviewed extending his anger in the Lord scoffs at the people we've talked about today a terrible day of reckoning awaits them. They're not going to be enjoying their foolishness. Someday someone has said that we seek to be a popular people over a peculiar people we desire to be conformed instead of transformed and I kinda want to close with a quote from Charles Spurgeon.

He says that a time will come when instead of shepherds feeding the sheep. The sheep will have clones entertaining the goats.

That's CH Spurgeon to many years ago and how well prophetically was that kind of statement as we close, I want to thank you for listening. Talk to you next week will you know and you and all, thank you for joining us for today's understanding times radio with Jan Markel across America and across the World Wide Web. We continue to report throwing events from the perspective every weekend. This broadcast comes to no cost to cost us thousands of dollars as we produce and distribute this weekly media overage. Would you consider standing with us with an ever changing world men and women of faith need to keep informed you to be aware of current events is due to the lens of Scripture, week after week.

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