A Conversation with Cameron Jackson

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This is true for a new generation radio and now the man who preached in 50 states and 50 days weaker writer, and advocate for Christian apologetics Dr. Alex McFarland in RC scroll the famous defender of the faith he would frequently say all truth is God's truth. If truth exists, then it's based in the nature and the care of God hi welcome to truth for a new generation radio Alex McFarlane here.

Yeah, I'm so excited because we are visiting with her dear friend, a colleague, you many months back you met Cameron Jackson. We did a show about math and I'm on the road I'm back at rockfish church in central North Carolina right on the doorstep of Fort Bragg, the 82nd airborne and how we thank God for the men and women defending the freedom of the world emanating here from Fort Bragg.

But whenever I come to Fayetteville. I love to meet with Cameron Jackson because for one thing, Cameron. I'm kind of in all of you. Your math professor and you know I didn't get the math gene is that math was pretty hard for me. You know there's three kind of people in the world.

Those that can do math and those that can't, and hen I'm in that latter group, but I want to say welcome back to truth for new generation, and thanks for always being a joy as you and I discussed the things of God and biblical worldview and apologetics. It's always a privilege as you and I've talked about odd math was my struggle in college and I was very intimidated by math but math is I do believe one of the proofs that God exists. This is not a random universe is not just happenstance. You and I touch about this before and I think it bears repeating. Without God, we wouldn't have math and math is not random.

Math is very exact.

As a as a professor, don't you think math points to the fact that there is a designer. In other words, there is a God. Absolutely the logical value of math cannot be dismissed and we talk about the truth of God.

If there is a truth out there. Then it has to stand anything that is not the truth, and we yes I'm alluding to the law of non-contradiction math is exactly that when I say one plus one equals two. Anything different than that cannot be one +2 cannot be the same truth as one plus one equals two and the lawn of non-contradiction and I want to approach it as such because it it teaches us that there is an ultimate truth, and the opposite of the truth will be false and math is simply that the you know anything that is different than what the equation is it is false, Cameron, don't you think we have what what Gary have her mass calls a cumulative case apologetic accumulative case and you look at design you look at DNA look at the Bible you look at fulfill prophecy you look at the empty tomb. You look at the power of the gospel to change lives you look at all of these things together you look at math logic non-contradiction. All of these things taken cumulatively, are these things best understood in terms of God existing and God being knowable and absolutely disc taking the value of matter and I'm purposefully by the way, intentionally using somebody's phrase that we do use in the world of mathematics such as value numbers and and contradictory terms and thinks of Angel because that's how God purposes it. He designed the universe according to the equation that he has.

He presents math, basic math, albeit in the Bhagat's I mentioned that to you that when he says that this person had a child at the age of 65 and he lived to be another 565+500, 565 God purposes it. He intentionally puts that in there not for us to necessarily you know it's the preciseness of it. In other words, logically speaking evidence went when you talk about evidence. You know, again, we sometimes get wrapped up in evidence. But we have to understand that evidence in itself is not going to convince people that I know Prince, a preacher, one of my favorite preacher Charles Spurgeon said he said that it is not. We are not responsible of the gospel. After it is being preached. It is God's responsibility to to use the gospel in that person.

It is our job to presented so we can present evidence. Yes, there's many evidence week we have the truth on our side. I can just buy fossils alone. We we we have the truth.

I can I can name probabilities upon probabilities of no matter how much time there's universe does not cannot possibly exist from something that doesn't exist. We can put keep presenting evidence, but that in itself is not what is going to change her mind is, we have to remove their presupposition. What there worldview was we have to understand our worldview and then give them sound reasoning may give you if you would an illustration in a comical story so this person went up to a doctor and he says Dr. I think I'm dead.

The doctor says what are you talking about that person. Don't talk well, no, no, I seen some scientific studies that now that person can have muscle twitch and maybe this is what's happening to me and said no no no that person don't talk. You are not dead, but the me give you a couple of evidence do you believe that that person bleed and as well know know you can convince me that the that person bleed and yeah yeah so the so the doctor obviously for obvious takes up in any prick, some with it and the man began to bleed.

You see, there your bleeding.

So you're not dead man says you're absolutely right, Dr. dead person do believe on the other point is if there's not enough evidence. What we must do is understand that there worldview needs to be. It's the lenses that they were there.

We have to change their presupposition. We have to intern you answer the question, are not just necessarily the question will you take a break will get to come back with my friend and colleague, Cameron Jackson on this edition of truth for a new generation.

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Well brother Cameron Jackson. I welcome you back to the program. I don't ask your question.

I do think this has apologetics value, but I'm going to throw something out of left field that you hear is this question what is math what is math mathematics is the study of the logical order in forms of numbers to form a logical conclusion that all things has a value okay. Let's unpack this just a little bit because one of the things that's fascinated me as an I'm not. I'm not especially strong in math, English and history, philosophy, those were my areas of study. But I became very intrigued with math when I realize that throughout history.

Different cultures independently of each other, discovered pure mathematics and math operates the same for the Arabs, the Asians, the Greeks that the Europeans east and west and and I begin to realize okay people independently of each other, discovered math by the Middle Ages when our people were traveling. It was kind of this moment in the history of math the people realize math is this this thing. It's other. It wasn't really invented but discovered its object is not subjective and and I begin to be convinced that the existence of math points to the reality of God and God is a God of water so that being said talk to me about the relationship between math and God in everything that we do as we recognize the sovereignty of God. We we must understand that the mind of God not only as is logically sound. It follows one another.

If it's the truth. Even God himself is says I know I work within the laws that I've given you. I have my plans is for you to prosper. My plan is for you.

You I am. I've created this therefore I know how this thing called your walk with me will flourish. At the end. Bottom line is it his plan is is forever and this is one of those scriptures that even my daughter's one who gave it to me. You know the plans of the Lord stand firm forever. We say that, but do we really recognize that that is a blueprint that is a a what I just described as a mathematical equation of value that he has really stating within Scripture to say that my plan stand firm.

I have no since the beginning from even before the fall of man. He has a plan.

His plan is for us to prosper.

His plan is to win heat his plan even in the proto-evangelion acts Genesis 315.

This plan is that the enemy will be defeated and so as we as we talk about math as we talk about you note each of the value even within our lives. We must understand the logical plan of God. The blueprint is there.

We simply have to follow his will and follow his will, within each of our lives because we are a small equation within this big euro and I want to throw quadratic formula in their within this big equation we call the plan of God that were just a small value within and if you understand your the value of that one segment can alter the whole equation we are in that mix. So understand that them within the context of math I'm I'm more of a probability guy. What got me really staring in God's plan as it relates to how I think is that you note the probability of things are not occurring, the way God has said is far greater. And I went up when out borrow Frank Turek when he says and I don't have enough faith to believe in all this other stuff because what we believe is truthful and logical. Therefore, all this other stuff you there's no value. There is no probability statistical value that I can adopt just looking at the order of things. Our body is made up of billions and billions of cells and for us to just simply form out of random chance it's impossible is impossible. You know even yesterday I was watching animal planet and they were talking about zoos that breed animals in captivity and there was a certain species of gecko that was about to go extinct. And so it was very important. They said that the DNA makes this kind of gecko, so we want to raise some of these in captivity DNA has to be preserved because it's the blueprint for this type of species will Prof. when I hear words like blueprint and plan and schematic and information and design is not random. Absolutely, we gotta take a brief break stating a final thought with our friend Cameron Jackson on this math addition of truth for new generation of the way he wanted to raise your hand during the sermon will here is your chance by Alex McFarland hear from the nationalists indicated radio program exploring for more than 10 years, Michael Harper and I have taught Scripture and answered hundreds of vital questions. We've compiled a brand-new book of the top 100 Bible questions from listeners of all ages from questions about supposing Bible contradictions to apologetics facts that prove the truth of Scripture. This new book features practical content that will make the Bible come alive for you. Can we really be sure that God exists there contradictions in the Bible book that will help me understand the Bible better. There's so much good content in this book.

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You're listening to the truth for a new generation radio walkabout to treat for new generation. This is just fascinating and and you are one human being. The DNA that is the blueprint for you. There is our I've ever read in different sites with roughly 100 trillion copies of your DNA and you're the only you in the world.

My wife and their 7 1/2 billion other humans 50, 60 billion humans that have ever lived. We haven't even talked about plant life or animal life, also comprised of DNA like my dear friend of 30 years, Frank Turek says I don't have enough faith to believe this could've come about, just by accident, do it. It's just mathematically impossible.

The probability is so great I don't have enough lifetime to be able to do something like that, much less to believe that there was randomness could occur.

The same goes with the universe.

You know what were looking at. You know that the Lord says that he knew me, even before I was forming my mother's womb as he states in Jeremiah if he if he intentionally did that if he intentionally purposes. He has a blueprint, we thought you talked about the blueprint that is God's plan. But not only these infinitely powerful in order to even direct that plan, but do you know what the probability of him just laying out that plan and then matching it with his overall plan that he will you know that the enemy will be defeated and we are to be part of it and I am simply in that one portion and one bracket.

If we understand pen – you know, the bracket can has to be solved first. So we have to individually be solved in order to fit in God's own blueprint in a Psalm 19 says the heavens and earth declare the glory of God and Psalm 19 talks about the creation, pointing to a creator, but also the law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul so creation had to have a creator, the word of God tells us how we can know that creator all of that to say this and and I do believe the orderliness of math. The objective nature of math point struck creator you and I've talked about this final thought Cameron.

What you say to the person out there who is may be an educated person.

I believe in a Prof. This is why just I just don't have faith into this thing of trusting in Jesus following God must become a person of science, empiricism.

If I can't touch it, see it, quantify it in a faith is just a place I don't go, what you say to the person who needs the Lord but but feels like if they exercise faith.

It's like an intellectual compromise somehow and we all have questions that I understand that as we ask the questions that we asked were not simply warning the answer, but were wanting the answer to be within us, to be applied within us so all you thinkers out there know God has the answer, however, what he wants is to go underneath. He wants a transformation he wants to answer the question in order to transform you. So if you have the questions yes we can, we can deal with the surface question. But God is seeking you.

He doesn't want anything else but your heart he wants to love you. He wants to know that it's his comforting spirit and I will and in one Prof. point this out one time as he was arguing about you know proof and evidence of within the context apologetics. He just he just challenges he all of us to do this.

What I am presenting you is a life-changing experience with the with the creator of the universe. What are you offering me if you just offer me answers nail without the transformation. You show me your proof. How many lives your questions are your answer have solved where I can show you that every question and answer within the context of my creator will change lives. So in other words, what we're doing here know the questions that we do answer is a life transforming. It is were answering the question or were answering what is inside of your heart that needs to be changed. That's beautiful because so as we talked about, you know, science might tell us at what temperature that wooden door would combust. Science could tell us that the tensile strength of this cable how much weight before that cable would snap. Science can't tell us why I should love my neighbor.

Science can't tell us in output.

This what I was once at a church picnic when I was a little boy and it was at a lake up near Greensboro, North Carolina. Like Higgins is still there but there was a big commotion down on the spear a child's true story the child had fallen in the water and there was a lady named Rebecca Russell and she jumped in and save this drowning child and I can see this is little boy she put them up on the pier and then she climbed out but what a lot of people didn't remember was she was terrified of water herself and after it was over she was on the pier, soaking wet and it began to dawn on her and she was just like mortified, but she forgot herself and jumped into say that drowning child which of course was right thing to do. Science can't tell us why somebody with a fear of water would jump at me. Darwin, survival of the fittest was that well let's child drown. Obviously a listed species to a fallen in the water but in a moral universe. You do the benevolent thing you jump in to save the drowning child with no thought for yourself.

I guess what I'm saying is value science can tell us how much weight is still being can hold, but it can't tell us the value of the life being held on that beam can know it cannot is them what drives as to become better than ourselves and our there is no mathematical equation for that. But there is a logical conclusion that we can come when Jesus has transform us when when God has your heart he knows he has everything else in your life brother. We gotta pull away. It is always a privilege.

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