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REShow: Chris Mannix - Hour 1

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May 31, 2022 3:09 pm

Rich recaps the Boston Celtics knocking off the Miami Heat to Rich the NBA Finals against the Golden State Warriors and weighs in on Jimmy Butler’s controversial 3-point try at the end of the game, then reacts to the Lakers hiring Milwaukee Bucks assistant Darvin Hamm to be their next head coach. 

Sports Illustrated’s Chris Mannix tells Rich how the Celtics turned their “awful” season around to the NBA Finals, explains why Boston matches up well against Steph Curry and the Warriors, says the Lakers hire of Darvin Ham was “a total home run,’ and breaks down the situations involving James Harden and the 76ers, Kyrie Irving and Ben Simmons with the Brooklyn Nets, and Dame Lillard’s future with the Portland Trail Blazers. 

Rich weighs in on the “sad” situation of Antonio Brown that saw the talented WR go from a Hall of Fame track to seeing his career derailed by a series of head-scratching on and off-field events.

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See you Mike, good to see you, TJ Jefferson, like the candle over there. It's always a pleasure to be seen and heard this low-energy situation was going on. He exhausted a lot of energy and his team on the final remarks all flown out but I'm glad that you're here to see you and congratulations to you Christopher and the rest of the Boston Celtics that's out there.

See, I know I am just as tough to even feel joy. I was just exhausted and relieved. Well, I mean, also New England sports fan so it's very tough to feel joy.

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What makesall matters all that that this injured since 95 happy I am like in the Celtics and the wars and and we we pour one out for Miami Heat fans. Despite Jimmy Butler's best efforts.

In games six and seven.

One of the greatest games six and seven and individuals ever posted on we might learn one leg right and how incredible he was in game six to force a game seven were basically no having fun that Lebron James is not walking through that door for game number six and met Jimmy Butler walked in the door and played the role of Lebron James. Damn you're coming up with a 50 piece in Boston force a game seven and game seven in which the Celtics were dominant until the heat popped a run on him to make it a three-point game only to have the Celtics take control of game seven, only to have the heat take control back and actually have the ball and Jimmy Butler's hands down to mere seconds to go. Forcing it one shipped by chip possession by possession to make it up for possession game in a three possession game in a two possession game and finally was a one possession game and the Celtics had the ball and put it in the basket and now how to transition opportunity with Jimmy Butler leaving it, and he pulled up for three for the yellow shot. The shot benefited gone through the net, and again that this is the stuff we talk about you know the Buckner player in the and in the Bartman and the miracle on ice is that we we assume like that would've been the end of it, but it wouldn't of been the end of it. There's sort of a time left on the clock like there was no time left.

Everyone's like, will be talking about the shot for 50 years and was the end of the Celtics got the ball back in school they were going to get the ball back 17 secular when they had a timeout mirrors the heat out of timeouts and looked like they were out of chances until they had a chance. And here comes Jimmy Butler and were showing a shot of it right here. I mean, our friends backing up and Butler could've gone right by him forward and one got into the line.

Instead he pulls up for three with 17 1/2 to go and from my position on the couch and somebody wanted you know my son to be happy. But for you and everyone else is a Celtics fan to be miserable. Chris Artis, and I honestly thought what you doing I thought it in real time. This is not as snow when he pulled up in the is eyesight looking it looked like he he pulled up and didn't have his legs under him and I know we've been making everything.

I just saw what he went on up and then when it wound up shortages looked like he didn't have his feet completely under him, which is totally understandable with him.

As I said maybe playing on one leg and every played every second of game seven. As valiant an effort as diehard and effort as remarkable an effort for you heat fans. I wish to take the basket no matter what, even if he had what he got. If you have excellent online getting every call that entire game. I have no problem with Butler pulling up for that because Jimmy Bullock. He said he played all 48 and Samsung 46 minutes and made every six and they're not there without Jimmy Butler settled and also I think one thing you didn't mention is all those minutes that might've been Jimmy gone. I don't have the time for overtime like a lot five more minutes.

I don't have five more minutes in, but I don't think anyone can look that's name any team super start encouraging the people up and take the shot. That's when you go okay to discredit his oath. This person, but on the heat fans. I don't know how they feel. This is a basketball fan, I was like okay like loading fans on the side because half of them left the arena.

Well, why mean that game was that I game is almost over everyone's truce made that three to make it one possession game.

I audibly you know I I I screamed and got off the couch, you know, that's when it became really real. The rest of the time zone is a nice, nice try but you really made before you make it that two point game in the Celtics didn't score down the on the other end. That's why Carmella Martin really a satellite open shot real fat real real smart took like your last four or five shots like Tatum is getting doubled and he made the smart pass to the open man in the open-ended to make the shot by feel like that would've been the story had Celtics not one that was likewise marked lower typing yes for five sites in the game, Celtics, was talking to one of the worst to the been a different, narrow homelands ratings of all time. A man up 13 with three minutes to go away.

I do you not close that out, but it happened and inoculations Al Morford is no longer the oldest or the most tenure player in the history of the NBA did not make the finals.

That person is now whoever's the oldest person on the next and and the warriors and Celtics are to be a great matchup.

I can't wait for West is finally that's my question. I thought the man's career was over, we play for the Sixers and now look at what clicky go five is terrific. She's you looks terrific and know will be talking about this with Chris Mannix of the Sports Illustrated and Tom Tolbert who calls the action locally for the warriors and has a radio presence up there in the Bay Area will be joining us as the first two guests of our program today and then there's this story, you may have missed. You may have missed this story because it it happened on late Friday of Memorial Day weekend and any time anything comes out late Friday on a Memorial Day weekend. It's done because sports team doesn't want people to know about or sports leagues doesn't want people about that's what Mike Florio Pro football talk starts this this this peacock to loser every single day and NBC Sports on Peacock.

He kept on saying hey if there's going to be any news about the league and the Sean Watson it's going to come out front late Friday. Even on this day and age, no social media, twitter, and everything else deceiving on your phones. It's very difficult effort is very difficult for people to miss anything but you know we all go on with our lives. At best we can, so this was announced on Friday and that this is the Lakers have a new head coach and this is a franchise that makes announcements that make everything day. Everything is big with the steam, but for some reason on Friday. The Welch bomb comes out and know the Lakers hire new head coach's name is Darvin Hamm. Now fans of the NBA.

Certainly, from back in the day recognize the name.

Certainly fans of the Detroit Pistons recognize that name you want to championship as a player with those Detroit Pistons and so Darvin Hamm is now the head coach of the Lakers.

He spent nine years with Mike Boudin Holzer, the current head coach of the Milwaukee Bucks.

The as for 10 more days or two more weeks defending champion Milwaukee Bucks that the rain will come to an end either in Boston or or Golden State and he came with Boudin Holzer from Atlanta to Milwaukee want to championship their and you couldn't renal make a case that the Lakers are are spinning their wheels because this is not a name and the Lakers are a name French and you could make this case that he is somebody that took the job because others are interested.

Where's the nurse is not walking through that door.Rivers Quinn Snyder somebody else's coaches under contract understand that I walking through the door so why Darvin Hamm now. On the flipside of it. All you have to do about law is not a name head coaching. This is not gonna work out and you housing an impossibly working certainly when Lebron James is their best player in their healthiest player and he's pushing 40, and and Westbrook is Westbrook and this not a work a Darvin Hamm you really gotta figure this thing out room. Well, he comes highly recommended from Llanes himself.

Yachts himself loves the guy yachts himself was talking about how he takes no BS and this is to be a terrific congratulations Lebron James tweeting out. I believe from France where he went to the Liverpool real Madrid champions league final and so damn excited congrats and welcome coach D him hashtag lecture Lebron likes and then I guess here's another aspect of it. On the positive side of things is a take a look at the Celtics and coach anybody ever herein. Court heard of email Atoka who thought that guy was in over his head on January 1 of this year. Our people, people look who's there now. I've hundred, look who's there now no longer known as Mr. Neil long right that time though some of her videos went viral, celebrating the Celtics Eastern conference championship just so you know, just take a look at people saying that Joe Torre when he got Hardee's or try to ease a retread with jealousy and then of course he went on an incredible stretch.

The one thing that I'm hearing about reading about that gives me some positive thoughts about this for you Laker fans out there is, it appears Darvin Hamm got a four year deal one more than Frank Vogel got okay and apparently he got according to Mark Stein on his sub stack great Mark Stein.

He got assurances that Kurt Rambis is not allowed to be in any planning meetings.

Oh yes, so one of the ram by got bought out it interesting that that's very interesting in I told you conversation I had this week in Ritz and that is that what I wanted to talk about. That was very interesting event that there is apparently some meddling that took place. You don't say. According to Mark Stein buzz in the coaching circles over the weekend. Hamm has been promised the autonomy to pickets coaching staff and is said to have received assurances that Lakers Senior advisor Kurt Rambis will not be a regular presence in coaching meetings like he was with Vogel, so he's going to get to do it his way with his guys, his people and to me that's an indication of the Lakers understanding what may have not worked with Vogel and handing it over and or their admitting their kind of over a barrel roster wise franchise wise and here's a guy that they like and they are going to give the opportunity to now that what is his plan for Westbrook is Westbrook's not going anywhere I don't think based on his contract is gonna be there for one year opt in and and what you can do at ACE Kenny Kenny have a sance with whatever injury ghost hangs over Anthony Davis. That's the plan for one year. But how did Hamm get to this gig and what challenges does he face Chris Maddox will have that and also the voice. One of the voices of the warriors Tom Tober and then in studio our number three longtime friend now from Sports Illustrated longtime executive in the NFL Andrew Paretsky to be here.

Longtime front office exacting Biologist.

The Rams at an interesting choice. Apparently Erin Donna was waiting for more cash to be on the table even though we told our friend Brandon Marshall on the IM athlete contest is not about money.

So there's that all yes and one player slapped another over fantasy football in major league baseball that happened over the weekend all God, we just into the story or the way into the Jock Peterson as Chris rock and Tommy Pham is Will Smith at a batting practice that Took Pl. in Cincinnati just to clarify you sit a baseball player slapped another baseball player over fantasy football in the NFL correct NFL fencing make that happen, and I cannot wait to just dive into it. It's an overreaction Monday even though it's on a Tuesday so that means there's some extra stuff from over the weekend. It Celtics and Warriors people talk about that and the Darvin Hamm hiring here in Los Angeles by the Lakers on a Friday of Memorial Day weekend throws up in the general real quick, who's on the Lakers longer.

Darvin Hammer, Lebron James, I know. Maybe they go out together like the movies like Thelma and Louise going over the cliff held hands wherever a brownie starts playing basketball.

I don't know we'll see go for that rich Isaac show 844204 which number down here on the Tuesday final day of May, were back with Chris Maddox right here on the rich lozenge back here on the rich Isaac show one big happy family Dresher radio and Peacock and Sirius XM our friend from Sports Illustrated senior writer who covers the Celtics as well for NBC Sports Boston Chris Maddox on the Mercedes-Benz vans phone line. Now that the Celtics have made yet another NBA finals in this one. Perhaps most improbable of all, back here in the rich Isaac show how you doing Chris Maddox what happened Rick.

Well I mean I a remarkable run right by the Celtics. How did this kind of this happen this happen best you can tell while listening. I looked it was kind of a four month five month evolution mean I was part of the local broadcast in November and December where they were just awful. Like there's no two ways about it, and I distinctly recall every night kind of saying the same thing after a game where it they don't play with passion they don't play with focus, they look disorganized. They don't seem to like each other all that much. I thought rock bottom for the team. What late December loss in Minnesota where they played Timberwolves, who without big their top four guys and they still lost to basically a minor-league version of that team that were here now talking about the Celtics in the finals is one of the most improbable turnarounds I can remember Anita if you want to boil down to what it you what what it is that Gotham here it be your email Atoka even during the dark days was teaching them a branded defense that they were used.

We switch everything I put defense that was predicated on the skill set of Marcus Mark and his ability to be a defender in the weight that previous Celtic point guard letter. Isaiah Thomas Tyree, Irving Campbell Walker couldn't be. They stuck with that they finally got it, and from early January to now they have been the best effective team in the NBA by a country mile. And when you can play that type of defense.

Everything else is kinda just great because you can beat a lot of team by being a great effect lining and the need to go even further back a few months just as you know, you jokers hiring and Brad Stevens being kicked upstairs.

We were wondering what the hell was that all about, and and so is this what they had envisioned or I mean to supporting the plan member to come in with this defense. In turn Marcus Martin to defensive player of the year and that will open things up on the other end for Brown Tatum and everyone else like that. Is this truly the manifestation of the vision when they made that surprising maneuver would Stevens and and you jokers way. I don't think they could have accurately predicted how well Marcus Mark would adapt to the point guard position. Look there, with interest within Dr. Lazo ball when he was a free-agent in July they all just got an overwhelming offer from Chicago. It never advanced path box stage but there was definitely a question about whether Smart could do it yet been an elite defensive player for years. Most of his career, but you'd never been a primary playmaker, but nobody really knew if he was going to be able to do that, he turned out to be great.

You had one of his finest season and adapted incredibly well. The public opposition, but you might regret the eye was critical of his decision to move to the front office.

More critical really of the Celtic decision to allow it. I got a tremendous amount of respect for Brad Stevens, the coach I thought like the last couple of years being so so that he was still a cop by cockpit. In whatever you want to call it coach in the NBA fondled me why Celtics would allow that coach to lead to take a role yet never done before, but there's no two ways about it. Rich the Celtics wouldn't be here if Brad Stevens what the GM Danny Ainge does not make the trade that brought out corporate. The Boston with Oklahoma City UW because Danny Ainge does not give up and unprotected first-round pick the thunder that he just doesn't do it. That's not a thing Danny Ainge got credit for the main entire roster was created largely by him most.

The top guys were brought in because of deals for draft picks that he made but Danny Ainge doesn't make the deal that brought Derek like the Boston trade deadline because you had to give up a first round pick in a future swap right Danny. The computer feels like that Brad has a different approach looks at draft capital differently and he made those two deals where without them, the Celtics would be getting the water anywhere what they have been all season without out corporate where fate would have been in the playoffs without applecart where we could have been without Derek White turned it on, really after just the second or third game in the first round and became a huge part of what the team did Brad Stevens is responsible for the success of the team at anyone at organization not immediate doesn't bow for NBA executive the year, but he would have my vote for executive and then on top of the Chris Mannix do you know that the teenagers vanquished Pat Riley being at the top of that flowchart is his phrase that he always sticks his knees. This is teams. Successful teams need to invoice the avoid the disease of more right when will obviously from you in a championship you know but everyone wants more order successful.

Everyone wants more and and not focusing on on the team and in that respect how to how does Tatum and Brown avoid the disease of more because sometimes Tatum's the Batman and and browns. The Robin and then they switch roles and it sometimes possession by possession how how do they avoid that. How does that work that well. I think I made the commitment to winning that bulky guide have an what they're not wallet in this regard kind of it but a joke in recent years, within members of the organization you get into like late December and January beat you guys. You kind of see a lot of your turn my turn stop at both the guys try to get on the autarchy. There's definitely a competitiveness for individual accolade that exist within these two guys, but they're both extremely comfortable in their own skin there both extremely comfortable with their roles and more credit. Jaelyn Brown, who wanted to proclaim could probably be Tatum type enough to be the score that Tatum is and will be around. On lesser teams could certainly be the output, but given Brown understand what his job is with anything.

He's more of a ball handler getting shot all postseason. He had rarely if you had again reshot less than 15 times in one, but we understand you playmaker a defender and when he fell between the bucket more often than not, the bulk to find its way to Jason Statham. Tatum can and Jaelyn Brown plywood that you have a*second*that except that it makes everything easier for everybody else to snatch your on the rich doesn't show NBC Sports Boston also seen a writer from Sports Illustrated right here on the program. Now this warriors and Celtics break down the matchup for me what what is the. The advantages, disadvantages of this series. Best you can tell I wonder if we look back in a couple weeks and think about what could have been closed out Miami and pick because there banged up Robert Williams is just dragging that leg up and down the floor. To his credit, when the guy came back from significant knee surgery can lie, not that not enough and I give him a lot of credit for doing what you doing up there.

Marcus Mark know a little bit after game seven where like the entire left side of his body aching whether ankle squad because the game early in the playoffs. I mean he's in top shape and you know, I know internally go they wish they had those two extra days in between these comics while denting the final beginning because they could use Saturday Sunday rest and not fly back to Boston late at night and flight go out today soap so that the health Paramount I think. But all things are equal Celtics matchup incredibly well with with Golden State back that game in March and only one game but that was when the ducks were peeking the defect was clicking. Tatum and Brown were playing well they just destroyed Golden State out attempt to cultivate beat him up and the warriors there often try to create mismatches with all the movement and all the screen. There are no mismatches with the Celtic guys. They play all defend on some level you don't, 125 just it's remarkable teams Many of the thing coaches about that that you are aspirational you want your team could be built effectively.

The way the Celtics are block to give Golden State a lot of problems. Golden State defect is better than people think and they'll illiterate Wiggins or Greenberg perimeter player problem. The other variable in all this that can't be accounted for. Right away, is the fact that nobody on the Celtics roster has been to a final and seems like everybody on that will here's roster has been to at least one the key guys being your three or four and we saw 10 years ago with Oklahoma City for that matter underwent the final they might've been the better team with Durrant, Westbrook, Harden all up to block out but they were steamrolled in part because they were quite ready for that moment on. The early on if the Celtics are ready for that moment.

Delete games wanted to know that there to be hugely important from a segment called direct Hispanics here on the rich doesn't show okay so where did the decision to hire Darvin Hamm come from from the Lakers.

What's the timeline what's the decision process best you can tell from the decision yet. Lakers sitting out for a while waiting to see some of the more experienced coaches were going to shake loose. I don't know what that meant they were targeting Doc Rivers or Quint Snyder but they were certainly willing to wait to see how it all played out with those two coaches. Doc of course you establish guy great relationship with Lebron Quint Snyder has a relationship with the Lakers front office time coaching in South Bay with the G leaking there so there would that kind of float the profit down to what became clear that both you guys weren't going anywhere doesn't seem like they're going anywhere right now you know they turned their attention to some of the different names record Darvin Hamm has been at the top of many coaching list when it comes to the next higher for a long time now. He's the way I email you Coca-Cola right like he's a former Kino role players who did have a splashy career but certainly had a better-than-expected one learned under want a better coach in the NBA, and you don't get case with pop in hi aunt Kate Mike who knows or paid to do. And now you added at that point were you ready for the opportunity. I think the Lakers made unbelievable higher and I think he is had the potential to be a coach not only for the team. In the short term we are trying to win a championship. Lebron Beatty over the next few years, but if you go into a rebuild document can be that Geico IQ can be that coach that developed young players try to get you back to that level so we can be critical and I have been critical of a lot of things Lakers of done the last couple of years. The Westbrook trade scapegoating Frank Vogel but Darvin Hamm as a coach is a total homerun that was the right guy for them to hide well and it see you know her colleague Mark Stein saying that he got assurances that he gets to choose his staff and that a regular presence in his any coaches meetings will not be current Rambus what you're reporting on all that stuff. I don't know. I do know that but I know that the Lakers with Frank Vogel effectively assembled and that did not fit well early on with Frank Vogel he took the job and he was successful at the job and J think it turned out to be a terrific coach but that was a front office decision.

The presence of current Rambus continues to be bizarre. I don't I don't understand it.

I don't understand how much Kathy has within that organization. I understand why, under any circumstances he would be sitting in on a coaches meeting so if that's the case that the reason I believe it is marked out there saying it it's the right decision because you can't have an X coach with the ear of ownership sitting in on your coaching meetings because it will feel like there's a fly in your mitt just will. So I think that the right decision to let Darvin Hamm assembled his own staff and let the coach coach without having any influence from anyone anywhere else into Sam's hiring give you any sense any breadcrumbs as to how the roster is going to be massaged with what's with the steam and in seeming difficulty. It is to figure it out with the contracts of Westbrook and the injury history of Davis in the advancing age. Despite his incredible play of Lebron James and the decision to be made on that what what what is the hiring tell you on the contract front tell me much because I like the Lakers are willing to attach a graphic to recollect you will be a Laker start receipt kind of equivalent that would have discussed Westbrook trade with the Lakers when I'm told, have been clear about that. They're not just going to trade other distressed contract back.

They want draft capital in return. So you unless something changes things. Craig, you think it happened because you clean your rate reached, shake the priority after the draft, the free agency, but unless something changes, Westbrook going to be there now.

The rest of the roster if he could look completely different. I think Lakers would have to roster is going to be a free agent. Now they find all the minimum guide last year going out to be a frigid and I would expect Rob Polanco to try to look for more modern players mean that they have a lot of great length last year and have a lot of perimeter shooting last year. They need that you don't you look at the teams playing in the finals.

What do they have defensive versatility and shooting like that's what you need if you Lakers it doesn't grow on trees.

Having your Trouble finding the guys but I expect the lake to go out and look for those types of players and just hope that something happens with Russell Westbrook and Darvin Hammond chemistry.

You know whatever that that make it work. I'm not counting on it but I don't think Lakers have any viable alternative. Couple minutes. I left you Chris Mannix what was Gen. Morrison can today and the front office of Philadelphia 76ers was he second today decent I would delete still got consumed by how to get hard and under readable contract that doesn't kill the pictures of it got to be frustrating for Maury for Philadelphia to see that even in weighted but now he's facing a decision that will mean able to find the pictures during their how we handle ardent board and the kind of contract that gives him I will be everything he can find a way to get hard on board with a crisp all type of contract that guarantees him a little bit more money to protect them on the backend. Eli done his job feel ill put the fix is in position to succeed during our narrow and if it happened and they want automated continue to build around and beat, but empty 28 years old the next four years are everything.

How did contract with Harden shakes out.

I don't mean to be hyperbolic, but it actually will determine whether indeed win the championship in Philadelphia already.Sean Marks which is why do I do like I've got a great phone number. I don't know if there what the communication could like between Shawna Kevin and you can a comparable situation with Tyree. I thought his post season comic book Tyree were incredibly telling Sean has been nothing but supportive. Tyree throughout this topic but in think you guys are available for the pretty strong message Tyree about what kind of stand that the natural take on his next contract.

The problem they have the same problem that Philadelphia you like Tyree walk.

You can't just go sign a Tyree like player and you can't wait the last good years of having to read just counting on Ben Simmons to be a start. You can't do it so i.e. between a rock and a hard place as well get Tyree back. We don't get on board with playing full time and you gotta get them at a reasonable number. Simmons is is is is the first ever instance of back surgery and injury that supposedly was also mentally caused you know II don't what what a conundrum about it with him. It is backward clearly a problem mean you don't voluntarily have back surgery isolated it with something but the mental part of it. I just find it bizarre that the net were young, they work. Think you can play what they were pushing back to art all the reporting that he was in like how we went from being potentially available for game for two having back surgery is it while it while commuting. I really need kind of a tick-tock on its the moment Ben Simmons was traded to Brooklyn where we are right now like back hurt when he got there, given that no one was hurt but know he was likely headed toward back surgery me what I got. Desperate to make a move off of James Harden to do with the fact that you know there's a lot of unknowns that I can't ever talk people internally here a lot of different answers to those questions. I don't know what the truth is, when it comes the help of Ben Simmons but there count on him to like you got a come back and gotta be something close to the Ben Simmons of old back and got a chance in this topic. The Celtics are going anywhere. The box are going where the heat get a reload of the knock Brooklyn next year. I left there at full strength and even then I will pay you to come to little so as I let you go Chris Mannix. Once the confetti drops and you, the Celtics of the warriors were still the Larry will be mean, I kinda just had the nets and Sixers and Lakers with you. Is there a story, an off-season story that I'm missing that your that you're focused on your targeting a big broad stroke. There constantly watching to see what happened with Danny Lillard up in Portland. Joe Cronin does he give Lillard a contract extension this summer that would be almost Harden asked where we currently load a whole lot of money when he did, late 30s.

He's been the faith of that franchise. The greatest player in franchise history at the yard. Great year left in them, but they are at a crossroads as well. I mean, do they finally look that type of deal and in a way except that making the playoffs and maybe when you first rent. Is your ceiling or two people and start to look around to potential deals that might bring back the credit draft capital that it puts off in the position may remember the picture here right now because they traded away Kevin Garnet and Paul Pierce and got the pics that eventually led Jake data Magellan ground. It took a long time 10 years, but they got there and on. The Portland hatchback kind of mindset are appalled that kind of mindset with Chris, thanks for the call man love our chats and love your reporting just the conversations we have really appreciate it. Thank you. You look like all that's Chris Mannix at SI Chris Mannix right here in the recharge chart followership to that seen in Star Wars New Hope. The first one episode four episode four where the storm troopers stop Obi-Wan and the droids and Luke tells the storm troopers. These are not the droids you're looking for let us can you let us go and impose them on track right on the mind and in hindsight because again we just heard Chris Mannix say how without that Garnet and Pierce trade. They don't have the pics to take Tatum and Ann Brown but what mind trick did any ancient make to have the Sixers take the first pick from, take faults, and then carefully designed trick and then monitoring the path there magic in the Lakers say it's Alonzo Boller or Bost.

You have no Tatum drop to three to have the first overall pick and say I know what I want but I want to get more pics and go down the three and get the guy who could be the MVP of the upcoming NBA finals. Be careful.

I'm sorry to be careful how this is like.

I mean, these are not is not the draft choices you're looking for. It's literally nonviolence hindsight I know it's total hindsight man.

It was it was at the time Scott is obvious. Was it like an obvious visiting Chris like always gets mad when I say this, the Sixers had the third pic.

Tatum was a perfect recent stated through into the movement faults. But what Chris Mannix enriched about this being important for the Sixers. Very true.

The Sixers have a history of horrible, horrible, front office decisions like as he was talking not to start making a list here of like horrible trades players that we gave up like Tatum Mikell bridges like Albee said he didn't have Tatum, but we are in position to draft. I don't know if I trust this team to do the right thing.

Man, I don't really sit down was a different exec. I hope Rich I hope so because the ballista laundry list of horrible horrible decisions at this franchise made since 1985.

It's it's unbelievable. Let me help you. That's not the list you're looking for now and help and I told Chris like Tatum's rookie year and like that's a mistake that's going to hunt Sixers fans the next 15 years and it's a lot I think Angel is still taken Tatum. First of I still think you were taken first and probably only but the Sixers never should given the chance given the chance to take more motel for just a guy wants anyone in there going to the finals and if they win, most likely, he's the one is good when MPP let's take a break, make 44204 Rich number to dial Antonio Brown's in the news to don't go anywhere back with more back here in the Rich Eisen show 844204 Rich number dial another story that you may have missed over the weekend, although I did it made it my my twitter feed is Antonio Brown was on a broadcast for fan control football and seems like he is admitting he's not going be playing football this fall and hinted that his career may be over. This is what Antonio Brown is still important to the game but you can't play forever grateful that I got everything in the game we play next season. I don't play yourself looking immediately so that means don't play yourself looking to me to play one is plane himself and all of this last. This is so sad. I gotta tell you how sad this is.

It is type I saw that soundbite and I just thought this is the saddest. I remember interviewing Antonio Brown again on a Thursday night football. He bawled out. I believe it was against the Browns. Years ago may have been your one potential year two for him that the memory fades because it's been 12 years since the kid came off the campus of central Michigan where he had to go to get a shot from South Florida and this is a time when Mike will win Mike Wallace member him he wanted his money and still is like now Miami entertainment have instead because he was a kid who was not only terrific but reliable and wanted to win and wanted to work his ass off to win and it was obvious to everyone 12 seasons. He's played and that first night in Pittsburgh were whole thing really, that's the stuff to put you in the Hall of Fame. You do it for the Pittsburgh Steelers as well seven 1000 yard seasons and 12 years is nine years in Pittsburgh are some of the best nine years fresh out of the box of any receiver ever on track to be and often, but this conversation don't play yourself to see me places like what were you talking about I want to see and play just because he's incredible, but none of the other stuff, like the helmet and the feet in in Vegas and then the stuff with the patriots and you know finally getting shot honey. All you need to know is he playing with Tom Brady. More and took his uniform off the shirt was skipped out New Jersey against the Jets with his team meeting in the worst way. And that's the way he exits the stage. It couldn't be sadder could not be more sad when I hear that mother sit here and say what the hell is he think he is, because I don't know what's going on. This could be this guy could have been in Canton and you're sitting there, he still should be in Canton" bowl is not intent yet Tori hopes not in Canton yet toward deserves to get a spot in front of him. I don't think he's ever going to get a shot in Canton and that is absolutely as sad as it comes to an hour one and somebody please send this to him because he blocked me on Twitter long time ago when I started wondering what is his malfunction when he got mean Facebook live his way out of Mike Tomlin's care. Got to Vegas where Gruden wanted him in the worst way and was ready to happen and look past everything over and over again until he couldn't, and then the guy selling member.

He celebrated his release. That was the person that was the first shirtless time we ever saw him in a viral manner and he could've been happier.

He wound up with the patriots and I'm sitting here thinking some consequences learned of his actions.

He winds up he winds up with Brady in in the gold standard franchise and then we learn about what was going on with them off the field and then they got rid of him and he criticizes Bob Kraft and then Brady gives them another shot. They win the Super Bowl together and he winds up criticizing Brady going out the door and now he's saying don't play yourself to see me play I wanted.

I plan myself. I want to see him play. I want to see them play but not with everything else going and that might just be another instance of him not accepting his role in everything. Don't play yourself what they forgot to mention rich before you trade to Oakland to the Raiders rather he was supposed to get treated to Buffalo before they sign digs and he nixed that so he could of been a part of the Josh Allen Buffalo.

Today, luckily.yeah Nagarjuna got digs instead. But he was originally that's what else is still initially trying to send them re-upped and stayed in their luckily But to give you an indication and still does make will another team give Michelle I mean why I say again, I saw that video this weekend and my first thought was that is so sad that I could be in the Hall of Fame could have been in the Hall of Fame out the keys ever. The he's connected by a ticket to get in with numbers rises that should be it. I get it, but since I said what, why, why invite him.

Why invite him. That's got to be the question for the real story behind some of wrestling's biggest moments. It's something to wrestle with Bruce Prichard and Conrad Thompson to all Tom Hogan opponents monster Ms. Natalie in a conversation where is Andre free mouse and Andre was number one is not even going back before you know Holcombe was a baby face Holt and Andres were able to go in headline for the New Orleans Superdome at Shea Stadium in Japan wherever they went.

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