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REShow: Robert Saleh/Darren Waller - Hour 2

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June 20, 2022 4:51 pm

REShow: Robert Saleh/Darren Waller - Hour 2

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June 20, 2022 4:51 pm

Jets Head Coach Robert Saleh tells Rich his plan to get his young-but-talented team ready to win, what his initial impressions have been with #4 overall pick Sauce Gardner, how New York was able to land Jermaine Johnson II late in the 1st round of the NFL Draft, why he’s expecting a big step forward for 2nd-year QB Zach Wilson, what the expectations are for 1st round WR Garrett Wilson, if he’s expecting a healthy Mekhi Becton for next season, and how he’ll deal with his team’s challenging early-season schedule. 

Las Vegas Raiders TE Darren Waller and Rich discuss his new ‘Comeback Stories’ podcast and his battle with addiction that nearly derailed his NFL career, why he’s been so impressed by his new teammate Davante Adams and the connection he has with QB Derek Carr, and explains why the competitive AFC West will be “gladiator-type wars” week in and week out.

Rich doubles down on his prediction that the Raiders will win the AFC West next season., and the guys break down the latest from Major League Baseball.

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But what's going on like younger team. While the problem might how do you gel that how you harness that use and talent in a league that you know cease on that, if it's not potentially placed on the field and in a way or eight you can be taken advantage of that youth and talent coach you know that inside and out. How you harness the like. But like any young person in the field right you have your learning the objective of the old movement to get much playing time as possible so they get scarred like a veteran while you and if you could get them thinking and playing like a veteran while they're still running with the combine when you have a chance to be a very small roster so does the watch of the paintball is a roller coaster ride is stressful absolutely, but but in our opinion, if you're able to write it out. Developing guys right way and you got guys were made of the right stuff like we feel like we had were there, grind and find ways to get things done. We really do think the potential of this payment is pretty cool and want to get you coach, when I ran into sauce Gardner to combine. It was in the NFL network suite, where they were taking still photographs and having them have video videos of them walking through a like a confetti machine that we would use that video going to break up our broadcasting in the top prospects were brought through. I ran into sauce Gardner I saw the sauce chain. I said hello to him. I saw how big and tall and wide he is and I just look saw the look in his eye of of getting it without feeling too big on his own britches and he had me at hello. I said I walked on like that's that's that that's the gotta jet your ticket fourth overall. I'm wondering what what you thought of sauce. At first sight coach know all the men got the 20th. My wife were watching flight 2022 of the last episode were talking and my dad to learn that you know you got the humility to warm that comes with the tremendous amount of confidence that allows him to talk a lot of crap's place an amazing balance that kind of investment per person related to God love them. He is not afraid to ask questions you not afraid to proceed.

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I feel the same way that you mentioned flight 20, 22, which is the documentary that the Jets are put together five parts on their YouTube page. Looking at the last off-season a very hard knock style. I think my favorite part about that is whoever does the voiceover work and who does the voiceover work for that document you got you got an amazing radio but is that a phenomenal job like you and the rich oxen show some sign fishing, not just on the week talent, and I'm just since content coaching but it is a fun watching. The interesting part about that. Robert Sawyer and the rich show. I did not know that Jermaine Johnson told Joe Douglas to trade up for him, but you were four and 10. At the time when he said that like work, where do you think you should be training up for him coach you know I think I will gather all the trade up. I have no idea I'd like.

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Worked out perfectly know the abnormal lab was that moment like for you where you already had a remarkable talent at the corner position that you know what you can do that without your side of the football. In terms of expertise previously being defense and Derek Wilson who will get to in a second for the other Wilson if you will about the fact that you're sitting there and you can get Jermaine Johnson at the end of the first round and all the cost she was a second that you already had another second. In your back pocket very hard for Friday night we not had to be something for you coach know once we took Garrett looked over at Joe later reported.

Jermaine Johnson got a go for the kind of a discussion between your mind right. And Joe Joe gave a number and that I think you can get there. I think I think that make the 15 we could start picking up the phone and and shoot from 15 to 2026 to go pick it was Joe's relentless is calling calling calling is documented and made it happen. Don't go on Milwaukee is calm and collected, but you relentless in pursuit to try to make her getting all the information he needs to make best selection possible in the note, you have to get lucky sometimes in the market argue with Marie at human rights in our Republic Were Pretty Lucky. So Robert Saw the New York Jets until Cheer on the Rich Eyes and Show We All Know It's Recorded Accurately.

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Every team in the NFL for me is capable of going up on that's why the greatest sport in the country on the parity from top to bottom. Every team is capable of putting on a show on Sunday and that'll make you great coach. I really appreciate the time I was Father's Day for you.

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Really appreciate the time. Congrats on a huge spring and look forward to seeing the fall appreciated off the bike. Thank you so much you got that set Robert Saleh had coach the New York Jets right here in the which I wasn't sure I should use the word autumn not saying I'm looking forward to fall.

I don't want to jinx the dancing tank.

I am not of sound mind say that's probably a nice gift.

Call when you have seven kids on Father's Day.

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Now I know what they're about. You can do the best job explaining what your podcast is to everybody wants to hear about it know about your story and others done it yet will come back story knew Michael Donnie starting on the idea. Donnie got me after the hard not being aired would like. He followed me share my story. After none noted got me. Are you been working with our Matthew would work with the other hobbies like yoga and like coaching things like that so the conversation that we had real log vulnerable. We became really good friend and you like to make podcast needed make a platform out of the conversation.

Invite notes a couple minutes because the wind is just a couple people on your secretary about it burst you to overcome the how to get where they are today. We had the opportunity to speak a lot of really cool people that a lot of people know they are suspended all financial or Carson Daly, Alex Smith, we know his comeback story. Danica Patrick turned Matthew in previous season, Michael Beck and Michael Phelps this year. What what about you can't help how how are you still writing your story down Waller for me.

I feel like writing my story by continuing to try to be the best great tomato back in not settle for the progress I have made the thing that I have accomplished with the continued no strive for improvement. Throckmorton to strive for no platform impact that no impact must be glad I can through what I've been through and the experiences that gain throughout my life, so should continue into the only gas into no reason not to bring people with me what you tell people down Waller who are battling any addiction, regardless of what maybe about finding the willpower what what you tell folks about that in the struggle to find it in the struggle to continuing what what your answer to that there for me after I just did so is likely to keep you awake, legally it plus payment guilt on you and make you not want to tell anyone about what's really going on and know you think that you're not being a part of my life are you protecting your engagement really are harming yourself in private where nobody else can get to you or Steve later at so for me, me and the need to have the power to change another cookie-cutter power hired immediately that I believe that that's the case for knowing what I really truly want freedom from whatever their addicted to buy a therapy note to build a community around the clock it really be on people have secrets and things that they like. I'll never tell anybody until you tell people that will never be us.

You want so is it still around that you're on down yet. Yeah, I thought my therapist once a week have a sponsor that the down relief and talk with one week. I got younger mentor now got I did with it and we just keep it real talk because you're not think that the way you know you just get more anxious to get more bogged down but you don't share what maybe going on your day-to-day will you share youth go for your go back into whatever you do with a better monitor better attitude that expected liming was in it just seems to me, and again, this may be a generalization, a generalization living in Vegas, where there's no trappings all around. Mark must be significantly difficult is that is a true unfair fair what you say to that, down like that is a fair assumption particular up enough like I noticed because nothing here and not directly more than I ever have. Not at my relationship with no ultimatum.

I liked Eileen on an app no commune with on a weekly basis like her stronger than ever. Just be honest with him and I just bill you have to say. You're welcome dear crazy thing like a city like Vegas like how could you possibly know states over drive being sober but it's like no I could imagine being in a better place for my recovery. And for me to continue write my story means you have a feeling of success every day you don't go in that direction right now we need to set this at empower as well. Down yeah yeah like that a lot today. Waking up not happened attitude of self-centeredness because death addiction creating amino I like it mine. I guess I would never outline whatever the consequences are commitments or accountability. I have to stop going out the window today with an attitude of helplessness try to give whoever know what I'm being more common in the community are places I have trying to get accredited out of it that after medial platitudes where need to be what I am preparing for and effort I put in I do posting to their that protected me like I will enter the results with things as long as no I think think bigger than me down Waller right here on the rightsizing show again comeback stories a podcast that he is conducting along with international yoga instructor and mindfulness teacher, what's his name again.

What's his name and on start Donnie very much so Donnie Stark and his comeback story's newest season July 11 were all podcasts are available here on the recharge and show let's talk a little bit of football down Waller. What does Devonte Adams look like up close and personal. Working out to you under Adam's mood move or talk you in my life.

No suit on, he didn't know how to ascribe that he knows not like over the top like reading it when you don't have to explosion equipment but it's like I don't know that it's like no like you really dictate the pace at which a movie he moved out, he moved faster.

No program but yet just walking and release in nuclear throughout the I've never seen one.

I mean, you know, it's so rare for somebody this talent to be moved or want to move and his relationship with Derek Accardo is something that makes his movement to Vegas and this team unique and normally somebody of his talent, and there still would be a period of trying to get on the same page. The quarterback I'm wondering if you've already witnessed 1/6 sense these two kids if you will have this crazy Fresno kids have on this field right now for you and your team seen it yet seen a large number of down connection between the two over the matter.

Last month and 1/2 like they like particularly precise. Like how quick they just convicted and then doused his money like you can tell that the connection is been there for years is already taken place, and already back pay and offer them or how they just know I get out there and dominate what you expect, like, okay, like the money connection is been met and that would now I know there's no line Waller but have you gone to Garden City and forget your body positions last several years, we have a sick sense to have a conversation similar to Derek Arnold IV had been there for everybody wanting you will know, there focusing on day-to-day. I will focus on the day Monday near hundred over the middle. Women around look stupid so very fond of our psyche know how to case take place over time and how is Josh McDaniels nonsense move you around like the chess pieces you can be present. We sent yeah it's really everywhere. You need a key part of the book is concerned, inside outside school by herself. No trip rations both like pretty much everywhere. I'm excited about the challenge that is present because know that makes it harder for people to really know where yet. So he's diversifying your game in a way that has not been in a mirror in your tenure there in Vegas so we sent yet in every I've done a lot of things under like that's been very helpful in asking you even more. Being so it's just you and more. The bag with more opportunities to build and when you know so let's talk a little bit of the defense of Macon. That's because we now having Chandler Jones on the other side house that looked to you so far down on the line around you look or impressive. One had to put on pretty soon they don't allow them to the religious right practice like they really can't but yet it looks impressive so far. Just remember, their drill working against all lives are drill so I'm excited you have okay so what's the general sense that you guys have on the conversation of how deep the pool.

The AFC West now is, and that Ross Wilson is now in Denver and it's another year for her to get better and more homes are still the homes and thus you guys are gonna have your hands full with no true shot to win it all. That's that that's a general sense out there wonder how you responded, this commonality I want to go about for a long time to look at talent in one particular division. How can God, I've seen one so you know wheat on weekly basis. Times in a season that you know can be gladiator type wars and I don't know of you as my thing on like that, but most what about the barley line up against our most talented and know that I have the opportunity to win a championship, but they have no quality rosters like a lot, but I think that I may have to bring anything well do you do you know any let's just say a nationally televised sports talk hosts and just general hosts who have already put their marker on the Raiders to win the division you know of any of them down on you know many of her God's Darren. I am Capon I got a silver and black Capon and I've been having Chris, I've been in since 11 about sensible since one another and lunch today while the day that Friday when Devonte Adams that's that's me so I'm in your yard.

You had me at hello I'm big on something on the Raiders issue. There is no in and out much as doing that just to get a live trap I'm doing. I try get your your approval, but just to let you know I just don't throw this around, I don't spout to use a phrase that you used earlier. I chose the Golden State Warriors to win the championship from day one and look what happened is a parade going on as we speak right now to look up to.

Okay that mean not not not to me don't say that means took to make me look at what what would it mean for you to to get the championship to win it in Las Vegas. Based on everything that you said earlier on in your career path, but will that mean for you Amanda to connect with. Never experienced anything like that on down at here's bring out here with the painting and you guys like Derek Musto got that no middle finger been here with the rated where he was so very and now to staying the course then no stay with the process and to be in this like we are now into know if you go that we have made the candidate you can stay make you know the way that my life story*last Max Crosby under pot.

I think you guys have a great conversation. I like to be in line it on their own. Okay so you guys are sharing stories of recovery and addiction and comebacks.

That's what you're doing on the conversation. There really are coming up soon as well. Did you lie something that prior to the conversation. I really accomplished out closets order that July 11 is when the new season of comeback stories hits were all podcasts are acquired, Darren Lawler, let me know when you're in Los Angeles. I'd love to have you in person and it was great to see at the broadcast boot camp and let's chat as you go about your business for the football season right back at you. That is Darren Waller at Rackley to case wall 83 on twitter and that's the same spelling without the 83 on Instagram right here on the transition big fan man said, I'm telling you, if you're paying attention to Devonte day there is him and then he said Hunter as in Renfro spinning people around making them look stupid in the middle of the field. We talk about the rounding.

Now poor sleep in on Josh Jacob feeling well.

He's late and pick up his options so people, wonder, and what's up.

I think about this the next running back option fifth year that gets picked up will be Jonathan Taylor's is Axa your sand that's going to be just me and whose foods came running backs for fear option money unless they are already showing you what they can do in their old incredibly special, and if Jacobs runs like crazy. This year, let him run like pockets for you and if he wants to get paid and you don't want to pay and then make that decision. Then I know that's an unfortunate fact of life for running backs the you know, like which running back of first rounder Oregon gets what he doesn't actually Jonathan Taylor's not for fear option is chosen second so I don't even think maybe the next naming the next first round. Running back that's going to get 1/5 option for fear option picked up Jonathan Taylor's can get paid very soon. He can hold out right now if you really felt like an error in his mind's eye, but it doesn't sound like Jonathan Taylor right now but as we all know that's not Taylor A going to hear a three year three running backs that that doesn't work less on saying it just so that against Josh Jacobs.

There are many first-run running backs are to be around anyway then we can get a figure option picked up as a first-run running back that's just good to be a rarity nice note, Naji Harris, that's process thinking there will