REShow: Nicole Auerbach/Peter King - Hour 2

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Football is back people and college football has been back for a few weeks and that's you know the beginning of professional football return because that's what college football is these days name, image and likeness steel folks name, image and likeness deal. The latest to chime in on the subject matter is Kevin Warren of the Big Ten which is holding its media week this week in Chicago, Illinois, home of the Northwestern Wildcats want to include Chicago. That's where I did my quarter for which I did all my classes from Northwestern graduate school will not an inductive Medill and in the in the South Lakeshore drug not but any rate, I would say Chicago is the heart of 10 country, but we are to here in Los Angeles, El Segundo, and so Kevin was asked about the name, image and likeness deal and what what he thinks of it and what can be done to bring it in and this is what he said. I'm a big proponent of name, image and likeness.

I am so grateful that many of our student athletes have been blessed with the ability to monetize your name, image and likeness. That said, I'm disappointed that we still have to operate with these various patchwork of laws from a state-level standpoint we need federal legislation to help put in some guardrails to make it even more cleaner to make sure these name, image and likeness is not used as a recruiting inducement so we have a lot of work to do, even from a political standpoint.

Now you know what is he talking what he saying is help us out federal government, you know where it's look Congress agrees on hardly anything these days. As you will know even the simple stuff because they're all Of them are trying unit one to their podcast microphones to try and tell us what they think so they can get a soundbite on Fox news. You know what, I don't think were going to see any consensus on the subject matter. It's 105° everywhere. There's a lot more important stuff for the federal government to figure out then how to figure out name, image and likeness for a group of administrators who should know quite frankly just figure it out themselves and I cried over and over again. I think that's where it's going to go in the Big Ten is one of the leaders, and best of all of this subject matter with USC and UCLA together, when your rules the Big Ten and say compete with us.

SEC and ACC and everyone else own rules and see if it passes muster with the wind with the Supreme Court at some point where it might wind up being a leader on that front, but only as we were doing the Big Ten and to do that for the Big Ten +1 more teams at top come in at some point and then the super leagues begin your own idea. Create your own super leagues in your own national championship playoff system. Don't wait for the federal government.

Good Lord, that'll never happen. Joining us from the Big Ten media day in Chicago, Illinois somebody was sitting there for that and is part of a big week for college athletics from the athletic Senior writer Nicole our document, which is a trauma Mercedes-Benz vans from under you. Nicole is a problem that I should've known that Nicole should have known that because I did also see basement cocktail on your twitter feed so I should figure that out my dad. They're not in Chicago there in Indianapolis so I think that's why have you want to correct my mistakes and errors so what what is Kevin Warren saying what is he thinking with the IL saying that the federal legislation is is necessary really. I don't get that out great leader and all your problem though what they would even waiting for the midterm sweetheart which party and IL. The Republican ID were more narrowly and I Allen everything proposal Democrat cabinet are represented more wide-ranging healthcare meeting on the ability you bargain or other topic that got into a bill that would also drive and I Allen economic opportunity. I really had felt like it had when and I'll come down a bunch of different everyone is really you had Mark Emmert national line and happening in court rolling back here. What you know that deferring to cool and a preview of what the regulated light look like because of legal issues and the world turned and looked differently.

One of the world going no air going to be federal legislation and federal healthcare one really important rules and regulations around the and not get and we know that David trying to get protection and Mark Emmert talk about that but really again in a world in court rolling like you really care bona fide regulated like your earlier point about the Big Ten could own rules and more likely because better with all these other topic that no other school restrictions on going that direction and where are we moving in an area where happy to be able to earn an opportunity to not moving toward the way to restrict absolutely no Michigan got a top-notch law school. I know that success to me and I'm sure there are other Big Ten legal monster can all get together and come up with something that Kevin Warren can present to athletic directors and school presidents in the Big Ten just leads on that front, but maybe they may be concerned that they do.

If the IL rules that they play by are not where other people are played by then, suddenly, they lose in the recruiting and and and suddenly lately they can't compete when there's a college football playoff scenario that's that's actually codified.

That's maybe that's it, Nicole. I don't know what you. I like and IL. Like I mean, it certainly are more more talking about what happened to be at employee employer modeling collective bargaining or union or something like that vary greatly like you're moving more towards that direction where the meaner you don't have third-party don't Like freaking out our Orap guardrails third party like you can't, it would be actually quite a bit school project directly deal directly right now. What anyone wanted comfortable with like we are going to moving direction. I stop Oregon you get into a revenue sharing model point and negotiated on haply but whatever that is hard for me to make the comment you like to build a different environment, a different financial reality and and I think that again we think about like a wire from the comfort or why Big Ten in a different track. Everybody else like it outside factors come into court or convert the people are happy, the collegiate model to change and pay athlete directly and certainly your money and so I think you obviously ability and purity be able offer support, but I do think you kind of got there I down the road wondering and waiting to see you know what to be the next major Domino file that could against teams like the economic reality of how college coursework: just like you're on the rich doesn't show you Naprosyn stated in the souls noted the system got Marcus Freeman on tomorrow's program.

How much is Notre Dame being talked about. There are no USC and UCLA something to Kevin Warren talked about today. Why not the Big Ten see only conference that touches both oceans.

What about Notre Dame's accident. Yeah, I'm not about Notre Dame and the Big Ten and probably never been marked Notre Dame because that you mentioned the code 30 shoulder in LA very New York and at Notre Dame like a flag and believe that it is a national brand and should be moving around you had.

You now have other rival Michigan. Another that that might not feel like it have to join a conference unless one of two things happen one gets all the way that it will national game. Having people in the play. You in different parts of the year to fill out your national expanded and there's a lot of large opportunity for Notre Dame and when they have been the playoff and if you don't bet mentally. More like Megan, 2014, whatever that is planted only conference and/or almost only concrete like having that would be coming up and put it on Notre Dame but maybe have been able to have that independent what they value related. So the question then becomes know about the two major factors. Excellent play out and if they think they can tell their independent and do what they want they want make the flap when they're good, but I need to carry many cards every conference would take a call from them any convert them but it's really going to come down when Notre Dame feels like they need to you, and I think right now believed they can schedule how they want and the model that they were looking for flap attention last year and data model that are to come here and look at really know what right thinking and found that the commission want a lot of large burial line with what Notre Dame on so if the actors are there. There is not a pressing need for them to move right now, but again if there worry about. The mayor commented that the file back that that change: yes let's run a network analyst 2010 meetings you week in Indianapolis in the last one for you. What's the talk there about scheduling because you know that's UCLA and USC in their house when the weather is awful. I'm serious like you decide who plays USC and UCLA every year I mean is that it does USC get added to the Michigan schedule and… A lot of crap for saying that every major national Big Ten rivalry involves Michigan USC is another one.

How do you decide who gets to go westward comes Easton who plays UCLA and use USC every year year all barely half the geography right there are people that are cropping by nonconference and breathing temple that finally there are two of them are playing right like you can be creative and be flexible there and create new rivalry. Happy but iconic brand – and yet not at the fairly happy, like Nowak because I think the work that they're going to need creativity coming coming eat, but I think I have a lot of fun with it.

I mean I guess I should get you at the Ohio no one allowed up to very know about agile but I think you going to be able to play around with that and I think you're actually right about like the geography and management there back a couple years ago when you called into the many favors and they played 12 straight feet and they did have a 50 like week one or something like that. It was dark and strategic schedule on behalf of the Big Ten you want to put your best team in position that don't know how.

How does that incorporate new members that people never share right away as well. By the way for you big deal. But you know how how do you balance that and then also give your teeny partner that everyone that they wanted to be part of everything I need iconic brand that they do class with your iconic brand to mere figure all that out, and agile. In general, because you know I now know and Activision felt. I think hopefully there's the balance. Hopefully there's no couple protected rivalry that he could find some of the new member but I don't think it to be taught geography in the football because these programs are already traveling somebody like somebody sitting in Ann Arbor Columbus Happy Valley might have to do at some point State College midnight took off running your you know the Rose Bowl or the Coliseum somebody there staying up to three in the morning watch their team player mean the Big Ten can have a ton Windows that they haven't normally had that's coming down the pike so the meantime I look forward to the North face deal with USC. The first ever such a thing.

You know Patagonia UCLA deal that might be coming right up Barbie out that coming November to be fun and interesting, like I think adding the element be Frankel and Kevin Warren didn't like the fact that they'll be in for time down to talk about kickoff on the left. So yeah all that that you talk about Apple.

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What we always do in the media is take something fun and try and read into it, that's that something serious for the for the for the season. I serious. It does appear that none of the expectations that are achieved upon the bills and this kid has all affected a single thing about him. It looks like that I should go either one of the things I wrote a little bit about my column is that you know I was talking to Sean McDermott about about Al and also about some of the stuff that happened this off-season tops grocery store shooting at all that and an end to volunteer this he said you know it's like when David Ortiz took the microphone after the marathon bombing in Boston and he said this very bleeping city and I mean obviously, this is Josh Allen is not in Buffalo yet, but Ortiz became often just but his whole thing was athletes are really important in cities and in this particular case, you remember, risk is probably two months ago when when Josh Allen went down to the side of that shooting and how eloquent he was assertive and comforting words and all that stuff that I think he he started to become more than just the quarterback of the Buffalo Bills. She really became all civic leader in many ways and you talk to the people around the bills and in his advancement in those kind of things with those kind of thing really has been impressive to the people around. I just love I love. I just think the face of the league. Now, which by the way Bill stands at the drawing for quarterback to be called so for decades. On last year was not a fluke at all. It was a step forward.

Now everybody believes the next step is winning at all and I don't think any quarterback ever played that I have covered.

I don't think any quarterback is played a better game than the game he played against New England and the playoffs and me there guys.

I'm sure we can all talk.

Figure out games where quarterbacks were were unbelievable and perfect all that stuff. But on that night with the weather being absolutely horrendous being 0° whatever it was, but I don't how you play the game any better, particularly against your tribal in that weather than they did. That night was that he did that night and then pay the next week in Kansas City where you know he was fantastic in that game as well. Look, I don't know why me to pick to be MVP this year. I think I no longer pick but but I know I will not be surprised if he goes on an incredible run right out because everything is they really have a good supporting cast is better in the backfield.

Now Gabriel David is a ship 1B to Stefon Diggs. One day get a really good tight end and Dawson Knox.

I don't know. I think this team is really pretty good here so so next. Where are you still in Western New York know I came home I came to Brooklyn for three days.

Thursday I'm going to Foxboro to see the patriots and then just continue on. I guess I might miss Jonesboro week is removed, but everybody expects him to be ready for the beginning of the season.

Jerry Jones today Peter saying giving a vote of confidence to Mike McCarthy with McCarthy sitting there and saying how McCarthy would be sitting where he was if he was not somebody who McCarthy, Jerry Jones believed to all take his team to the Super Bowl and when it and then he added at the end and I have choices is what he was pointing out what want to make of all this is Mike McCarthy saying that this is a media driven narrative, but I leave it to you. There's only one thing in this particular story right now and that is winning games you know if they figure 7 and 10 this year.

Mike McCarthy's getting fired if they go to heaven when a playoff game. Not and so I don't know any time Jerry Jones opened his mouth about Mike McCarthy and says anything. It's a story for three days, when in reality, the only thing that matters now and it will matter going future is how will the Cowboys play. I understand that everybody on God's green earth thinks that a year from now it'll be Sean Payton leading the Dallas Cowboys and Oxnard and you know what it might be if it clear that Sean Payton very likely is very likely, but likely is get back into coaching and it clear that the Cowboys love Sean Payton but he's not filing Mike McCarthy the Cowboys play well, so there's that storyline. What you make of the Kyler Murray contract clause requiring him to study independent William Rappaport wrote yesterday, right as well. Exterior was yeah I I was asleep when it happened.

So know so so Skyler was listening to his was listening to the meditation of his eye. I immediately I immediately thought, that's not a small story that is not that's not little sweet because what it what it said immediately to me is that we just want some assurance that you're gonna work at this job.

Can you imagine can you imagine somebody ever approaching Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and saying hey we have were putting in a homework clause in your contract. It it is I don't know what to say other than it it says to me that this organization might be a little bit concerned about the kind of work.

Kyler Murray does away from the facility and clearly they're going to deny that. But why then did you put it in the contract likes like that in the language that also appears to be unenforceable unless there is a you know all way to do it right away is exactly what it is clear take tablet hole just pay these tablets, which used to be playbook you know 20 years ago this would have been impossible to enforce okay okay but today it's not impossible because when you turn your tablet, your issued tablet on note there is a record of that the you know there basically is an easy record of that inside the server at the team easily and inside the team server so when nothing is turned on the team can know that it's that it's turned on by who works instead of watching the film on the Bears. Kyler is not watching some bear on streaming at the same time, you know, like the title know, Rich. I think they probably would be able to tell what he's watching on that. I think they can. I think there's enough of whatever digital fingerprint about what you're watching and look is it possible that he hired John go here I'll pay you 50 bucks an hour to watch watch this tape on my email on my tablet. Could he do that. I suppose he could and but the bottom line and this is this this raised eyebrows when I read about because again, Peter. It's just here's the deal. Okay the Cardinals are knocking to walk away from Connemara because they think he's not a hard worker, when he's out of the building because he's so generationally remarkable when he does play and it's not as if he skips team meetings right I mean he does do the work when it's required of them in the building if they think the extra stuff is the difference in winning and losing. And maybe that has been a cause for the last couple years with the post Thanksgiving day swoon that appears to perform the steam every year right. The question is though all right is how will Murray take this maybe just make he's got to be infuriated that this is the conversation today and that we we all feel like that he needs to be babysat and he doesn't have the same work ethic and say every single other quarterback in the NFL in his position right right right side. II understand I I think you're right about this and I am I think it's notable and it will be interesting to see how all parties handle it from here on out here on the rich Isaac show so I'll ask you this question that asked Daniel Jeremiah early remarks yesterday. The team, it intrigues you the most, 20, 22 entering season.

Peter King's which Detroit Lions okay all right you had me at Detroit you have not.

Not that I think there beat the Packers but an I don't even know that. Finish ahead of the Viking I doubt they will, but I just like a lot of the things that I see happening in Detroit. I think that Ian Campbell has a very very good feel of the popes of this team. I think that Erin Glenn has been shown using defensive coordinator for a playmaker upfront which they simply did not have and I think now they think they might have one in Aiden Hutchinson be a lot of pressure on him. Obviously, and then I believe that that the way I often look rich for how it team played later in the year early in the year when looking toward next season and you know Jerry Goff was three and one down the stretch this team with three and three down the stretch and I think when I look at how a team plays when the games are absolutely meaningless. That is significant to me. These guys play really hard for this coach and I just I like a lot of what I see there was one thing I was very may the end of an OTA practice and coming off the field. I was spinning there talking to Brad Holmes their general manager coming off the field. I bet there were 20 guys who came up in either Facebook the general manager hugged him and had a little 32nd little thing with them and why would he think I submit these guys not only like you they look like they really like being here know that you just can't get the impression that things are changing their and I think they get a decent chance to win seven or eight games when we lose next quarterback son was as hard as he actually signed really about the only one left like obviously burrowing her sign this off-season.

You would think but II don't know who's left, it's entirely possible that one of those signed up for Lamar Lamarr could go into this year with contract and will have to French heart in it that you know I think the ravens are sitting here right now thinking and again I have no idea what I I were them. We can either find Omar Jackson right now for somewhere in the vicinity of $47 million a year something like that or we can wait and if he has a frockcoat type year that he had a decade ago that on himself if he is a year like that. Then we get to pay a $55 million so maybe they say we don't find them anyway so maybe we ought to just bite the bullet and do it now, but there's one thing that makes me a little bit uneasy about Lamarr plea for playoff games. He is not played well in a single one of them. I don't think and so that's four games one and three record thingies average 13 points a game or something like that and and that makes me uneasy.

You're not drafting your paying Lamarr Jackson. You know whatever they're paying 40 or $50 million a year. You know could beat the Browns in October, paying them to beat the bills in genial, no doubt about that.

So my answer to that is my my kids go to summer camp that is a very Baltimore you know centric base within it.

Okay, there were natures. These men I mean and and and and Lamarr is the ravens organization and to their credit they changed everything about what they do for him. When they turned to him and I know he hasn't played as you say, well in a playoff game, but part of that may also be where's the gamebreaker outlawed right like let me see let me see somebody of Jamar Chase's status drafted for what's one of those guys. What's he summarizing to the top with different, something got terrific tight ends in a terrific running game, but they really are game changing receiver with him and I know that might be sound like making an excuse for Lamar, but let's see one of let's get him one of those type guys who can change the game for guys that are not argued. I'm not arguing you make a decision about on the mark about that at what you know you don't have the ability you.

You can't wait for because they don't have one now right. The earliest they could have one is next off-season and you've got to do something with them before the 23 season so look, I just know this might be a little bit uneasy paying dearly and I might have to be a little bit uneasy paying him $1 trillion. Before I saw him play well and appreciated so let's talk before the season. Again, always appreciated okay with all the best. Thanks Peter_King the great I can go back to the drop that we have asked you to create over the last couple weeks. It seems to be the year or this business shows and business we've chosen is somebody who has already won an MVP and somebody who has absolutely woven his game into the DNA of the city. The city and the fan base and the team. It's his turn. It's his time. Are you gonna let him walk because he hasn't shown up in a playoff game in the manner that Josh Allen has his game changing man and when the ravens are up on you and they're doing all of this mesh point craziness with Lamarr and running backs and full backs and tight ends and wide receivers and they can dictate the pace they can dictate on offense, creating confusion for your defense. You have no idea who's got the ball, who's going to get it there real tough to beat you get up on them and now it's Lamarr's gotta beat you and there's a defensive coordinator of the Mike Sando piece that says carries never to be known as a quarterback is known as a football player that's them saying Lamarr can't beat you with his arm.

My point is, when Lamarr tries to beat you with his arm cool you afraid of who you afraid of Mark Andrews right. Maybe another guy we are afraid of on a team Wishart Bateman Devon diverting the teams approach. The second is a wide receiver right now. Give me Jamar Chase adjusting Jefferson a jail and waddle. She's never had anyone of them for him. Jimmy, one of them.

Hollywood Brown was that guy and he made someplace. There's also I've seen it on social media.

Number of times Lamarr hit him in hands and the hands dropped the ball big time place game changing plays, including a Detroit game that they needed Justin Tucker to bail them out with a 60 million yard field goal. Let's take a break when we come back here on the rich eyes and show Bill Belichick some fascinating things coming out of his mouth today that you really never hear from him. That's next back here in the rich doesn't show 844204 which number to dial New England Patriots have open their training camp writ large and there everybody there in the gathered media. One of the many questions asked of Bill Belichick is who is calling the plays on offense.

Another Josh McDaniels is gone is now the head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders my Las Vegas is not named any coordinators and by like the New England media has been hammering at this issue just bored four months. I will not name and offense of coordinator is a matter-of-factly titles for his coaching staff came out just last week Joe Josh got the title of offense of assistance/quarterbacks. These can be the one in Matt Jones easier and Matt. Patricia is senior football advisor/offense of a complex Bill Belichick asked exactly that today is so look on the head coach ultimately am responsible for doing so.that's what it is nice is answer. There is his courage and very short point and by the way there's no question every single offense of player knows right now who's calling plays because that Person Is Most Likely Pl. in Trenton trying to write memos when he is asked about the note you will recall replacement players that were Dominican place that really knows. And apparently it's not Patricia Tom Curran who covers the patriots from New England for new NBC Sports Boston since I'm nearing ID GAF territory. Look it up on the play caller/OC/DC talk.

Patricia is going to call the place and be acting OC but not naming him allows the patriots to let Detroit keep paying them through the lines contract which is this year and means Patricia doesn't have to do weekly coordinator calls alright so there's your answer. There's your answer and and Belichick's not to spell it out like that.

So it's Patricia and his number two pencil will be commonplace this year and you can have your own questions about whether that's can be the same as McDaniels or not, no question about how effective that's good you're not, but that's where it's going to be in the players already know what now what is Bill willing to talk about. Usually it's the past right you asking questions about the past seven vasculitis tight ends right now that's what is tight ends right up to the present. The prism of Zeke Mowat. You'll get along okay. What about us quarterback Matt Jones housing to look normally like. I will see will be sitting now here was his answer today. Got a great job on these these work extremely hard as got tremendous work ethic and in all areas. Think there's a dramatic improvement.

This was physical working conditioning workouts mechanics working on his footwork working on his understanding of our offense of opponent defenses of situations. All those things we talked about all those things in varying degrees.

Some more emphasis than others and emphasis on small things will come later on can do it all at once.

These work parties made tremendous strides in great job last year he starting from a much much higher point this year than that were started last year so this is off-season work as significant.

I think everyone recognizes know how how well he prepares and how much further along it was them that he was there, I mean that is just babbling on about just stop that asked Brady that the manhole cover just around it and have to do that for Tom mean early on in his career. Maybe I don't know what we always look about and forever more.

Belichick talk about Matt Jones the same ways.

What how he handled Brady.

It's 2022 and he was that is just you can call that high praise. That is the ultimate from Belichick fired up man, he wouldn't be doing that unless Matt Jones can a handle it. You deserve a great year last year but but to say that he's done all of that and the remarkable thing is, he's clearly taken to his independent study clearly taken to independent study. While top 10 QB let's go Pedro Martinez coming up as well give that might take some point me the hundred and just like I had the patriots making the playoffs last year and I made you just had to make cash 5 to 1 right now 5 to 1 peers is the Buffalo doesn't play New England until week 13 week after week after Thanksgiving Thursday night game again. Two teams are playing on Thanksgiving, so it's a full complement of rest, that is your week 13 post-Thanksgiving Thursday night game and then the final game of the year is out Buffalo so I will just say this. That would give me pause for your statement there.

Mikey is Josh Allen what all you did last year. This is why she's so beloved in this town of Western New York, Buffalo and everybody else there as well.

As for the obvious reasons. She snatched New England's sole in the playoffs and that doesn't make up for 20 years of Brady ass kicking, but it turned a page in turn the page and New England is now David because this quarterback is a goliath. Here is a as I said I call this two years ago, I sent Josh Allen is coming for your souls becomes for your soul, and he has when he has the ball in his hand, and you see it this year. A. A sense of inevitability that when you're going against somebody like him trust me as a Jets fan Brady Marino.

Those guys at the ball. Answer Jim Kelly for those take on your thereabout marriage is like okay housing and hurt me now I have to steel myself for that moment Allen showed that face to new England last year so Matt Jones, I'm glad, for your sake Chris and for renewing the fan that I know including those my household to hear that major step of improvement because that's what's going to be necessary and to a better be the most accurate quarterback Emily and the Jets better made the right moves in the draft because Buffalo is here to stay a misstep parade. They had when I got I got for the real story behind some of wrestling's biggest moments something to wrestle with Bruce Prichard and Conrad Thompson to all, opponents. Much of the conversation wears on a motion on there was number one is not even going back before you know Holcombe was a baby face Holt and Andres were able to go in headlines for New Orleans Superdome at Shea Stadium in Japan wherever they went. That was an attraction something to wrestle with Bruce Prichard listen to everything your podcast