President Trump Is Not the Antichrist or the Christ

Alright let me make it simple. Donald Trump is not the Christ, and Donald Trump is not the antichrist stage for the line of fire with your host activist and author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire valves like always 866-34-TRUTH that's 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown did that so that's the title of my latest article latest of three articles all written within a day. Donald Trump is not the Christ, Donald Trump is not the antichrist. And yes actually needed to write the article to address some of the extreme rhetoric going on as we approach the midterm elections, this is Michael Brown. Welcome to the line of fire.

If you have an opinion if you'd like to weigh in if you say how can you follow Jesus vote for Donald Trump. How could you possibly be an evangelical Bible believer, could you identify with Jesus as your Savior and Lord and vote for men like Donald Trump with all that he says knows how could you possibly do or, conversely, maybe your view is if you can recognize God's race this man up and he is for the good of our country needs can help make America great again and he's good for the church. If you can recognize that how can you call yourself a follower of Jesus. If you have either of those opinions or if you're if you're running into this kind of stuff in the workplace, maybe even in your family that the mention Donald Trump because these massive divisions give me a call when 8663 for 87884.

Whatever your position whether you agree with where I'm going with you. Differ with your summer between happy to hear from you 866-34-TRUTH for truth. Do you remember do you remember back in 2008, the extreme excitement that surrounded Barack Obama draw, remember, even in the years before that when he was the.

The rising star. When he spoke at the Democratic national convention and he wound people with this oratory skills and seem to be so gifted and so special and so many ways in and was speaking to massive crowds overseas and in here. He was the one he was the chosen one. He was the savior figure to summon one of his campaign speeches he talks about you're going to get an epiphany. You're just gonna know you're gonna feel it. You know, this is the moment vote for Barack Obama. Remember that so we been down this road before with his haters saying he sees the antichrist and his deep deep supporters like he's the man that's going to change America now with very different political climate with very different political leader skews me going through the same thing again in a very different way with Donald Trump now in response to my article. Donald Trump is not the Christ, Donald Trump is not the antichrist, a general name Mike a post at this comment and end of my articles go on a bunch of different websites stream.org is one place you can always find the Mike M posted this comment. You guys here at stream or having a running argument that is in your heads and in your heads only ABOUT Trump being someone Savior.

Not you write is this this is a question for normal people.

Take note that means you are being abnormal. It's not.

It's all in your freaking own head and it's a kind of disguised and self-righteous slander on your part to imply that it is an issue in our heads or hearts or spirits, and IT is not for! Now, the whole reason I wrote the article is responding to things that I run into all the time all the time and just but within hours of recent hours.

Comments from MSNBC's Joe Scarborough and Pres. Trump in a recent campaign rally reference to GOP congressmen who would body slander reported that he felt was harassing him and Pres. Trump's that I know I shouldn't say this but I'm gonna hey man, anybody can do that is a good guy. Lola PE laughed about it and supported him. I publicly took issue with it but but listen to Joe Scarborough's take as Joe Scarborough's talk about this and and again I just want you to know how I want you to notice how this ties in that the common theme makes criticizing Pres. Trump and those who supported or laughed at the comment directly ties into your religious faith is and what he had to say raise them. First of all who raise those people that are cheering and laughing when a president applauds somebody being beaten up and battered a reporter for asking questions about healthcare apparently what church do they go to growing up. They still go to church every week to church on Sundays and then Monday say applauds somebody beating up the press rescue question about healthcare reform art will there's an overstatement. I don't believe the man was beaten up, but he was slammed to the ground wrong shouldn't have happened.

I don't care if he was harassing Dorothy if he physically attacks to defend yourself without that was not the case shouldn't happen in the present United States most powerful elected official on the planet should not have praised him even laughingly so I agree on the one hand, but notice now that this ties in with your religious faith that if you laughed at that are applauded him you go to church and all this is the kind of discussion were hearing because evangelicals are widely associated with Donald Trump and therefore if he says something unseemly.

Now it is thought to affect our testimony.

So for say what I just said as someone who voted for the president as someone who still supports the president and the Simmons book coming out tomorrow if you have in order to get the order. Go ahead Donald Trump is not my Savior evangelical leader speaks his mind about the man he supports as president. So I I am in his corner yet because I differ with certain things or publicly take issue 10 what some people say about me for that. This not this I created this.

Why deal with all the time and socially upon the complainant's funds the world I live in this world by God's grace have chosen to live in.

But here, let listen listen to this. This is cited in my article Donald Trump is not the Christ on cups of the antichrist.

When I called for an honest and fair assessment of the charges against Britt Cavanaugh stating that the evidence did not seem to support the charges. Someone posted on my asked Dr. Brown Facebook page. I knew you were a heretic.

When I saw your positions on Trump and Cavanaugh, and this was followed by if you do not support Pres. Trump, you are no follower of Jesus. I assure you of that. Jesus told me work to get Trump elected. If your anti-Trump. It means that you do not hear the voice, Lord, plain and simple. If you do not hear the voice of more than Frankie. You do not know the Lord which says he brings you back to being Joel O'Steen with Heth Apartments.

The Taft timeout timeout here. Number one. Look, everybody is watching. I don't have a handlebar mustache first, and the less. This is like this.

Nicely must Espinoza not have the book never did to not hear best O'Steen but my message and Josie's message there is different as could be. Read my appeal to Joel Victoria O'Steen from book 4 years ago that got shared hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of times online so that her best right now, but our messages are quite different.

Nonetheless, when irrationality clicks it when spiritual irrationality clicks it. People just don't think clearly and this is this is how you can see they're not thinking clearly.

Okay number one no handlebar mustache number two very different message than Pastor Joel O'Steen okay but this fellow has his logic and it's a fellow I know because a solo who sent his logic, God told me to work to get Trump elected you say anything criticizing the president.

You are therefore anti-Trump. You are therefore anti-God. Me, that's that's the logic.

So the idea that you can brand someone a heretic rumor. I voted for Donald Trump. I put in writing not endorsing but here's why I'm voting for him. After posing so much in the primaries right but the fact that I could take issue ever. The fact that I could ever criticize anything the fact that these I don't know the Lord that I am and I hate to laugh because the guys so misled and deceived on the thing he does know the Lord but he's exaggerating his hearing and on top of that he's completely misunderstanding what I have to say I that that's that's one side. Here's the other side. I don't know if it was a day after I saw this Facebook post attacking me.

I saw this tweet out not long after seeing the comments I spotted this tweet, I'm on my feet.

Christian leaders should never have supported him semi-article. Christian leaders should never have supported him.

We have a Julius church that's what was tweeted.

So the entire church.

According to this has gone the way of Judas Iscariot, as evidenced by the fact that some Christian leaders support Trump so so the pendulum of extreme rhetoric swings both ways. Check this out there, some who even feel it's sinful for pastors to sit with Pres. Trump and pray for him.

This is a recent article Christianity today this summer.

Pres. Donald Trump convened African-American pastors at the White House to discuss criminal justice reform. The meeting angered black ministers coalition, which wrote in an open letter need not remind you of the posture of the Prince of peace, our Savior from the streets when he stood before Herod and Pilate.

He didn't even pray for them, South Carolina mega-church pastor John Gray, who sat next to Trump and prayed to open the meeting, defendant's attendance sitting at tables neither affirming endorsing a green or aligning the mother criminal justice reform bill. The reason for the meeting has received congressional bipartisan support.

So if your real Christian leader not only to refuse to meet with the president you don't even pray for him. So the rhetoric crazy talk is on both sides is on loss and in my article got a ton more examples in my book.

Lots and lots and lots of examples in my brand-new book Donald Trump Thomas a Regan releases tomorrow one more comment in the Multics of your calls right in my my goal is not to stir up more extreme rhetoric. My goal is to get us to think clearly. As believers here some summits for your Donald Trump is our president, our Savior, our Savior gets her life. President gets our vote, our Savior gets her on dialing undying loyalty. Our president gets our political support must not confuse the matters. No president can save America or any nation.

Only God can save America or any nation so then you have some some conservative leaders that fueled the fires a bit more. For example, Ann Coulter, outspoken, always with provocative titles. She writes a book. I cite this in my article in Trump we trust this came out in 2016 right so she came out with in Trump we trust E. Purvis awesome and Candace owns great African-American spokesman only mention her skin color because she has. She has raised a lot of issues about race, about conservatism, about politics that are so important to hear nation each year just to say the highly respect, which is the site but but she she tweets this out. She says I truly believe that Donald Trump is just the leader of the free world, but the Savior fit as well.

Regardless America the last as Western civilization. See what I mean about fuel for extreme rhetoric on either side. Can we do better discuss people back with your calls all the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown bag friends the line of fire. I am I am calling for a more nuanced position from followers of Jesus when it comes to the present. Good to be focusing on this a lot this week to try to give us wisdom to try to help us to be involved politically but in a balanced way not to swing in one direction where our whole life depends on on politics and was so absorbed within weaving divided our families over 11. The pastor shot me a note the other day that his daughter who loves Jesus, but is an ardent never Trumper and she does want to talk to him about this. Please don't talk about politics that because he's a strong current Trump supporter is what I do as a don't talk about politics your daughter leave out this fellowship around Jesus and leave that out. So sometimes we get so absorbed in ardent our life almost depends on who's in and who's not our spiritual state of mind who's in and who's not ultimately the courts are going to change America in the present government. Sonnets can be God working through his people. These institutions, and Pres. Congress and courts have a tremendously important role, but it's secondary role that God plays through his people and the gospel's, on the one hand, we can we get totally uninvolved and just say hey the whole system is corrupt and then when laws are passed and things going the wrong direction. Then we complain to get upset was our fault. We abdicated the responsibility on the other side we can we can act as if politics is the gospel as of the president is the Savior. So I'm I'm calling for involvement but in a balanced way.

In the kingdom of God first way and if if you say I don't know how to do that will put first things first major on the majors meet with the Lord in daily prayer and fellowship seek to have your life pleasing in his sight be a godly witness look to win the lost encourage the saved seek to minister grace to your family. If you have a family around you and then comes to voting make informed decisions is not that hard. I don't I don't think 866-34-TRUTH let's go to the phones and will start in High Point, North Carolina, Orlando, welcome to the line of fire Orlando. It looks like today. What, let's let's see if you can just chat with a lender see what was going on with his phone there.

We always try to give people an extra try once more. All right Orlando are you there okay not working with Orlando. I wanted to give the extra try because the little note I have on my screen so just have a real short note that tells me what a caller wants to talk about to swallow all know, and there may be. So the more urgent that I want to get to, but arguments being made that Trump's names are biz biblical now again I want to find out what that meant but semi-simple. What about the Trump prophecies. What about the idea that the Donald Trump is like a Cyrus figure and Cyrus in Isaiah 44, 45, he was a pagan king, not meaning that he was a child murderer or an evil man but he was not a worshiper he didn't know Yahweh, the God of Israel and yet, Yahweh, the God of Israel set. I am raising you up even though you don't know me, you're my anointed even if you don't know me, I will use you to restore the Jewish exiles to Jerusalem under the usury to rebuild the city. That's what I do is God. So what about the prophecies that God was raising up Donald Trump for such a time as this. They could all be true that not not that that Isaiah prophesied about Donald Trump nominal. Not that but that others see prophetic words from God saying that he would be our next president and that he would be a Cyrus, figure, and some saying that he would be a divine wrecking ball of sorts that he would be a bull in a china shop and yet he would be used by God in various important ways. Okay, so here's here's the question, even if that's true, and I do believe it's true, it doesn't mean you had to vote for him or doesn't mean you have to like him. I did vote for him and I'm glad that he's doing a lot of things he's doing in the next segment.

I'll talk more about and again I want to emphasize these things this week in conjunction with my new book coming out. This is on my mind want to do my best to help equip you as your forcible sanity and spiritual clarity in the midst of assigning chaos in the church. All too often compress I'm doing this to do my best to serve, equip, help strengthen in a systematic way and then we move on to other issues and Thursday still be thoroughly leaders Thursday and Friday will still be still be taking your normal questions calls barring some massive news breaking event that we have to address but even if you believe that God specifically raise Donald Trump upper purpose. Disney had a vote for him. In other words, if God's going to do it. He could do it and it doesn't mean that if you voted for them. You have to agree with everything he does. What about when he is likable in a china shop. What about when he he says and does certain things that we find offensive or destructive or hurting them or they help him, what then will to me my first priority is my witness, my first priority is my testimony as a follower of Jesus. Secondarily my political loyalty if maintaining political loyalty to a party or to a person to policy. If maintaining political loyalty to any of those caused me to compromise my testimony in Jesus that I put that testimony in Jesus first and I break with that political connection or are you following I would think you agree with next half hour. I want talk about something that is is been announced that the president's administration could be doing.

That's very, very positive on a social level and pushes back against the radical leftist agenda.

That's one reason why voted for Pres. Trump and that's why I plan to vote in a way that would support his agenda in the midterms but to make this as clear as I possibly can. I am, and I don't have access to the president.

I some friends who do some colleagues who do. I don't I don't mass them a please get a message the president for because you have some of the close. You don't do that if there is an earth shattering thing that I felt was of tremendous importance that I had to get to the president that I might say please see if you get this to someone close to him or to him, but that's not this, not who I am on the voice right. My primary calling is is not to be in inner circle with the president.

Others do that others have an open door and calling their leaders who prayed with Pres. Obama. One of them I saw spoke soul year. Something about another issue seem to be a solid genuine believer, God-fearing man he met regularly with Pres. Obama. Wishing may have steer a different direction by the folks have access list and have access this wonderful Billy Graham prayed with various presidents didn't take political positions. As you know, but God has an open those doors for me. My ambition is to not have those doors open. My ambition is to please the Lord and and be a voice now during the primaries, I endorsed Ted Cruz I'd never endorsed anyone before, but I endorsed a cruise II thought that in terms of the values that were important to me, pro-life, profamily, pro-Israel, that he stood strong, I thought, even though he was a Washington insider. He challenge the system.

He challenge the Washington cartels. He called it therefore could take on the system. I felt that was important because I do not trust the political system, Republican, Democrat, I do not trust the political system. There is a small okay. I also thought that he could be a capable leader in other ways. Therefore, I was asked to endorse him. I thought if I been asked to endorse him and potentially be involved.

Let's say one day he put together a Council for religious liberty or something like that. If I could be an influence in a voice or part of it or or just in any way get to someone that had his ear at any point. I would like to do that and have that involvement if that would be helpful. Well, no sooner did I do that then any comments I made on radio and writing about other candidates. People immediately sit through your Cruz guy.

Your Cruz guy and I realized you know the thing that's most important semi endorsement of a candidate or that my potential involvement behind the scenes to help a candidate to work with a candidate, but rather most important thing for me is to preserve my integrity as a voice.

Therefore, after endorsing him. Then after Donald Trump became a Republican candidate publicly said I don't know that I'll ever endorse anyone again. It's not wrong if others do nothing that's wrong. By all means, I'm not saying it's wrong, but I wonder for me if it was the right thing to do because the most important thing for me is to maintain my integrity as a voice, not now. Boil that down for your own life was most important for you and your life was most important in your witness was most important in the world in which you live isn't your political stand receipt. Your voice is a God, the mother is your voice is a godly father is your voice is a godly single person in the workplace is is it.

Is it your voice and other areas of the image is your voice a local church. Look, they're friends of mine who pastor multiethnic churches and the political views are massively divisive and in those settings. Basically they'll say okay your principles we vote on your values that are important to us and then they leave it there, they leave it there because otherwise they have complete division in the church over subnets ultimately second I had one meeting only rose invited by some evangelical leaders to meet with some representatives for the president, Jerry Krishna came in for little while and and we were asked before he came in.

Are there any comments.

Everything in this meeting will be passed on to the president and I said well like to raise this issue. I'm an evangelical leader. I voted for the president support.

Many of his policies but many comments he makes. That makes it very difficult for for me to garner support for him because it offends a lot of evangelicals and he can be a strong leader. He can be forcefully can fight back but if you do it in different ways.

It wouldn't alienate so many potential supporters does the very first thing I raised in the one opportunity that I had so I'm I'm trying. First and foremost to be a gospel voice voice and politically. This is quite secondary. Second, there is not even worth quite down the list from there. Am I making sense will be right over.

And it's the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown.

Your voice is more cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown back the line of fire friends. This is Michael Brown this week we are going especially focus on the church and the elections the church and the government.

The church and politics today.

Reflecting on some thoughts that Pres. Trump is not the Christ is not the antichrist is that the Savior figure is not the devil don't deify him don't demonize him and don't deify or demonize those who support him. Don't support. I want to repeat something on the day we stand in judgment before God is big question test will not be so what did you do with Donald Trump. It will be so what did you do with Jesus Donald Trump. You may all of us were like grains of sand in an infinite number of breaches compared to Jesus and his importance in his role in his rule and his goodness tomorrow. Answer the question evangelicals Donald Trump is this a match made in heaven, or marriage with how I think you'll find these broadcasts super super helpful. And of course tomorrow be Debbie. Looking forward to the release of Donald Trump is not my Savior and evangelical leader speaks his mind about the man he supports as president. All right, there are many people who wonder out loud, Mike. We know you Dr. Brown. We know your stance, we know you preach repentance and holiness.

We know you have a heart for revival. We know you often talk about the compromise state of the church in America we we know that integrity and character matter too many people say this to me how then could you vote for someone like Donald Trump that they say look at them in a look at his past comments he makes to this day is the ungodly.

How did you vote for someone like you and I tried to explain this conversation happens over and over again in the ties in with the title of my book. Donald Trump is not my Savior look he didn't die for my sins, I am not giving my blood for him on my giving my life for him. My testimony is not tied in with them. However, when it came to who's going to do a better job stopping the genocide of babies in America through abortion Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton was a no-brainer from Donald Trump when it comes to appointing conservative constitutional judges to the courts. Who's going to do a better job of that Donald Trump really cling to me. That was a no-brainer when it comes to standing with Israel when it comes to fighting against radical Islam when it comes to semipro religious liberties when it comes to pushing back against radical LGBT extremism. Who's going to do a better job of that Donald Trump really cling to me as a no-brainer. Therefore, because these are big issues to me which about the president not the Savior. Because these are big issues to me. Therefore I said I will vote for Donald Trump and therefore I support his policies today while taking issue with his personality and sometimes with the policy here there, but the major things the things that matter most to me in terms of what the president does. He's doing now. Most recently he has taken another major step with his administration.

There been many ready. So far, but another major step to push back against radical transgender activism, I wrote this article you can find it on our website.*Brown.org. More evidence that the transgender revolution will fail now. I always want to start here and make clear, I have nothing against those who identify stringent eye. I can imagine the struggles you live through maybe pain since your child thinking you're trapped in the wrong body. I can imagine how much rejection you suffered like I can imagine psychological I can try but I obviously can't. I can't put myself in your shoes if you identifies transgender.

I understand I can't. I'm not trying to argue may think I'm your enemy.

I'm really not.

I just have a very very different perspective from the outside and based in others of talk to a listen to of what is ultimately best.

It is the social revolution that I have an issue with all right so I would article back in July 7 reasons why the transgender revolution will fail. So will start here and then tell you about the recent developments with the Trump administration. So here it here. The seven reasons why I said transgender revolution will fail. This is back in July, one transgender revolution is oppressive and I backed up the trauma citations and comments to the transgender revolution is rational. Three. The transgender revolution is unhealthy for the transgender revolution's extreme by the transgender revolution is dangerous. 60 transgender revolution is a natural and seven, the transgender revolution as an attack on children and there's more more evidence for the statements, even in recent months. There are more and more developments that play into this but but now I have three more reasons for you. Why I believe the transgender revolution will ultimately fail, and talk about the all-out war on gender distinctions. The all-out war on the gender binary. This is human beings are male or female understand that there are some people that don't fit neatly in the male-female binary either based on their feelings or based on a biological chromosomal abnormality or combination of both. Again, I don't belittle that, downplay that what I am saying is the war on gender norms. The idea that that man menstruation and things like that that this this is social insanity is what it is and I say that with all compassion for those who struggle to think that I'm a hater. You can call me that. But I'm not speak the truth in love. So here are three reasons three more reasons, more evidence. Why transgender revolution will fail.

One the academic world will not be able to sustain its suppression of studies that contradict trans activism there. There are professors now, a network of 100 professors and scientists, scholars in the UK who say our work is being suppressed artwork is being held out and we are being harassed in the workplace and things like that because we're putting out scientific evidence that goes against the narrative all right.

And then second major point is, is this the world of sports will ultimately revolt against males compete with females. The most recently major cycling championship guy who identifies this woman won the championship you see them standing pose next to the two ladies. It's like come on son is not fair is biologically different and the third-place finisher said it's definitely not fair suffer this happening and then number three third reason why the transgender revolution will fail is is that governments governments will take action against radical trans activism so as not just in Hungary were Prime Minister Victor Orban just banned gender studies is the college thing that people are born either male or female, but here in the states.

New York Times just revealed this that the Department of Health and Human Services HHS is seeking to create a legal definition of sex under title IX of federal civil rights law that deals with education so HHS will define gender is determined on a biological basis is correct. Actually, they should of said will define sex. That's the word your time she refused.

But they'll do it based on a biological basis.

That's clear so it's biology, not feelings will determine sex, especially when it comes to the loss of title IX goes back to 1972 it was instituted code to prohibit discrimination on the basis of sex in any education program or activity that is federally funded so here's was going on.

The Obama administration now redefined sex with gender is there to say let's also sexual orientation.

That's also gender identity so the benefits that would've come to a a female athlete say to get a scholarship in a college and then help the colleges develop female athletic programs that could now go to a man who identifies as a woman completely undoing the whole purpose of title IX legislation civil what you mean by a radical transgender activist agenda what you talk about what here is a response to this announcement from the New York Times, hashtag won't be racist reports of US US trans policy shift sparks protests and the article states on Sunday night. Several hundred people gathered this on the Guardian.com on Sunday night. Several hundred people gathered in Washington Sq., Park in New York to protest against the proposal, joining thousands of others who posted their condemnation and pictures of themselves to social media under the hashtag won't be a racist and and what what are some of the concepts we reach you from a tweet under the hashtag won't be erased, but are you ready my gender is not binary.

My body is not binary. My body is my own trans women. That is a man who identifies as one trans women do not have male bodies, trans men and a woman identifies the man do not have female bodies biological essentialism is violence is any sounds. Many cyst gender meeting non-homosexual transgender is it any sounds for many cyst gender allies during this time in the USA in the world did you get that biological essentialism is violence other words, determining your sex by your biology is violence and if you don't speak out against this.

That is also violence.

So it's a mystery to me how it is that the so-called trans man whose woman who identifies as a man can menstruate if he does have a female body and how if he hasn't had complete 16 surgery he can nurse the baby and or conceive and carry and deliver a baby taffy doesn't have a female body because only female bodies can do that man cannot menstruate and not have eggs in their ovaries man do not conceive babies in rooms because they don't have loans nor men made to carry and deliver babies. So yes, trans man women who identify as men do have female bodies, so this is some of the radical agenda. We oppose and this is one of the reasons why voted for Donald Trump to be president because I know that Hillary Clinton would be all and on this kind of thing worse president Trump has consistently taken a stance about to the point that early on under Atty. Gen. Jeff sessions. They overturn legislation that said that when you're daughter is in school, 15-year-old daughter and there's a 15-year-old boy who identifies his girl once upon a girl sports team and share the shower locker room with your daughter under the Obama administration schools hallelujah do that or lose federal funding the trust administration immediately turn around. Same thing with transgender. The military, there are medical reasons.

The transgender should not serve in the military just like a host of other people who cannot serve for a host of other reasons.

President Trump acted on that. That's one reason I voted for him.

I don't like other things he does but the reasons I voted for him. Those reasons remain true and valid to this day I friends we come back we will look at a couple of things related to the gospel. And politics. If you got a point of view you one way and or your trans identified person that really does not like what I just said please call and tell me what I mean I give you hearing. I genuinely mean it.

866348788. It's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 6643 here again is Dr. Michael Brown, so he was really interesting in and worth remembering and thinking about America is different than other countries in that we we get more into political debate than some other countries do.

I mean that the church is within certain countries week we get more into debate about political issues and some of it goes back to our origins were founding fathers, many of them had strong religious views in the colonies were strongly religious and people fled to America for religious freedom so that freedom of religion was very important for foundation but was was also tied in with the larger concept of American division of America being a shining light so things just wheat we have more intersection between politics and the gospel because of which, because of which we often get to extreme in a political way and then react by swinging the other way as opposed to saying as followers of Jesus great commission comes first with a great commission is to go and make disciples not just converts but disciples and one of the callings of a disciple is to be salt be like to have me live that out how to disciples live but happens when you kids come home with issues from school. What happens when unrighteous laws to be pastor community and on and on and on it goes.

866-34-TRUTH I want to jump right in with Ken in Chapel Hill just got on a board here but can what we have time, please go for okay I don't want any so-called Christian all wrong may that not all will the Bible meaning way that it should be visible to so many people, but they don't think they explained explained by following exclusion by following him voting for him is one thing excludes me by following him okay if you'll you'll voting that there meaning that if you go vote for me.

Don't think that you are right okay so right.

So for example on pro-life Hillary Clinton was pro-abortion Donald Trump was pro-life on pro-Israel dinnerware. Hillary stood a new word, Trump stood on Pro family and marriage.

I knew that Hillary was really for gay marriage, and Donald Trump apparently wasn't a couple of things like that so that's why voted for him because because those are the issues that matter to me but I had my lots of reservations about his character and stuff. So could you see why someone would vote for him because of those scout issues.

No I couldn't because one thing I don't know of the word, what might you talk about what it was for it not the word of God. They pointed out, you will make it about a board like that. Did the word of God bait. She'll pick up on those are no tells us to rescue those who are perishing that you don't and those for Eric Bell. None of those are being taken… Or just to be clear you. You could not vote for Barack Obama. Hillary Clinton correct people that vote All people that brought it all the people that the people that okay big babies and babies and worms need help babysitter being slaughtered black babies, white babies, Hispanics, babies, other babies, so I just want to be clear, you did not vote for Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton correct okay so insert this is to be 100% hypocritical adjustments rate with 100% hypocritical the question how I could vote for Donald Trump is unconcerned about 60 million 60 million so I said again 60 million babies slaughtered in the room. 60 million unconcerned by the black genocide.

I'm concerned about extraordinarily high percentages of black babies being aborted in the low decimating the African-American population unconcerned about that.

I grieved over the larger effects this has on mothers on fathers on families on life itself. Because of that, that's the main reason that I voted for Donald Trump and you say how can you be a Christian vote from when you voted for people to stand for the shedding of the blood of the unborn, sir. That's grossly hypocritical if you said I could vote for any candidate fine. I could accept that. I honor that. But to me it's grossly hypocritical to question how a Christian how a Christian could vote for Donald Trump.

How how about marriage this matter, the definition of marriage.

This matter I think it matters if the Supreme Court was out of its mind to redefine marriage went completely beyond it's it's God ordained or American or Dan River. Look at parameters that matters to me. I'm glad that someone will push back against that despite his radical Islam matter how important is that if you say look, I could see voting for him, but I take strong issue with him anyways. Well, it lets me I take strong issue with Pres. Trump in many ways, but I voted for him these important reasons and is not disappointed me in those reasons the things I was concerned about. Yeah, he has.

He has continued to do the things I hoped he would do, and he's done the things I was afraid he would do good, the bad one. Pres. Obama's is God bless Planned Parenthood was guilty of of mass murder babies in the womb.

God bless Planned Parenthood what, when, when Hillary Clinton says quote fundamental religious views must change in regards to abortion peoples of the quote was taken out of context.

The larger context scares all people in America for good reason. When she made clear she was not a friend of our religious liberties believe all those present at all by the way, I also believe that the welfare system is hurt poor Americans. One help them that Walter there are people we deftly to help that some say Democrats won us the slaves they want our bodies. Now they want our votes. That's what some black leaders who said on my show just to say that this this does this kind of rhetoric that that's that's what bothers me.

That's what bothers you judge and hypocritical way that that was bothers it is a Dr. Brown with all respect, I can see how you could vote for Donald Trump and here's why. Could vote without properly click great. I respect that. Fine. Understand, but don't say you voted for those who support abortion support gay marriage in his other things and then tell me I'm hypocritical is a Christian dose or no. 866-34-TRUTH. Let's go to Gail in Greensboro welcomes the line of fire by Dr. Brown.

Hey yeah I disagree with you on about one for Donald Trump and I'll tell you why all don't do this or that. I will explain that just because Donald Trump is pro-life and I am pro-life but I also believe that if there is a lull that that you can have an abortion and you have the right relationship with God through Jesus that took all the love that you can do it doesn't make you do it the same thing about drinking gold of the law that you can buy alcohol if you're not drinking alcohol because of your faith of your belief that love doesn't make you doing Donald Trollope to me had so much growing up to do in the Lord our local printer of bothers are but Donald Trump is still best communities to meet and I would never go out. I'm glad the system we just ask you this. I didn't know that he was a Christian when I voted for him.

I assumed he wasn't okay. I hope he is better so we agree very early stages, but can I ask you questions you think we should have speed limits about graduate work that out. Let me tell you about speed limit at the Macon MSA, 5 mph yeah, all right, and you go all 35 Amazon 135 got in my heart I really do not want to hurt someone. I am I doing 35 got. I know I get caught by the law and out now. Consequently, most of us are right we the only but how would you agree that the speed limits are good, they save a lot of lives, not what I believe Abingdon romantic belt of the heart of what the Spirit told him now. I hate I hate to interrupt will give you maximum time but but I'm not a time and as the phone lines lit up coming tomorrow you keep the discussion going tomorrow to answer the question whether the relationship between evangelicals and Donald Trump is been a match made in heaven, or marriage with help somewhere in between. But let me just get the, the last working here I I appreciate the idea of going to change hearts. Of course, but will work on changing hearts. We have laws without laws there to protect people got laws against human trafficking. We've got laws against murder. We got laws against breaking and entering got laws against segregation. We got all kinds of laws. I'm glad we have speed limits by rely on the condition of someone's heart. Read while driving I did, I'd stay off the road. This was going to kill every minute and to be perfectly honest the reason I drive by the speed limit is because the laws because I think many times I could go faster. Be perfectly safe. But I do it because of the laws and that's the way it's set up that's what we have these in place and we vote accordingly. All right.

Continue the discussion tomorrow