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All right, just one quick word from my heart before we go to your calls today it's it's a holiday season and just like Thanksgiving time Christmas time as well.

There's a tremendous amount of travel. As you know some of you are going to be hitting the road and be flying to be driving just want to encourage you to travel safely.

A lot of people on the road a lot of people driving through the nights and things like that so travel safely and in doing this family season time down a little bit get to see more family members make it count. Maybe there's someone you've neglected. Maybe there someone that needs a hug from you. Maybe you you just take one of her grandkids around each other all the time. It's a good time to be thankful for family, for friends and to let them know that you love them all right 866-34-TRUTH we go to Stephen in Orlando. Thanks for calling on fire run. I got good good.

I called a couple weeks ago regarding a similar question and you about whether or not the Septuagint with complete the Old Testament by the time of Christ, and I was getting into the outer missionary work and he had a couple or 2020. If I get tell you on and if you can comment on this is just just just explain to make sure he was with us the testing so the Septuagint of course is the. The Greek translation of the Old Testament, the Hebrew Bible into Greek by Greek Jewish scholars done primarily in an Alexandria a number of different hands involved and aside from some views and some kind missionary circles universally understood to have been completed maybe because around 300 years before the time Jesus completed 200 years, 150 years before, but pretty well universally agreed among Septuagint scholars, but you'll find some conflicting rabbinic traditions. This is just the first five books were translated before the time of Jesus. And that was done supernaturally. The 72 rabbis are coming to the same translation at the same time. So that's recognized by the Jewish community, but the rest is not an some of this actually Christian in origin, so that would be the argument of some countermeasures.

Okay, so what what sources did you find that that they be using the house that it was five, the letter dated and the book by Josephus and anything that the early church father think her own confirmed in his book, went to bed about it. Just being the first five books that was turned over to the early church. So again another professor in there at poker them.

I never yet so different. First, the first thing is first thing is that the tumbling sources anything in the Talmud that's been quoted is hundreds of years after the New Testament okay terms of that. The final compilation of the Talmud to the Babylonian Talmud or the Jerusalem Talmud. This is several hundred years after the New Testament so sources there, even though some early traditions are preserved. Your time is something way way way later, and that the letter of Everest is another one of these things that we we know in terms of this idea that the five books were translated supernaturally and all all these different people have the same translation same time, Septuagint scholars will tell you that first. We all know there are imperfections and errors or miss translations or free interpretations that don't really work that well so is good translation as it is it's it's far from smarter perfect.

That's the first thing the second thing is that in terms of the. The all being translated by the same people, with all coming up with the exact same words this other thing we know for fact that there were different translators involved those you can tell Septuagint scholars can tell this this booklet was just a hypothetically Genesis was done by one scholar and Exodus by Luke is a different translation scout styles or the will take a certain word translated differently at different times so again, what you have is is this assortment of varied ancient traditions which are massively overwhelmed by everything else that that we know now as far as the, the Josephus quote you have that exact quote in front of you ordered your own quote I don't have a credit would iniquity of the Jews of the accused and then Jerome dance antiquities and securities of the Jews yet.

Okay. And then Jerome ultimately confirmed it and no I get yet the book if I don't know yet yet so if these are the sources being misunderstood or misread. But the fact that that's all that they come up with Talmud which is much later and you have to realize because the Christians use the Septuagint. There can be polemics against it.

In fact, subsequent to the Septuagint. There were translations that were done by non-Christian Jews like a cola Theodosia and some of his. There were other translations made to compete with the Septuagint because it was so widely used by the church. The other thing is we know that the New Testament authors quote from it, that's another thing that that we can tell when they're doing their own translation and when they're quoting from the Septuagint, so all the evidence we have on every front, says an annual scholarship that we have other ancient traditions preserved. Even the other books that are part of the Septuagint. For example, Maccabees or Ecclesiasticus of things is that we we know that those are Inc. test mental books and those were part of it as well and in the early church leaders use the Septuagint as the Balzer was ultimately translated so the fact that that's all they can come up with is is basically telling it's a slamdunk in the opposite direction and all you have to do is look at respected scholars. So if if you want to get maybe the most asked respected Jewish scholar of the Septuagint today. Look up a manual told TOV manual told work is work. I met the other thing is go online to the Jewish encyclopedia right Jewish encyclopedia.com.

It's like 100 years old but is a very very important scholarly work by top Jewish scholars of the day and it's free online and enter search for Septuagint. There are Bible translation and they'll separate myth from fact there as well. Okay okay yeah and if if I can get my eyes on the the alleged quotes that you be reference that you're referencing. If I get my eyes on those is off the top my head. I don't and on the which the referring to. During a break all all references later in the show. All right, Steve, thanks for calling 866-34-TRUTH of your friend Reese in New Brunswick, Canada. Welcome to light a fire. Doing well thank you I was looking for your debate with Dr. Hernandez the other day and I have one question about second Samuel chapter 16 verse 10 with the issue. Mia okay Charles wondering really fleshed out in the in the debate, but he did bring in about 1.0 just wondering what your viewers on the does say perhaps the Lord said to him, cursing David and I also reminded me of the Lord. Anything and evil spirits of Saul ended up with a heart to calm him down to assuage her yet. I'm just wondering what your thoughts were on that is so we were debating whom did Christ die did Jesus die only for the elect where Jesus died for the whole world and in the midst of it. He brought up some predestination sovereignty of God arguments which you might say were germane but really were not the focus of the top of me not debating Calvinism as a whole, but that more specific subject and end of that was something I was like in a press in a deep way just because it was not germane to the to the main topic. Even though Calvinists relate them all together so when when shimmy I is cursing David and and David says since of cerulean so Joe I've been and his brothers do we agree on anything. He curses me this way because the Lord told Chris David. Therefore, who can say why did you do that. So the first thing is, is it possible that God sometimes moves on people to do certain things and you don't like them, but you say hey God moved on him. Fine yeah who would argue that God's God, let him do whatever he wants to do the fact though that you only have it said here and there, would indicate that all the other times people were just as in those there are plenty of other things happen in the life of David when he responded negatively and killed somebody already responded negatively and said no unacceptable so the fact that in this case, he was to say hey if God told the curse me government has been fine. But what happens later. What's the end story of him before David dies, he tells Solomon you make sure he pays for what he did and and Solomon sets it up. You use your safe if you stay here you cross this line and you dine across the line was and was killed. So David ultimately held responsible if you could just as well, several of God told him to do it and it wasn't responsible for it then then why punish them because I was, he was responsible. So David may have just been speaking there in terms of more of a hypothetical look, God's only curse me, let him curse me, I'm just except was coming away right now and I'm not trying to fight but ultimately he holds them responsible for what he did. So if I want to be a strict just interpret what's in the Bible and not go beyond that.

Right then I would have to say the vast majority of the time. This is not what's happening. God is not saying I want you to curse this woman and you to do this and I know that your planning going left, but I want you to write and I know you were planning on driving to DC, but instead I want you to fly to Maryland and intervening.

You have to say that the vast majority were making choices and that every so often, God overrides our choices, etc. which he can override whatever he wants with everyone sees God but because he's given us choice and free will again to me with all respect it to Mike to my Calvinist friends and obviously when I'm asked about Calvinism and was listen to the show but my views are explained when not a Calvinist, but then tell them hey watch my debate with Dr. James White. So here someone present that side.

Well my symbol on them and sort it out for yourself so obviously there be a spokesman for Calvinism that I would recommend instead of Dr. Hernandez and of course, tragically, he's trapped in that mindset that if you are not a strict Calvinist saves that that's what my heart was out to him the most. Yet his therefore there arguments that can be brought than that one for sure. Thanks for calling Sir six website if you haven't listened to debate asked Dr. Brown.org you got posted on filename. The line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the minor fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH dear again is Dr. Michael Brown, I was challenged by some associates of Dr. Dale tugging for the Trinitarian now Unitarian saying that the father alone is God written on that his website focusing on that. They reached out to me in an challenged me or offered me the opportunity to debate our Kentucky when I fly.

This is such a place and do a set of a lot of the time justifying just for that and do it but glad to debate Pierce is a great great will fly him in will find the character will do the whole thing. So these folks are really really zealous to do this meager sure will be a formidable debating upon but I'm really eager to open up the Scripture and in particular to well to show that of the father alone is not God that there is one goblin got only, and we know him. His father, son and Spirit and will see which were we going to debate in terms of what we focus on Princess January 11 gobbling January 11 in Concorde hosted fire churches right by the Charlotte motor Speedway so put on your calendar will announce it again week January 11 I believe will be seven at night. Obviously I regard his position as heretical because it is a denial of the son he just looks at Jesus as a glorified man somebody that is is a very wrong heretical position so the stakes are high in the debate, but God is the judge of his soul, and every individual soul with that position is the position that we reject as heretical because it is a denial of of the preexistence of Jesus. Jesus being the son of God and eternal way.

Jesus being truly divine, so serious issues. Obviously, 866342 of us go to Michael somewhere in North Carolina. Welcome to the line of fire.

Dr. Brown I think that right Michael. Michael and I don't North Carolina great other.

Thank you for thank you for taking my call real quick here. I given the wrong reference Michael initially but my question regarding Noah and am when no one had. I get that drink wine got drunk and comes in powder naked. No one end up cursing not and I like it.

Your thoughts on at my I'm reading the tree of life version.

It was Genesis 924 there is a blessing in 2027 right so why doesn't he curse him directly what is he curse his son. There are varied ideas on it, but it's the obvious question to ask, because otherwise he directly blesses his his sons, and of course it out for expansion in future. So first there is the question of what actually happened and in the text. It's it says that Ham saw his father's nakedness and came out and told his brothers and they walked in backwards is Noah planted a vineyard and then got drunk so they walk in backwards and cover him so as not to expose nakedness, but we know, for example, from the laws in Leviticus 18 that the uncovering nakedness, committing sexual activity was actually so their rabbinic traditions that that some say that he castrated him and some say that he sodomized him. And there are scholars to the state who believe that the text indicates that that there was something that went on sexually between son and father. Hence no was shocking rage.

Hence, the brothers, acting the way that that they acted in covering him and covering his shame.

So the it to me. The only thing within the text is that there was some violation of Noah in some way by his son Ham and therefore Noah curses Ham son Canaan that it was just kind of a tit-for-tat thing a reap what you sow with the sun violates the father the very least, shames him. Season naked goes out and tells about a dozen guys drunk and naked in there. That's a very least the very most, the committed some kind of foul act on his own father and therefore the sun violates the father and Noah says as a result, your son is going to be cursed. That would be the most logical deduction to get from it. Why that particular son.

Those are the questions I was really fascinating theory from an Orthodox rabbi. It was absently fascinating but once I walked away from them. I didn't know what his source was for and I forgot the details of itself.

If I can ever recover it. I'll tell you what was is interesting when I hers, far-fetched but interesting. But yet again, you just try to look at what's actually there. That's only logic that I get out of it so that's that's what we have; consider and think about the thank you so much for sure thing. You are very welcome. 866-34-TRUTH let me just say this and by the way, if you been trying to get through and and have a hard time just open up a couple phone lines now so now is a great time to call you call right now I'm must guarantee that will be able to get your call before the before the show was out of the top of the hour, 866-348-7884 okay one thing I just want to mention about Bible scholarship. Many times when you learn the Hebrew, the Greek, the cultural background of the contemporary literature that sheds light on things like that explains I could never understand this passage now.

When I got the historical background to it by now it makes sense often that happens often. There's a translation dispute and you can dig a little deeper and, now I can make sense of that but there a lot of other things that we study and learn and we don't we don't have much more information is within the text you see a brother like later Jewish traditions later Christian traditions. There are but many times those later traditions are just traditions. In other words, they are not based on history that not based on truth and not based on fact, it said maybe someone was teaching about or talking about it and kind of added a little bit, you know, embellish the story Olivia whatever and then you can go on from there and someone else to inherent and then before you know it.

This is disliked a big story which people think is real.

So a lot of the traditions we have there just based on embellish stories so many things you look at scholarship and and we can really give teachers the backgrounds explains it, but many others.

It's like you know we don't know this is a good explanation, but during the same Bible.

I am we don't have exterior information that fills us in 866-34-TRUTH. Let's go to Ryan in Illinois. Welcome Sir to the line of fire around Michael, you're welcome my question about the ending of Mark, and I understand your own position correctly. I've only heard you refer to it happening on your program but I believe that what you that you believe that the longer version that we have market, not the original version written by Mark but that he believed that the ending we have it inspired that correct yes. Again, I am not dogmatic on it but just begin to alert or other folks that may not be familiar, so if if you're reading your Bible you're familiar with Mark gospel of Mark ending in Mark chapter 16 verse 20 but you may see in a footnote to your Bible that it says this is found in later manuscripts and the earliest maestros ends in Mark 1680 and you read Mark 1686 and it's obviously not the last for the market and ended their and there we go from 8 to 9.

Those don't seem congruent. There seems to be a shift there.

So the question is do we have the original ending of Mark. Or do we have a later ending that was added on. That's not inspire authoritative so I believe clearly by syntax and by vocabulary that we don't have the original ending of Mark. But I do believe we have true words of Jesus preserved and then in the providence of God. This is what he is given us as the end of Mark and it was widely attested in early church witnessing in early translations and things like that but again I'm not dogmatic over it and when I quote from the end of Mark 16 elusive courses from the longer ending of Mark, and then do my best to substantiate every point that's made their with another witness elsewhere from Scripture that was well mostly meant my question. I just had never heard anybody.

Not the original but it fired during public work that I can use reference to sort of let out that reasoning about why would be not the original but it yeah well you know that the famous the famous work on it is was by King James only scholar Dean version 1BURGO and made mispronounce the last name Dean TAN's that was titled in verse on the bird on BU RG oh and so he's going to argue it from the viewpoint of this is the original ending of Mark, so I don't agree with that and other scholars of different with him but you'll see the. The early evidence for and the fact that we have it in virtually all of our Bibles. To me, is this providential so why do I say that I believe that these are inspired words that that God providentially is given us is the end of Mark 11 reason is the early receptivity of it. How widely used.

It is not universally but in many different early sources. That's one thing. The other thing is in and this is subjective. Okay. That's why semiautomatic on it bears witness with me based on the rest of the testimony of Scripture that the Jesus I know through the Gospels and the work of the spirit that I see in acts that this is very much in harmony with that, as opposed to when you read the apocryphal apocryphal gospels of super graphical Gospels, and you read these works is like the Eric. This is like a whole different book in a whole different Jesus and one thing that that the substance of reality and the other the feel of myth, so this to me is the same Jesus that are familiar with elsewhere in Scripture not being said I got saved in the church will reread that as Scripture you know II heard early on about the dispute subbing use to it since my early days as a believer, but I was really quoted as words of Jesus, but always qualify as us from the longer ending of Mark and again not dogmatic on that but leaving the emergence of this beautiful argument and then you can recover the other side and sifted out. I will be right back with your calls by the Expo line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown your voice and more cultural and spiritual revolution.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown thank you friends for the line of fire 634. Truth is the recall, you've got questions, we've got answers my joy to be with you. 30 minutes ago. I said something I want to say it again. Now all of you that you to be on the road may be doing extra driving during the holiday season, or maybe just run home with a lot of other drivers on the road, drive carefully, safely. Life is more than precious and don't take one another for granite. It's a special time of the year the people you love them, let people know they're important to you live in such a way today that you have no regrets tomorrow.

All right, 86634 I been working on some major book projects. A friend of mine last night sent me an Notes and Mike have you seen this article was about 11-year-old boy becoming a famous drag queen now dancing in some gay bar, etc. in severe write about it yet that I was working, so the book projects if I need to I need to write on this need to write so little article last night.

It's it's taken off quite quickly. It's pretty intense, pretty intense, but parents especially go read this read this so it's called when the boy in drag danced at the gay bar in the gay community did not protest. You can find it a one semester to Brown.org or it's up at the stream and elsewhere. All right, let us go to perm I was going to Birmingham.

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Let's go to Simon in Michigan walking to the line of fire. Dr. Brown thank you for my call. I want to know.

I am actually Pakistani Christian.

I was raised and born there and I came to US. Years ago I been calling you Dr. James why David will and you know all of you guys are fighting it actually makes me you know open up the Bible and read the word of God.

I actually have one and ask you two questions. A few of you know, you have just let me just say this are our hearts are heavy over the real challenges that Pakistani Christians have the inequalities the unit we hear just here and there. The terrible stories and you all should be being. This is what she's gone through and but I think we don't have that opportunity.

There I want to leave the goal of two young brother being sent it under blossoming because they associate something online and Debbie Benton that you and then alleging Jesus is in the community. I mean, obviously many good jobs withheld some of the rural areas, just that the low-level work that Christians are left with you maintain your faith, which is to know that's very heroic but like any village, someone could just accuse you of blasphemy. Mohammed did our work in the speaking is the Koran and next thing is a crowding builder since the death or killed so we understand a lot of challenges there and and we appreciate the witness of the Christian community in the midst of the challenge.

So God bless you and glad to have you here in America with us. I think I prepare that I've been you know I clicked thinking one piping in the debate you mentioned your current DQ that you know glory and on the second Temple glory.

What would be greater than the you know and Glenda Lord will and felt like that you know Kathleen you talk about it if you're good, you know I'm give me some reference about it and you soon, that and if you if you have after that of few moments I will expert you know even hear a pastor you not listen to them that you know a thing like actually good time God the Trinity is actually 11 just one like you know Jesus as the father and do.

You know what I'm saying no like to see if I can address both quickly so first search we make some we make a threefold argument that the Messiah had to come before the second Temple was destroyed based on Daniel nine. Special verses 24 through 1027 Daniel 924, 27, indicating that everlasting atonement had to be made before the second Temple was destroyed that that the anointed one would be cut off and that there would be atonement made for Israel lasting atonement invoicing righteous burden before the second Temple was destroyed. That's that's the first thing then we go to Haggai.

The second chapter is that Ezekiel's Haggai the second chapter and we see in verse nine that God's is the glory of the latter house will be greater than the glory of the former house. So when the second Temple was built that was lacking many things that have the ark of the covenant didn't have the 10 Commandments didn't have the fire falling from heaven as the others.

I didn't have the divine presence. How then was the glory of the second Temple grave of Gore the first, which of course Messiah himself came work miracles there and since the spirit there at Pentecost and then lastly, Malachi 3 beginning verse one Malachi 3, beginning in verse one says that the Lord himself will visit that temple.

So that's where we make that threefold argument that the Messiah had to come before the second Temple was destroyed as as for the idea that oneness Pentecostal teaching that Jesus is the father-son spirit or when Jesus is baptizing them in the name of the father son and Spirit so the name of the fathers in spirit's thesis that would be the argument. It breaks down in verse after verse after verse after verse.

It breaks down in verses like John 17 verse five were Jesus said, father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world existed where you've got father and son enjoying the glory together we you have explicit statements in Philippians 2 where is where's the sun didn't think it robbery to be equal with God, but humbles himself so you you've got in there as the chapter goes on that. Every knee bows to Jesus, to the glory of the father. This is not the same person or them in verse after verse. In a passage like John XV chapter. For example, verse 26 when the counselor comes the one will send you from the father, the spirit of truth who proceeds from father. He will testify about me is just gibberish. If it's all the same person and this Windows ascends this way and it's all the same person was like putting on a different costume so that's an obscure view one. There is one God and one God only. This universal testimony Scripture this one God is known to us as father-son and Spirit hate God bless you Simon's grace be with you and family may still have an Pakistan 86634 let's go to Dallas, Texas. Kevin welcome to the line of fire. My call to Christmas everybody. And after that: sorry for the question I have, but it's not so much for me, but others that aren't going to express my opinion to about Scripture to many churches today are teaching that, and rightfully so there's no need to do any work is know you could do that can earn you salvation, but I do see a difference of once you are saved, that you're supposed to be a transformed person and do the will of God. There were too many Institute in the New Testament of work based Scripture. I would like to know your opinion about whether or not to get different and not being required to do works or acute to the Lord to be saved. Mostly once you become a steady motion on the part of the body yes so there's two fundamentally different ways of looking at things.

One is that I must through good works achieve salvation. So if I do bad I have to do more good to make up for, and God will not accept me until I'm good enough and I basically work my way into heaven. That's an extreme form of legalism and that some Christians become a habit in the back of their heads right it look even even religious Jew is not thinking in this crass terms like that because the relying on God's help and mercy as well. But that's that. The first thing that extreme view and then you have an extreme view.

On the other side which is because salvation is a gift of God's grace I don't have to do anything worse. In point of fact, the entire New Testament has hundreds and hundreds of of commands calling us to do to respond. So first thing is, required to believe we yes will.

Faith is not an act of faith is not were okay. We agree with that but we are required to believe.

We don't believe if we don't put our trust in the Lord were lost. That's the someone number two.

The New Testament emphasis I could I could quote from Matthew to Revelation.

On this is repent and believe. So repentance is not a work either. Repentance is turning to God with his helps in God have mercy on me a sinner saved me, cleanse me, wash me, so the simple truths. Is this that salvation saves what is salvation is a just forgiveness of sins. Now salvation is that we go from serving Satan to serving God that we go from darkness to light. So what does Paul say ask the 26 chapter and verse 20 what is he say he said I preached that people should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds. As James is more used to say the only proof of the new birth is the new life for Jacob James and in the second chapter of the book says show me your faith by your works.

As always, if you are legitimately saved, then you will live a different life.

So throughout the New Testament we are called on to put to death the deeds of the flesh to consider ourselves dead to sin and alive to God and on and on and on, to leave everything and follow Jesus.

So we do not do these works in order to be saved we do these works as proof and demonstration of our salvation. We do these works just just like in the old days of travel before we had cell phones and Internet that you eat beef, traveling overseas on a boat and then you tell your relative okay send me a postcard from France from England when you arrive there right and they would send you the card you know so weeks later you get it and it's postmark. From there, like okay they got there.

So that's the proof that they arrived a new life, a transformed life is the proof.

Second Timothy 219 says this, the God knows those who are his. And let everyone who calls on the name of the Lord depart from iniquity. Matthew 721 that everyone who says to me Lord Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only those who do the will of my father so I can tell any person. If you're truly following Jesus demonstrated by change life if you say no to the Lordship of Jesus walking willful persistence in question really know the more that all my book hyper grace, hyper grace deals with this issue a lot thanks Kevin recall it's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 6643 here again is Dr. Michael Brown. All right, we are right back in here because it started in enterprise organ William welcome to light a fire, dark brown very well, thank you all. Sure thing I'd like to hear your thoughts on make a point. But first Corinthians 11 three yeah where we point out that Christ is the head of every man, and I think that every not to me but then that it singled out man is also interesting to me and it's kind of the preamble before Paul's teaching on the Lord's supper. What are your thoughts right so in intrusive head. It has to do with authorities that is not saying that every man on the planet knows Jesus or has relationship to Jesus or anything like that is dealing with with authority.

So, just as the, the, the husband is is the head of the home which also puts in a position to serve and lay down his life for his wife. But in the same way that there is just in terms of an authority structure that Jesus is over the everyman and then by the way, the Greek word for man and woman can also mean husband and wife so you have to than as you go through the passage sort out executive were so for example complete Jewish Bible reads but I want you to understand is the head of every man is the Messiah and the head of the wife is her husband and have the Messiah is God, so that is is husband and wife but there's no notion here of every man being in a relationship with Jesus. There was that he's the head of the body and that were partner. He's the head of this is the body of Christ whether he is the authority over humanity is all that's being said there so in light of the further down the list of the teaching.

There were eat. For this reason are weak and sick among you, and some of honestly earning the body of Christ" but I know you know what I'm talking about is about when we take communion.

Number one when you take communion. That's the first thing when you take communion that you're not recognizing the elements there stands for his body and his blood in your is pigging out eating all the food and get drunk soon.

I probably discerning that no were partaking in the body and blood of the Lord by faith that is the physical elements but spiritually so that's that's one thing and you can even say that you're not rightly recognizing your brothers and sisters by being greedy and selfish like that and that's discerning the body of Christ. But that's contextually that's all it say you think that sounds like the length same language used in the Exodus, when across the Red Sea and there were no rights on the truck failure points the what I mean. The notion that Christ is the head of every man in any manner where all it's great right it is the implication that the man was out as a single. He displaces Christ.

If you are sincerely great right fishing possesses home his physical has not talked about space and Jesus was talking about or write so so if you try to make an argument that I'm not accepting you hundred I can help you but I don't accept it so you won't miss if I can.

I was hoping to conduct expressed logically in the pre-to pick apart right every word should be judged. What would my mother let me just say this.

Give me 30 seconds.

The essence of your position. I believe that the body of Christ is illegal and I think when it says that Christ is the head of every man, it means that there back right away or man to recognize him as Lord over Skeeter and Eric unit that it would benefit the Lord's supper.yes if so, just in candor. That's hundred percent bogus from beginning to end and zero relationship to anything in the Bible any text anywhere and in candor I'm unlocking to take time to parse it and break it down anymore that I'm gonna take time if you said you just got back from from Mars and with you was Elvis Presley. I'd say about you not think you use them helps her so I'm just dismayed can only be nasty but I own my big thing is I don't want to waste or this this time. Interviewers time not have time for the calls is bogus on every level. There's nothing zero in the text to support you gotta turn it upside down and read a million things into it. So I would encourage you.

It seems like a pet peeve to get off that and to realize why nobody believes that the I can find a solid commentator teacher put in the body by the Lord to help us. That would ever accept anything like the unknown enemy to be rude.

I don't mean to insult, but I quickly realized what what you're pushing is is very bogus and that's why wanted to get to the root of it, so if you feel it needs time then sit down the local pastor with a humble heart and sociable arm wrong.

If you argue your point there some some wrong. There so may the Lord help you. 866340 that's good Alex in Houston, Texas. Welcome to the line of fire Mike McCall. Yes sir I swear I appreciate your looking all time really encouraging and convicting him to come at you in our efficient or prone towards Bertha, and I thank you for your support. Much appreciated.

Thank you Mike looking Catholic couple called up McGuckin Bello may be a little more nuanced than you might just look through versus first on 513 and Matthew 21 I get the question of trying to figure out how we can be no Christian concern were going to have in my work, but like certainly have eternal life, and do not worry about hearing the words to get to heaven for Matthew seven were at the yeah so the first thing is if you really want to serve the Lord you really want to honor God.

Jesus said whoever comes to me and I can cast away and the fact you have that desire in your heart.

God's put their because you can't manufacture it yourself in the Lord also said no one can come to the father and in less I draw him more than we can come to me.

Excuse me, was the father who sent me draw him so if someone has in the heartland. I really want to serve you really want to please you really want to live for you.

God put that in your home and and that's something sacred to start, but I think the way we need to look at it is, is this when you were in the hospital because you're desperately sick and you're barely eating and you can barely move and then you make a sudden and rapid amazing recovery what you do you get out of your bed and you get out of the hospital and you come home and you go about your business right because you are healthy the same way because you are born again you live a different life. And if you're not living a different life.

You know when someone says you have been following Jesus for 10 years and there is not any evidence whatsoever of a relationship with God over the conviction of sin, of a changed life of anything whatsoever.

You have to then probe what's actually going on here so it's not a matter either. It's it's it's like this one. Years back when I was a young man is my 20s I got pneumonia got hit with with bacterial and viral ammonia the same time was really sickening and I got touch may have to be in the house like 10 days is misery I got.

I knew I was going to be touched.

I was healed and and I got up I was right, intravenous, and I was just walking back and forth in the hallway and the doctor came through his you're too well the be here get out here so the fruit of being healed was I was up and walking them in with that the whole of the New Testament is now commanding us to follow to obey.

Don't touch anything unclean. He's now giving us guidance of how to do it so if if every command I see in the New Testament.

My responses now all you can question whether I know the Lord there anyway. Obviously I'm in rebellion either. I've never known him on rebelling against it if if my heart is Lord, I want to serve you and do your will. This can be difference.

John Wesley said before he was born again, he was always overcome by sin. Now he was overcoming there was a change in life.

So again it's not a matter of doing the works to earn your salvation, it's doing the works as a fruit of salvation. It's both approval or for numbers fruit grows naturally. So if I am going to get it is the tree producing fruit to prove that it's an apple tree or orange tree producing fruit because that's what a healthy tree does and that's it.

So these these words these warnings, the sex rotations.

This is what God uses to speak to us in that sorts these things out the laws and helps us Jesus and his sheep will follow as was posted as many as are led by the spirit there, the sons of God. So the spirit working on us will guide us. He gives us a new heart and a new life and it will be evident now we are struggling in our battles and ups and downs until we see the Lord. We understand it, but we will be different people. We will be born again people. If there's no evidence of new birth in someone's life. I would seriously question whether they know the Lord. Hey Alex, thanks again for your support really do appreciate that 86634 and to what we got cut off with Courtney in Birmingham, Alabama. If you cast your question really quickly go for celiac how I feel about it, meaning, and in regard to being a celiac of the father yeah so that the Hebrew word Shelley is his assent wanted to be equivalent to apostle in Greek, and from the rich a loss to send someone sent on a mission and emissary would be the best way to render it and then you have those that these religious Jews around the world from one particular group of closely seem distant different plural of it, you know, there these emissaries that are sent out but certainly are you sure is surely sent by the father. He is the father's ambassador and there are many things that he carries out as their best and sends us to be his ambassador. So yes, he is the father's emissary sent into the world to represent the father. And then he sends us represent him. So says they receive either this is to see the father pay have less Christmas if I don't know if you live ramming events on the air on Facebook unless you