Dr. Brown Answers Your Jewish Questions

It's time for the line of fire with your host activist and author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH. That's 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown welcome welcome shalom shalom. It is our first thoroughly Jewish Thursday of 2019. So welcome to the broadcast excited to be with you today on this first thoroughly Jewish Thursday of the brand-new year what I'm going to do today is take questions that I solicited earlier in the week on Facebook. Jewish related questions that I solicited on Facebook so I won't be taking calls today. I know you but what you folks opportunity you can call in or that it's easier to post their questions so we do that periodically. So we got some fascinating questions that were going to address. By the way, I saw a new story earlier in the week that the abortion rate in Israel has has dropped in half what was in years before. Now I have not been able to dig down into this or try to understand better the sociological reasons for but I do find it of interest because the society as a whole is very liberal and there is not a strong pro-life movement in Israel the way there is in America and the believer is messianic Jewish believers that are strongly pro-life.

There, a tiny tiny tiny minority in the nation and you have that the very traditional part of the society which is not going to be pro-abortion and their growing in numbers and they have large families is that part of it is it people waiting longer to start families and when you think that would increase abortion of it is just interesting to see. Of course any positive trend is good to hear, but I've not been able to fully understand all of the reasons for this.

Just wanted to report it to you. Alright, so don't don't post questions on Facebook now no reason to call.

I'm just can answer the questions that were posted here, let's eat Adam Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox Christians have often said their worship services are based on Jewish first century Christian worship you find this to be the case if so, why are you not Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox. Thank you.

Quite so what Roman Catholic services and Eastern Orthodox services would be borrowing from would be some of the synagogue, chanting that's not necessarily the same tune, or style, but there would be certain words of prayer that would be chanted in services words of Scripture that would be chanted and then certain traditions that may go back to first century Christian worship that are reflected in Roman Catholic resource services now their other branches of Christianity on the Protestant side say Presbyterian or Lutheran that will incorporate some liturgy in their service, not necessarily chanted her son, but some liturgy of the Lord's prayer will often be sung and that would reflect first century Christian customs as well that there would be certain words of Scripture or key teachings of Jesus of prayer that were recited in the services or chanted as far as we know, but the reason that I'm not Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox has to do with number one I don't find the Roman Catholic teacher, Eastern Orthodox teaching as in harmony with Scripture as Protestant/messianic Jewish teaching.

That's one thing. The second thing is my big issue is the traditions that have been added the additional teachings the additional emphases the additional doctrines with which I do not agree based on Scripture that the second thing.

And thirdly I am charismatic, which means that the biggest thing for me that I'm looking for in a worship service. Aside from Jesus being exalted in in word and in song.

The biggest I'm looking for in a worship service is the moving of the Holy Spirit. The gifts of the Holy Spirit be manifest the ability for people to worship in spirit and in truth and that I find more in harmony with a charismatic Sir Sophia charismatic service that also had some liturgy. You might say that was even closer the first century, but my reason for not be Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox has to do with the larger differences over traditions added and doctrines with which I differ based on Scripture.

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This how can we substantiate the traditional authorship of the Torah and this Jewish tradition make the methods Jewish apologists would use different than one's we would use. So how can we substantiate that Moses wrote the Pentateuch that Moses is the author of the five books of Moses now let me start here by saying that even conservative Christians and religious Jews will recognize that there were some parts of the tour that may have been added later, but were equally inspired now and ultra-Orthodox Stuart or a thoroughly traditional Jew will say that God dictated the five books of Moses to Moses and therefore he could write about his own death at the end of third Jeremy 34. Or he could write retrospectively in Genesis 12.

The Canaanite was then the land even though when Moses was writing the Canaanite was in the you expect the person writing the words the Canaanite was then the land to have lived centuries after. When the Canaanites were exiled thing or driven out to kill Satan about when Canaanites were then in the land so it would seem odd that Moses wrote those words, apologists have often said that there may be a few words here and there that were added by later editors but those are equally inspired, but that everything else written by Moses. A traditional Jew would say that God dictated the Pentateuch to Moses.

So he wrote it down by dictation, and therefore it can even talk about his own death. So the difference is in B minor in terms of what traditional Christians and traditional Jews believe about the authorship of the Pentateuch one thing every last word they're saying almost every last word. How can we prove Moses wrote with Highly prudent. I know use the word substantiate which is which is a good word to use, but we actually prove it.

The only actually prove it was to demonstrate through documentary and archaeological evidence that this man Moses lived when he supposed to live right. That's first thing and there were documents from his own hand that survived to this day. The other thing that would point in that direction would be ancient documents preserved from around that time. Talk about how Moses wrote all these books that we now have these these books the scrolls. These things on tablets that we have that would be pointing strongly in that direction to Ashley prove it is a that's probably why should be troubling.

Can you prove that Abraham existed did with the Bible says they can improve a logical fire from heaven. No. And can you prove that that the jail house shook. When Paul and Silas renewing our video evidence of it, but we've come to know God is trustworthy in his word and stress were trustworthy. So were good with that. Now can we disprove the arguments that Moses didn't write yes I believe there solid arguments against the rejection of Mosaic authorship and Jewish apologists and Christian apologists have used similar approaches. Some different, a famous German Jewish scholar Ben Oyama Cove looks like Ben or Jacob if you see prevent Jacob or famous Italian Jewish scholar Roberto Cassuto.

They took on was called the documentary hypothesis that there were four different authors, one called the J the E the D the P and they they wrote at a different time to repair centuries and all centuries after Moses and and and someone else put the whole thing. Together, and and they refuted that the end and some of their approach was similar. Christians, I would just say that that often Christian scholars and Jewish scholars approach the sacred texts in a similar but different way and that's the same thing you'll find in their quote doing the work of apologists Joshua, it seems more likely to me that Moses ought to have the preeminence in the construction of the tour, rather than current assumptions by source criticism that I just mentioned that JE PD. These four different sources that go by that name. Many things in history relating to God are centered in a single individual who fills the point about Joshua, I agree with your point. In other words, we don't have joint knowledge and ancient body of literature be at Hammurabi's law code, be it the, the legend of King ^ be at the Mesopotamian flood account for Numa alias the creation account or any of that. The famous ancient documents were another one of praise to Marduk called Ludlow which is the opening word the Kadian or or Egyptian literature, folk literature or Egyptian stories of the problems suffering whenever the ancient literature is to my knowledge, we don't have any of those ancient classics from the ancient Eastern world that were composed over many centuries by different authors living in completely different settings within weave the whole thing together.

And, like the bit of a hodgepodge because according to the critics. Jay didn't essentially know what he wrote or P is contradicting this and D comes in here now this little joke here and and I want to commend to explain it because otherwise it will make sense right in Hebrew, Moses is called Mosher a banner so rubbing our rabbi or teacher, Moses, our teacher, Mosher Rubino, so Moshe and then are rubbing a lot of critical scholars said you have the J source sees that the Jehovah Yahweh name you have the E source used Elohim Ella hist. That's the source you have the D source that was the girl in ionic school with the dramatic reforms and you have the peaceful is the priestly and edits mainly from who knows, maybe from like 10 century to the fourth century or something like that so hundreds of years in the mid-thousand years after Moses and then they said you have the our source whose are the redactor, the editor, so the fancy name for Natalie, redactor, the our source and he put the whole thing together so you try to see the J right. This did he write this to direct this the P right this know this is our put altogether.

There's a traditional Jews and say yes we believe in the our source Mosher Rubino Rubino art teacher, Moses is the our source is the real author of it so if you decide on is the word you just said don't sweat it. The simple point is that when you look at some of the history of the great literature or the literature of the Greek literature of the Iliad and Odyssey and things like that you don't find multiple authors over period of a thousand years, leading him to get a totally different accounts within someone puts together as a whole is not the way these things are composed, so it makes sense at least each book a time enjoyment. The five books that someone wrote Genesis and Subaru Exodus is a posted several different people putting it together so we can't prove that Moses wrote the Pentateuch, but I believe we can be of good evidence to the antiquity of the Pentateuch, and that it logically traces back to him.

Even if there aren't some additions and supplements along the way. By later authors as spies. Moses would have written in the first place right to be right back with her thoroughly questions on this thoroughly today broadcast.

Don't go anywhere with it some more fascinating questions on Facebook. The line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown. Your voice is more cultural and spiritual revolution there again is Dr. Michael Brown, welcome back to our early Jewish Thursday broadcast as we are in the first week of 2009 teen by the way, if you think of it, or to if you enjoy Italian food anytime in the next four days.

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If you enjoy music you don't want to miss a single broadcast next week, let alone if you're a real worshiper music lover wrote worship leader, songwriter, musician you on a single broadcast next week. Okay I'm going back to questions that you previously posted on Facebook so I'm not soliciting questions now. These are your thoroughly Jewish Thursday questions posted on Facebook or its can you get and do review of the book the scholastics and the Jews by Edmund J.

Mazza possible possibly could but just to be candid with you.

I probably have between three and 4000 books in my library and that on e-book that I haven't read that I want to read. Maybe that's a low number. If I add in Al Hayat. If I start adding in books. I haven't software and things like that for 5000 books.

More than I that I own that I've ordered that I've only read in part only glimpsed and are used for reference and I I'd like to read more and every week. Friends of mine colleagues or other folks, pastors, leaders, academics, teachers, preachers, they reach out to me and they send me articles. Can I please read this and get back to them that sometimes several day are often during the week. I'll get requests Dr. Brown or Mike if the gnomic kit. Can you please take a look at my book. I got a brand-new book coming out in six months. I'd love if you write an endorsement for us so all all that to say that I'm unable to just grab a book get it, read it, review it because I mastered MS numerous times every week when I think of this book where I think of that so if I'm to have any semblance of life where I'm I'm studying and learning and writing and growing and helping others. Then I have to be able to get through material that's important there, so it may be a tremendously important book. It may be a book.

I love it may be a book I deeply differ with and maybe I'll be able look at it one day, but just to say this is not because I don't take your request seriously. It's just understand that we get a lot of requests and and thousands of requests, so I love to comply with everyone's is not time to do so right Ernie, what basis the biblical basis. The replacement theologians take how can they come up with this notion that God is finished with Israel or the promises that God gave to Israel now applied to the church for all the promises that God gave to the nation are only for Phil and Jesus, how they come up with that. Well, forget motivation. Let's not talk about why it happens.

Let's not look at negative reasons that happens.

First let's let's look at positive reasons, positive reasons leading to error positive reasons would be well. The whole purpose of Israel go. Choosing Israel and and Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and 12 tribes in the history of Israel is all for the Messiah to come to the world and for there to be a people to receive him and make him known celebrities come into the world all everything before Israel everything now culminates in Jesus when you talk about like causing Lance's were appearing a heavenly stuff to talk about that anymore and and and it is really old millennial kingdom in Jesus ring from personal. It's all transcendent. Now it's not Jerusalem it's not despise the heavenly city and and the New Testament takes the promises of God gave to Israel know you that the people walking in darkness have seen a great light eating and in you are not my people would be like people. Now let us apply to the Gentiles and the Gentiles become the spiritual is the Gentiles become spiritual do so. Jews like everyone else can join in with Jesus and believe within the national promises and in the fig tree was cursed and that was a symbol of Israel. The temple was destroyed, as they would be rebuilt so so God's judge the nation with the promises were made that some of the logic behind on the negative side there's the insecurity of if, God brings the natural branches, backgammon, Gentile was that leave me right so Paul warns against the Romans 11th chapter and clauses explicitly in Romans 15 with the Messiah coming into the world, confirms the promises to the patriots doesn't cancel very fact that we Jews continue to exist and that we been scattered around the world is God said it brought back to the land is God said even in our unbelief that the fact that were here means that the national purposes remain otherwise we would have been destroyed and wiped out centuries ago.

We we would no longer exist on the face of the earth is definable discernible recognizable people. So we have all the proof we need in that regard that God is continue preserve us in many, many verses say that you say, but is there salvation only through Jesus. Yes yes salvation only for you shall absolutely only through Jesus. Jews not automatically say because the Jews know more accountable for more accountable pulses in Romans to a Mrs. name is three. This is a theme too much is given much is required. Absolutely salvation is only found in Jesus Jewish does not guarantee anyone salvation. No. And even if, as I believe there will be a national attorney of the Jewish people at the end of the age. That doesn't guarantee salvation for Jewish people of Jewish person alive today. Jewish people died outside the Lord in centuries past. However, God made promises to preserve us even outside of faith. He's done that he made promises to scatters to the nations, and to bring us back. He's done that so that's why I say he keeps his promises even when we are outside of the faith outside of faith in Jesus, but there are replacement theologians who have a a good motivation for their teaching and and believe that the church is the spiritual Israel and that everything is now been brought into a heavenly realm in Jesus and to talk about earthly things is to drag everything back. This simply misunderstanding of God's faithfulness. God keeps his word.

But at the product braces spiritual racism talking to sort that's all it all right in as this. What is known of the reasons why the Qumran community Dead Sea Scrolls community separated from the Judaism of the time was a dispute regarding calendar was a part of it. Okay let me rephrase this they did not separate from the Judaism of the time they were one expression of Judaism of the time and they separated from other expressions of Judaism at the time so I'm sure you know that but for the sake of those that would miss that nuance in your question I want to point that out. There have been books written by Jacob Newsnight.

Others talk about Judaism's first century Judaism's is that accurate were there different Judaism's then just like there are Judaism's today is reform and conservative and Orthodox.

This reconstructionist in ultra-Orthodox there is specific or you consider different Christianity's today as Roman Catholicism and Eastern orthodoxy in Protestantism, Baptists and Assemblies of God and Presbyterians of or or those different types of Christianity, different types of Judaism so you can argue about the terminology brought the presumably the Essenes who were the inhabitants of the Qumran community they separated from the Temple establishment and there is different reasons for their separation. One is they felt the temple leadership was corrupt and therefore in protest from the impurity of the temple.

They withdrew into their own community that's that's one view another.

Is there particular rituals of cleanliness, ritual immersion separation, the way they lived.

They live that in community separate from the pollution of the rest of the Jewish world as they sought and yeah and on that expert on calendrical issues but there were definitely between the different Jewish groups of the day, some differences in terms of calendar and these are pretty deep differences look you might think how petty is that I note churches that split over coffee hour you were Ira, I remember being part of the congregation for the late 70s into the early 80s and we have Sunday school for adults and children and we would have a time like for coffee and fellowship and in service and there was an we were going to move and I was a coffee drinker, but was time to hang out with and there was a proposal to move the coffee hour think a little earlier or something 15 minutes earlier and it was a congregational meeting.

We were that that was the way the carnation was run the ultimate decisions would be combinational than the leaders were carried out this hot dispute got passionate back and forth then and if someone commented of knowing a passion like this on issues that matter so to this day you have slits like this are armor when I was in NYU and I was taking an Arabic class is 1/3 year Arabic class and it was a small class B, six, seven of us in the class and there was a Sudanese Muslim and then to Americans that they were black Americans erupt like most of their traditional Muslims. There were black Americans and the Sudanese Muslim treatment and someone from Africa to from the states and during our class. It ran for Mike for the afternoon to 625 member, it fell during prayer time, which meant they had to go with their mats and get up and go out to another room and pray and come back into the class is the time that it say different.

I think that's that was out of the class was well anyway two of them went on at one time and the other one out and another, forget how it divided because they were from two different Muslim sects and Williamson feels like church for fruit so you have the same kind of divisions in ancient Judaism, except they get real deep in the one group of Jesus with them. The other decision is safe pretty pretty intense. I will be back with more of your Facebook questions thoroughly Jewish the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH dear again is Dr. Michael Brown broadcast Michael Brown. Thanks so much for joining us. I decided today to answer questions that were posted on Facebook earlier in the weeks and will post now I'm grabbing these questions and answering them fascinating, interesting questions, as mentioned one thing if you are a traditional Jew and you meet another Jewish person or distant different parts of his rhythmic customer, among other Jews is a Schiller Melissa Schiller Melissa so shalom peace will be a bit here.

This means greetings, but Schiller Melissa others have meaning to you plural soon you're talking one person no social Melissa peace to you, but shall Melissa peace to you plural because this the common corporate understanding and idiom. So that's what he said shall Melissa which is means greetings, but is literally peace upon you and the person then responds less comfortable. So if some assist to show Malec on you said back to them shall Melissa come. That means you're not familiar with the desiderata you reverse it. You say upon you peace. So Monica molluscum shalom right so greetings greetings okay now in the Muslim world you do the exact same thing except it's pronounced different Salama Lake this exact same words shall Melissa come in and hubris formally come in Arabic exact same words and and again if someone says to Salama Lake, you Salama Lake 11 engineer unfamiliar with it. Bay City Islam Lincoln's. I like him so this is it was I got to do the less guilty that of me right on Christian radio network okay. Dale asked this some 9511.

This is often translate with a hard negative but seems to be rather conditional. Shall they enter my rest, the Septuagint seems to keep the sense also Hebrews 3 to 4 seems to make most sense of this oath is conditional is this faithfully translated, they shall not enter my rest yet so I understand the basis of the question okay so God is speaking here, but the children of Israel, and how they send and harden your heart than any he urge them not to, and then gave this promise finish body Val P, of whom, concerning whom I swore in my anger emu vote. Women almond nicotine so if I translated literally without understanding idiom.

I translate I swore my anger if they will enter my rest, but is not conditional.

It's not conditional, and by the way, I'm not sure the, the Septuagint reads conditionally either slick and English translation of the Septuagint same thing. They shall not enter into my rest. That's also I understand, and he was three and four God said you won't enter so hubris and don't follow the fall in their footsteps. The reason it's conditional and hubris. It's an idiom it's idiomatic usage.

God say I I swore if they would answer another was II sword is no way you're going to enter.

That's what he swore to know you if you get socket to happen so hence they will not enter as I'm looking at different translations of a swore my anger, that they would not enter my rest in my anger took an oath, they will never enter my place of rest. They will never enter through the resting place of set aside for them.

Yeah, that's, that's certainly what's being said. Now if I go over the Hebrews. The third chapter where this is quoted were Psalm 95 is quoted saying, don't harden your heart and were given warnings from Psalm 95 this verse seven there for as those processed. If you're his voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion. On the day of testing the wilderness for your father's test to be tried in his followers for years.

Therefore, I was provoked with the generations that they always go astray in their hearts, and they have not know my way so swore in my anger, they will not enter my rest.

That's that's the meaning of it. There he was three. He was for as well so it's just understanding the particular Hebrew idiom Dale okay let's see Ben as I was reading the end of Luke two yesterday morning. A couple of questions emerge. First, why is there purification mentioned in verse 22 when only Mary required purification so Luke chapter 2 verse 22 of when the time of their purification came all why does it say that I would understand something, because there are a couple is a good question.

What is the time of her purification about their couple experiences together. Remember, they have to abstain from sexual relations. During that time and here he is with their accompanying her at the temple so it's it's it's just like when a husband says it's in there with his wife and he tells you he were pregnant right were Fretwell, Sir hey I hate to break it to you but she's pregnant you're not pregnant work couple where braille where we are.

We are having a baby right for the she's having nowhere having a big so in the same way here that that's that's on understand. I wouldn't read much into it. Luke seems to conflate the purification offering and the redemption of the firstborn.

Why both Simon and Anna we see the work of the Holy Spirit is a routine occurrence during the time this traditionally seen as a time to board of his of his work with this more common.

The second Temple. And we've been led to believe. Finally, as seems to be living in the temple. Is this the case and was this normal for a profit. Profit this. Thanks. Okay, let me come back to the question about the purification offering and the redemption of the firstborn, but what we understand is that the moving of the spirit on Simeon and Anna. Anna is a sign of the in breaking of the messianic kingdom the messianic era in the book of acts, Luke speaks of the spirit.

About 66 zero times and in you see right from Luke one when Miriam Mary asked the angel Gabriel. How what's gonna happen how Mike, giving birth to the son of God.

He says the Holy Spirit will come on you to Ralph early on.

There's an emphasis there in the Holy Spirit right to the end of of the gospel of Luke and in the ties into what falls in acts so this is not a time of the spirit. So these unusual things are happening, there's there's stirring this prophecy going on in ways that was not common now there there are many Jewish sources. You can pile up. That was say that that during this time prophecy was rare or didn't exist and that it had not there not been a spirit of prophecy in Israel for several centuries, so it is, there is a mountain of traditional sources that argue that, but I've also seen amount of other sources say that prophecy continued. So there is debate in the traditional Jewish sources, but for sure this was not just the kind of thing happening every day. Simeon was waiting for the consolation of Israel is waiting for the Messiah ballroom. This happen so now the Holy Spirit is moving speaking this is heaven.

That is its increased activity for sure and then Anna living in the temple. No, I don't know that this was normal.

It seems to be made is something exceptional that she just gave herself to fasting and to prayer as as to Luke's narrative here is is he conflating the two things I'm not read it like that. So verse 22 in the days of the purification according to the law of Moses were finished, they brought him up to Jerusalem to present them to the Lord, just as is written in the law of the Lord after every firstborn there will be dedicated to the Lord and to offer sacrifice.

I look at is the data purification over and is the redemption of the firstborn, and there they're going up to the temple for these things, so it could either be data purification over that's taken care of and now this or everything done it one of the same time so you consider some conflation there or it could be just me and I have every detail of how everything was carried out. Honestly, I'm really examine that closely didn't present a problem to me if if I dig a little deeper and come up with something I think is worthwhile. I will let you know. Okay, let's see.

Dan Ben Shapiro, self-proclaimed Orthodox debases the timely teachings about when life begins in the womb are outdated and scientifically inaccurate and still be considered an Orthodox Jew will reject in a timely teachings about when life begins in the womb, that sounds more reformed Orthodox to me.

Okay I haven't heard him talk about this all a just take your word that this is what he says. Number one, he's not ultra-Orthodox is modern Orthodox, so modern Orthodox would be just a drop more or somewhat more liberal than ultra-Orthodox. In their view of Talmud in their lifestyle and their mindset, etc. so that's one thing that he might have a view that is more informed by modern science than ultra-Orthodox to in the most ultra-Orthodox Jews in the study with modern science has to say about this and save them on science has that wrong. You know the time is right.

So that's one possibility. On the other hand, it's possible that word traditions are being referred to. So I'm just talking broadly that are just nose folklore. In other words, not everything in the Talmud is thus saith the Lord. There are many many opinions recorded in the tub. There are many ideas in the Talmud that are just ideas of the day that a traditional Jew is not necessarily bound by, so what are those beliefs and how is that sorted out that's that's another issue. So I would have to examine all of the laws in question to which Ben was referring according to and I would have to see are these binding or not there is massive liturgical response to literature tens of thousands of volumes of this may be hundreds of thousands of volumes where traditional rabbis answered questions put to them by other rabbis or by members of the community. What about this what about this what about this or traditions.

Is this the losses this as it applied to today, and these have been written for centuries fact, they go back on some level thousand years as questions and disputes came up, so that's what us to be examined and there are tons of them that are medical and okay how is this medical science comport with what we learn here.

Haven't decided traditions work out here so it could be better just as reflective of Ben being a modern Orthodox Jews opposed ultra-Orthodox Jew or it could be that these are the types of things that's that. It is traditional Jew is not bound by because there were just opinions of the day because of which other of the decisions can now be made for the law was based on this understanding, we don't accept that understanding anymore scientifically, but we still hold to the law because that's our tradition. That's another possible course of let's see draft time here. Okay, how about about this one very important question.

How do Jews make a cup of coffee. That's one of the questions posted. I was the fun well to answers number one, like everybody else. Number two on the wrong person to ask is I don't drink coffee.

So there you have it and Kenneth or the Jew still actively looking for the ark of the covenant. If so it's it's a minority of minority of minority minority and they have not actively look for the covenant. Over the centuries. That is nothing Jewish proceeds as there are Jews pursuing his tiny tiny range for interested archaeologists something like that.

Nothing that tradition he's looking or thinking about her activity anyway. All right will get the more of your questions. The line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown voice aboard cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown thanks for joining us on our first their leaders Thursday broadcast of the new year of not taking your calls with their leaders questions but I am answering your Facebook question.

So let's see Matt wanted Jewish people do sacrifices like before when they stop how this is a tone for what I'm sacrificing about rest this question constantly is a good question first with the Temple destroyed sacrifice scampi offer gift of the temple sanctuary that the appointed place in point WITHOUT that you can offer sacrifices we Jews do for atonement. They believe that prayer takes the place of sacrifice that suffering takes the place of sacrifice that repentance is the biggest thing that God is always look for the charity takes the place of sacrifice of the absence of sacrifice they have is of me as though I agree with that. No, no, I write about extensively in volume 2 of answering Jewish objections to Jesus.

I don't agree with that but that's a traditional point of view on the holy apostles have any kids that are mentioned in extra-biblical writings is from Easter.

Not that I know of, but I'm absolutely not expert on this but I don't know if it bursts overhead children, you assume that because of references to wives of the apostles that the Peter makes amino mentions Peter's mother-in-law subpoenas married and things like that but as a record of their children and their spoken of subsequently nothing aware, but if so, I just going to of that source.

A Brenda or all the purses in the blood of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, fruit from Israel. No, no, and that's that's what's fascinating effect. Matthew really mushy to get that clearly he really goes out of his way. Make sure you hear this so you have Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Judah Perez and Sarah and then of Perez fathers has wrong is wrong. Rahm Ahram amended in an optional nosh and some on some of father Boaz by Rahab. Rahab, she was a harlot from Jericho, Rahab is not interested and then Boaz bothered old bed by Ruth to get Ruth the Moabitess, so you got these two women here, one of whom avail repute right and then Ruth and then evaluate this is not some non-Israelite that she was Israelite Jesse frolicking David and David fathered solid by Uriah's wife while he's digging in any year that this came out of adultery is not something that the adulterous relationship and then David marries Bessie Raftery as her husband kill so it's it really is leading up to Mary Mary who is going to be reproached because he or she is a woman and she conceived supernaturally and she's gonna be reports of moral that's something wrong and and here you get three significant women, two of whom are not Israelite Rahab and Ruth very very interesting. All right, let's let's let's go over to Melanie. What are Jews in general refused to read Isaiah 53 in particular and use logic are they programs have cognitive dissonance. I see lots of responses there will Melanie did you read Isaiah 53 is the first thing when if a traditional Jewish witness to the Bible date they read it and it's quoted many times in traditional literature is just not rating the weekly synagogue reading is some of the questions are that you have 52 read in your 54 red was 53 skipped intentionally could be some believe it was skipped because it was you so much by Jewish believers to an end by the Christian world to point to Jesus being the Messiah that it was dropped intentionally from the synagogues of the same note was never read specifically as it is a reading in the synagogue is not all, of the Bible is read each week, each year, synagogue five books of Moses on other selections, but traditional Jew reading it believes it refers to the nation of Israel the righteous in his room and what's interesting is I talked to traditional rabbi very sister God we have a great relationship if her in any city near each other will come to see me and we did in Australia. We did it in in the and in Toronto recent Canada and so we got a great relationship open and candid with one another and he said to me he read Isaiah 53, over and over and over and over and could not see how we could apply to Jesus and cannot possibly see how we can question Jesus serious while on this think you can see it but rejected and that I can't see it so it's is reading it through a different lens. There say were reading it wrong. I sit there reading it wrong. Of course we are very, very strong arguments to support our view, they say no to look at in context with the whole thing and Israel's discernment in Israel suffering at the hands of the nations of the nations thinks is guilty and got consulted through the end and get out of agree, but as I cognitive dissonance is just reading it differently, you grow up reading something is certainly your whole life and also present something else to be very hard to see it differently is their spiritual blindness. I believe so, yes, I believe that this avail is stopping them from seeing it plainly, which is why I reason I also pray and I would think that a traditional Jew tells me I'm missing something they met on the unblinded but I'm missing something spiritual you have to think so arrives I would believe as they believe all.

Let's see, Chris MSN if you practice old covenant customs loving guilty of the Judaizing hearse. Of course course.

Of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, absolutely. Who says to get rid of everything that came before Jesus in Matthew 13 that they describe in the kingdom would would think I was treasury things all things new.

Sure, for example. For example, how how about 10 Commandments prohibition of worshiping idolatry as per the Sinai covenant to be abandoned that honor your parents not committing adultery and where just tell me where in the New Testament says we should observe the seventh day Sabbath and Jewish believers can observe a seven day Sabbath wasn't written this and Paul writes to the Corinthian's wrist with his five let us celebrate the feast of Passover. He may mean that metaphorically may mean it literally. Certainly Jewish believers celebrate the feast of Passover.

There's no such thing as a separate holiday called Easter. They began to celebrate the death and resurrection of Jesus within that time.

Passover. So why not what's what some juices are supposed to take a later Christian traditions. Why would that be better now Judaizing which is a word that the Jewish teachers don't like but it's meant as someone who tells others you have to become Jewish and you have to observe the law of Moses to be said that that would be what you tell a Gentile that you have to follow Moses be circumcised or be saved and have to live like a juvenile nisei that would be Julia's were telling a Jewish believer that your Jewish identity is the most important thing is supposed your identity in Jesus is the most important thing for Julie was a Jew called churches. At first within seven he says if if you recall many call to salvation circumcised altar, circumcised. If you recall the uncircumcised opium circumcised pretty clear as Amy Ivan Amish related question about okay, I posted a photo about with ultra-Orthodox Jews and Facebook to see if it would usually question just as with the graphic people see it in postal smile.

Amy.the messianic Jews believe the doctrine of the Trinity.

Yes, now there are some there'd be considered friends who deny God's tri-unity regards complex unity as I like to call it, and they may not all express the doctrine of Trinity in traditional Christian terms, or use the words of Nicene Creed or the Athanasian Creed or things like that they they may not do that. But do they believe that God is one. Yes, these complexes unity. Yes, the father is God the son is God, that the spirit is God yes now that there there is a minority, very small minority messages that deny this but the great majority hold to this they'll just express things differently, often in a traditional Christian expression of let's see you please address of the things the past. Dr. John Higbee said about the Jewish people and salvation of first am thrilled that Esther Higbee is a friend of the Jewish people that he honors Israel that he calls the church to honor Israel and and pray for Israel that he has stayed with Israel in many ways and is sensitive to the needs of Israel today is rally churches around the world against replacement theology and against anti-Jewish sentiment. I think it's wonderful. I commend him for that. He has made some very unfortunate statements about Israel and salvation. For example, that Jesus did not come as the Messiah is creating a Christ met Messiah or in some cases indicating that Jews could be saved by keeping the Sinai covenant's. Of course it's dead wrong in knowing to be saved is by keeping the Sinai covenant. We always knew that the messianic hope but when I asked Mr. Haley face-to-face in the presence of several of the leaders Jews need Jesus to be saved.

He said yes.

He denied that he held true to covenant theology, salvation produced through Sinai covenant and salvation for Gentiles to the cross. He denied that he held to that very finally and said 1/3. Traditional Jews at his service on a Sunday morning he preached Jesus just the same in his right hand man, who was it a Jewish man not a believer told me over the phone. Years ago that he said all he tells me all the time. I need to get saved because note, need to believe Eddie said with a smile as we are talking on the phone.

That's what he told it so I'm disturbed by certain things. The pastor Higbee said or wrote. But when I interacted with him. He plainly definitively said Jews need Jesus to be safe so I will repeat what he said at pastor John Higley skews the Jesus to be say this is what he told me and I can claim these necklaces on so that's on the program.

To that effect.

I've seen other quotes that are troubled me, but I just know when I asked for clarification. That's what he said and no actually I'm out of time there was a Seventh-day Adventist question, but the second question by the same person. So I got to answer everybody's questions. At least one white friends tomorrow regular journey over into the world where really interesting question is a wide range of subjects, so he blessed the Civil War