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I've no idea what you want talk about but welcome to light a fire run. I am blessed and I'm doing great thank you about the word translation question about the word of our group and 2260 yes sir.

So I can have a two-part question though. First, I know of counter missionary article in Hebrew and not found Bible in the second part would be about the demand from the dead girl that has the question whether it's about, or a unit for the word I was. I was also told that no father and a good are interchangeable on and actually two other places on the thing where you it would look like the file but it's actually totally.

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I am happy to clarify this first thing I need to do. I'm just pulling up a few things on my screen here with the first thing I need to do is explain your questions so that everyone else can understand right so in Psalm 22 verse 16 and you'll sometimes find a verse difference between the Hebrew and English the.

The primary manuscripts. Domestic manuscripts read, Maria dive wrote rug life which should be like a lie in my hands and my feet so something's missing. There it that makes no sense. Like a lion. My hands and my feet and the dogs have surrounded me and Aviva people, even people to camp around me like a lion.

My hands and my feet's is a verb that's clearly missing so some of the rabbinic commentators suggest that the missing verb is a line they tear at my hands and feet something like that that could work, but something's missing.

There grammatically something's missing, so the commentaries explain like a lie there doing something to my hands and feet.

The reason there's contention over this is most English translations done by Christians will read they pierced my hands and Frank and it really does speak strikingly of the Psalm about the crucifixion is very vivid. Strength is dried up like a clay pot. My tongue cleaves to my joy as you lay me in the dust of death for dogs astronomy band of evildoers is closed in on the they pierced my hands and my feet. I can count all my bones. They stare they gave me they divide my close among them, and cast lots for my garment very very vivid description of crucifixion, the issue of course would be that number one that's of the Hebrew says. And, of course. Crucifixion was unknown in ancient Israel and David say from what we can tell. So if he was actually speaking of that, with the psalmist. Speaking of that, that would be a striking prophecy were told by counter missionary rabbis that Christians have read something into the text.

It's not there and come up with crucifixion when it's not there will is totally bogus, totally bogus. This is an entirely Jewish textual issue only so even if it said like a lion. My hands and my feet something is missing verbally that must be supplied so like a line there tearing up my hands and feet. That would also be a very vivid picture of crucifixion and having once hands and feet, torn with nails, but the oldest translation of the of the Hebrew Bible, the Septuagint and in the Septuagint of the Psalms roughly 200 years before the time of Jesus that translates with they they pierced her. They bore through my hands and feet so that is a Jewish translation that says someone number two. The vast majority of Dead Sea Scrolls scrolls scholars, even though we all recognize there's a small difference between a good and evolve and I was just looking at that the text the other day I was looking at the Dead Sea Scrolls to examine this again.

The most likely reading this car route. So, without an olive but Carew which would mean to dig or bore through which again would be very striking in terms of crucifixion imagery that were told there is no such word as, a room with an olive so cough all of ration vault. The problem is that there are a number of Masoretic manuscripts mid-evil macerated manuscripts that read, a roof cough. All of ration vault.

I examine this again the other day because someone raise this question and said this one counter missionary Rabbi so there's no such word is called a room in the history of Hebrew etc. and the different Hebrew scholar say no.

Here's what we believe we see the router here is respectively through but the fact is there are at least 1/2 dozen if not more Masoretic manuscripts that recall our room.

I looked at it myself. I looked at the listing just the other day and in the compilation of of Kennecott so all that to say that this is an entirely Jewish issue. Christians are just dealing with the Jewish text.

If it says like a lion. My hands and feet and means like a lion tearing at my hands and feet which would be a good image crucifixion if it should be read Carew. They dug through they bore through the Septuagint, the Jewish Septuagint attest to that.

The Dead Sea Scrolls that's the best reading and understanding attest to it. There are Masoretic manuscripts that read Carew coughed ration evolve and there are Masoretic manuscripts that recall all route cough. All of ration above with supposed or presumed similar meaning. So the fact is, there is an excellent case that can be made for they pierced.

They dug through my hands and feet based entirely on internal Jewish sources. Nothing external. Nothing Christian about it and it's it's what I write out in volume 3 of answering Jewish objections to Jesus. I just rechecked every reference in a study the things decades ago rechecked every reference. What will I wrote is accurate. The sources are accurate. The manuscripts are just what we said they are so all right you got it 866-34-TRUTH.

Let's go to Ted in Ohio. I'm keeping my word, Ted. I said if you got through to us yesterday that we put to the front of the line. So here you are. Thanks for calling back.

Salah Michael operated a brother, you got it. My question is questioning the validity of the New Testament, I would carry Israelite with me. We only believe in the Old Testament will not. It appears to me that the New Testament writers did the same thing that those dramatist are those that believe in all-out.

They took something in a panic themselves. And it all and started being that it and made it look like it's part of the Jewish Scriptures which I beg to differ. Totally contradict the not to to ask you first had we raised care. I know her. I was raised in a apostolic Pentecostal church okay and then you converted to Judaism and then became Carol.

I was a different journey know it was a thank you. All right that I study Orthodox Judaism and okay the fallacy in the development and the omission okay all those books to the fallacy that O'Malley added to the I chose Carol right in line and what what gave you the assurance that the Tanakh itself Hebrew Bible itself was authoritative or did you never question that I studied it and studied the archaeological factor in the fact they deleted for believing in God.

And in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth and I came to conclusion that there is a God, if there is an Army have to have a way to communicate with mankind by pretty much stayed at everybody agrees on a theological circles as part of the big three religion, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all agree that Tanakh is the is true and it is the basics of this great model.religion. So I started out there, but I think you know pose questions to the Tanakh and make sure that is true, just like a study anything I want to make sure that it is a true book and everything that I've studied in research so far it appeared to be that a true and accurate source right so I is much as I have appreciation for some of the beauty of many traditions and recognize how God is worth. Ruben conditions to help preserve the Jewish people through history. I'm much more with you in terms of being a Carol I that the authority is the Hebrew Scripture and not the later rabbinic tradition. So unless I was utterly convinced that Jesus was the prophesied Messiah of the Hebrew Scriptures, and that I could demonstrate that you without a New Testament II wouldn't believe what I believe it in fact if you think of it Ted. The very first followers of Yeshua their Bible was the Tanakh they they didn't have a New Testament for many decades after that, that certain federal traditions of the teachings of Jesus that circulated other things. So that's the real question and you would have to agree that if Jesus is the Messiah prophesied in the Hebrew Scriptures, then you should follow him. And if it's something later that people read into it. That's not true that I shouldn't follow. We would agree with that.

So we got a break since we come back up all I'll explain why. I'm convinced that this is so, what will get interactive it, but thank you sir I appreciate the journey or on and will will have a good dialogue about a state to transfer the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown friends.

Who is Michael Brown 866 the questions we've got answers so Ted you've obviously been thinking about this over the years. How can I help you maybe is a key question. Maybe this resource I can send you how can I best help you to reconsider the Messiah ship Jesus based on the Hebrew Bible, what would help me to baby it will set up a time where you and I can debate this matter are discussed this matter for you know what I'm allowed to take our whatever another show you're listed all of you listen to them or heard you the Medicare I but I must say I heard you debate Rabbi Toby a finger in and and you you want to debate, but in my opinion when his debate.

I think you can win a debate with Andy Orthodox Jew because because of that, to the town and all all is there week.

I noticed that their old all again spell enactment.

We but I don't believe in Allah's attention. Here's the thing, just to be fair okay okay and and I'm I'm this I get asked to debate day and night is as you can imagine, so the thing that I fair right thing to be fair is to set up the time to be able to do it. So my Skype is is would you agree that to be fair to Carol Heights. You want a qualified representative of carrots to do the debate we can agree with that knows what. Let's just say, hypothetically, that that represent yes I would say that you like so muddy that represent the truth of it right so so here is my point.

You.

You may be actually brilliant.

You may be great debater you may know Tanakh inside out in the Hebrew perfectly, so I'm not I'm not saying this despite the let's just say that you need to know Hebrew well right that that you want your debating let's just say I must say this would happen that I completely trust you and they carrots like that that wouldn't be fair to Carol Heights. Just like if I wasn't a good representative of my faith in you crushed me then it would be fair to propose some of my face so that's the key thing if you are qualified representative and recognize but I Carol right says as a leader or scholar with was joy other than interaction with a new carrot believer in her brilliant, brilliant, very devout carrot that's come to faith in Yeshua and in and in recent years, which is been a delight, but here here's the thing to do than Ted right the media to just send an email address yes I can to do that okay it's real simple info INI file info and ask Dr. Brown.org info that's at ask ask a DR Brown.org all right okay just want it now. Yeah, sure thing that info that's INF and although I got that he had asked Dr. Brown ask a DR Brown.org all right. And all I need you to do is just shoot shooting email Ted said that we we go to Carol right. We talked talked on the air about doing debate and just list of Fiori credentials background carrot leadership anything like that and then my assistant Dylan will will follow up from there. So I just I just do this.

To be fair because I get asked to debate people constantly note I was in my time is limited. Just like yours is and II can only debate folks who are legitimate spokespeople for their community was was a proof so Brown demolished the guy or the guy demolished Brown was approved.

If neither of us are legitimate representatives recognize scholars recognize leaders in our community about beer joint and just Scripture we just look at our only book that we use is the Hebrew Bible.

That's what we use that's that's in who was the Messiah. According to the Hebrew Scriptures met with with absolute joy if the credentials backyard. So follow through on that Ted and that's her general email, but it'll it'll get to my assistant, Dylan based on the content Hill. Talk with me about follow-through. I cub us meant thanks for persevering to get through to the broadcast 866-34-TRUTH.

Let us go to know we won't go there. Let's go the Arundel Oregon welcomes the line of fire. Dr. Brown thanks her. All I have a question that arose from Facebook debate and Judy either that I think you on regular basis. Get back to the Hebrew nine and now it could not anything that unclean according to the Volkswagen. Could you confirm or deny update on your knowledge of Hebrew you cut out at what point. At one point I would use the same on those who repeat what the contention is so they were saying that now was not allowed anything that would unclean, according to law and its right to refer back to the Hebrew text to prove that point in question is where every living yeah so what in the world could they possibly argue so. So I'm look at the Hebrew the fear and dread of you will be on all that the beast of the field and all the birds of the sky. Everything that creeps on on the ground and all that the fish of the sea of government.

Your hands so that human beings have power over the entire created world.

Everything creeps and in different times.

Everything is alive, it's for you for food. Just like the new that the herbs I've given you now give me all this I mean that the Hebrews utterly unambiguously broad and just if you can eat the flesh with blood in it etc. but I don't see any ambiguity here at all, and you're sure they're saying that based on the Hebrew of Genesis 9 is one thing, I think the point. Genesis 7 where God tells Noah to take animals clean and not clean it doesn't use the later terminology of the towers first clean and unclean uses clean and not clean little bit different Hebrew and it would indicate animals that were suitable for sacrifice, and those that weren't a but now here it's quite broad. Anything that moves you can eat. That's unambiguous and I just read straight from the Hebrew looking at TLV fear interview will be on every wild animal on the refined creature describes the calls on the ground of all the fish. The center hander given recall anything that is alive will be food for you is are the green plants have not given you everything on the flesh with its life. This is what you must not eat so okay thank you word indicated out of qualified meant everything that was qualified by one of the word to theater for food or for creature is also the only the only thing it's it's the word reminisce okay and I and which is literally creeping things, moving things so wasn't wasn't saying every joy he was assaying every animal fits in that category all or only a certain class, even if the citizen classes nothing to do with clean and unclean. According to the Torah speak because their animals according to the Torah the Creek on the ground that you could meet and others that crept on the ground you could leave, so there's nothing in the Hebrew here that would tie in with later with medical juvenile knowledge prescriptions again restrictions against eating certain foods. That's that's bogus if if thank you very much. Dr. Brown got you are you are very welcome. God bless 866-34-TRUTH I am, taking sides captive to the word right affiliation. I verse John, where in India are you calling from calling from her little elderly man yes okay it does limit flooded with calls that came up as India all right personnel in the Brazil Indiana will I just learned there's a Brazil Indiana all right what somebody not much man just this Colin Hammond just let you know. I pray for you and I am very blessed by your ministry faster. So my question was regarding the Scripture you know mom I work late, late days and late nights on the Shauna you know polish up on my apologetics and be about and speak into truth, and so on. You notice Collier every so often get answers to things that bother me, but what you question question is about the word Scripture and as Paul uses it in second Timothy what letters he entailed what Intel's what he uses as Scripture, like all Scripture lie what is that word actually mean like an out. How does a demon. Is it just the Old Testament in context or in none of the other that Collins asked, writing in context because you did not have all the parts of the New Testament clearly in place and recognized as Scripture that as he uses the term he's referring back to the Hebrew Bible okay is referring back to the what we would call the Old Testament, that's for sure. The statement that he makes, then applies to rethink his recognize the Scripture so second Peter, now you've got some of the writings of Paul ready have been established and recognized for second Peter talks about people twisting the Scriptures twisting Paul's writing as they do the other Scriptures and thereby speaking of the writings of Paul Scripture, swelling, and some the words of Jesus, then get spoken of the Scripture, but initially some of the Old Testament revival that's Scripture. Then as more more is recognized as God's will that we have the New Testament, the same statement implies that these writings alone are uniquely dog breed. The Bible Scripture.

First, the Old Testament, then he was well. Thanks buddy.

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I'm am me. I can't think of you like no you I like the allies and out one another like him… About Alberto know if Dr. Brown five that no anything out of her… Updated RV no there anybody out there can know the mantle and are going to have a good helper. Thanks thanks for the kind words.

Number one in any good that comes from us.

We know this is the Lord's doing in the Lord's grace and I'm sure he's got an army of people of and thankfully there are a lot of folks that we point into over the years that are doing great things for example through ministry school which will be going online later this year.

Fire school of ministry with tremendous online program but your ministry school we been able to to touch impact many who are now doing incredible work around the world on the mission field planting churches in the states, making a difference a powerful evangelist reaching millions of different countries. Others raised up and call the Canary so a lot care in the heart of revival, Jesus, revolution, prayer missions, there are a whole bunch by God's grace that we been able to pour into that are out there doing things would try to pour into more folks James to raise up more leaders and apologetics in the Jewish front of hopefully over the years will be able to do that more effectively. The challenge is to get folks that know Hebrew and then can you apologetics but more more coming up and take a little while for them to to get everywhere. They need to go but but some young men and women that are gifted in their being trained and raised up so on that front. And then on the culture wars. Of course there a lot of folks on the front lines of the culture wars so Gus can put me together in a certain way that I'm in a bunch of different areas at the same time and in that regard, were trying to raise up people in each of those different areas and race of teams to be doing things in those different areas at the same time. By God's grace when I want to keep running five filling just getting started, like a kid in a candy shop just getting going.

So we appreciate your your prayer and support for that but you know each of us. If you dig down deep enough were each totally unique. You don't say that the unique person you are, the unique person I am, any person or our kids are the first.

My wife is her grandkids. Each you know each one. If you dig down deep enough there's nobody on the planet like us. And in that sense were each unique and irreplaceable. But on the other hand, it's the Lord who does the work through us but yet we keep for many years we been pouring into folks not to succeed me, but with the different birds we have the culture wars Jewish apologetics outreach to the nations world missions biblical scholarship keep trying to point to different people so that we can raise up an army doing things and then the goals they can all pass whatever I've been doing vacant all of them can pass that and go beyond that's the great goal and that's wherefore to see happening regard light when I'm done light tournament, look up anything and I am amazed at how much know people pull from not buckled a little thing about like for you know, an account that missionary. But what about a light will Dr. Brown boot with about half of that you numerically near the menu but we look alike, Ms. Megan yeah so there are folks yet. We talked about it.

Thankfully, there are some fine people. This elitist missing Jewish congregations there some young men who really sharpen their learning. The Hebrew better. So folks are being raised up for whatever reason I had to pioneer this when I came to faith, trust me office is deal with these brilliant, very sincere rabbis.

It was overwhelming as little intimidating. Thankfully, the Lord had so deeply saved me and transformed me.

But you know young men in Israel being raised up on the front lines doing more and more of one year, one author just beginning of his book attributed his interest in apologetics to my influence that he's doing a great job so folks are doing more more and and let let the tide rise, but James in the early days.

I didn't have anyone to go to except the Lord in the word so it was challenging but then out of that we been able to develop some things all by his grace to his glory and hope. Hopefully others can keep move just a strange thing else it assesses less things are the strange thing is that there is nothing more important apologetics than Jewish apologetics, and that it starts with the house of Israel Jesus the Messiah's Jewish and ultimately the Jewish people will welcome the Messiah back according to Scripture he won't return until these welcome back was Jewish people.

It's what I believe Scripture teaches. And yet it's it's been about the most neglected field of apologetics.

When I have taught at apologetics schools schools that their whole their whole reason for being is apologetics I've taught for them and I was the first one to teach Jewish apologetics add great apologetics for atheists and great apologetics dealing with evolutionary issues great apologetics for Mormons and where there is debate with Catholics or others or and and and then with with Muslims in this area is been so untouched, so ought not to be hey thank you for the call. Much appreciated. 866-34-TRUTH of its go to Michael in Charlotte North Carolina. Welcome to the line of fire.

Dr. Brown, Michael, you're welcome.

I just had a question about the word. The I was looking something very family and it would commenting on a show that you went on mere Christianity.

And I believe you're talking about your interpretation of time and everything that your interpretation is heretical and I'm sure he believed that your Arabic for some other reason. Well, that that were drifting around run around a whole lot.

I got my question for you. It you have more luck that biblical definition like a working definition of the word Eric B and think that means that people are you know deeming anything, Eric B. That is a disagreement even if it may be like a minor disagreement. Like Congress is important, but essential right so first first thing is that the word is thrown around way too loosely way too lightly these days.

Of course I say I believe about tongues up 100% confident I can support Scripture 100%. So anyone wants to challenge me on it.

Please have at it. I'm quite sure exegetical. He scripturally deal with regional languages in context, I can support what I believe about speaking in tongues today.

That being said, there it if we just look at the word itself which is basically divisions and that's that's how it's used in the New Testament so it can be very generic in that respect, but as it has become a somewhat technical term in Christianity. It can be used very loosely as to any doctrine of any kind that departs what we feel is orthodoxy. Even if it's secondary, in which case roll call each other heretics because we have these minor differences right and I'm calling James White heretics is a Calvinist and he's calling me a heretic because an arm in arm in a minute and I'm calling you a heretic is your Baptist you're calling me a heretics on Pentecostal and an uncle. You also Elsa heretic because they believe the preacher bachelor economy heretic, as I don't believe in the pre-direct result that is obviously not the way that we want to be using the word so as I understand it, and let's just say the way I use it I do my best to only use it over talking about a departure from the faith that is damnable. In other words, a departure from the faith that is serious enough that if someone holds to it, we can legitimately question whether they are in the faith.

So for example when I debated Dr. Dale talking and he denies that not just the deity of the son, but the preexistence of the sun and to him. Jesus is no more than a glorified man that is a heretical position that I didn't emphasize is that much of the debate because I didn't want to make it like I'm trying to do hold this over people and threaten them but I did make plain over the course of the debate how deeply dangerous. I understood this doctrine. Once on the other hand, there many debates who I could have within the faith with brothers and sisters and at the end of the day we got have fellowship together and pray for each other because were one in the Lord.

Writer aspects of hyper grace that can be heretical, but they have to go to a certain extreme.

The way it's normally taught it is beautiful truth mixed with some serious error. If you take that error far enough, it can be heretical with the great number of people I know the teach hyper grace our brothers in the Lord that I have a serious difference with so that's why we draw the line.

Using the term and I think it may be wise to sit carefully. Just because there's so much division. There is so much everybody speaking their mind on social media so little processing and digesting of ideas that we throw things around so freely. I why I get attacked as a heretic day and night and the funny thing is I get back from either side. Get out there.

If I just dock those people get it cancel each other out. I just feel bad for people not recognizing the unity that we do have in Jesus. And as I travel around the world.

I meet a genuine believer, you know, that's all I want to know. And if we have minor differences and other points fine but were together for the bigger issues in Jesus and that's what I want to emphasize so again to me. If it is something that would ultimately disqualify you from the faith being damnable doctrine with Jehovah's Witnesses teaches is damnable doctrine, but the differences between Southern Baptists and charismatics are differences within the same faith. Therefore, I would not want one side or the other to use the heretic term about the other right right back with as many calls as I can get to write here alive. It's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 86643 here again is Dr. Michael Brown back to the line of fire.

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Let's go over to Atlanta, Georgia Alex, welcome to the modifier around law. Yes, here's the problem.

I went to dinner with my boss last night and I not the topic I got God, Jesus, and you know okay we have morality without God and I'm coming from a point where you know when you Jesus and we need to have objective morality we need only God so you know things like lying and murder. Everything that's kinda spelled out in Scripture that consistent from Old Testament and New Testament know we can be objective because of God. But then on the kind of pointed out that there were a couple situations in the Old Testament. I think where it seemed it look like the despised for Israel. I don't know which book that is in the north of the midwife concerning Pharaoh with the babies being turned to the river that you're thinking of those people. They were belied and got no flush them and on setting a lot alike come back on schedule.

You know what day artists of the gospel is not an ally, how To be talking of objective morality of God blessed liars and old right so the first question is how do you define morality without reference to absolutes. So I would start there with your boss and say okay let's let's start here.

How do we define morality. How do we define good or evil. If we have an exclusively evolutionary model limits survival of the fittest. Perhaps, for the good of the human race.

It's better to eliminate certain classes to drain the economy or that are more prone to drag that the working class down or maybe there's one group that's more fit superior to the other group resisted an evolutionary model. Survival of the fittest. That's how you determine things so I would first ask if if we are just the freak random products of it of an evolutionary process and unguided evolutionary process. What is good what is evil where the concepts come from.

That's what my friend Frank Couric in his book stealing from God explains how atheist arguments have to start with certain godlike presuppositions before this even arguments that's first thing what is good what is evil in it when people tell my friend Dr. turmeric, there is no such thing as as truth there is no absolute truth, he said, is that true associate you want to try it out challenge some of these things right up front so on. Absolute route is a civil what is morality how do we define Road.

How do we define goodness. Let's go to the animal world. Is it immoral when a spider eats a fly. Is it immoral when a lion eats a zebra walnuts. The natural order of things in so I press that first and it's very difficult to ultimately say there is a clear meaning. There is a clear morality without first establishing God and absolutes that someone number two is to say that the Bible is very clear that there are certain things that can be done to save a life, so that if if I had to lie to save someone's life, it's during the days of Nazi Germany by two euros. Exodus 1 Joshua two would be the places in question about wine and things like that but do we commend those who hid Jews during the Holocaust and when the Nazis came other door you have any Jews here know and they literally would have a hole in the wall and that there would close things up in the Jews with high back in there and stay there. We commend that is a good thing.

So we ultimately have to look at the the the larger purpose and recognize that sometimes someone can be deceitful in order to save a life because of an oppressive government because someone's at your house like if someone came to your door.

They want they want to murder your sister is here. I'm sooner all day and they run off okay. You saved your life did you do the right thing or the wrong thing and said it. Your bosses are great questions but now we can evaluate them based on moral principles and and when is it right, civil rights, it tell a lie to save a life. If you have a murderer at the door right over.

But is it right just to tell a lie, and what it did to procure heroin from salon strip obviously not. But the question you asked him is how do we come to moral conclusions.

How do we determine what is right and wrong. How do we determine what is value or not. Other than your survival of the fittest whether some absolute standard we have to look at site I come back to him with those questions. One, how even morality is what good is what evil is to those instances were for a higher purpose which gets back to the point, how do we determine what is moral and what is not so Bassett back in that direction was to think about it.

I suggest you reach Frank Couric spoke to you Re: Kate stealing from God, thank you you are you are very welcome sir, 866-34-TRUTH.

Let's go to JD in Nashville, Tennessee. Welcome to the modifier. So my question is, first of all, I appreciate the basement you do even on the issues where Mark you might not even be convicted of salvation because of their theology, graceful and polite deal diplomatically with God. Work which is which is what were supposed to do. I'm annoyed by legalism on issues as well as hyper grace. I know there's gotta be a there's a call on a walk supposed to have run into this issue and with Seventh-day Adventists who what will make statements like interlock traffic is a sign between people forever and they will take a Scripture.

Several Scripture talking about the field. God and try to relate to, but they will agree with the statement, but it is by grace through faith which they have not of any work so that nobody could post that will agree with that statement, but they'll say things like any kind of a test which seems to scream if an issue of going to church on a different day is gonna get it right especially the issue of Sabbath, which was specifically given as a covenantal sign between God and Israel.

Even if God himself rested on the seventh day. There's no Sabbath command until Exodus 16 and Galligan is a sign between him and the Jewish people, and then explicitly New Testament cautions to tells the Gentile believers not to succumb to pressure but also have regular right and in Romans 14, even if it was a talk about Sabbath. The same principle applies in in terms of days, etc. so that that would be of no problem with people understand Sabbath, the seventh day were feeling that the later church changed it to the eighth data Sunday and cider. I've other problem with people worshiping on the seventh day minimum messenger's friends do as as a Jewish believer Sabbath know if if I'm not out traveling, speaking that knows that Saturday Sabbath is my natural day of rest, but yet the problem with legalism is I've defined it as laws without love rules without relationship status yet standards without the Savior is externally imposed religion and invariably it is judging by criteria that God did not say, to judge by it is adding some other ingredient in making that central so look Jesus changes us and if we truly know the Lord, our lives will be different and that's why the work and warned that no one lives like this and this and this will inherit the kingdom of God because that person is obviously not been transformed by the Lord, but it's a it's a complete wrong way to look at it that in order to be saved.

I have to then conform to a certain behavior. Once I do that I'm in.

Rather, the behavior is the consequence of a changed life by God's grace invading me and transforming me so I give it to make it part of my way to heaven which of course I can never earn correct notice if it's my initiative to reform myself and I can become good enough to get in that I don't need a Savior, if rather is a wretched sinner.

I call out for mercy and grace and salvation and God saves me by saving me changes me now I bring forth fruit worthy of repentance.

The change life is the fruit of salvation yet absolutely that's the difference. Glenn click taken ourselves is not equipped could be strong.

Delusional. Not sure how do you handle it could be a caller could be a personal action. Somebody out on a specific issue involved because you care about them you care about her salvation about having relationship with.

How do you handle that with jump jumping and jumping. It's cut off all because every 30 seconds to answer you.

I go back to the cross. The cross the cross across the words okay you sick. I've got Seventh-day Adventist friend loves the Lord and were fellow believers and we used to debate we lived in the same state.

Years ago, but if I wasn't at that point from the fellowship circuit when we ran what we ran and some Seventh-day Adventist do not agree on these things and I without question the relationship with the Lord with others due to gramophone the case of salvation through the cross is cross business through the blood filled his let's later on, that God analysis say Lord hey, have a blessed week in Glen Cove Sunday night I'll see Long Island