Reflections on Gay Parenting from a Woman Raised by Lesbian Moms

What happens when you're raised by two lesbian moms which your view of parenting get an expert to win the day for the line of fire with your host activist and author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire. Now, like always, 866-34-TRUTH is 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown friends want to fire broadcast.

We are going to have a very important show today. So glad you could be with us 866-34-TRUTH's number to call 866-348-7884 the first half of the show. Today I want to speak with Katie Faust. She is doing something very very important today.

She is advocating for the rights of children in terms of homes in which they were raised in terms of what children need, as opposed to just what some adoptive parent or other parent may want and she's got a lot of background and experience can be very important.

Also, both of you heard her watch yesterday show I I've got some clips to play few that can be eye-opening and will continue to discuss the question of anti-Semitism in the church that will be in the second half of the broadcast. First, my guest kid is the founder of them before us. The only organization solely devoted to defending children's rights in family structure. She's written many great articles about the question of the role of a mom and a dad gave parenting or the downsides to that. So as a mom herself and hasn't her own unique story. Katie is uniquely qualified to join us. Hey Katie, thanks for being modified today. Much appreciated. Yeah. So Katie, what prompted our current conversation was Mayor Pete I just use his first name because I was mispronounce his last name South Bend, Indiana. He and his quote husband Cason about having kids and God made his partner to be a dad and things like that and you have some concerns from the viewpoint of being an advocate for children from the viewpoint of being a hater, a homophobe or bigot, but in the viewpoint of being an advocate for children you have concerns about bringing a child into a world where my choice there deprived of either a mother or father so share show what you read when you hear these things when you hear me up. You talk what emotions go through what concerns you have anything that might Mayor Pete and his partner husband probably would build a wonderful father like I don't doubt that claimant all the problem is that neither of them can be a mother. And for either of them to become fathers in their current situation at hand. It might have to lose their mother, thereby not to lose our relationship with one parent, and at least one person to whom they have a natural right and that is an injustice that an inductance that is being felt promoted and normalized today that now it sounds like progress but it's really not right that kind of mind that I have a right to a child, even if that means that that child cannot have a relationship with one or both of the people are responsible for their existence.

That's actually a very regressive vehicle and so when I hear the media promoting the idea that Mayor Pete and his partner, who are probably both very good men and probably would be great. Father, I think how insane that you think that a child should have to sacrifice something that the need for something they have a natural right to that two men can be parent and in a relationship where they are deliberately probably deliberately cutting the mother out of the picture yet. So again, this is by choice, noticing they chose to have same-sex attraction, but if they choose to bring a child into the world that there has to be a mother involved the matter how advanced we are scientifically every human being has a biological mother about father Sue making a choice that will deprive the child of either a mother or father for life. So, can you hear the sociable one about single parents what you say that what's the difference what we had them before. I will report adult hoodoo hardening children's rights are protected. People are single-parent because they are the only adult in a relationship that was going to do the hard thing and be a good parent to their child that we are behind me adults that are choosing to do hard things.

We are behind adoptive parents who are choosing to conform their lives to a child who has tragically lost to their parent. We are for heroic parents who are filling the gap filling up tapping in to fill the void that was left perhaps by a delinquent or abusive or irresponsible biological parent but not negate the reality that children are the safest month attached to the most protected by ethically their biological mother and father and that when we violate those norms are when we deliberately deprive children of the bond we are putting them at risk, and so can't be more than just love and safety. You know they need more than just adults who care about them they need and are made for and have a right to their biological mother and father and well times impossible for that arrangement to take place at the idea that we are now normalizing and promoting household where children will have to lose one or both of their biological parent is an injunction and you know I you mentioned a little in your introduction and I want to circle back a bit, just my own background.

You know my parents divorced when I was 10 and thankfully my parents remained friends. I was still in relationship with both my mom and dad even after their divorce, but soon after their divorce. My mom met and fell in love with another woman. Her partner and are both wonderful and I've I've continued to enjoy a close relationship with both my mother and father throughout my life and so I would not say that I'm raised by lesbians but I will say that I love my mother I love her partner. Both of them are incredible women and neither of them could have been my father and I'm so grateful that they didn't try and so grateful that I got to benefit from the love connection an attachment with my father throughout my life so been saying that children have a right to their mother and father is not anti-gay pro-child and you can say children have a right to their mother and father and still with all of your heart. Love those in your life who have same-sex attraction or who identify as gay and lesbian is no contradiction out of so Katie you were in essence not raised by lesbian parents.

It would be a little misleading to say that but you have formal insight having spent a good portion of your life with two moms and without the physical that present. Can you imagine what would be lacking in you. What deficit you might've had what part of your life would would be kind of like a hole that needs to be filled. If you if you never really knew your father has imagine yeah I don't imagine it because on our website.

Story bank of children who were denied a relationship with their mother or father because they were raised in the same TextEdit household and it's extremely difficult for several reasons. The first one is obviously that are missing that dual gender input that ARE made for that they craved there are certain things that dad to give to their their children. Whether it's a son or a daughter that mother simply cannot give eligible say that there is no such thing as parenting is only mothering and fathering different men and women are when it comes to interacting with their children so kids are raised in the same TextEdit household are always deprived of that dual gender influence that is a critical part of human development. Second, many of those children didn't just lose a relationship with their mom or dad. They were intentionally denied a relationship with her mom or dad and actually set things up for a very different think developmental challenge that all children when they're not being raised by their mom or dad no matter they lose them whether to death, divorce, abandonment, donor conception or surrogacy yet to meet a kid not being raised by their mother and/or father who wonder why they do.

They love me today.

Think about me. Do I look like me. I mean it's just the nature of kids to wonder about the two people who made them and think about them. There is loss associated with losing a relationship with your mom and dad in a way that is traumatic and painful for kids now can't raised in a same TextEdit household were kids that are donor conceived, who were intentionally separated by their parents who are raising them often feel that law often wonder about their other parent, but they're not free to ask Brett that loss because they are living people who are responsible for their biological parent not being there to begin with a difficult dynamic where the child feel like they have to support the desires of the adults who are raising them into that. You know the kids on our website who have chosen to share their story to have same-sex parents will say I cannot talk about that I cannot talk about how difficult it was to live with my father and his partner, or be raised by two months because if I do, the world will say that I'm a bigot. The world will say that my natural desire to be loved by my missing father or to be loved by my missing mother is bigotry and so this whole cultural narrative today, silencing kids and so kids are raised in the same TextEdit household and a lot of the time. These parents are good herein.

A lot of the times these kids don't feel like they are free to process their loss and talk about the ways that they are struggling and suffering and in and of itself sets up another layer of complexity for Ted and I heard from some of them themselves like I love my mom so I love my dad want to hurt them, but and the website anonymous us that came to my attention a few years back and this was children of anonymous sperm donors and they would post stores and they would post poems I read one of them on the almost broke down and had the gal that father that come on and it'll all who am I and I'm dating someone they kinda look like me. Maybe that's my brother or my sister what happens if we kiss her know what school is their relationship and does my deck. I just graduated high school. He knows this he is just an anonymous prayer house did you make donating your sperm you know if you ever think about me and so again like I can't relate to that and yes a kid in an adoptive home.

Thank God for the adoptive mom and dad that are caring for the child in the sense of identity, but even then, the child still has this thing. They wonder about origins and in your talk about again the case like this will willingly a choice is made by two gay men were two lesbian women.

A choice is made to bring a child into the world and by choice to deprive the child of either the mother or the father we come back want to talk with Katie about two things. What about we here know all the kids races since it comes they're doing just as well.

Even better is raised opposite sex homes and then what's the difference what is a mom raising could give me the dad of the processing.

So what's the biological, spiritual, emotional differences, movies, out how you find out more about Katie for soluble. She knows that all will light a fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution is Michael Brown on the line of fire. You called big it blasted get attacked. That's just the reality we have to speak the truth in love because we care about people here. Katie fell specifically Christmas children will looks like we lost Katie there.

I don't know what happened. How are the let's reconnect with her all right.

Don't know Hope I didn't do it. I don't think I have anything but if I did it I probably don't think I did get Katie right back on the line is a question from Brian and Charlie Brown want to ask Katie your question directly, but you can connect with her.

You can look up them before us them before us.

You can because them before us.com right so I give out that info now them before us.com children's rights before adult desires. Great place to go.

You connect with on Facebook, twitter, etc. all right, so what will get Katie back momentarily, but O'Brien you asked the question how do parents deal with gay parents and children's TV shows. One thing is if you see the show is going in a certain direction where it's going to normalize homosexuality in the eyes of children that is good to just say you're working a watch that anymore or mommy, daddy think there's a better show or let's do something together that the kid really likes to do. If you feel that it's it's there it's over. It's now going to be a negative influence right. That's the first thing the second thing is if it does come off as a question, you can just take the child say boy that is such a mistake but probably very nice man are very nice ladies but kissing the mommy and daddy, gave him mommy and daddy not a mommy or mommy, daddy and daddy depend on the kid I was. I was in gym workout one day in full was training for little while so I know what to do was out. My son Christian then says that my son and and so two men holding hands in his daddy. That's not right setting that what you said it would be mean, but I should just tell them they're confused Ralph was me that I can view all or should I say there willfully rebelling in and set out hell bound sodomites centers are you gonna tell the kid don't tell tell the kid because there there sincere and they think hey this is Curtis's father. They believe it.

Whatever level of deception therein. So you compassion and thanks Brian for for the question of I may have to fill in for Katie was somehow we lost or does not listen.

I've done interviews.

I was on with Todd Starnes on on his national radio show couple months ago and we were really governments of the subject accident six months ago and the time from redoing that I had to do it on my cell phone because it was in between office and home and so on and I go to location is always by your catenary will call by Dr. Brown. I get a call back please each other so I hate when that happens, but it does happen sometimes. You know it's interesting every mom and every mom and dad relates to this the way you raise your kids the way you relate to your kids. Now it is so stereotypical, but it's often very true. The mother being the more protective the father being the more adventurous the mother being quicker to see faults and problems.

The father being quicker to see the potential impossibility. This this often happens.

I remember when our girls were like junior high. Thereabouts late elementary school early junior high around their and we were meeting with the principal of the school as a pastor and an educator and Nancy was raising her concerns about one of our daughters in and I was sick. I was visibly fine. Any civil this is totally typical of the covered truth is where you meet in the middle there. Hey Katie, we've got you again all connected. Here all connected. All right yeah don't know how we lost you there but but anyway I was stuck having to be Katie for little while, so give your website try not to blow it but tell me the difference in some of the most fundamental ways of mom -related wicked dad relating to a kid how they raise kids with different perspectives. They bring me with this for years but this boils down a couple of minutes.

What are some of the biggest differences in parenting yeah how important you know we have servants in the last few years I trying to say that men and women can only be equal if they're the payment we can minimize gender differences but nowhere do these gender differences display themselves as magnificently as they do in parenting fell into mothers and fathers play differently this time to play with kids and mothers tend to care for kids fathers encourage competition mothers encourage equity I always use the example of monopoly like when my husband is playing Monopoly with the kids. It is just cutthroat mean my kid. I like money shark and I walking brothers some money and people and people that rightly need the fathers were encouraging them to go farther in fact in the mom that they hey you got other people in the family to look out for to let fathers push limit mothers encourage security in a month and communicate differently. Fathers talk to be more brief like hey I got the garbage and you know mom tend to use more subtle body language be more descriptive, impersonal and verbally encouraging honey, I know that your anything up you're reading right now.

But when you're done. If you could take out the garbage on that would be really helpful in getting the Internet you know I mean I mean this is not differently. It's not stereotypical to say the father is throwing the baby in the air and catching them as the baby is laughing with glee in the most complicated. That's not stereotypical to think normality is not the mother throwing the baby around in the father running in there. There are differences and the kids need the influence of both and without select. So what about you hear from gay activists know there's no difference. Surveys have been done right is been done, kids raised by two months because there is no qualitative differences in life and in an NI else how you sponsor yeah just wrote a great article yesterday in public discourse about that new book that would put out by Walter Schama examining every study ever done methodology and the conclusion of it on Monday, parenting and so I will briefly say that those studies that show that there is no different. Have major methodological flaws that either use very small population. They rely on parents reporting what they provide. Leave the child's experience to be. They don't use random sample. I mean, it's not the gold standard of social science research that you've been told that should exist for massive population-based conclusion that their coming tail, and I like to play the thought came with people you know I okay look when not talking about same-sex parenting tend to agree on four major things.

Number one men and women are different and mothers and fathers offered to think complementing benefits to children number two biology matter biological parents tend to be the most connected to protective of invested in and permanent in the life of their kids number three anything the child loses a relationship with their mother or father through death, divorce, abandonment or donor conception there's trauma and those could suffer diminished outcome and finally that nonbiological parents don't respond to the same way to the children in their life and that is why we have such serious screening and vetting from her adoptive parents because it's risky to place the child with a biological stranger whenever you're not talking about same-sex parenting. Social scientists agree on the fourth thing and we have decades of social science research to support that the one that when you suddenly study day parenting when all four of those factors are going to be implicated differently. No different. Sandy answer is because there's obviously a political factor involved in ideological factor involved in those studies and not just data, not just good client not just trying to chase the facts, wherever they lead us some fruit for doing the research gets academic persecution simply going against the politically correct narrative and as you mentioned, one of the issues comes up is is that the reports rely on the parent's perspective or a kiss is doing wonderfully.

They're the happiest heartbeat and then the open secret which gay activists talk about is that people are not asking the question will or is there a higher percentage of the kids identifying same-sex attracted. Is there a higher percentage of the kids experimenting sexually questioning their gender or the boys being feminized are the girls being master laws and the answer those questions.

Oh yeah, those things are happening, but that's considered fine or a positive. There's nothing wrong with it. So of course you're not going to get equal results. When you change the fundamental equation so radical right well and my issue is that they're not actually talking about right going to be a long time a long time before you are able to find a small population.

Children raise same-sex adultery. Specially if you want to get them from the moment of conception into the problem. The activists will say no to study that you appointed children who have suffered because they are the product of a heterosexual relationship that broke down and they had to go to transition find me to kids who have been with their same-sex parents from the moment of birth don't get there and it turned out great while The problem because donor conceived kids who were raised inherent sexual household struggled proportionately with trust issues, delinquency, addiction, feeling like they got identity struggled in the home of a married heterosexual couple. You're telling me that somehow these donor conceived get in things like that help with a don't have the dual dual gender influence are doing great but the kids raised the petrified Hill parent even though one of them with a sperm donor have diminished outcome. There is no way for the facts and the data to support the conclusion. All they've got is anecdotal stories and all they've got is bluster right and time will tell.

Just like with no-fault divorce.

It took a while was best for the candidate took a while and then studies indicated the opposite hate Katie were out of time. Old friends to them before us.com Katie is is articulate, loving, clearheaded things are on fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown. Your voice is more cultural and spiritual revolution zero Jim Dr. Michael Brown or hopefully with wisdom and love, but you get within my heart. What you see is what you get. I did not see a certain type of attack coming this is Michael Brown you are participating in the line of fire number to call 866-34-TRUTH 866-34-TRUTH 7884. I would love to open the phones to those that agree with on Benjamin. Those that agree with Rick whiles introduce those that agree with Oligarchy Michael Jones.

Those that agree with Rev. Ted Pike was out yesterday. I would love for you call in love for you to call him and speak your mind rather than just posted and snipe from online his own future. Candidly, it 6634 truth, but I did not see this attack coming and it's one of the saddest one of the most pitiful one of the ugliest woman ones were where I feel so bad for the people attacking but it's it's coming out more and more because I have exposed anti-Semitism because I have called out hateful misinformation being spread about Jewish people because of done that. I'm now told another Christian young, not a follower of Jesus.

Many laws come from trader into Jesus Christ by false convert Brown Burgoyne gentles know what you think of us on our Savior Jesus Christ, repent, sir, and on and you should back down. It's so obvious you're a Jew try to pretend you're a Christian it's really disgusting so I feel bad for people that are that are that in left field to even believe with their with their writing, but I think they do give him the benefit of the doubt say they believe with their writing and how would you feel if people thought know they come, but your your mortar from Moore's world posing as a human. Your feel bad for the people in general? What rock you feel bad for the people. I feel bad for people that are that to see that, for example. For example, when I say I'm not a tumbler to a postal medical authority over the whole book against Te-Moak authority.

I'm in constant battle with, missionary rabbis, constant battle right. I expect in the days to come that I will be singled out for attack by Orthodox Jews. More and more and more and more as were more successful in reaching Jewish people.

That's what I expect X with my life will be threatened okay but when I say by the way the Talmud does not promote pedophilia.

That's a lot Jesus. Have you taken in the lies that deeply have you ingested the demonic Kool-Aid that deeply that you can't separate fact from fiction. Truth from error that when someone you might so I differ with you Dr. Brown I have a different perspective of the great fun okay but said let's get into it so you don't follow Jesus are you.

You claim that the dark Dr. Michael Jones, Michael Jones, it some of what he says is anti-Semitic. Drugs are to follow Jesus like you actually believe that that's very sad so solicit I thanks thanks for posting so this is awesome from shoulder to give you post it was her name, Sean Magill, there we go. This matters most solids through and through can I just make a request.

I got a request since I'm a scientist shill and a secret undercover Mossad agent. Could someone tell them to pay me at least kids with someone just the least do that for some working for them undercover for 47+ years is someone tell me shall ease pain because I denigrate job.

I showed you actually believe that direction while while while while utterly amazing, so here's what happens yesterday right some Lisa Dr. Brown's disappointed just as you you you ambush Rev. Ted Pike. That was wrong. Could you do that that was wrong you ambush the man what I take those things seriously produce a relic. The show but you you mishandle that yesterday, so I actually went back in a full day yesterday late last night, I went back to listen to some of the broadcast. To reiterate what I knew I was, not ambush was, not ambush.

Now I'm demonstrating before the show and I witnessed the call by producer Matt called Ted Pike is here's here's the background you need to know right I had no interest in having him on the show to talk about the quality bill and gay activism because I can talk about that. I have talked about these things for years. I have friends who are attorneys, Christian attorneys, conservative activists brought any of them on the air talk about this. He contacts us right and then my producer matches will Dr. run differs with you and your sisters every time is attacking homosexual issues you bring up that the with the Jewish leaders are doing in a in a deal. Jews Jews Jews and it goes back to the Talmud and the secret pedophiles in all this is a bring that up so I said if he's coming on I want to discuss my differences with this young percent yes are you sure is that yes you call them right before the show.

I witnessed the call, okay I witnessed the call now. I want you to let's go back to yesterday show restart with clip number one, and I want your this is how I introduce the show and these are my opening comments. Let's start here over there and continue to explore the subject of Christian anti-Semitism. We are going to have a really interesting show today and there could be some very constructive fireworks in the midst of it. Rev. Ted Pike leads the national prayer network of Christian conservative watch story watchdog organization. He's appeared frequently before the media dealing with lots of social and cultural issues. Can I definitely share a lot of concerns about where the cultures going concerns about morality concerns about homosexual activism, etc. we would be stepper stop and many of those concerns. At the same time. He specifically feels that Jewish people, Jewish leaders, in particular or driving the gay agenda, and other negative activist agendas that are hurting our country and as stated in his bio here in the tradition of Christ in the Hebrew prophets Rev. Pike is an outspoken critic of ADL. That's us informationally evil Jewish leadership and it goes on so we're start with her areas of commonality and then we're going to highlight are very very different starkly different views of the Jewish people, and Israel are so that's I start off the delete into the show were going to continue to explore the history of Christian anti-Semitism then my intro.

I go to great take great pains to explain were going to get into our differences and we may have some constructive focus I had quoted him in 1992 my book. Her hands were stained with blood of some of the worst most horrific statements about the Jewish people.

False ugly statements about Israel. Jewish people I called back in 92 as well surprise while you contacting us in and etc. okay so that's how we start off that way. But enough. But there's more. Clip number 21. Start with her areas of commonality before we highlight our differences, I want to specifically discuss why your costly time.

The funds in with with Jewish leadership, etc. but go ahead you come back to the two things you want your attention to, and will make sure we cover this subject and then will shift over to the Jewish also back to you, sir, to the point you want to make one more point on the bill. We come back let's talk about the role of Jewish people.

I take deep deep difference. I have differences take offense to say this Turnpike is made of a you have a dialogue about it momentarily right here is a conservative activists also feels that Jewish people particular or to blame for a lot of the social ills.

He does not them all Jews, but again will interact with that are so that's 5×5 times in the first 1560 minutes of the show to talk about this with talk with this with talk with this talk about this with talk about this with talk about this.

We have differences will talk about this then number three. I asked him directly did my producer tell you we work.

This is like we don't want to talk about this with about other things and people accusing me of half pushing him as it was quite the contrary. This is this is overkill to set the thing up as they were going so clip number three. I asked him okay what are the producer. What did Matt say when he called with with when we gave the invitation.

Did he explicitly tell you that I differ deeply with you, and they were all for us to discuss them. You said before coming on the air might reduce explicitly called to ask how we go there not let me go there so he says yes we were very clear.

I said about five times in the first 1516 minutes only talked about the other bill out of courtesy to him the bill itself is important, but neither money or to do that. I did that on courtesy because he wanted to but my reason probably lawlessness discuss. I differences but Jewish people, which she weaves in all the social issues is costly criticizing damages and when I tell them usually can't really remember Ararat Aramaic when rabbis explained to him with the Talmud actually says about issues that the public does not sanction pedophilia. And again, I'm not at home and did you, I, I, I'm in constant battle with Talmud Jews about Jesus. Constant battle.

I do not submit to their authority. I do not suit submit to rabbinic authority. I don't believe the Talmud inspired but when you use speak it misinformation about it one to address it.

Does the Talmud speak negatively about Jesus very negatively, it could well be in some places this debate is a talk about that Jesus or someone from another generation. The chronology doesn't work, but it could well be at speak about him very ugly terrible terms, and Marysville could well be not denying that right but that it does not promote pedophilia. So here they are less Coquitlam for the week and go right to the phones when I explained to him the truth and tell them what the passages really mean here so he responds. Again, I'm not a tumbler Jew. I reject public authority I am and I have a whole volume as to why I reject the Talmud are bought 300 pages on but the these are misconceptions, and to make the road the route of the ancient rabbis, sexual perverts, that is a statement Jesus would not make my Michael evidence is overwhelming and what you're basically telling me. Here is the standard Orthodox Jewish subterfuge to try to whitewash his people, whom Christ called dockworkers will." Amazing.

So when you tell him the truth but with the passages really say that I'm joining in with the subterfuge and can I just say something I get to look at a lot of this promise is a love interest love's is silly, really disappointing me ally by evidence I like.

That's disappointing someone to help you. Seems sometimes it's the light a fire with your host activist authors international and Dr. Michael Brown voice is more cultural and spiritual revolution line of fire now by calling 8663. She will redoing taking on these wise friends. There's a price to pay when you stand for truth. There's a price early this morning I was up.

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Thank you for praying, thank you for your support. We go to Sydney Australia. Angela, welcome to the line of fire all hello Scott how are you I'm blessed man, nice to hear your accent not all dogs are very not speak to you off try to get out a few times this year, but with no luck and I'm so happy to be on on on the farm to you and I don't think you're doing a magnificent job and God bless you and or do see you as a beautiful person who tries to help the Jewish people to come through our Lord Jesus Christ. I'm all great background and morning to Greek orthodoxy, but I are done for muscle for Greek Orthodox talk also for Christian believers in Jesus Christ, the Bible believing the unification of all humanity and what you are doing is absolutely wonderful and I'm so blessed and that's why me to speak to you.

Go ahead.

So thank you for the very kind words and double to be in Australia next February. But in any case yes to your question or comment for today. Well I was missing to your show Pike now in relation to the promotional video leaving the Jewish religious systems that were at the time so I mean, obviously coming from comments like that are unwarranted at all because he can't identify any particular person. We can't put blame on anybody that the pedophile practices will promote pedophilia in any way shape or form Molly Molly issues that are ahead of me that that as humans we need to unify so we need to unify as you rightly site and we will believe on the Jesus Christ. Now that I love you Jewish people are working the Jewish area predominantly Jewish. But our work cannot exit my question. It's 2000 years now since the Lord has come and gone, they will be going to come again. We are at the stage now where we don't need to Christian Jesus where he is the Messiah will not be thought that we believe will we don't believe that he is, we need to put it out there to the people. Now we wait.

Jesus came with it on board.

Now whoever rejects that statement does not believe he thought themselves so will you Jewish, Greek, or any other background. When you said you don't believe in Jesus but me don't believe in God because he is so this is evidence of that. Let me just jump in time say because I do want to get to to respond all right. I'm so glad you got through today, here's here's what I would start wanted you religious to since I don't believe that Jesus is God in their mind.

God is not a man. God does not become human.

God does not take on corporeal form if if he does then that being is not really God. What I would rather do say okay we agree there is one God, we agree there's one God who created everything we grant this one God requires certain things morality and conducts a let's let's start loving our neighbors are self because we all agree in Judaism and Christianity that this is something important. This recognizes one God. Let's recognize that your call to Laura neighbors are self right that lies a wrong that injustice is wrong, that that mistreatment of other human beings as well. Let's agree on that now. Let's look who was Jesus you say he was using only for the Gentiles will then I could go to the Gentiles I got for the truth and then have the dialogue so I would start Cindy, unify its agree on what we grew the most owing to Muslim. Okay, we agree there's one God, one going honorably velocity of the Bible at all. We okay we agree on this, this, this, we really should be killing each other sorta okay let's agree there the lease. We can live next to each other without shooting each other and now let's have a conversation. I believe Mohammed should I believe Jesus who was really the properties relieving us to God. Sure there's more to your question, but for time sake needed to jump in and so I appreciate it. And that's when the combat lies about lies against the Jews because that yet. Is there a lot of Jews think that's what Christians do they lie about them and kill them.

That's with a gun through history. Something about the lies and show no real Christians love Jewish people, even what we say. You need Jesus to be safe.

All right, a let's go to Nicole in Texas. Thanks for calling the line of fire all around yeah you're on the air yesterday and I think after I also looking at the chat. I think people just wanted to hear.

Had you as radical and antioxidant.

Why and I and I to disagree with them but I think that sort of even a collar from kidney is trying to say to just have a dialogue not proved it had argue or him proved his video, but to just have that answer really asked that question. And so I get my comment.also you struggle with responding yeah I mean I usually don't you get emotional, but I felt like you got really emotional for had in it. I just wanted to know what what stops you from Kino hearing as you but not being offended, I got yeah thank you so much so short. Anyway, I actually pause as this one. We watched it. Let's see what was got what was going on and and as I looked at especially knowing why I was asking having him on and would've been set out his views are among the most vile I've ever read about Israel and the Jewish people.

When you have Jews who were butchered by Christians because of lies that were spread about them in the Middle Ages with horrific lies that were spread whole Jewish communities burned at the stake because they were lied about and Ted Pike says that the Christians were so moral that they were offended at the sexual perversions of the Jews and kill them. That's one of the ugliest thing so it's just like him. I can have a Holocaust denier on an ever friendly dialogue and an you know, it is also okay that's an interesting perspective. So that's ugly that's wrong. If they start blaming the juicer here. I just so somebody posts this earlier and basically calling for an uprising against the Jewish people and and saying that the synagogue shootings false. All the mass shootings are false of the Jews behind them. I can tolerate that garbage. So what happened yesterday was we were explicit as to what we were going to talk about in the moment I brought it up. He took personal offense and then he's claiming that that there is a subterfuge with Orthodox Jewish subterfuge lying about what's in the Talmud and I'm adding to those laws. So here he is spreading perversions that is been doing this for decades instead is been doing this for decades to get a website will with garbage accusations against Jewish people claiming that according to the Talmud and the Kabbalah. The Judaism plans to destroy the church of America through starvation and for chiming ugly perverts, crazy accusations that have spawned all kinds of Jew hatred over the years.

Among those that have read his stuff and those that have been interacting with real ale that you should just remove yourself for people like that and not even have that debate or conversation that I want because he contacted us. I would not ask someone like that to come on. Normally, but because he contacted us. I said what all have a mom but only if we go in that direction.

The moment we went there so he I wanted to do the very thing you're asking. I wanted to have him expose his views as ugly and perverse and demonic as they are about the Jewish people. I wanted to have them do it but I made a decision when he started interrupting when he started claiming that I was lying about was in the Talmud and joining with a subterfuge and he didn't want to go there. He just wants go back to the villi, I decided recovery of the radio knows if he stays on his computer. It's can be an ugly battle. It's not going to.

It's not can it be good for listeners. This can be interrupting back and forth a one night when I really correct some of the that the ugliest errors and statements he's going at ease in a dropout skinny generate now with the Michael Jones we are very very civil discussion of he's much more of a scholar than Ted Pike, but we had we had a civil discussion only to find out afterwards that he didn't realize that I thought his views were anti-Semitic by thought, wow, I said it right at the out you recommend I'll like trying to buy it when you do have is people that are to radical that you just really have to cut it off and just not talk to yet a certain point. Yes, my goal is to expose and that's why had a mom, but the collusive if in any way I disappointed any listeners viewer despite not being is gracious sore I look at the I have a motion please assess processing microphones.

Let's have a family business whilst I said I doubt any Jones hoping let's put everything out, let's expose the lies truth and trust Nicole, thanks for being a faithful listener