Will the Supreme Court Reverse Same-Sex “Marriage” Next?

The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. So, as the Supreme Court can reevaluate the decision to redefine marriages training of same-sex quote marriage. Next time for the light a fire with your host biblical scholar and cultural commentator Dr. Michael Brown your voice for more personality and spiritual clarity called 866-34-TRUTH to get on the line of fire and now there's your host Dr. Michael Brown fire Michael Brown beyond delighted to be with you today. What a joy to be alive today.

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That's what we hear what thrills me, though, is that many of you read what I write or listen to this broadcast or watch this broadcast and you don't agree with me. In fact, some of you may listen because you're very hostile to what I have to say, but you want to keep apprised you want to know what's going on or it's a just, sharp, and fewer provoked. I used to listen to a guy race that really disagree with got my blood become a bore eliciting but I would I would listen and some you just enjoy the discussion or whatever your your joy in your seeker, but let me tell you something really interesting that happened that is really thrilled me of finishing a book on why so many Christians are leaving the faith.

The books throughout March of next year September of this year. My next major book comes out the political seduction of the church help millions of American few Christians confused politics with the gospel.

That's a very intense book and it's going to create quite a stir of controversy, but I'm convinced I'm speaking the truth in love that threat September the book I'm currently finishing writing is throughout March of next year was my Christians leaving the faith and writing that book of been thinking along the way about atheism and atheist object objections to the faith. So I wrote an article some honest questions for atheists in LA that was it. Seven different questions and interests.

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I'm so glad that you're at and I hope I hope you understand that my desire is, is to pursue truth wherever it leads. In other words, the I I am 100% sure to the core of my being that God is real, that the God I worship is not a figment of my imagination is utterly and completely inconceivable to me that he is a figment of my imagination and that what I've seen him do over these 50+ years and my interaction fellowship with them. Plus the truth of Scripture that's just manufactured by human beings. At the same time. I understand that there are weights he reasons that people do not believe in God, reasons of substance reasons that carry a lot of weight to them and if we are to have any dialogue of any meaning I have to feel the weight of of your objection. I have to understand why you see the world the way you do the same thing within the faith. I'm very dogmatic on many points, but II don't believe I'm right on every single minor point detail be complete arrogance and foolishness. So I'm always looking to sharpen I'm always looking to grow and genuinely for those who see the world differently. I really want to understand why that's why in my early days when in 2004 my early days of getting involved with issues of gay activism. What prompted me to get involved was seeing what was happening in the community where I live with the rats of Charlotte see what was happening in Charlotte. Gay pride events will take place there. Businesses vied with one another to say who was more friendly towards gay activists was happening in schools. I got very burdened about the agenda about the stuff about the issues but I knew if I was to have God's heart. I needed to care about the people also is so were dealing with issues we deal with people so I went out of my way to reach out local gay activists like that time, the editor of the of keynotes, which was the gay newspaper for North and South Carolina.

So the editor than gentlemen probably in his 40s. I would read some of the stuff and he was tremendously hostile to to people like me in terms of conservative Bible believing people he bashed us and attacked us. But that was his world perspective and I reached out to him. I think he was the first I reached out to us that hey we get deep differences here. This is who I am but we do live minnow relatively same city nearby each other and like to meet with you so he was very happy to very glad to then take a pressure whatsoever affect. We stayed in touch on and often in the years that followed, but we went out had lunch together and swung to a quiet place that he liked to go and that's actually in the back of the cemetery and got some sandwiches summary city just likes to go. It's quiet he can reflect their we talked and I wanted to know his story. I want to know his background was. I could prove them wrong know so I could better understand fellow human being. So you better understand his life experiences, worldview.

We sat and talked and I've done that over the years met met with others, met with the subsequent editor of keynotes a number of times but once just launched just the two of us talking met with the local lesbian activist after after Gay pride event. We met and chatted. She was happy to meet many a plain conversation talking. I realize the person sitting with his gay or lesbian immediately on engageable and I want to ask questions that I want to find out about their life experience that I want to find out about their beliefs and how they view people like me. So why because God cares about those people so I should care that end because better understanding their story better understand the perspective will give me greater sensitivity in seeking to reach out and when I'm speaking about issues that that we have differences. I rose sailor say this, as I said it's it's can be very offensive to them. I hate that that's the case that's reality because I read same-sex quote marriage that's very offensive to any any gay person that's listening especially to tweak a couple using all our marriage is not the same as Rimer, 000 were not legitimate. All our love is not the same hole were not really human. The way you are made.

That's how it sounds. I hate that it it it hurts me, but I don't believe it's valid marriage in God's sight, and therefore have to be truthful, but hopefully people get to know me well enough though. No, it's is not hatred or homophobia simply say not look at. I play by the rules that God laid out this what understand. He laid out the majesty of one minimal moment the philosophy we've operated under since 2004 is reach out and resist reach out to the people with compassion resist the agenda with courage friends. It blesses me. It it means a lot to me that you listen that you watch that you read when you have differences with me and hopefully in the midst of our differences will finally be reasonable.

You find me to be a voice for moral sanity and spiritual card. You may say that guys totally wrong. Just understand, I do care.

I will just love God above people in my desire is to be a blessing and help in your life okay we come back. I want to talk about Supreme Court and will it revisit your virtual decision. The women take some calls and then outgoing talked about Sen. Elizabeth Warren why she declaring war on pregnancy crisis in what I doing wrong. It's about about them. The line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown got on the line of fire by calling 866342 here again is Dr. Michael Brown going 634 truth phones open now for anything you want to talk about a few minutes will be going to the phones you get my email today, the one that we have been wanting to send out for many months now. We finally send out yes announcing our Israel trip may 2023. Check your emails if you get emails from us. Maybe what your junk folder. Otherwise just go to the website to find it right on the homepage and start to run a SK DR Brown.org residual trips really are trips of a lifetime this morning for the first time ever, were staying in all five star hotel so you just get to enjoy the luxury of it while you're there. Even better foodies and better rest of the tour is just incredible will will have a glorious time together really believe that that you will be impacted in a way that you'll never forget. So check it out Esther to Brown.Borg.

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A Pres. Biden said this and according for my article. Same-sex quote marriage next summer website Esther to Brown.org and posted on other sites as well. So Pres. Biden said this back in May when the initial decision was leaked that Rose can be overturned by the court and any he said this so again this is Pres. Biden is become militantly pro-abortion. His views have shifted much much for the left in recent years is it is not just the brutality of taking away a woman's right to her body, but it also if you read the opinion basically said there's no such thing as the right to privacy and holds that if that holds.

He said Mark my words, they're going to go after the Supreme Court's decision on same-sex marriage. Now I read that I thought were wonderful. Let it let it be so. Let it absolutely be so that they go after same-sex marriage.

Next, because the court completely overstepped its bounds totally overstepped its bounds by redefining marriage that should've never been anything that the Supreme Court have the power to do you imagine our founding fathers when they're setting up the separation of powers and everything and say oh yeah and and if the court decides one day the two men can married to Winick and Murray were good with that.

That not only without been completely impossible for them to countenance on the legal basis but on a moral basis that within the Millipore joke for them to hear.

Now, Justice Clarence Thomas in his concurring opinion argued for the very thing the president Biden warned about. He said yes we should reevaluate some of these past decisions, including the redefining of marriage, including the. The contraception decision because there are laws against a couple in the privacy of the home using contraception to prevent unwanted pregnancies and some of argued, especially Catholic scholars and others have argued notices. This is not a person's right to do that, etc. so Justice Thomas said those should be reevaluated.

Now, Justice Samuel Alito, in his opinion for the majority said no no no, don't these not to be compared that he wasn't saying a hedge of recurrence. Thomas used the same for those who say this is going to be my words, like dominoes was illegal gives them to go to the overturned road they go return this. Mary returned that he said no because this involves code potential life. This is different than other cases. So David French explains like this and I quote again from my article, same-sex marriage, next up in plain English. Alito argues that abortion is dramatically different from cases involving marriage because abortion abortion involves harms one nonconsenting party. The code potential life to use the language from row of the unborn child interracial marriage involves consenting adults as people started to get out or that next service gay marriage, a person consents to using contraception prior cases protect conceptual adult sexual activity.

But here's what Justice Thomas wrote's arrearage the court to revisit previous rulings on same-sex quote marriage and use of contraception. He wrote in future cases. We should reconsider all of this court substantially of due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence Burge fell. This is because any substantial due process decision is demonstrably erroneous. We have a duty to correct the error. Establishing those precedents so another words, these these rulings that have established precedents that were bad precedents, they should be revisit. They should be reevaluated because the court made a mistake.

For example, Lawrence B. Texas decision that said that there was a constitutional right to sodomy think of that Justice Scalia said you open the door that you open the door to XYZ, including redefining marriage.

Of course he was right. That's what happened.

Neil Burger fell decision redefining marriage is become a precedent. Thomas is saying.

Wrong precedent, it should be reevaluated and then the Griswold decision contraception is and that should be reevaluated as well.

So what do I expect to see, let me say again that the every gay couple listening to me what I'm about to say is going to sound terrible and hateful to okay especially if you're raising children together, you can just look at me as is a very bad or evil person. Or you might you might be tempted to please understand once again that I'm simply following the manual that was given us. I believe the God who made us male and female who made us to biologically reproduce the one who made us so that this moment every child born into the world, all the billions and billions and billions of children who have been born into the world.

Every single one of us. We were produced by a male and female that's just the way it works in year of marriage was not just for companionship companionship. Yes, but also potential procreation.

So only a male and female can potentially procreate a male and male and female and female just leave them alone on an island.

Let them be intimate for 100 years till they pass away.

They cannot biologically reproduce with males and females unless there's something wrong with the male and female, they can reproduce the purpose of marriage was companionship and the potential procreation and then having an environment to raise the child with mother and father because gray moms and as a different right it's it's not the dad telling the mom with the two-year-old dog thrown up and drop them in the kids squealing in the dads throwing him up and that you don't have the scenario where the mom's throwing to give him a designee careful, be careful that's not the norm. Norm is the dads tossing the kid the most hate. Be careful with the baby. Some of the balls on the toy moms and dads are differently. We bring different things and there is that that sacredness of the two different things coming together as one in the biological compatibility and the potential procreation that that's what marriage is about. And the only reason that the state gets involved with marriage state doesn't tell you who you can date right early permission from the state to date someone meeting for people to same times your business whatever the smart policy, but you do that, but the reason that the state gets involved in marriage is because marriage conveys benefits on the state and therefore the stay conveys benefits on on marriage and in point of fact, the benefits are bringing a new generation into this world and joining them to mother and father because that is the best setting for the social well-being of the country so I do not believe the two men to women coming together how much they love each other carefully to that. I don't believe that that is marriage got site and I believe it's an outrage that the Supreme Court redefine marriage. See what you do make all of our marriage is invalid.

I don't know how it would work out.

I don't want put hardship on people but hopefully the decision was writer of should be made and ultimately the way our org government set up their country set up that's for states to decide. That's for states to figure out what they do with the vote according involves states voted the wedding like Scott except that that's that's the legal reality.

I still would not believe is valid and got site that would be the legal reality. In any case, it's legal reality now because of a Burge fell.

Maybe things would be grandfathered in.

Maybe it would change from state to state. Maybe some states would immediately say we recognize these unions in the states would say we don't.

In any case, the I do want to see the Supreme Court revisited because it's been a bad decision and a wrong decision from day one would happen while there have to be case that would go to the court that within trigger a discussion that could be to the potential overturning of over vertical.

So yes I would love to see it happen is as much as I understand that even saying those words makes me look like more of a homophobe and a and a hater of gays and lesbians in the eyes of many.

I understand that but you understand my reasons is nothing against you personally.

It may feel like that. Beside it it's it's not saying that you are committed to each other don't love each other or you don't love exaggerated. I'm sure many of you would deeply love each other want to be committed for life deeply care about your kids not speeding up of simply disputing with the meaning of marriage is all right coming back. I'm going straight to your calls will talk about some of the Lawrence war on pregnancy crisis in the state to thus be time to call 866-34-TRUTH.

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I slowly shifting away from the tertiary view of the atonement board for the governmental give the Tobit, but you can get Charles Bennion, William B. Anyway, my question is multipronged related to that, but I think I can make it better. Related all the redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us what was he referring to. Bring to the curse of the law and then, what about you becoming a curse for us that I got but say that because while learning about their current or doctor's appeals of the dish. You may be Jesus being the scapegoat of analogy or typology from the Old Testament, but every time you is referred to New Testament is referred to a lab. But I also wanted to know related to that, most reading about Passover you think of the popular labs you could bring a goat, not just a sheet though the New Testament writers only think of you.

The Moreno quota quote sheet or the goat also a lot of money again. The question both from want to get your thoughts right okay so bunch of things to respond to first in Galatians 3, Paul is referring to two verses in Deuteronomy soon. Deuteronomy 27 which is repeating the curses for disobedience and and recited from out the evil so it curse the for the summer is cursed is everyone who does not uphold all the words of the straw right so if you do not uphold these and seek to live these out that you are under a curse from God so Paul quotes that, and therefore, because all of us fall short.

He sees us as all under a curse, and therefore God's righteous judgment coming on us. Jesus becoming a curse for us.

It includes regular on these 22 cursed is everyone is hung on a tree that was talk of a crucifixion, but she would kill someone and then hang them on the tree and then take them down so they weren't hanging overnight because that was that was an accursed thing to to be impaled on the treater be hung on the tree that was considered accursed thing so he took a penalty of cursing under the law, so we can be freed from the curse which to me is his substitutionary atonement even believe the word penal out substitutionary atonement that that he took the punishment that we deserved notes also governmental and that is a public display and in other words, it is making a public statement of the penalty of sin and therefore the Messiah bears that foursquare that's that's the first thing the second thing is, the Israelites would not eat the goat on Passover that there was a lamb that would be eaten in partaken of. And yes, beginning in John 129 was on the Mercer sees Jesus. He says behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. And then he's references as a Lamb that was slain before the foundation of the world. For example, first Peter one. I think Revelation the 13th chapter so that image of him being a lamb is there. Isaiah 53 like a like a lamb going to slaughter. That's what happened.

So there is the innocence of that in the tying of the Lamb with the Passover offering. However, there's no question that the other offerings, including the scapegoat, which was sent out into the wilderness of the goat that was killed on the day of atonement that all of these images play in as well. In other words, Jesus fulfills the atonement system here fulfills the sacrificial system defined in Hebrews 9 and 10. That includes Dave atonement that those were types and shadows of the full reality that we come to the Messiah and ultimately all those things could bring about was it was an outward cleansing it's the size blood that transforms our lives and I do find substitution at the heart of the atonement system is life for life.

Just as the sins of Israel were confessed over the scapegoat and he then carried those away into the wilderness that in the same way that the sins of the world are put on the Messiah for speed to he himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we, being dead to sin for the righteousness by whose wounds we were healed.

So that's how I understand those things. And again I believe as long as we keep substitution at the heart of of what Jesus did on the cross that other issues like Christus Victor and and his victory over sin and death and Satan or governmental atonement that the public display of of the punishment for guilt. I believe those are all other aspects of atonement between substitution has to be at the foundation so that's my answer. What does that leave you with this first follow-up questions that I got but I do like the or punishment but not right. Our right will again so there's two ways of looking at that that he symbolically took it. In other words by dying on the cross which was the worst, most terrific, barbaric and humiliating death that anyone could sleep. He does the lowest, most terrific death in a public way that he therefore symbolically took our punishment right again what I just quoted himself bore our sins this punditry to be being that the sins of the righteousness and then there other verses Romans six and in first Peter three of the past to secure these five that point to him being that right substitute. The other way of looking at it would be that he actually felt the full judgment of God for every human being who ever lived in every sin that was ever committed that he felt the full ferocity and intensity of that spiritually and bore that on the cross so that that would be a literal payment of substitution, that would be a symbolic substitution either. Either can be argued scripturally that to me would now be a very much in-house it in one circle argument and the question would be what does the Bible communicate to me without doubt substitution is that is that the heart of it is a 53 six which I quote endlessly all of us of, but she progressed Rachel's trench was only in the Lord has laid on him right. These gettable intervals of the Lord is laid on him all of our iniquity right that's that's been put on him and therefore he suffers for sins. This is suffer meaning that all the accumulated punishment that we will get fell on him on the cross or simply that by bearing our sin and dying in our place. He took our place in either of those can be argued scripturally but see substitution of the heart of it in and then build these other aspects around a thank you sir for the call and keep digging and studying of let's go to Dave and Dylan South Carolina.

You are on the line of fire. Hello, thank you for having me on. I know you talk a lot about gay issues and all of that and I just wish her a little bit about testimonies of some people real quick. I grew up and I was very afraid of gay people. I was very heart of stone and got over the time began to give me a heart of flesh towards people and I want to share a story that I think will be an encouragement to everybody, hope it will be but I was once visiting the and I was passing by an upscale deli and this guy stopped me and said I'm hungry. Can you give me money for food and I said all I'll get you food if you want it and I said yes.

So I got a nice lunch and gave it to him. I gave him some personal literature and he went on his way eating in a couple days later I saw him on the street. They stop me anything me for what I've given him the food and the Christian literature even read it that we start talking for a while and she I try to find out if he was a Christian and it seemed like it was but I didn't know for sure but what was clear was he had a very difficult life and my heart went out and after talking for a while.

He was so encouraging. I couldn't believe it, and he was like so complementary and encouraging to me and and then he dropped a bomb and he said once you know something. I'm sick. I have a I didn't know what to say to but I didn't have a chance because of what he did next was so amazing. He put his arms around me and gave me a big and he said words I wish every Christian here.

I think you could change your life you sent me that I can't take any credit for pretty said to me, I love you man. You show me to an it was so amazing to me that what you could just change my life encounter and how to respond to people and and while that's that's everything so people Jesus is through her words destroyed deeds. It's through our lifestyle. It's it's it's through our our ongoing conduct is through the choices that we make and and sometimes I just thank you, thank you, Dave for being so sincere and open, fearing that taking the time to call him with that of look.

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Thank you for calling and in fact, Nancy and I were talking last night and about my grandson Andrew eight years old when on a trip together this week and was ministry in Fort Worth came along and and he's a real positive got people just love him on the job or worsen grocery store and and we are taught about how were similar in discovering life and a smile regardless of your wife have a downfalls with that customer service I've been frustrated with people on the phone and had to apologize and Nancy said you think of that was one of the listeners to your broadcaster. That's Dr. Brown. So you have to testify at I can't just do it. Apologize get frustrated like I just got to be gracious or how bad the service and how much somebody blew it because you just never know who's watching you never know who's listening. So let's let's shine the son Jesus to the world.

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I can't wait to see you gobbling Israel in May okay if I go back to the phones. This caught my attention a few days ago so I wrote about it over the weekend. You can read the article and asked her to Brown.org and the other websites that post my articles and asked the question why is Sen. Elizabeth Warren declaring war on pregnancy crisis and so we've heard about groups like Jane's revenge that started vandalizing aboard pro-life clinics. After the overturning of Roe don't remember these are clinics helping women and giving them alternatives to abortion, that's what they are doing all right and opposed to the Planned Parenthood clinics and others which are making so much money doing what they do. Determining the lives of babies in the womb, and in stark contrast with them. They are using donations to operate people or volunteering services.

People are getting rich off of this and enter your helping women on so we know that they been under attack simply why subs listen to what Sen. Warren said with role gone. It's more important than ever to crack down on so-called crisis pregnancy centers that mislead and deceive patients seeking abortion care. My bill will Sen. Menendez would stop these harmful practices so she's good crack down on code harmful practices.

Are you serious, so scroll down the article.

According to the Charlotte Lozier Institute major pro-life organization. Data from 2019 shows that pro-life pregnancy centers served closest to to million people with services and material assistance with a total value of over $266 million given for the care of these women check this up as of 2019, eight and 10 pregnancy crisis centers offer free ultrasounds. There were 486,213 free ultrasounds perform. There are, there were 731,884 preferred pre-pregnancy tests.

There were 967,251 free consultations with new clients. 810 locations offering STDs testing 563 locations offering STD treatment on site 291,230 clients attending parenting and prenatal education classes, 21,690 clients attended after abortion support recovery sessions 305 locations offer abortion pill reversal echoes on and on and on.

1400 40,977 paid staff 53,855 volunteers on articles. Why is set on finding this. She should be that you care about women. You should be thanking God for pregnancy crisis centers what gift they are where service they perform well similar wanted actually actually in her state. Massachusetts these pregnancy life centers outnumber abortion clinics by 3 to 1 say thank altogether. For that she thought was bad news. That's wonderful where thing is it's deceptive, deceptive, will check this up going to Charlotte Lozier Institute consistently high client satisfaction rates reported to pregnancy centers reflect that women, men and youth who visit centers feel respected value and will care for client satisfaction reported to national networks in 2019, continues to validate excellence in care at unaffiliated, especially at affiliated pregnancy centers around the country, heartbeat, international affiliated centers equally reported positive client satisfaction of 99.6% on average per centers through client exit surveys.

This accounts for about 2100 pregnancy centers and since 2016.

These centers have saved 800,000 babies lives while what grace, what good news why is Sen. Warren so hotly opposed to the because they are giving women a choice not to abort their baby.

That's why good business for the pregnancy crisis centers means bad business for the abortion clinic and I thought this about being pro-choice.

We are the women love compassion tenors are given choices. What they thought they were going to abortion clinic. They get up and leave and go to the abortion clinic. That's what happens so you see the real spirit can expose the light expose the darkness. All right, we'll go back to the phones.

Let's go to Andres in La Mirada, California. Thanks for calling the line of fire Brown Hardin yes you I have the important question is expected to hear about the Supreme Court of the Fisher entry, but often your is wrong, modern Europe or not. The complaint so the question basically from a legal point of view while what's wrong with the yes I just went out because you this so that's it.

That's the bottom line question for the court correct and there was theological issue that's not with the courts looking at moral issue. If it is legal as well and another was there. There are many things that are not moral but they're not illegal know him say like if if I tell you hey meet me here on this corner and 1/2 an hour and and I'll give you 20 bucks and I am lying to you is not nice but it didn't break the law by lying to the other so that the things it is wrong. The people do that are not illegal or in this case unconstitutional, so this is something Andres that I actually want to answer in more depth either with substantial quotes or especially in in the dissenting opinion to Burger fell some of us was ready raised or I'll have all the legal scholar with me, but the simplest answer sir, is that there is no constitutional reason to redefine the meaning of marriage when when our laws wrongly banned interracial marriages stain on our past that we did that, but will be wrongly banned them.

We were not redefining marriage. We were simply saying it is this person an equal human being. This marriage always meant one thing union of one man and one woman that's that's what it meant there was there was polygamy. And we said no that's that's wrong but it was still a debate within male-female so to fundamentally change the meaning of marriage accorded the right to do that anymore than the court could fundamentally change the meaning of, say, Caucasian. The Caucasian now meant an African-American know that there's no basis for doing so. The argument really pushes back and say, on what basis are you redefining marriage on what constitutional principle on what legal principle and there is really none just like role based on nothing. Now here's the other side to and again I'm glad you're asking because I plan to dig into this more deeply, assured if I was a better jurist legal scholar which which I'm not either. If I was that I could just be giving you an in-depth answer automatically hear so many to dig a little but the best quotes together simplify and present, but the other side is that once you do this it is now fundamental attack on freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of conscience which Justice Alito raises it the moment you do this you now codify my words. You now codify all these Americans who don't accept this you now codify them as bigots and you are making them walk in such a way that they cannot openly hold to their beliefs, while affirming the law. At the same time, Justice Kennedy -like hope paraphrasing. I hope that doesn't happen or of course it was going to happen. It was self-evident was going to happen. The handwriting was alder on the wall so this is more a matter of exposing there is no legal grounds for redefining marriage.

There never was this bogus start. Hey, thank you for the question and hopefully will answer even more depth in some of the shows in the days ahead. So once again, thank you for being part of the broadcast. Those that agree with me and love every word. Those that wince and get angry. Thanks for being here and let's let's all pursue the truth with all our heart longer. So wherever it leads. Regardless of cost or consequence.

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