Once Again, Christian Antisemitism

The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network once again anti-Semitism raises its head in the church for the light a fire with your host scholar and cultural commentator Dr. Michael Brown your voice for more rationality and spiritual clarity: 866-34-TRUTH to get on the line of fire and now there's your host Dr. Michael Brown happening again. But on the other hand, no surprise at all.

Anti-Semitism raising its head in the church with major church leaders and denominations issuing anti-Semitic statements to see what we get into today. It is thoroughly generous Thursday. Michael Brown, welcome to the broadcast.

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Maybe you consider Suffolk evolutionary will you watch the videos of commissioners you think the race a valid argument you want to challenge me with one of them. Or maybe your follower of Jesus, but but you've got questions, having watch the material attacking our faith very happy to talk with you as well. Okay. When I came to faith in late 1971 I came to faith. As you know many of you know my story is a heroine shooting a host using hippie rock, with very little religion and yells permits with 13 but my Judaism was very nominal and I knew nothing about Christianity.

Now get radically born-again and it so happened that the little church I came to faith really loved Israel, the Jewish people really believe that God brought the Jewish people back to Israel and I think the people in the church would've been shocked to know about anti-Semitism in church history.

They were, cut off the letter church history. Having Emma come to the faith of Ed of different backgrounds and assault like they were tied back to denominational Christianity or church history so was quite a shock when the local rabbi who befriended the gave me a book on anti-Semitism in church history was a real shock to me.

How could this be bought. Here's the deal, because I got saved in Italian Pentecostal church in this church was a lot of people came out of Catholicism and they kind of rejected all Catholic tradition and things like that. We did not have a deep sense of attachment to church history, it's not like coming to face so your Greek Orthodox and your costly talk about the fathers that the Greek Orthodox that the early church fathers and the heritage there, and so on. Or if you're in a strong written Protestant Reformation church in your you're talking about Lutheran and the reformers and Calvin and stuff like that that wasn't the case. We we talked about the Bible and today that was kind of our consciousness.

So I looked at it and thought okay that's that's on that summer will get that at all but on route. I knew this before, though Augustine was Martin Luther's name didn't mean much of anything to me.

I just know whoever they were, that's bad, but it's not the Bible and start a church in a south real faith sides, dismissed it was he was gone euros.

You can't just dismiss it because this is an ugly blemish and much of church history and and there were prominent church leaders who had to turn a blind spot towards the Jewish people who demonize the Jewish people who, in some extreme cases even even called for harmful actions against the Jewish people. You can't just dismiss it. Now I know there was rhetoric at certain times, people point to fourth century rhetoric John Chrysostom was involved with against the Jews of the rhetoric of the day and they would say Martin Luther was an equal opportunity offender. He blasted all his opponents and he saw some of the Jews and Catholics were in cahoots reducer, kill him when he had the final sickness for which he died is written to his wife by coming on sick. He thought for sure the Jews, the dose of employees in the sole what he thought of Jewish people so far from reality that that it fueled some of the fire of his anti-Semitism.

Nonetheless, if these people are true Christians. How could they have these anti-Semitic tendencies.

How can they write these things. How could they say these things so that, of course raise so many questions for me that over the years I really study this really dug in my most translated book is our hands were stained with blood.

The tragic story of the church and the Jewish people. It is a real real eye-opener and it was in print continuously from 1992 until 2019 will be put out a new expanded edition so that since been in print continuously now since 1992's over 30 years and that's why I'm acutely aware of anti-Semitism in the church to the state now uses of the story. I have worked with Christians around the world.

Some of the finest Christians on the planet and not one of them, that of work within other countries has had a trace of anti-Semitism. In fact when they learn about the pastor shocked big idea.

You go to Asia go to after you talk to Christians there talk about anti-Semitism in church history there shot but what I remember the Arena Christian often quoted this would've heard the sentiments many a time. I remember the reigning Christian telling you at at my home in Maryland. He was either doing some repair or sales market. What was the thought I was a believer. We got to talking and any said anyone who hates the Jews is not Christian, so that's what I've run into run the world and Christian leaders of working on America been lovers of Israel and the Jewish people. Yes, believing Jews need Jesus like everyone else to be quote saved but standing with Israel today. Loving the Jewish people. However, the more liberal denominations will constantly shift in an anti-Israel stance that is so severe that he can rightly be called anti-Semitic so Orthodox Jewish leader living in Israel. Jonathan Feldstein reached out to me. We've written a few articles together is taking initiative and said hey Mike how about we combat these together is Orthodox to a messianic you know that messes with some people.

But I'm thrilled to stand side-by-side with my Jewish brother yes I want him to believe Yeshua that he would prefer. I was a traditional view, obviously, but I'm glad to join hands with him.

Join arms with him to expose anti-Semitism, especially in the church, so he reached out to me and said hey could read an article together is absolutely so she gets it started then. Then then I'll rewrite and add an Takeaway send back in and then we get it finalized so you can read it now our website ask Dr. Brown.org, together with a great picture of the two of us. So if you go there Esther to run SK dear Brown.org you'll see the picture of Jonathan Feldstein and yours truly and there is the article once again Christian anti-Semitism so here the stories that that got our attention back one got his attention deficit.

Hey, here's another one that we put them together in the article of B'nai B'rith International. This is a Jewish new syndicate. This is June 21 B'nai B'rith international express concern and outrage over the newly elected general secretary of the world Council of churches, Rev. Prof. Dr. Jerry Pillai was a history of making anti-Jewish and anti-Israel comments so he's a dean of a theological seminary in South Africa. He is a dark skinned man so he has lived with the reality of apartheid in South Africa, but this is this is what he has done in 2016. He compared Israel and the alleged quote exclusionary and violent character of the Israeli Zionist project to South Africa's racial apartheid. He also expressed support for the BDS movement against Israel in the quote Jewish leadership help quote influence European nationalism in conversation with a common desire to establish in the state of Israel in the land of Palestine. Additionally he's accused Israel of wrongfully acting against quote the indigenous people of the land under the guise of national security or national interest. The also is Christmas to resist the empirical ambition of his religious this is classic anti-Semitism demonizing Israel demonizing the Jewish people that just exaggerating charges with falsifying charges against them and this gentleman, for whom I pray that God would bring them into the full light of his truth and grace is the head of the world Council of churches. This these are primarily liberal churches, progressive churches and their fundamental aspects of Scripture that they will ultimately deny me differ with them on but how the world you elevate someone to that position when they made statements like this blatantly false statements.

Remember Israeli Arabs of those who agreed to stay in the land after Israel declared its in it. It stated in 1947, 48, about 200,000 there over 1 1/2 million today in Israel. So much for genocide and apartheid. They have full voting rights with Israeli people. They have two parties in the Knesset. This is all an article that we point out Jonathan Feldstein. They they have membership in representation in the court from Lawrence course of the Supreme Court there involved everything from healthcare to the media to to the Army. There have to serve, but many do so: apartheid that is a bigoted false statement as it will.

Israel presses the Palestinians in the name of national security know they make security choices because the threat of terrorism that may hurt the Palestinians. But that's up to the posterior leadership took throughout the terrorism and then a lot of the security interest going. For example, the fence import wall that was put up his resident like that.

They rather it was down for many reasons, but until the threat of terrorism stops. If you people term.

Earlier people and he put up a fence in here in the wall stop that you do it you do it.

You say all these talking about. Also the people that the Palestinians that are in exile and and that are living in terrible conditions in Gaza Strip and and in the West Bank, which is biblical Judaism area of the problem with that is that Israel completely abandon Gaza Strip gave them to the Palestinians and they voted income losses. Their leadership terrorist. So of course this was gonna protect itself is for the Palestinian Authority that the post is when you are living under Palestinian Authority rule when when people are asked is really ours would like to the Palestinian Authority rule is really real is really rule.

We prefer that overwhelmingly, and Israel is continuing to try to work with Palestinian leadership to come up with peaceful solutions to live his neighbor side-by-side, but for the most part, the failing is on the Palestinian leadership. This is been demonstrated time and time again is a bigoted, ugly, false statements by the current leader now of the world Council of churches. No wonder many Jewish leaders and this is really setting that Jewish Christian relations and dialogue such as them.

PC USA has issued blatantly if these misstatements will talk about that because we can light a fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown got on the line of fire by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown to sign up for our emails because Monday.

We are sending out or email announcement about our next trip to Israel at long last having to cancel the last one. After delaying delaying at the laying abuse of covert can't wait to be with all of you can join us. This could be may 2023 so May of next year. What 10 months from now. So be sure to get our emails asked her to Brown.org SK dear Brown dog or take 30 seconds to sign up there all by the way their ton of other reasons to get the boat will make sure you hear about the Israel trip can be special amazing and some firsts on this trip as well so looking forward to hearing from you unless were okay. I'm going to the phones momentarily, but I just want to finish this up. I said for many years that you can watch as the denomination shifts left and gets away from scriptural authority. Here's what all do it will change its views on abortion going from pro-life to pro-abortion. It will change its views on homosexuality and same-sex quote marriage going from opposing to supporting and will change his views on Israel. Going from standing with Israel, not at the expense of the post in his position with Israel to siding so militantly with the Palestinians that it becomes blatantly anti-Zionist to the point of being anti-Semitic. Like clockwork, you watch tracking of a period of years.

It'll happen as to why this and we discussed we can discuss another time so that United States Presbyterian Church, PC USA past some resolutions why Israel right. None of going on the world. The past resolutions on at the 225th Gen. assembly is ready for this to read it verbatim Israel's laws, policies and practices regarding the Palestinian people fulfill the international legal definition of apartheid. The resolution claims there were two sets of laws for Israelis and Palestinians which are preferential for the former oppressive to the letter. It also asserted that Palestinian land. One was still confused by Jewish only settlements the Palestinians were denied freedom of residence movement living" separate reserves in ghettos echoing language used in the resolution passed to the same subject that the North Carolina Democratic Party state convention on June 18 the church claimed non-Jewish Arabs living in Israel. In the disputed territories could have an inferior status of this overtures proceed with the hope that will lead to a peaceful reconciliation with the people of Israel and Palestine, similar to that suited to countries, Israel and Palestine.

Those that similar to that which occurred in South Africa when apartheid was internationally acknowledged to Christian spoke out in 1950s against segregation in the United States later against apartheid in South Africa must again raise their voices and condemn Israel's discrimination against Palestinians given name to the crime against humanity that is that this discrimination represents the crime of apartheid audit.

It goes on in Cecile we will and become anti-Semites and paraphrasing here, so let's change the definition of anti-Semitism to speak of. Also peoples and is a anti-Jewish that's a term but corsets out who your shame shame on the PC USA but the surprise right we go to the phones starting with Jonathan in Alberta, Canada.

Welcome to light a fire under Brown. I do know about your report and even mentioning them there be done under 30 need be, would be moved from Jerusalem hundred, and just wanted to get comment on my like, why would they give up their position in Jerusalem and movement within the limited move that the work they didn't have any jurisdiction tomorrow over the heartbeat and also it kind of interesting.

Looking at the end of that time you need be down real big one from up the fired Benedictine monopoly or the current of the time. The right knee was there for 20 years, not born again,, right. So that is the means that is normally talked about this post destruction of the temple in your 70 when Rabbi Johan and Sakata went to Roman leadership and asked if they could have you off that they could have a place to go and convene.

Given that because with with the destruction of Jerusalem and everything going on the could be there as as for the the move in the year 30 who's doing this podcast, the guys being moved by the old okay got it. Got it general. I know others with that last name but maybe not related to him. So I'm I'm not directly from Abraham limit this check that you got my interest here. Jacob lived the ark of the people. There you go to the very young was the you will be holding okay not familiar with him, but I'm looking at is podcast yes or Rabbi Yaakov will be Jewish history podcast etc. okay I'm not familiar with him, so I'll check during a break to find out to find out more, but basically the. The reasoning behind this interview, you look at statements like it was exiled at that time it would've had to do with autonomy under Rome and being able to function the way it needed to function and and therefore having to move 11 statement 700 to move from the location called the trading place flow to the city much less significant spot to be forced to move for a beautiful, gorgeous ossification, the temple to spot much less beautiful stain referential must have seemed a terrible putdown and so here's what the Talmud says on this, there 40 years before the destruction of the temple.

The Sanhedrin was banished from the Tribune stone set in the trading standards trading station on the Temple Mount suggest a different location in Jerusalem, not outside the city. Now all yes so some have tried to make an argument from this because you know you got Sanhedrin there in Jerusalem it in the Gospels and the book of acts sues just the location move from from one location to to another. The reasons behind it. I don't know all the details of it, but the Sanhedrin continue to function with the destruction of the temple.

Then there is the ultimate moving shift in or out of out of Jerusalem, but continue to function their summer trying to make a statement on this that it had to do with this.

When Jesus was crucified, etc. but I don't think there's any connection there and I'm looking at websites he missed were talking to try to make that argument. But those are those Christian websites of interest to the internal Jewish reasoning why was mullah. I'll have to check that suit the specific question about a, yelled that you're trying to understand. Could you just repeat that goal of the amount you and the reference to you who all the knobby were the effect on and go down real but not be from 3858 even been done.

58. The destruction of the temple thought of that is really interesting that homework that will or my power to do a little bit of meeting with the 5099 that I would be happy is not see by the way just just say no to some people that are familiar with the with what you're saying by the thought, voicing Nazi self of C1 saying that this of the not see the head of us know it it it's it's only the Axis V and of course rabbinic Jews don't believe the New Testament sources are accuracy or anything like that but simply how you steam leader. If you could be recognized for your wisdom, you could be recognized for leadership qualities. There could be just general interconnections that you have dislike it, like anything else that there was not a a totally specific process like here in a we vote and become electoral votes in the total electoral votes. And that's how you get the president United States. There was that a process that was as fixed. That would say okay the one with the most wisdom is the one that gets elected or the one with the best lineage or whether there are other things that played into it so we can't say why specifically, it was him, but not that Willie had wisdom in acts five and that that's a demonstration of it that that would not be in the in Jewish thinking hey Jonathan, thank you for the questions. And sorry I can give you more details 8663 foray 7884 is the number to call them friends. I want to encourage you there. Jewish people receiving the Lord a very regular basis.

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Okay I'm going back to the phones momentarily 866-34-TRUTH but in the Talmud, the statement that ties in with Jonathan's question about the Sanhedrin is in Shabazz on the Beverly Thomas Shabazz 15 a so I'm under read the relevant portion in the expanded translation of a Dienst on Schultz so this is adding much commentary to the text.

So here you've got Rabbi Ishmael saying that so we went rubbish most of her abusive filial safety send them to him, Rabbi, Telus two or three statements that you once told and then your father he sent to them.

This is what my father said 100 and 180 years before the temple was destroyed the evil kingdom of Rome invaded Israel 80 years before the temple was destroyed, the decreed impurity on the land of the nations and on glass vessels 40 years before the temple was destroyed. This is the relevant portion, Sanhedrin was exiled from the Tribune stones and the temple and sat in the stores on the Temple Mount, with regard to the last statement the Gemara so the Talmudic commentary asked one of the halachic legal right ramifications of the statement Rabbi Hiscock bar of DME said to say that they no longer judge cases of fines. The Talmud wonders dissident your mind within the longer judge cases of fines, even several generations after the temple was destroyed continued to judge cases of fines and land of Israel rather amend and say they no longer judge capital cases the authority to impose the death penalty was stripped from the Sanhedrin and therefore they willingly left the chamber viewing stone since the Sanhedrin only convenes in the designated place the legal ruling the house because it will has the authority to judge capital cases. This is in the commentary of the call to Tosa phot that's explained or so for those of no idea. We just read, don't sweat it. For those two men as meaning wonderful all right we go back to the phones Brian in Fort Worth, Texas. Welcome to the line of fire. Hey Dr. Brown are you doing today the great in fact tonight fly to Pennsylvania speak at the Messiah conference tomorrow gobbling fly home tomorrow night and then with my grandson Andrew had down to four worst on Saturday to speak at mercy culture Sunday morning so I'm doing great thank you all.

The question I have been studying the tide and I'd I wonder if the Western church of Gottlieb-wrong for a lot of the early church fathers about the tide and I noticed a lot of people didn't take Old Testament verses out of context like Malachi 3, or even when Jesus in Matthew 2320 grief that you should tide be talking to people under the Mosaic law, the old covenant, and when the limited Malachi that that was a death penalty is back circumventing that you didn't that title is a requirement. New Testament think the focus more on sacrificial and generate giving so have we got it wrong. Judicial University yes yes we have it wrong, never wrong.

If we preach this law we have it wrong.

If we think that this is a part of the Mosaic covenant that were under you know the same people that will often quote this right laws about tithing of them will go out and have shrimp and lobster for dinner you know. So why under one provider law and not the other. However, here's what we have to remember in many preachers get this right that the type predates the law right. Genesis 14 Abraham ties to milk ascetic Genesis 28 Jacob vows 1/10 of all he he has over that God will provide for him that will be given back to the Lord. In fact, when you read it.

It seems kind of stingy energy bless me do this keep me give me 10th back but in any case then is instituted by law on it such as 10% traditional ties that were brought as as well us. Matthew 23. Your correct that is spoken to Jewish leaders under the law is commending them for being careful with tithing's and they've neglected the weightier matters of justice, mercy and faithfulness.

That being said, while the New Testament does not command us to tie so I do not believe that is a New Testament commandment. The New Testament absolutely calls for systematic generous. Even sacrificial giving and calls us to give of the firstfruits so I teach tithing is a great biblical principle to follow and that God does honor it in the spirit of Malachi 3 is the issue to be that that if we feel the Lord calling us to do this.

Then he said okay put me to the test, you honor me in on you and that can come in and many many different ways. But when you read Paul's teaching about giving in first Corinthians 9 in second Corinthians 8, and nine the principle of seeking first the kingdom and even first Corinthians 16 were at the beginning of the week you to put aside money that was can be for special offering to help the saints in Jerusalem so the principal is an excellent principle, I see the New Testament reinforcing the principal and going deeper and ice and I see the principles of honoring the Lord with our firstfruits is something that transcend the law you have in Proverbs 3 for example, verses nine and 10, which is against the principal rather than giving as a law so I teach it as an excellent working principle but no we are not under it. I don't believe that you're cursed by God. If you don't ties but I do believe that it is a an excellent thing to practice because many do not give systematically. Many give if they have money left over after paying all their bills. Many don't give proportionately to the rank of vets in the New Testament principal was much gives much those little gives little.

Although all can give sacrificially, as unto the Lord. So I agree with you that it's not law, but it's a great biblical principle that predates the law and one that I encouraged to be practiced in the liberty of the spirit supposed to under the Sinai covenant all right, all right yeah, definitely.

And then the one other thing to add to that, it how do we acquaint the local church or out because I don't I don't make the connection in the New Testament that that is where were spoke again now nothing that we would deftly have a duty to support the poor and our pastor teacher.

But where we equate that storehouse to the church right will it's it's the local place of assembly in the local place were monies gathered right. I quit when Paul was talking to the Corinthian so they'll put money aside and he's going to meet with them when he comes and it could easily be given to leaders to distribute weekly notes in the book of acts that leaders leaders were responsible for distribution of funds right so it could just be haphazard you know it. It can all be haphazard where you know you have really called the Pentecostal handshake of the Baptist handshake when you're leaving the church building. Some shake your hand and put it $10 bill or $100 bill and there it could happen like that, that this way there's accountability. This way there is joint wisdom and disbursing funds. This way there is of a systematic thinking about it. In other words, okay, here's a project that we want to help us to church so the leaders now can gather the funds together with accountability help on this project. Otherwise, it is like buckshot your thousand different things at once.

You can't be systematic. Okay what you do if the local community with 90 different things.

What about we concentrate on a couple effectively. So again I'm not looking at a legalistic way. That's the thing I'm not saying there's necessarily a legalistic equivalent of the storehouses in ancient Israel with the local church, but in principle, functioning the same way, just like you would support the priests and Levites as spiritual leaders among so that's another New Testament principal, those who preach the gospel should make a living from the gospel right so if if I'm working full time to the point of the flock in its regards called me to do than the flock should support me in the mood did not enrich me set on Richard everybody and I'm the king near the poppers, but there should be support the and the monies are given in a common way then you can disperse it and and New Testament. Take that for granted.

At first Timothy five.

The principle that the elders that rule well or with your gallant respect for those who teach and preach the word wall I was I was a double double stipend be distributed.

The assumption is funds are given to Disney leaders who are then responsible to the Falcons agog. Distribute accordingly. All right. Let's go to Carl in Canada.

Thanks for calling the line of fire on Dr. Brown very well. Dr. shalom shalom shalom. My question is a controversial Ashley among Churchill leaders and I think it's starting to the anti-Semitic perspective and God is. This is where Paul talks about in Romans 11 how the Gentiles are grafted into a natural branch and I believe some leaders of taken that to mean that we have replaced those will were called spiritual Israel, others no longer yours no longer a requirement for Israel itself in terms of existence" investment that's been the root of of anti-Semitism in the church over the centuries was when the early church, the early Gentile believers began to say we are the new Israel and God is replace the old is regards, done away with the old Israel that Israel no longer has a purpose as a nation in the plan of God. Individual juice can be saved but all the promises made to Israel in the Old Testament are now fulfilled by the church which takes on that role of being the light to the world that those sentiments open the door. Anti-Semitism in church history.

There are people who hold replacement theology today or the technical word supersession is him that hold true today were not anti-Semites but absolutely that contributes to its when Paul references the Israel of God. In Galatians 616. All that's the church is not Israel God God's done with the old Israel of Gentiles are grafted into the to the Jewish Street so that's there. The new Jews and Romans two says hate you noted you outwardly but inwardly so Gentiles of the new Jews and Philippians 3 a where the circumcision so were the new circumcision is the church, etc. so miss reading a misunderstanding. Those verses has opened the door wide to anti-Semitism in church history, and to this day, and in fact call. In fact, this withhold wars against Romans 11 right. Don't be ignorant of this mystery. The hard thing on his will is only a part in the end all Israel physical Israel is one of the individual say my book, our hands are stained with blood nails. This thank you, the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown got on the line of fire by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown is back to the phones, go to Bruce in Utah you are on the line of fire.

Dr. Brown and Christian broadcast quite a bit on your reference to eight end times temple built in Jerusalem, but you really much more magical. I have a quick report question of who, what is the status of that who will be in church and what will the function be.

Can you enlighten me church so there are two sets of answers to youth report question. According to the traditional Jewish view when the Messiah is revealed that one of the things he will do is rebuild the third Temple. Until then, you don't you pray for, but you don't speculate on it.

You don't try to make it happen. He will rebuild it, and it will be glorious, and the presence of God will be there in a wonderful way and that will be the temple to which the nations of the world go during the millennial kingdom is of as as to what's in it when you expected to be a replica of everything that was in the first tabernacle/temple, the question would be what about 10 Commandments and things like that that were in the ark of the covenant that was lost. That's another question that is, to my knowledge not genuinely generally addressed the second answer is that there are religious Jews in Israel who would believe that just like it was right for the Jewish people to come back to the land as part of the ushering in of the messianic redemption that in the same way.

It's right to prepare to build the temple so there is the Temple Mount Institute where Jews of Priestly and Levitical lineage have been training there are replicas of of everything that was in the first Temple.

Aside from the ark of the covenant of the 10 Commandments and things like that that they've made replicas of the of the bowls. They bid replicas of the of the candle stand and and things like that and they are simply waiting for the go-ahead to rebuild the temple. Now the problem is in order to do it at the traditional site you have to get rid of of the Al-Aqsa mosque of the dome of the rock you get these two Muslim holy sites. One especially holy which even the thought of touching that would launch a massive world war mean an unbelievable conflict would arise out of that. Some argue that there's a different location, you can begin building now, but that's a minority minority view as to who would be in charge of it. Well reconstituted Sanhedrin and Jewish leadership would be in charge of that.

This is all speculation of the ones talking about this. The vast majority of the ones talking about this or evangelical Christians that their alliance all right their religious Jews in Israel. The vast majority believe that when the size revealed that he'll do this and until then your your your playing with fire, your your messing with things your your touching things you shouldn't touch your averages really doesn't think about it at all. So this is really something of Christian fascination more than anything and those are all the details like that I could give him I'm not looking for him and think about it, honestly. And if there's an attempt to do it in the coming years that will be really interesting to see how that unfolds all about the great help thank you. I get what we don't hear much more exactly fractured exactly like all right you're very welcome Bruce, thank you for the question of let's go to Detroit Michigan.

Natalie you are online fire bigger hello Dr. Brown how are you doing great thanks for asking.

Okay great for you about John well 41 and if there's anything in the air when the property the property DIV NIE and I think verse one Evan fell down well that that that that because he thought his glory be talking about the glory in God's glory. In general, it is okay absolutely has a six absolutely referring to Isaiah 6 which is telling you, then, that the one who saw the Lord, high and lifted up in Isaiah 6 is the one who also prophesied about suffering Messiah in Isaiah 53 because that's what is being referenced in John 12 and seeing his glory deftly reference that which would mean that it was the son of God that Isaiah saw in in Isaiah 6. Chapter because the father remains hidden on seeable first Timothy 616 John 118 no one seen God. So the one that they would see in the Old Testament when when they would see God was the son is it's the son's job mission to reveal the father make the father known to be the visible representation of the invisible God's absolutely referring to Isaiah 6 and John 12 okay, great. Thank you so much. You are very welcome.

Thanks for the question.

All right, let's see we go over to share all okay Sean had a question.

Sean Chicago is it anti-Semitic to say the church's spiritual Israel, no, but possibly let me explain.

If you say physical Israel still physical Israel. God is still given promises to descendents of Abraham to take Isaac and Jacob. God brought the Jewish people back from around the world to the land and is continuing to work out his purposes in the Messiah will return set up his kingdom in Jerusalem and the promises given to Israel will be fulfilled and in the end will be a national training Israel will be saved will notice nothing anti-Semitic's in the church's spiritual Israel, I differ with the concept of believe it's what the New Testament teaches notes that anti-Semitic it's it's not hatred of Jews or rejection of the Jewish people were demonizing of the Jewish people or falsely caricaturing the Jewish people know now you could say it's anti-Semitic because it's saying that they're just natural. They don't have a spiritual side, but I don't think that's what people mean that believe there still promises to Israel and God's hand still on the Jewish people interest in preserving them in and keeping his promise all the Jews like everyone else knew Jesus Yeshua be saved, but to say the church is the spiritualistic and I don't agree with that concept, but offered people with deep love the Jewish people come up to me and said all we are all spiritual Jews and we love Israel and and they are Israel lovers, and they do love the Jewish people and do their best to be a blessing to the Jewish people. However, if by spiritual Israel someone means that the church is the new Israel and God is finished with all Israel, then yes as I answered Carl previously. Yes, that is anti-Semitic that that is saying God has forever rejected the Jewish people as a people, not only so it makes him into a liar house so I read some scripture to Jeremiah chapter 31 versus 31 to 35 that was notable here is this is immediately after the new covenant passage right so right after goddesses make a new covenant with the house of Israel house of Judah. But what he says, thus said the Lord who established the sun for light by day, the laws of moon and stars like analysis Jeremiah 31 universe, 35, who stirs up the scene and roaring ways.

His name is Lord of hosts, if these laws should ever be annulled by me, declares the Lord. Only then, with the offspring of Israel ceased to be a nation before me, for all time. While those heaven and earth jury saying then Israel will endure as as a people, but without sin. Verse 37 thus said the Lord of the heavens above can be measured. The foundations of the earth below to be fathomed. Only then would I reject all the offspring of Israel for all that they have done, declares the Lord of his owner, but the church is there Israel that makes God into a liar makes him completely duplicitous.

He gives a government guaranteed covenantal promise to physical people and this is a change that now and then and then how about this in Jeremiah chapter 32 check out these words here. Let's see scrolling down Jeremiah chapter 32 office oriented.

33. That's why I didn't find it.

End of chapter 33 my bed. There I should know, having written a commentary on Jeremiah the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah verse 23 of chapter 33 you see what this people said the two families which the Lord shows have now been rejected by him. It could be speaking of David and Levi right there descendents, but in context.

Here it is speaking of the nation of Israel. So the offspring of Jacob and the family of David.

The two families which the Lord shows have now been rejected by this what people are saying. Thus, they despise my people, and regard them as no longer nation. Sound familiar thus said the Lord as surely as I've establish my covenant with day and night.

The laws of heaven and earth, so I will never reject the offspring of Jacob and my servant David, I will never failed to take from his Austrian rulers for the descendents of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. You will store their fortunes and take them back in love.

God will keep his word to the church is the church. It is the gathering together of Jew and Gentile in Jesus we are one. We are equals we have the same Savior and the same God, and the remaining national promises to national Israel is Israel by being chosen has suffered much, but Israel by being chosen will also have a glorious destiny so says God in his word. You cannot friends pray for us as we continue to reach out daily to the lost sheep of the house of Israel back to the law. Another program powered by the Truth Network