Have We Lost the Culture Wars?

Here's a question we don't often ask, but have already lost the culture wars stage for the line of fire with your host activist and author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire valves like always 866-34-TRUTH that's 866-34-TRUTH your Jim is Dr. Michael Brown thanks for joining us today on the line of fire. We have a fascinating and ultimately edifying, especially challenging one as well about the culture wars about how much we get into the presidential elections. Are we overdoing it should be have learned our lesson by now or do the right thing.

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Feel free to weigh in our discussion yesterday in terms of what's motivating the impeachment process is there hate on both sides that's driving the politicians should take about witnesses being called we discussed that yesterday when animals were talking about today is, is it too late, too late to bring about change in America we fighting a losing battle say with abortion with LGBT activism with religious liberty and other things is an inevitable moral decline. Another question to throw out what if Jesus is not returning for hundred years. How would that affect things if he was returning in five years how that affect things if he was returning in 100 years or 200 years. How would that affect our attitude, 86634. Truth is the number to call. I've been reading a fascinating book by American history scholar Prof. Stephen Prothro is a fascinating title why liberals win and then in parentheses. Even when they lose elections in the subtitle how America's raucous, nasty and mean culture wars make for a more inclusive nation very interesting. He goes back to the late 1700s.

So 20 years after the American Revolution, and now we have John Adams elected, and now the 1800 elections with Thomas Jefferson and he looks at some of the rancor he looks at some of the division. He looks at some of the rhetoric and some of the concerns because even though Jefferson did have certain religious beliefs. He was not an Orthodox Christian by any means, and was looked at as an infidel, and perhaps a secret Muslim or Jew or something like this and if Jefferson is elected, I could be had for America as we know it. Let me read a couple of quotes to you two years after Adams elected president in 1796. Quote Rev. Timothy Dwight yells president and a staunch Federalist so Ephesus party was Democratic Republican and Adams party was Federalist, Timothy Dwight was still preaching a politics of fear and anxiety two years after I was was elected should the enemies of Christ is referring to the Democratic Republicans ever come to power president twice a deal president Dwight. He prophesied America could well see the end of both religion and family.

We may see the Bible cast into a bonfire. He said our children either wielded or terrified uniting in the mob chanting Mark Reese against God, our wives and daughters the victims of legal prostitution soberly dishonored, suspiciously polluted the outcast of delicacy and virtue and the loathing of God and man. If Jefferson is elected. That's how bad it's going to be. That's what Timothy Dwight want in Timothy Dwight was a solid Christian leader, Frank will come back to Yale in a moment, but does not sound like what were saying today of Hillary Clinton was elected Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren or people to gauge her or others are elected. It's it's the end of America as we know it.

Are we overstating things and is America's, steady decline.

According to Prof. Prothro. Lisa is a scholar in American history. When you look at things that the conservatives pick culture wars that there really losing something is going wrong in the society. By the time they engaged the though Morris basically lost the causes basically lost in America despite natures can be more inclusive, more open, and in fact your one time and excluded Catholics exclude Mormons exclude Jews and now all these people and groups are part of our societies in an Supreme Court dominated by Catholics and Jews. I lets listen to another quote from Prothro.

Here are some concerns to the infidel Jefferson be elected to the presidency with an alarmist in the Hudson be the seal of death is that moment set in our holy religion, our churches will be prostrated and some infamous prostitute under the title of the goddess of reason will preside in the sanctuary is now devoted to the worship of the most high. Outside the church is Murray robbery, rape, adultery and incest will be openly taught and practiced, prophesied the cut in Connecticut current the American people.

A Christian Federalist from Delaware and it would become more ferocious than savages more bloodied than tigers and more MPS from pious then demons. This is if Jefferson and his party get elected in 1800. That's how bad things would be one more quote from the book Prothro writes this court in one publication Connecticut current August 18, 1800, with the Mr. Jefferson believes in the heathen mythology, or in the Koran Koran with a he is a Jew or Christian. But he believes in one God, or in many or none at all. Not sure that it's it's asking it's questioning this can America survive was such a man in the White House. Indeed, some New England minsters also saw a conspiracy afoot between Jeffersonians and the order of illuminati secret society freethinkers and supposedly mastermind of the French Revolution was now dedicated to creating a post Christian new world order 1800 warnings and concerns. No actually the second great awakening erupted during the terms of Thomas Jefferson. In many ways America ended up being more Christian after Jefferson than before. As for Yale, they experienced great revival. The student body was basically non-regenerate and at least half of the campus converted in God moving in extraordinary ways, like a little heaven on earth is as God was moving and this happen. God moved up around the spirit and and. And then, in addition to that Jefferson, who had a very difficult election the first time gets reelected by a landslide in guises, an American hero's or are we getting overly concerned and and maybe we should just forget the culture wars and focus on revival and renewal in with the culture go where it's going to go but about concerns about the new world order. Well, Ron Howard Brown evangelist Pastor Rodney Howard Brown back in 2016 in March explained that he saw God's hand on Trump for the election that everyone thought he was crazy that he said Trump would be the only will it be a real threat to the New World order. He said we can elect Hillary Clinton we can elect Bernie Sanders that would be disastrous for America and anyone thrilled Republican candidates why none of them would do it in the following Trump would do is lucky what you see is what you get with Donald Trump. That's who he is and and he's not gonna back down to this.

That is going to fight against the world system and so on. So Rodney Howard Brown was on the Jim Baker show not not too long ago and they had this interesting exchange your missionary but your evangelist is left to America is, and we this headline today if Trump doesn't.

When we are officially at the end of the country as we know it. Do you believe that yes but it's gonna go the way they thought because it didn't go the way they felt in 2016 because emotion with Don and when I sold the candidates lined up an ongoing arsenal him. The Lord said, my hands on them. Memories of him as a wrecking ball and these can win. And everybody's, that was crazy you know. But listen to Vince Jeremiah chapter 1 verse 10 then the Lord put forth his hand to touch my mouth and the Lord said to me, behold off put my words in your mouth. See, I have this day secure over the nations and of the kingdoms watches now to root out to pull down the destroyer to throw down, and then build and plant one every most minister want to build upon. But you can't build upon to be done. Root Apple down destroying from throw down if you can ability building here is to clear all the stuff out and so it's all the stuff that's already been built that we need to blow it up. You know I tested the present site. God is a wrecking ball end of a miracle disturbed this a few months ago. She said Trump is all but destroyed the New World order. So this is why they are frantic to stop the agenda because it's sitting New World order back dictates it begets another four years yet so it is this a repeat of the same warnings. The same concerns go back to your 1800 blown out of proportion much to do about nothing chicken little saying the sky is falling when it's not really falling or things perhaps different today.

Perhaps more urgent. Perhaps the elections now or more stark in contrast of values, so I want to share one more quote with you from the student Prothro book and then explain to you what is actually happening in the culture that raises some serious questions so Prothro writes his sociologist Nathan Glazer put it, we are all multiculturalists now most high school students remain religiously and culturally illiterate in today's college students look very much like the young people. Allan Bloom described roughly 3 decades ago on the closing of the American mind know it's very negative description, pop culture, especially as going over to the liberal side and Prothro's view, that's the way it just drips in America movies today make the sort of entertainment decried by the moral majority look like it's a wonderful life modern family sitcom featuring a gay couple and celebrating the diversity of American families 15 straight Emmy awards for best comedy series. The HBO hit girls is clothing optional in transgender stores now grace the cover of entertainment weekly. Reagan may have been a tax revolutionary but wants to come when it comes to cultural politics.

The Reagan revolution is a misnomer.

Quote the left was never in danger of losing the so-called culture wars, writes historian James Livingston at the end of the 20 century the United States was much less conservative than he been in 1975 American culture. Prothro notes is much less conservative now than it was in 1999. Will that actually underscores the urgency of the hour. That actually tells me that the warnings we been sounding have been accurate and true and real. That actually tells me we haven't been like chicken little saying the sky is falling because the sky has been following it, because things are happening in our culture that would've been unimaginable 30 years ago but alone 50 or hundred years ago. Things are happening today. Look, we have aborted since Roe V Wade roughly 65 million babies.

That's 13 times the population of American Jefferson says about 5.3 million 900,000 of the population being slaves. So think of that.

Yes, thank God we put slavery behind this and end segregation and a lot of racism behind the still ways to go there.

That's all positive, but come on