How Big Was Netanyahu's Win?

If you think things are messy here in America with our presidential elections. What about what's happening in Israel while will take it up today stage for the line of fire with your host activist and author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown. Your voice is more cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry getting to the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown my friends for joining us on the line of heart thoroughly Jewish Thursday when I was doing a promo for the show today. I didn't even realize it was Thursday ready getting back from Australia Tuesday night has cut into this week but so glad to be with you 866-34-TRUTH 866-34-TRUTH 7884. A lot of ground to cover today and as always if you have a Jewish related question. That's the only qualification for Thursday usually can be Hebrew Bible question Hebrew language question question about Judaism and Israel today. Questions like that messianic prophecy Jewish background to the New Testament. All that is good for a Thursday. Otherwise, you can save your questions for Friday when anything goes.

Also little over an hour from now. So for 15 Eastern standard's about an hour and 11 minutes from now will be doing the you to chat if you have random questions, different things one interact with me about prefer to just do it in a chat format rather than calling in. That'll be on her ass. Dr. Brown YouTube channel. Ask ADR Brown okay Israel has just had its third major election in a matter of months and less than a year. Three major election salt picture everything going on in America now and the primaries and the battles and the backing for the repeated and repeated and repeated. Now, as I quite that bad and that we knew who the main players are, but Israel.

You have many many different political parties elect to you don't have to read on. If I do not have tenure more than that now only several what will actually get enough votes to get seats in the Knesset in the parliament right but basically you can have 1012 parties that that get enough votes to get in and maybe 20 parties running for for votes. So how does it work in those that are familiar first forgive me for explaining this again, but in Israel, the Knesset. Parliament is 120 seats right to form a government, you need to have a majority. Another could be a situation where you have 60 seats and there's a vote to accept that but otherwise you have to have a majority's you need at least 61 seats. Now you don't vote for people you vote for parties that the parties are represented by people so everyone knows Likud party represented by Benjamin Benjamin Netanyahu will know that and then we know the blue-and-white party announces the second largest at the moment and and gone since the leader of that but you vote for a party to your party policies you vote for party you say so your party has to get 61 six will that would be ideal except the Sica happened with so many people dividing the votes. So what happens is, let's say that you get 40 votes and in the next closest a party gets 35 votes or 30 votes so you with 40 now you have to try to make a coalition Kate this party over here this party over here. Can we work together will only join your coalition if you agree to this this this well not well only join your coalition. We want these benefits, and so you then have to negotiate so on the one hand, Netanyahu is been a very strong leader for Israel. In many ways, he is helped with international relations.

In many ways he has helped the economy in many ways, he is helped security.

He is the longest reigning prime minister in Israel's history is a lot of good. Obviously, that the Palestinians don't like him and others don't like him, but in many ways he's been very successful, very strong, very good. On the other hand, in order for him to form a coalition now. Basically, he has to rely on the ultra-Orthodox Jewish parties Schauss and United Torah, Judaism, and those parties will push for certain benefits and certain certain oppositions and things like that. One is the want the ministry of interior, which would mean having control more influence with immigration, which means they can be more crackdowns against messianic Jew so that's that's a decided negative for that reason, and other reasons, the ideal would be just the turnout forms a coalition with blue-and-white recruiting blue-and-white and they've got out of a dominant coalition. They don't need anybody else but at present, the Sica happened so with each of the last two elections. Neither Likud nor blue-and-white got enough votes or enough seats so that they could turn around and form a coalition with Summit no longer work with you on your work with you and the issue that with Netanyahu is that he's been indicted and he could face three major corruption charges within two weeks. Now if he gets in and and has enough votes enough seats to form a coalition.

Then what happens is basis, say where in and rediscover and nullify any rule now to break just a little bit more but the first time around recruit skews me very very narrow margin of victory over blue-and-white numbing neck and neck, but neither one could form a coalition first shot. Likud second couple can do it second time around blue-and-white passed Likud. While so that now there the front was, they can form a coalition so that 1/3 election and Netanyahu's a master campaigner.

Netanyahu is kind of that's his rhythm to be out there campaigning reconnected with a lot of Likud voters pressed to get a few thousand extra votes here a few thousand ex-roads. There and ended up with Likud having a major victory.

Netanyahu called it the greatest victory of his career.

The problem is there still short of a coalition unless somebody else is willing to join in and and join since that's basically what's what's happening so just looking at some headlines here so yet the scope of the graphic up for those who are watching the break it down for everyone else. The, the voting is as follows suit, Likud 37 seats. It was a size 37 but 30 at a size 38, 37, at the moment. Then couple of ounces blue-and-white. That's 33, 33, then next is the joint list which is 14 1/2 or 15 that's very significant. The Arab parties have joined together and this is the strongest showing they've ever had in the Knesset now so this represents over 10% of the Knesset problem is neither of the other parties leading personal work with them for coalition but they have they've they've made great progress there. Then Schauss nine seats that Sephardic ultra-Orthodox and then United Torah Judaism. That's a Ashkenazic others so that's eight seats then Yisrael betaine that seven seats disrobe a Taino is a strong nationalist party. Right-leaning nationalists put more secular with a lot of Russian Jews and then young Mina with seven votes and and labor merits was 6.5 lit labor used to be the biggest party labor was the strongest party and labor even join here with merits's is reduced to very little that would be more to the left you Mina still to the right.

So even you have all of these are excision of the strong majority is centrist to the right, to the extreme right you don't have a large representation for the left or the extreme left, which is really really interesting to see the way things play out.

Israeli Jews are much more conservative in their voting habits than American Jews. As far as right wing left-wing on various issues of the oldest to see here okay here's here's the newest development and let's grab this headline from Jerusalem Post. Netanyahu now claims that Benny gone's is trying to steal the election say how's he doing are okay are you ready for this ready for what happened.

He is now introducing a bill to the Knesset to say that someone who is under indictment family Benjamin Netanyahu someone who was under indictment cannot be the government so another words we can avoid the election results will avoid them or Likud is gonna have to appoint someone else to lead and then you know will work with someone else, but so if you and Anne Lieberman who leads disrobe a Taino. He has said yeah I'm to go along with backing this which means there is major momentum to back this and if if the Knesset voted in that way it would just avoid the election and the voice of the people because the people basically said the once it came out and voted for recruiting.

Given the strong victory, the people basically said we don't care about the indictments either. We don't believe them. I centrist America got all these charges of corruption. Okay either. They're saying we don't believe them or they're saying they're not important.

So what corruption tortured it's it's insignificant.

Netanyahu's a strong leader, we need him at the helm of our country, so it is really really interesting to see what's going on. Full no one really knows for sure. Again, the ideal would be that Likud forms a coalition with blue-and-white and they've got massive coalition out right. So between them. Over 70 seats they would have an there you go. You don't need any other parties you don't have to make concessions to this group were to that group and you can just leave the country but blue-and-white said no, no, no, we will as long as the tongue. I was literally could be won't work with. We will work with Likud will enforce 1/4 election. This anybody wanted to name in stomach that you have to understand that. Basically, the government is paralyzed from doing a whole lot because it's counseling them in the midst of elections without a a a strong without a a strong government that's actually function because you don't have a coalition government that is functioning so it's it's it's a real problem. It is a real massive problem. So on the one hand great victory for Netanyahu as far as tremendously successful campaign. He did what he does best. He is a master politician but were to play out. Don't know what glance it one more headline let's see Haaretz reports this about the Israeli Arabs how they achieve their historic election when and it's it's called an earthquake.

That's how it's being reported. Earthquake.

Arab Israelis deftly came out in droves.

The selection got an extra boost from Jewish voters.

The result is a record number of Arab lawmakers, including five women. Hey, I think it's great. Overall in terms of its representation of the population and they neither for representation.

The Knesset that's that's positive excellence of obviously a lot of them have views that are radical and negative, which is not excellent so I'm glad that they have representation and they actually they actually felt so pushed away by Netanyahu and marginalized that that brought an uprising of support.

I'm glad they voted.

I don't like some of the policies and views of some of those in the joint list, however, that said because they were here all is a rabbi that is after I error on the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution of your exam is Dr. Michael Brown in the early Jewish Thursday on the line of fire to get usually questions.

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You would think that this is something conscious going on forever and ever and minutes is let's just say this if you believe in eternal conscious torment as what happens in hell. This passage says it is clearly as any passage be because it is an ongoing saying that people are subjected to forever and ever and you can't send any more strongly than forever and ever present said other passages throughout Scripture, should be looked at. Along with this.

That's what you normally do in the symbolic and and and apocalyptic passages within Revelation so from the fourth chapter on in the book of second and third chapters or messages to the early church is there that we can apply just like we apply the letters and epistles and things like that as they fit as the shoe fits. We where it with the general symbolic language. The numbers things like that.

If this drug us to sort that out in the light of the rest of Scripture and not destroy doctrine specifically from symbolic language. Hey thank you Robert.

I appreciate it very much. 86634 let's go to Jerome and Shelby, Montana.

Welcome to the line of fire. Thanks Dr. Michael Brown. I appreciate you taking my call.

I really also thank you for your ministry. Everything you do. You're very welcome. I recently read your I finished reading your book hyper great and I posted I reviewed Amazon know that's where you and I also posted a review to get a good read like a great time and had knit one on Amazon as well.

My question is a bout the understanding of gray in Jean for vacant notes, early Jewish Thursday the finding that balance between antinomianism and legalism. I know there were parakeets that use the PSTN eval at all and ingenious. Today I'm different NGF 13 oh cannot grab the mall and paid.

This is my you know what I'm doing out of my ministry and bring in the father kingdom. The father's will.

All this and you know when you grab somebody like Peter and and company like Matthew and pay. Let's work together here. What would you say is the Jewish understanding of gray and how that would relate to to us in our day yet so it is a great question and it's difficult to answer succinctly because as you mentioned you have these different Jewish groups with different theologies and different applications of the law so and then we don't have full range of literature know exactly with the Sadducees, believed we have certain literature and Cynthia seems believed and assumed the Dead Sea Scrolls are scenes that we have a lot more there and what we get from the pharisaical literature, most of it.

We know through the writings of the later rabbis. So in the centuries that followed, so it's hard to say exactly what quote Jews believed in the first century, just like a piece of what Christians believe about baptism, what would you mean by Christian in which group within that you know that you can have a lot of diverse what Christians believe about the second coming and have a lot of diversity there.

That being said there was a concept of grace in terms of mercy and forgiveness that, from everything we can tell this was part of Jewish prayer life to regulate petition for mercy and grace. And it continues that way.

To this day that if you go through a Jewish prayer book called the sea door. You'll find prayer after prayer after prayer asking for mercy. Asking for forgiveness. And it's not according to our works, but according to your mercy and end. That would just be like Daniel's prayer in Daniel nine you weave sin.

We are wicked. But God forgive God have mercy. Psalm 51 you know I'm guilty in your site did guilty in your sight, but wash me, have mercy or Psalm 103 as far as the east is from the Russell force he removed our sins from us is as high as the heavens above your so great is his mercy towards us is a father's compassion as children, so the Lord has compassion on those who love him. These are concepts that are found in the Hebrew Bible that become part of the prayers of the people of Israel over the centuries. That being said, the grace concept that comes to its fullness through the cross.

Ghost a whole different level. The idea that the Messiah would take on himself all of our sins. All of our rebellion. All of our guilt and then would give us his righteousness. That's an over and above that something beyond grace within Judaism, so it would be wrong to caricature ancient Judaism as if it was completely legalistic because there were prayers for grace and mercy and appeals to the heavenly father as heavenly father were say in Islam.

One of the titles of his law of 11 title it a lot does not have his father a lot is never father in in Islam, but in Judaism God is the heavenly father. So there is more of that full familial appeal appeal for mercy and recognize that we live by mercy at the same time is a great emphasis on keeping the commandments and even the belief that every year on Yom Kippur, the day of atonement that your your deeds are waived and if your good deeds outweighed your bad deeds you written down for another year of life and a few bad deeds outweigh your good deeds then than you not written for the year five.

So there are legalistic aspects of it, but there still mercy and grace within it just not nearly the level that we have through the cross that it brings grace to a whole new level of meaning beyond anything that Israel ever knew, and anything that Judaism currently knows I thank you, I appreciate your answer and that for me… God bless and thanks for enjoying hyper grace and posting those reviews appreciated. 866-34-TRUTH.

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Thanks, rolling through the break. What your question though probably not you want to write. I think I'm crazy, but Matt 28 where out you know they were they brought the folder read that the Bible called the body to prevent audit data resurrection. My question why didn't you like don't believe that the disciple all the body are what they think about that right so there are searching for 2 million Jews on the planet today and there probably is a normal surmises if you have two Jews in any of three opinions.

So you got endless, endless, endless numbers of different views of first management is elderly haven't really thought about it and really thought of back issue through us.

Some might still believe the swoon theory you know that he appeared to die, but didn't really die others. Others would say the other disciples stole the body. Others would say we have no idea what happened to the body. And that's just the they wouldn't believe the gospel accounts at all pathos You need an Orthodox Jewish scholar said that he believed Jesus rose from the dead, but he didn't believe he was the Messiah, but that's it. That's an extreme unusual view so that you set believe Jesus rose from the debt that they follow him as the Messiah, but gathered there are some that would say the other. It's just what Matthew recorded that that the disciples did steal the body you know that that that's actually the truth made it look like he resurrected, but rather there many many different views and your average Jewish person really hasn't thought about it they don't do that on the silly believe the New Testament class now and things like that so did the best thing you know my resurrection book, though by God's grace, I believe will make some really strong arguments that I get a Jewish person thinking about he really did rise something really did happen.

He really did rise from the dead. He thank you for calling out let me go to an interesting story. It's reported on breaking Israel news and it says this Netanyahu wins election after rabbi predicts he will be Israel's last prime minister before Messiah so as we scroll down and read in the article. There is a famous rabbi, now deceased in Israel Hiscock category and he was one of the most highly praised rabbis in the ultra-Orthodox world died at the age like 105 or hundred seven something like that and claimed that he had met the Messiah a year before he died in with the cryptic message afterwards that some cities actually pointing to you sure being the Messiah.

But before he died, which is a few years ago and there are over 200,000 people came to his funeral before he died.

Apparently he gave a prophecy that Netanyahu would be prime minister for long time and then the prime minister after him. That's when the Messiah would come. So just another interesting story to me. The good thing is gets people think about Messiah talk about Messiah and opens us up another door for us to talk about the real Messiah the true Messiah to go back to the phones Claris or Clarice in Greensboro North Carolina.

Thanks for calling Dr. Brown how are you I'm great and blessed. Thank you my credit card occupation of Israel. Now I've been followed that God gave the land to Abraham. There were no without condition that promised that the Lamb will belong to. I wrap in a manner other than THE mat that are conditional on Israel having and living in the light.

My question to you where from a biblical standpoint. The people that lived there now on the land of info that I only biblically. I'm sorry have the right to live there. According to what you believe the Bible teaches about that yet absolutely categorically yes they do have the right to be there because it's God's land and God gave it to the descendents of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Now he then made the Sinai covenant after giving the promises to Abraham.

He made the Sinai covenant and in the Sinai covenant. If the Jewish people were obedient they would stay in the land if they were disobedient they would be exiled so we have been exiled for our disobedience and for sin over these many centuries is always a Jewish presence of the land. Some views there, but is Freud's living in the land and and and controlling the land and having this home at no that that had not happened. You say woman hang on.

Why am I saying that there back in the land and symbol of God because God gave the promises unconditionally as she said very emphatically, unconditionally, and what Paul explains in Galatians 3 that the law which came 430 years after the promise can't annul the promise whenever God wants he can do what he wants to do so when the Jewish people in exile in Babylon, for example, in Ezekiel 36 God says I'm bring you back not because your righteousness because my name is Mia Glassman I'm doing it for my purposes, even though you haven't fully repented. Yet so it's the same way today God is broken Jewish people back to the land by his will as his gift of grace. Not because of Jewish goodness. But because of divine goodness.

And that's the only way to explain Israel's existence today because let's reminisce one of the thing, when God closes a door.

No one can open when he blesses no one can curse when he curses no one can bless three closes during oak can open it. He opens no one can shut it when he smites, and we can heal. When he feels no one can smite if he scattered the Jewish people in his anger, then who can regather them. Nobody except the Lord so the fact that the Jewish people have been regather to limit their now more than 6 million Jews living in the land that happen one way only God himself did it in accordance with his promises. If you read Psalm 105.

You'll find several Street versus in the clearest possible ways.

God said he brought the people back it at it, the lands, their eternal possession rather it's a promise. It's a covenant it's something he swore. It's for a thousand generations.

So God is simply keeping his word.

The Jewish people are in the land because it's God's land and he said I've given it to you not because of their goodness, not because of the repentance, but because of their promises and their absolutely the rightful heirs of the land right now. Okay what I heard partway yet the fact is hard by quite yet the fact is has not! You wondered about it. Yeah, the fact is, there's no other way that the Jewish people would be back in the land right now… It's impossible historically and it's impossible spiritually that there is if if God curse them by scattering them that have a come back they can overcome divine judgment. They can only come back if God brought them back. But if you read Ezekiel 36 you'll see a similar pattern God brought the people back in sin and then in the land began to turn their hearts back to him more and more. Also, there's a short yet please please go ahead and start object. The card I I wonder about the power and have that strip of land that there girl I've lived and and I know people in my church. I haven't gone a mission trip there and have an outreach that area and are there just like one and I just wondered you know I don't know how God feels about that. You know I mean, is there any clear answer for that.

Yes, there is a clear answer that the land has been sovereignly given to the Jewish people and if the Arabs that live there want to live in harmony with the Jewish people, then there can be ways to live in harmony together and in other words, they were offered in in the 1930s the end of the vast majority of the people living there have not been there for hundreds and hundreds of years. The great bulk came in the late 1800s when I was migration increase as more Jews came back and were caring for the land. More Arabs came back and the population began to increase. This is pretty desolate. Otherwise, what a lot of people living there.

So some of been therefrom for many centuries, but that's a tiny tiny minority. More payment you know from different parts of the Arab and Muslim world, as is the land of Palestine was being developed so in the late 1930s.

They were offered a peace plan okay the at the Arabs you get the biggest part. Here Jews get this part here, you said yes.

Arabs said no.

The 1947 partition plan. Now some more room for Israel but also a homeland for the Arabs, the leadership said no. So this is happened repeatedly.

Otherwise there would be two states side by side, which is not ideal, but that would've existed. As for the Gaza Strip that you mention. The only reason that their problems there is because of the the Arab leadership is it the government of of Gaza Strip is Hamas, which is a recognized terrorist organization.

So what happened is that Israel pulled out they had thousands of people living there that live there for decades and develop the land and vineyards and and and orchards and built synagogues and things like that the Israeli government force them out and gave all the land over to the Palestinians and the Palestinians in turn elected Hamas as their leaders and started bombing history and in in the West Bank and Gaza. You have a lot of corrupt leadership adjuster Arafat Mahmoud Abbas so you Israel is far from perfect. We can absolutely call on Israel to to treat their neighbors as freely as they can as compassionately as they can, and to give them whatever rights they can give them so they can live in it in a self determining way, but the leadership has not worked with Israeli leadership sufficiently and when there have been viable. Peace offers they've ultimately been refused. So the main reason for ongoing conflict is a failure for the Palestinians to fully embrace your sovereignty Jewish homeland. Once that's done then there are ways to the killer. Please bear in mind, there will over 1,000,000 1/2 Arabs who live within what everyone recognizes Israel proper today. They now have strong representation.

The Knesset in the parliament. They live as citizens in Israel because they stayed within the land out rather than fled during the time of conflict in 47, 48 watch my video is God a Zionist God designed to assess God's eyes shot. It's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 6643 here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Sometimes the Jewish community can overplay the anti-Semitism core and can blame this in dad and other things on anti-Semitism and and even stifle jewelry criticism of Israel. Jewish people and claimants anti-Semitism that can happen in a group can do that but the fact is, anti-Semitism continues to rise in an ugly ugly ways in Europe and around the world.

Jew hatred demonizing of the Jewish people.

False caricatures of the Jewish people.

This continues the uglier and more extreme and will continue to lead to Jewish bloodshed. So here's a report from Spain is just even sickening to look at the images you have this parade in Spain and what happens is you. You've got folks that are dressed half like Hitler and half like Holocaust victims so rich there there dressed in in in what would look like a Holocaust prisoner uniform and but also like Hitler, you have this March in Spain with her March like this. There was another one.

Another part Spain, around the same time and then what a week or two before that a March in Belgium where they portrayed Jews as insects and in moneygrubbing's and things like that and I look the Holocaust Takes Pl. in Europe. Okay, it is not getting hyper or overplaying the anti-Semitism card to draw attention to these monstrosities because of what happened already and what's happened in the history of Europe and the persecution of the Jewish people must read by professing Christians your you're just making something out of this you're you're making too much out of this is some like that and this is crazy stuff. This is ugly.

This is despicable.

This needs to be exposed. Yeah, I'm just looking at some of the footage here.

I mean it's what's the joke what's the joke.

Two. Gosh.

Anyway just enough with that okay. That leads me to the Catholic anti-Semite you Michael Jones River. He was on the the show with me. I categorically different with positions he was putting forth, but appreciated him coming on a clear I viewed his eye, I saw his views is anti-Semitic and then subsequently starts blasting me after our references views as anti-Semitic as if I didn't do on the show as part of false claims.

A lot of the five for him and sensor which I repeatedly said I don't like his views but he shouldn't be censored things. These are apartment and I do believe that his views could easily to bloodshed but I may clear with her was bloodshed saying Impala, California, that the shooter is responsible, but I warned Dr. Johnson of one of his he could say or do Jews no harm, but then use everything else that follows people are.

You do Jews harm unstable people. People who think the Jews are the biggest threat. So I don't follow his website but I was sent this recent link just from a few days ago a look at what he says black Frankenstein turns on its Jewish creators right in his time of some of the black violence against Jews in a New York, New Jersey and he says this once again Michael Brown is hell be responsible for attacks on Jews last year was Pittsburgh and Pauly. This time it was Jersey City and Muncie New York. I leave the text up there, but Dr. Jones why do you find it necessary to lie. We have deep differences, we can focus on our differences, we can focus on different differences of substance and I continue to challenge you. Let's have a public debate as to whether your view should be characterized as anti-Semitic and not intellectual, academic moderated debate that we can live stream for the world to see. I'm sure there be tremendous interest in it. Why not do it sir. Why reduce yourself even further. Your anti-Semitic libels are bad enough, but why would use yourself even further by lying about. I did not hold you responsible for Pittsburgh or for Pauly or for Jersey City or for Muncie never did what I said was this is an example with with powerful example of someone holding to the same ideologies is Dr. Jones. That could get his talking points from Chuck Jones doing something violent.

I said I know I do is have read Dr. Jones so the problem is, sir. The things you say are so terribly dangerous and do provoke hostility. Jewish people and and so caricature and demonize the people to people that yes this could easily lead to violence by never held you responsible for any of those didn't mention you explicit what want to mention the contents of Black Hebrew Israelites in in in Jersey City. What's that got to do with with Catholic anti-Semite you. Michael Jones, nothing except their expressions of anti-Semitism that that would be okay, let's let's look at what else he says in order to make these accusations impossible against me. Amanda prefaced virtually every YouTube video ever posted on the Jewish question with a statement no one has the right to harm the Jew yet tell me you listen to 100 videos from from you. Michael Jones, or hundred interviews and you tell me if the major thing you walk away with this. Don't harm the jurors tell me that's the major thing you walk away with it certainly is not essential. Brown had to confect an overarching principle known as Christian anti-Semitism to condemn me for what I did not say Christian anti-Semitism turns out to be an oxymoron. If we construe racially were straightforward reading of the Scriptures. If we change the term to anti-Jewish Brown solution to the problem is banning hate speech as the ADL defines that term that means D4 D platforming people like me. Okay number one I can come up with the term Christian anti-Semitism. Jones your historian Scott you know this Christian anti-Semitism interments that used long before I was born, referring to persecution of Jews in Jesus name, demonizing of Jews in Jesus name under the rubric of Christianity demonizing attacking Jewish people physically or verbally or depriving them of various things.

It is anti-Semitic. When you demonize the people as a people. If if you say for example if you say the Jews killed Jesus. If you make that statement wasn't mean all Jews in the ancient world kill Jesus.

Jews living in different parts or all of them heard of Jesus. They all killed him. Killed him.

John killed him which Jews killed him Wednesday. The Jews that Devon all Jews through history.

Dr. Jones, you're surely aware of ugly statements made by Christian leaders through the centuries that blamed all Jews for all time for the death of Jesus, all Jews in ancient world, the death of Jesus. That's anti-Semitic that's anti-Semitic by say the Americans did that well. Some Americans did certain things other Americans didn't do certain things so first, it is anti-Semitism is classic anti-Semitism. It cannot be defined just racially that is not what the term is used meant for many, many, many years.

It is the demonizing of the people as a whole is the caricaturing of the people as a whole. It is speaking lies about the people as a whole. That is anti-Semitism, and Dr. Jones is exactly what you doing book after book and article after article and interview after interview sickeningly so, and it will lead to bloodshed, it will lead to violence, letting said why lie sir. Why lie I did not say you should be censored. I did not say you should be the platform I made it clear that I don't like what you say and the smaller audience you have, the better and the people decide not to listen to great and if others decide not to give you platforms because I don't like with yet is it that's their business. But you should have the freedom to say what you say on YouTube run social media or the place you should have the freedom to do it if it does not break our laws of speech in America is this is why Kunda if you are free to do this stand on the street corner somewhere or write a book and put it out. If you are free under American law, to do those things that I believe you should be free to say what you want to say social media YouTube is a platforms I met are certain things across lines. Obviously if you secure someone's address go to their house and bought their house.

Obviously that is forbidden and should be forbidden and people should be prosecuted for speech like that. But listen, I'm fully aware that as much as I deplore the anti-Semitism of Dr. Jones that the ADL differs with me as a Jewish believer in Jesus and and and one who is a Christian in the biblical sense of the word which often reduce their history, but differ with me on my views about moral and cultural issues and and someone want to censor me in the platforming so I am all for freedom of speech and and Dr. Johnson made clear over and again, and in fact of confronted you privately and written to you and said you misrepresented that's a lie that's false.

So I'm not sure why you keep doing it. The only positive is it further discredits the other things you say your conspiratorial theories you're blaming everything on the Jews and in the problems in society and so on and so forth. The fact that you do it and add some footnotes and doesn't make the lies any less ugly doesn't make the lives any less dangerous. Does it make the lies any less reprehensible. Dr. Jones step up to the plate, you're so sure your views are right and that they're not anti-Semitic.

Let's have a debate far you I just wear it proudly. If I were you I'd say yeah I'm Catholic and I'm in anti-Semite, absolutely absent.

If I were you, I just hold that position because that is your positions are those who say that you're not a faithful Catholic. That's for Catholics to work out that's not my issue.

That's not my issue whatsoever. But I tell you this.

Your lies will catch up to you because Paul wrote in second Corinthians 13 it we can do nothing against the truth, but only for the truth, sir, when you lie blatantly. It is not matters of opinion here. This is thing you said this use of this when I didn't. We can differ on views of the Jewish people. It's debated. Let's look at it factually historically. Let's let's look at the realities find let's do it, but we can't debate things that I allegedly said when I went through all the record says I did not say that I said the opposites of Sir repent spread lies about friends 15 minutes from now joining for exclusive use to chat right here on aspect around channel asked around 15 minutes will do it