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Do Biblical Words Have Hidden Numeric Meanings?

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Do Biblical Words Have Hidden Numeric Meanings?

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So what about the Montréal funding numerical values for the Hebrew letters in the Bible is a valid way of reading the Scripture time for the light a fire with your host scholar and cultural commentator Dr. Michael Brown your voice for more savvy and spiritual clarity 866-34-TRUTH to get him a lot of wire and now is your host Dr. Michael Brown are diving controversy today here on the line of fire and the phone lines are open one, 866-34-TRUTH. That's 866-34-TRUTH 87884 Michael Brown delighted to be with you, throw three back in our home studio. Anything you want to ask you about the Bible or biblical languages or biblical translations today. Phone lines are open 866-34-TRUTH 87, 84, but in particular will focus on the number of controversial methods of interpreting Scripture before we get into that couple things.

One week ago today I did it broadcast on revisiting the passion translation which emphasizes a paraphrase, not a translation and have had dialogue with Brian Simmons translated behind that behind the passion version I had dialogue with him. Subsequent to the show. He he did take time to watch it. Always appreciate his humility and desire to honor the Lord and he's taking suggestions that I've given very, very seriously. There are major revisions being made of a lot of scalding particular get as much as they can so that's Ms. Ray positive and let's see what comes out of it, but there were folks who criticize Melissa Dr. Brown. You didn't adequately take into account many of the claims that he's made about God downloading information or giving him special revelation or insights into Hebrew and Greek and things like that and pastor Mike Wenger cruised on so much research on this reached out to me as well and and said really. It's important to listen to all of us, so here's the deal. I was focusing on the data of always focusing on. Here's was written, and here's what he said here's the Hebrew. Here's the Greek I was focusing on that. That's what I was evaluating that's what I evaluated up to them. However, I absolutely recognize the validity of that challenge to say okay if someone says another thing Brian said this is not hypothetical. If so, says the Lord told me this was the meaning of this verse and now I show you lexically theologically exegetical he. That's not the meaning of the verse that would mean the Lord didn't show you right, synchrony that specifically about specific verses, I'm just making that point so that's totally valid. I agree here's the good news. Don't know when but Brian in the future would like to come on my show in his words, nothing will be off limits so we talk about his background. The Amazon River was really a Bible translator that did he claim that God showed him other books of the Bible did he claim him special help from an angel will will sort that out and I told Michael F. So do my best to listen to the relevant video quotes to have any oatmeal biblical have no idea. It could be your falcon B6 motion on the one but totally valid.

I agree with it. Absolutely agree all right what I think was a critical comment, but I did actually look through some of the comments some of its is best for the show was when I was I was looking for footnote in in the translation in Luke 11 and I collect where what was the out of focus real time, exactly what was happening just okay get the justification for that in any case. In any case, we will look at these issues because were talking about handling the precious word of God so what about Gamal Tria. This is a Hebrew word this is a Jewish method of interpretation or plays on words or finding hidden meanings or simply making homiletical points. It's based on each letter having a numerical value now. I don't know exactly how far back in history goes that the not the letters also function as numbers. It was not the case in English right we have the alphabet that we have numerical system, but in different languages, especially in the ancient world. The letters with the system you had so in that case a would be 1B would be to see would be three etc. so for Hebrew Olive bacon Magali Haven of Zion all the way up to the end of the alphabet. Each one represents a a number Siegel right up to 100, which is called in in the next one grayish is 200 Sharon, 300 top 400 and then you add them up. Accordingly, and then the same with Greek Alpha Beta Gamma Delta epsilon Zeta, etc. that goes a little differently so again Alpha one beta two and then role would be 100 Sigma 200 S. 300. This goes up to Omega with 800 and also skips 90 so you. So how would it actually worked. So to stand Hebrew.

This is that the numbers are used as letters and this is me. The letters are used as numbers question was Mrs. was raised with the mantra or those meanings.

Each letter having a numerical value are those meanings found in the Hebrew Bible, so can you say okay here's the hidden meaning of giving example. Let's just say the word for truth, added up to what we not disable us to say Olive is what Olive is one half the last letter we discovered coffee is right, 400 and let's see if you don't know you just look at pull up a website, Hebrew, Greek alphabet numerical values distant to see how accessible is totally accessible so you get that so olive one, ma'am. 40 and then toff 400 so 441. Let's say you find another word or a sentence where you add up everything the sensitive comes to 441 that's all about truth in the words that's how the game would work. The fact is, it is a game. The fact is you can make anything equal anything because there's so many ways to do it. You can take a few short words or words where the letters were of lower numerical value add those up together and get a larger word or word of higher numerical value you could take a sentence you could take a phrase you take any number of words and anything could equal anything. There is zero evidence that the Bible was meant to be interpreted like that. And plus over the century spelling conventions change, so just like when I was growing up, you spell judgment J you dGE M ENT and then the eavesdropped if you're in spelling and British English.

You spell color COLOUR we drop the you a while ago in American English for years if I wrote the word worshiping there be two peas now my spell corrector corrects the 21P which to me looks like were typing instead of worshiping.

But anyway, spelling conventions change we have that in the Hebrew Bible as well some things were first written to the final manuscripts that we have that were then copied and passed on studies change so that this was not about the specifics spelling to communicate a certain numerical value because Eddie every letter stood for a number no, what happens when you do that is the sky is the limit.

It can I illustrate this for you. Okay, this is Ariel. I said okay let's let's look at Yeshua. So you sure when you add up everything involved, you, you end up with 386, 386 is what you end up with for the numerical value of issue. You have 10 then you have 300, then you have 80 we have six then you have a okay 386 so I went to this website which I'm not recommending. I am not recommending the website. Gamal tricks with an exit.

The end.org and I typed in 386 value right shoe and and let's see what else comes up so they have this strange thing that they computed the claimant in Jewish Gamal Tria, Lord Satan equals 386 S. Pierce as was their list. And now they've they've gotten it broken up here alone or the SATA at this non-Jewish democracy.

Some of the system, but this just illustrate the point is not actually using Hebrew but just illustrate the point. So let's let's look at the list here of of what comes up so so this is Lord Satan and Camacho. According to this website. Here the names, or words.

London Dragon blackout. These all have numerical value 36 based on their system here okay April fools. I am of Christ. Pepe the frog catch-up 939 pattern. The mother states made of Christ equals last pope.

I am the Messiah perfume opaque. You refuse or refuse king of the gods. 399 tortious accursed Solomon Kane Everex horseshoe stretch Fritz Kroc blood names redeem the time, September 1, the Grail Kings semiotics regimen Ben Simmons, horseshoe. These take care Hungarian voices also moon became like blood rubies, satanic images you Jared Jemison first disco inferred to scuff process from wrestling DC license plate 5313 KT peace at last. You are our AL smile. Satan and Route are a you TE okay you get the point.

Whatever system they used the come up with the vertical value 386 for these letters.

You can come up with anything so if you're starting off with Hebrew and ancient rabbis that uses there were just like computers and their brains is Drew coming up with numerical values of the words right so anything can be anything I've seen attacks on Jesus because it's a means false. Beside he remains. This remains that are at numerical values of the skies on it. You say happy about, but isn't there no in the New Testament, the number of the beast is the number of man and that 666 and maybe 666 is numerical value of Kaiser in Greek, there could be one time in the Bible where the biblical author as that play on words which case either. Caesar is the beast or is the type of the beast, and you could argue that when Matthew divides genealogy into three groups of 14 will you repeat when they forget that the three groups of 14 that he could be going back to David Dollard five dollars and Hebrew 4+6+4 = 14. These are explicit with that but can't possibly watch what that tells you is that maybe, possibly you have two times in the whole Bible, where maybe possibly an author under divine inspiration makes this point that Jimmy is telling me. Don't mess with it the rest of the time.

This is absolutely not valid.

Gamal Tria is not a valid way of doing biblical interpretation. It's basically open door for you to come up with anything equals anything is a little with this demonstrate thought you have questions. 866-34-TRUTH the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown got on the line of fire by: 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown you have questions on any aspect Bible translation.

Tuesday's recent weeks we made a theology Tuesday with the text.

Tuesday digging deeper into biblical texts and biblical subjects have a question about picture grounded in the Hebrew letters of the originally pictograph of the secret pictographic meanings.

Just a general Bible question will take some calls as well. Today, 866-34-TRUTH it was really interesting.

I don't get to look at a lot of comments, but I do see some of the comments that come into her chosen welcome as much feedback as we can get our whole team does.

But I find really interesting so ferociously. Dr. Brown, this is this is your Lane stand this line just teaching Bible and theology in public controversies. Man this is don't get all the politics and culture meant please to stay with this and then forget flooded with other people saying Dr. Brown thanked all your addressing issues of the culture and politics.

If you do, who's going to do it at and so few pastors and Christian leaders do its essential that you do. We have a whole bunch other people saying Mike is so good that you're dealing with Jewish objections and apologetics. That's that's what you need to do and please produce more resources Russell.

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It's a day when we wear something that draws attention to our faith or bring something of Bible or something to work or school or look for an opportunity to share the gospel offer pray with someone or post something all the more clear on social media late resonate. Let it encourage but grow with. With more and more people saying hey I'm one of those two. Let it be known that were not ashamed. Let it be known that we won't be silenced or muzzled. Not ashamed of Jesus.org and then on that day would encourage you to post some things live on the spot as as you're getting the message out, but make sure you spread the word. I appreciate all the pastors leaders. All of her friends levers of social media, spreading the word. This make a difference every day with this be a day of proclamation okay the other day I reposted this on Facebook two days ago. It was my video about telling the truth about the Palio Hebrew script Mrs. pillow. He was in a language pillow. He was on a form of the Hebrew language is a form of the Hebrew script it is. It is the older script that would have been use that look very much like the Phoenician script with the script of the Moabite inscription or the Geiser inscription. These these ancient Canaanite writings, and then after the exile Hebrew shifted borrowing in Aramaic script, which is what you see in the Hebrew Bible, just in general have a website with with Hebrew. Does the square shaped the block letters was a square shape block letters and then of when you're doing certain study might reconstruct the pillow, he would've looked like this but I posted this. Did you know it it's a complete nut other myth that the biblical Hebrew letters carry hidden pictographic meanings they give us deeper insights into the text.

Myth repeated did you know that pillow he was out for some kind of ancient Hebrew dialect specifically refers to the inky rescript. He was able. Dr. Brown, you have to study the Palio Hebrew. It's up language that script just means was written differently. Okay so I say watch this and dip it in depth video for more please to get mad at me telling you the truth we got well over thousand comments to that video on YouTube and some got so nasty. We just had block people.

I mean nasty running gnashing their teeth because I just told them the truth know the moon is not made of cheese, don't get mad at me for telling truth in the path of the glaciers I would become correctly by telling you the truth is, it will get it want the original letters, pictographs in there would've been thousands of them right so you have a foot or leg a picture that that could mean walking or they could mean foot that I could mean leg to be up the word associated with foot or leg or some of those sounds, etc. so you need thousands of pictographs that the ancient hieroglyphs you have this to the Samaritan pictographs you need thousands of signs at the earliest Chinese alphabets as those develop. Those are those been condensed and shortened, but otherwise thousands of signs because the signs convey so many different things. Eventually, it became reduced and he rooted 22 letters in an alphabet and it the idea that the pictographic meaning still in here and here's his is completely impossible.

Why, because you cannot convey meaning with 22 pictures you can have every kind of possible option as to what you actually mean in trying to convey that and he was gonna read anything into it just the way you can communicate with any clarity you say no, but that that the hidden meanings are still interested. There is no hidden meaning and we know this for fact because nowhere does the Bible lead to any such thing. In the ancient world. No one is alluding back to pictographs in these alphabets and is alphabet changed the letters no longer resembled the pictures at all at all. So originally, the, the pictographs from which we get the letter major from Byatt house look like an enclosure of some kind is as written warm over the years just look like an enclosure at all like his, doesn't mean enclosure just means but suit you took the first sound of the word right so but by okay the doll it for for the word for door.

But as it's written and passed on, it just means the it's all this mean Dort. This means.. In our English alphabet is appointed out comes from the same Phoenician alphabet and RR here. That's why olive bait gimbal doll. It in Hebrew and English ABC D and in Greek Alpha Beta Gamma Delta is at all, the Greek alphabet comes from that are alphabet comes from the Greek alphabet also ultimately going back to their respective Phoenician, but it'll pictographs and English not so-so.

Some people asked with sincerity that they they heard something that interested them and they asked with sincerity. So here what one gentleman posted this comment Jeff he said so words like shalom don't mean destroy the authority attached to chaos. That's exactly as complete nonsense. It's bogus. It's a myth like I easily demonstrated but but let's go right to the site that Jeff looked at select again if you're if you know Hebrew and Greek you read these your interest in language, you know, the pictographs have no meaning. Okay there is not restricted Hebrew scholar on the planet that would ever argue that within the biblical text. We should actually look for hidden pictographic meanings.

Okay, we just know anyone we should look for it and in English. So here's a so I click on the page and I go there and it's his peace, shalom will first this is mispronouncing the bid along Shaw shalom shalom, let's let's put that aside and it says the shin represents two front teeth and can mean sharp eat consume separate or destroy will hang on where to get there from. Okay let let's say that it comes from word for teeth and originally looks like teeth. Okay, let's just say that and then the word for teeth beginning was show so is just shut that all also it is a shop, but who told you it can mean sharp or eat or consume work separate words for what you get that from who told you where in in ancient Hebrew lexicons to tell you this, where in in ancient sources. This attentive with which the Bible says it's it's admit it's imagine it's good it's made up.

It simply made up conglomerate is a picture for Shepherd staff. The shipper use establishes authority of the sheep directly to becoming teach, lead yoke move forward authority who said that who said it could stand for teachers strong figures out the father represents a tent peg or nail it means to secure the hook but also mean peg in at one a come up with more meetings for skies, linear, I assure you the means for shin or imaginings. Some of them the ma'am illustrates waterways as nomadic people. He was there understand the ways waters of the oceans of the letter came to mean chaos mightier book.

Who told you this, where's this information, this is myth. This is made up. It is actually made up. So now you ready for this so together the suit. So now we have the shin right. Shabbat shalom. So peaceful Sabbath good Sabbath together. The word signified to separate to the house of the covenant with the authority that establishes chaos has been destroyed and rest of the Lord. Please that you might as well say it means the cow jumped over the moon and had a hallucination that it was Elvis Pressley and return to earth in a UFO and ran for president, incarnated as Donald Trump you you can read any you could make this mean anything of the Lord gave me is the setting aside from the Lord. That's bogus. That's making things up.

And by the way, if the whole thing with shalom and will interview the Volvos in there and it represents pseudo-certain thing in securing it while the route is shalom. That's the route from whence comes the Volvo is not there and that route has to do with peace or wholeness. You need the vote for that and then you come up with other forms of of the word verbal forms for your adding and taking we letters that doesn't change the meaning. It just changes the aspects of it, etc. I did this review did this or you did something related to your piece your welfare when you read the pictographic meetings. It makes nonsense and think it is complete myth.

And yet when I tell it to people.

Some get offended.

Some get angry so call me a heretic friends. What we doing this in the Bible enough what the myths to the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown got on the line of fire by calling 866343. Is Dr. Michael Brown lies or if you have a Bible related question theology related question translation related question of any kind, 866-3487 884 is number called open up the phone lines like we do on Friday so got questions, we've got answers we've been debunking some myths when it comes to understanding the Scriptures and people looking for hidden meaning in the Hebrew or the Greek I'm I'm all for digging into the text.

My doctoral dissertation focused on one Hebrew word, as it were, through the Hebrew Bible and the concept in the ancient near East.

I've written detailed academic articles on single Hebrew words of Doug as deep as I know, headed digging multiple lexicons and multiple languages and multiple commentaries, and above all on my knees on my face asking God to open up his word to me and I prayed the prayer from Psalm 119.

Many a time doll a knife a beets and the float retorts has to open uncover my eyes that I may behold wondrous from your teaching from your to raw so may the Lord open our eyes and open heart and open her mind, but it's not going to be something beyond what is written on them in the Holy Spirit. In a speech about something in your life.

It's not related to a text in the Bible were so speaking to to speak, but it is not gonna reveal a meaning to in the Bible that when God said Latina off don't commit adultery with that actually meant was the ultimate spiritual adultery but by all means sleep with your neighbor's wife know is it's never going to be that at and it's not going to be adding to the Scripture. So, for example, in John 11 was a Jesus wept while if you could really understand the Greek what it would actually mean is that Jesus began to sob uncontrollably. Then he began to felt fall to the ground as he fell to the ground. The sobbing was so intense that it created a river in that river than begin to flow out to the cemeteries and that the river of life and of his tears begin to bring other people back from it from the dead know it means he wept, know that the Greek may speak of it in a more vivid way and and and it may be more concise or something in the Greek has multiple different ways of referring to, to love Hebrew has love and like expressed by one word right so you and you have other aspects of things but each language expresses itself differently is a myth to think that Hebrew and Greek contain mystical meanings which can only be uncovered by understanding the numerical letters of value of the letters or the alleged pictographic values of the letters that is myth and it's telling me that we can't sing. His word is not sufficient. By the way, every time the Bible quotes the Bible every time Jesus of the apostles quote the Bible to quoting the Bible for it says that they're not quoting it for a hidden numerical meeting recording it for hidden pictographic meeting recording failures, reasons why because those those meanings do not exist in those meetings are an example of the sky is the limit, it go through the video we took. We took time to put that together with lots of illustrations and was a bit painstaking to do, but we did it to be valuable to serve you. Just go to my website Esther to Brown.org and just search for pictograph pictograph. It'll get you to that video. Watch it through and again there is no ambiguity about this Dr. Michael Heiser appreciated the video and and immediately posted something in her confirming this, that it is a civil that's your problem. You're looking at this all heart and no mind but excuse me, all mind and the heart cusses. Excuse me if all heart know why but right so is that your problem Brown you're just this is all head to you. There's no heart know you don't know me you know Mobile you know my relationship with God. You know the hours I spent basking in his presence before it my heart to him and just how much I love him and enjoy him and adore him. Love the moving of the spirit in love with the Holy Spirit speaks accent and brace that 24 seven so be it. I love God with all my heart and all my mind. You don't turn your brain off when you read the Bible. Why even have words what I just told the Bible to your chest and go moon speak to me Lord speak to you opening. We got to speeches or the Bible. Don't put the Bible on your pillow at night and sleep like that old Lord speak to me to know before you go to sleep open the Bible and read it and then signal for modest understand and most of the time. Most of the time it's not primarily that we don't get with the words mean.

Sometimes that's the case in verses that are disputed and difficult to translate that they can be the case, but most of the time it's getting it in our hearts we can live it. It's it's getting it in in mind and heart so we understand that we obey that we get it we take hold of. Okay, so check out this interchange on on Facebook. This was in response to my post about pictographic meetings right that they they do not exist in the Hebrew text, so a woman name and post this in response. You don't know the language it is kind of funny flexing on the nose on my face from a mustache, but okay. You don't know the language, but I thought this may be room in about an emotional get to interact with comments, but this post I decided to was closed and interact as I had opportunity still limited time, but as an opportunity so I responded with your joking, correct. She responds know I've seen silly things you claim you written, claiming that Carne Balsam is not cannabis Balsam, and that alone disqualifies you from questioning Max had nothing for May the Lord help this woman.

May the Lord help her to embrace truth.

The fact that I tell the truth. The fact that Hebrew lexicons without exception. The people that work for decades studying the language in classifying things and putting words in the dictionary runs right scholars from all backgrounds Jewish Christian that they will tell you the same thing. This is nothing to do with marijuana.

This is nothing do with cannabis like that.

I say it now disqualifies me from being taken seriously. Okay so I decide let's let's have a little fun here so I posted back extraordinary wow wow wow.

Of course the Hebrew is not cannabis but tell you what is my PhD is interestingly just literatures number numerous scholarly articles on aspects of the Hebrew languages this from your recognized Hebrew scholar acceptor claims and thanks for making an item really was like you got to be kidding. So this is a response.

There's a difference between regurgitating facts and understanding assets so the fact that the words don't mean something is meaningless. Concrete assets get the essence. Hebrew letters are alive. They all are their own meanings and then these movies are multifaceted other words the skies the limit, I might as well say I'm not.

I'm going to regurgitate the facts of what she wrote him to understand the essence of the essence of what she wrote is Dr. Brown I think you're an amazing person and I'm so glad that you're speaking the truth about these cloudy issues and helping us that are led astray, I could make her say whatever I want. Or I could read between the lines and say Dr. Brown I judge you to be an idiot because I love pot and I will use the Bible just funny. Do whatever you want with it.

But once you say the words no longer have meaning that you have the words are alive so the Hebrew Hebrew letters there are alive because their life they can change they can morph right so do I cannot I write up hello nice to see you on a piece of paper and then turns around and says get out of my Hayes house. I hate you words are alive mean we've got expose this nonsense and the fact that when I dress these things we get such a flood of comments this bizarre this out there and then from sincere believers who are seeking one of the truths ahead just one understand the truth.Robbie patient adjuster understand truth try to give, it would have to understand is that even the discussion of it should be had under you may be misled now. Macrina rightly lead to but there's nothing to debate.

I am breathing air.

Right now I I am. I am not breathing, Coca-Cola, I'm sitting in a chair.

I'm not flying an airplane that's short, non-debatable issues when it comes to these things, so she continues. Have you ever studied the Zohar Julys that Adam and Eve's creation was described ingratiate chapter 2 were cannabis plants for all God help this woman. She posted publicly.

So talk about publicly. So did you get that this of studied the Zohar by the way, so Adam and Eve.

This is this I don't know the language is the problem of ignorance of the real meaning of the language Adam and Eve were not actually people described in the book of Genesis chapter 2, but they were actually cannabis plants have yet to have a discussion with someone who releases when anything can mean anything heavy of discussion and might, might I posit a guess here.

Might I go out on a limb here, sarcasm alert, my I posit a guess that perhaps the smoking of cannabis contributed to some of these interpretations. I got some amazing insights when I was high on LSD. In fact connect you guys can I share this on once while high on hallucinogenic drugs and huffing diesel gas before I was say yes before I was saved but 16 years old I discovered the secret of the universe and the secret of all movement in the universe. Yeah, I discovered that smoking of stuff, but enough stuff in your system, you'll discover all kinds of things. The Bible says be sober, sober. She says, and are you deliberately disseminating misinformation. I confess I know currently disseminating the misinformation that Adam and Eve were human beings, not cannabis plants. I am deliberately doing the Hebrew can a person says hemp Balsam false false.

It does not which we call hashish you nose if you know Hebrew. I know it does not say that because I know he chose to reveal your deceptive intent by claiming a parallel factoid like Snopes does do enough sense of shame to stop so I just posted May the Lord, be merciful to him and we can heart the truth the fantasy and then just remove the comments is that the type of stuff is this not appropriate on her page, but we did take screenshots first disasters one person first. Jesus died for everyone meaning for one person and for everybody bothers me agrees me when one person is deceived, but that's spirit of not accepting the facts.

And while some deeper revelation of who that's prevalent in the body. Today, especially my charismatic circles wake up friends. This stuff is dangerous.org will get two days until national not ashamed of Jesus.

Their first ever on April 14 to make sure you're not ashamed of Jesus.org all right to the phones.

Let's go to Isaac and Westville, Oklahoma. Welcome to the quantifier doing very well thank you. I would do get dormant of predicting Erica my own ignorance. I didn't read the Bible and before I got Dave I thought you made about a Catholic and as I continue on this journey. I was more like a father Baptist right of leaving the gift however the last few months of art as part of me that they are still very real. I watch a lot of your out stuff on YouTube about his speaking in tongues.

I can't do it and I'm, you can, you know, I hear Monica and I don't want to invite that stuff back in my life.

You know like witchcraft Bible as part of that and I doubt that when Jesus made me so I'm how do I do it or I look at the dirt.

I got a lot of people on YouTube and I got older sure. I'm glad the Lord put you in the morning is deception and I appreciate your desire to not just open yourself up to any spirit. So first, don't pursue tongues, pursue God right and then recognize Luke 1113, Luke 1113. Jesus said if you being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask what what is he say the previous verses what what man is there view of his son ask for bread, will give him a stone or PS4 fish, will give him a snake instead and then in Luke 11. If you being evil I could just your children, how much more than the quality of the Holy Spirit to those who ask him. In Matthew Matthew seven and ends with give good things to those who have so be confident in God.

That is, you ask your heavenly father Lord, fill me afresh with your spirit or give me everything you have for me so I can best glorify you that a demon is like an intercepted prayer. It's one thing if you say lots somewhere out there somebody send me some power known on those tests is not a biblical for I just want to feel something from somewhere. It may not be from above, but your print, your heavenly father right he's listening. He loves you and he knows how to give good things to you so he's not going to let you as you seek him for everything he has glorify his name and to to bless you in this world. She can effectively serve in his echo of the demon intercepted and next thing your your your speaking to demonic language in and under demonic power. So divest yourself of that fear and and seek God rather than tongues then understand the purpose of tongues. It is through the New Testament outside of acts to Paul breaks down the purpose and function in X12 and ex 14 it's primarily for our own communion with God. We edify ourselves we speak mysteries in the spirit to God. I had a prayer retreat this past week and I spent hours during the time praying in tongues and is in praying in tongues. My mind is meditating on the warden and things of ministry and then from there are praying in English work or or may be experienced travail real Groningen and weeping in prayer. So what happens is this you are not looking for some being to take hold of you and against your will to begin muttering sounds right or you just stay in a totally passive position with your mouth open when he for something to move out rather you worship God in you praying as you do if you sent something welling up in rising from within you and your relationship with God that some terrible ominous ugly thing, but just in relationship with God without harmony of fellowship you feel some begin to bubble up didn't speak out armor when I first spoke in tongues January 24 of 72 with a prayer meeting with maybe a dozen people there that I I was praying and I just was asking God to fill me with the spirit and I felt the sun rising often words come to my lips which I than volitional. He spoke and I thought that I make that up. You know you ever hear Scott singing in a butt up up at abuelita Bob but he readily could make that up right without a wireless but then it began to flow more and more errors. I'm not making this up. My mind is his thinking other thoughts and my tongue is saying all the words and I'm feeling the Holy Spirit rising in me and then I so while I can just keep doing this and it's beautiful and powerful. So let it happen like that. You just be open to the Holy Spirit, not to spirits in general but open to the Holy Spirit and let everything flow out of your communion with the Lord, for sure miracle performed the Lord of the liberty away from witchcraft by daughter for being a full-blown love the eye everything will miracle asked upper but get to talk my wife able to do it if you like tactile people, but if you're nearby. Don't know like the stuff you know it.

The Lord God of south of California Indiana figure to West Oklahoma to help a little Pentecostal church for someone to help build stuff that we do and I needed a drummer Moroccan Little drummer man I so that Christmas Isaac illusions jump in here which you can do is just ask the pastor. Let's just review the Scriptures again know what Paul said, I think on a speaking tongues more than all of you here you have the Corinthians who were actually abusing the gifting and using it in public. Just to deliver messages without interpretation and and he said I speak in tongues more than all of you.

So if if this was good enough for Paul and it wasn't no cultlike or occult for Paul then then be sure it's not cultlike or occult for you.

But again, don't put the focus on tongues but the focus on communion with the Lord in this will deepen and enhance your prayer life and your communion with the Lord as the leader stood prayer over you and if you feel it release go with it and you'll find the same harmony of fellowship you experience with the Lord will just grow deeper.

Great to hear about with the Lord's done in your life appreciate it all right. Let's go over to Mike in Fort Worth Texas where I was this weekend.

Welcome to the line of fire department are you doing well. Thanks Eric?

Might there be some years. During our conversation that we had you told me almost Scriptures that apply to Gentile. The Bible you there.

Whenever I questioned her talk about God you are brought up asked what want to talk yeah you all of the above noted approach of about 45 check out.

After some time out to you directly by Scripture that said to tell you what you so so Mike on the true, the source of his error and that was what got him thinking this way, but of course it's utterly debunked for many different reasons but but let's let's with Paul debunked himself okay so solicits. Let's do this.

Let's go to acts chapter 20 okay that never remember many of the sermons in in in acts are sermons to Gentiles right you have early sermons to Jews but but let's look at this.

Let's look at Paul's words and asked 20 beginning in verse 20.

I did not shrink from declaring to anything that was proper memories talking to the elders the Ephesian elders and teaching Republican from assets testifying both to Jews and to Greeks of repentance towards God and faith in the Lord Jesus. So the first thing is, he's telling you that his message was to both Jews and Greeks, then if we go back over to acts 26 that you mention right X 26 the Lord says to him, verse 17, I'm deliver you from your people and from the Gentiles, to whom I am sending you so this message is for the Gentiles.

Okay to open their eyes that they may turn from darkness to light there broke a rib, I was now to be distributed to the heavenly vision but declared first to those in Damascus, then in Jerusalem and throughout all the region of Judea and also to the Gentiles that they should repent and turn to God performing deeds. In keeping with their repentance, so politics is explicitly saying this message was for Jew and for Gentile and Romans 1012, Paul explicitly says there's no difference between Jew and Greek in terms of salvation, the same Lord is Lord of all richly blessing all those who call on him forever because of the name of the Lord will be saved and we know that within Romans there is a dispute with Jewish and Gentile believers, some of whom would consider certain foods, unholy, or they wouldn't eat them or certain days, holy and and back and forth and he was told about how to live together monies addressing Gentiles.

He calls them Gentiles as in Romans 11 chapter so it may be Mike based on his reference to Timothy's words, Michael, rightly dividing the word which really should be transit rightly handling that he may have fallen into some extreme form of dispensationalism, and in this extreme form of dispensationalism pretrip rapture the church is so separated from Israel and the church age separated from Israel that most of the Bible, then get separated from the church. It's incident in error on site hundreds of years old but it's a serious and dangerous error and of course the whole Bible is for all of God's people, as Paul indicates in second Timothy 316 certain passages have more specific application than others believe in the Gospels were written. He's written to be distributed to believers, Jew and Gentile alike.

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