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Thanks. Hey, my question is about the John 637 yes 39 Oregon and other Calvinist thing about that.

My question is John 1712, is that the film where Jesus says aloud let them in the world.

I Them in your name version you've given me. I lost on my accepted this at the seventh edition right so I guess so. So number one the argument that Calvinist would bring based on John 637 to 44 would say that the only ones that come to God are the ones that God brings to him and he will infallibly save them so no one else can come to him and those that he saves will not fall away, and therefore that would indicate Calvinism my friend James White has a whole book on this and he and I have debated these passages so the first question is in verse 37 everyone the father gives me will come to me and one comes from the recast out who are the ones that the father gives to the sun as if you read the previous chapters you will see that you surely is rebuking different religious leaders notice because they won't come because they refuse to come and enjoy him 112 it says as many as received him, to them he gave the power to become the sons of God, so it could very well be based on context.

Those who humble themselves, those who cry out for mercy. Those who recognize the need.

Those are the ones the father gives to the sun and then verse 39. This is the will of him who sent me that I should lose none of those he is given me but should raise them up on the last day right so we do have the exception to that writing John 1712. In other words, the father's purpose is that the sun loses not. There are some like Judas who've turned away and will not be safe. But as as you go on reading the passage. It is speaking of those who continue to believe verse 40. This is the will of my father that everyone sees the son and believes in him. This is ongoing faith on one-time faith may have eternal life, and all recent up on the last day who one who continues to believe then verse 44 no one can come to me unless the father who sent me draws him and I will raise him up on the last day will John 1232 Jesus as if I be lifted up meeting on the cross. I will draw all men to myself, so we cannot come to God as God draws us.

He has been drawing all of us to himself through the cross since Jesus died. There is been a universal pole call acts 1730 pulses, God commands all men everywhere to repent and give salvation to those who humble themselves recognize their need and call out to him and then as we continue in faith will be raised up at the last day so little respect to my dear Calvinist friends, it doesn't prove Calvinism and if you try to make an absolute out of it. John 1712, is quoted would would refute that already since that answer your question, Jerry. What other passage Outlook and was John 1889 where is speaking about the possibility set up told you that you therefore take me look at collective go the way and then that the saying might be fulfilled which you spoke of those whom you give me out a lot. Not just looking for things are you talking about the apostles or experts talk about everybody else right yes certainly in in in John 17 you can see that that's the immediate focus as as confirmed conference here and that they recognized that he was keeping them for sure.

But to make the larger argument from John 637 to 44 in support Calvinism.

In my view, breaks down based on the versus themselves and the rest of what comes before and after John's Gospel, but it is. It's always important exactly doing. See how the words are used by the same author in the same book because that's how we should interpret them. So thank you Jeremy appreciated all right 86634 let us go to Nicole in the Bronx, New York.

Welcome to the line of fire program, near Burke many years are my question what you on the idea that at the rapture mirrored the Jewish wedding and that your contract yes thanks Nicole and thanks for being with her ministry for so many years there. There are teachings that try to argue for pretrip rapture based on alleged ancient Jewish wedding customs or some would say specific customs that were found in Galilee, the time of Jesus. I have dug everywhere. I can in ancient Jewish sources.

I've talked to a colleague who is one of the world. Specialists in these ancient resources and none of us have neither of us I should say have any idea where this is coming from. In other words, there is no evidence from the ancient Jewish world that would support these arguments, you know, so I get online and I look at the websites and they say they just cite the customs with a never tell you where they're getting the information from so someone heard from somebody heard from somebody who passed it on, so no II don't see any support for that whatsoever I I would argue instead that it is the public call of the return of the Lord, that we are called to to calm that the bride is made herself ready.

Now the groom is approaching. Go out to meet him. So here's what happens.

The bridal party would go out to meet the groom it's reflected in the parable Jesus in Matthew 25 to do what to go away with him. No to escort him back for the marriage ceremony so when Jesus appears in the clouds of glory for the whole world to see when that happens we are called to meet the Lord. We meet him in the air and accompany him back. It is the just like the Emperor coming into the city that the gathering the meeting they would go out of the city to to meet him not to turn around to escort him back so we meet the Lord in the air that you turn around and go back to heaven but to escort him down to the earth, he establishes his kingdom and and formalizes his eternal bond with his people so that's understand it, Craig Keener and I in the book. Not afraid of the antichrist.

Don't spend a lot of time on that particular argument or issue initially because it's so nonexistent in the text in ancient Jewish sources, but we do emphasize this idea of meeting the Lord and escorting them back as he returns to. So just think it is Nicole instead of a secret event where you know you're at your computer at your job. One day in an Austin here behind the mic and Kristin taxi drivers driving his car and suddenly just nobody vanishes in the car crashes and people were what happened in planes crash because Christian pilots disappeared instead of that, this is trumpet call this the shaking the whole world. It looks and sees the Lord in his glory in the air right were waiting for his appearing. Not for an invisible event before his appearing ready for that trumpet blast were caught up to meet him soon the whole world sees it. We are caught up to meet him. We are the data in the sigh resurrected, we receive new bodies. We meet up in the air and the sand with them.

We establishes his kingdom on the earth to destroy the enemies of God, wow.

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Welcome to the line of fire around a lot for and collect the heard you talk about Craig in her article collective good.

Herman attic of the book is amazing at helping out on our wonderful yeah Craig Craig is a real gift to the body. What a great brother is here, but I have a question for you and trying to reconcile how Paul's gospel of grace and the gospel of the kingdom that Jesus was talking about in Matthew seem to fit together.

I know that they don't contradict each other. But I'm just trying to figure out how they fit together. Yet, thank you for the question.

So how does the gospel of grace which Paul emphasizes the gospel of the kingdom which Jesus emphasizes for together. First let's remember that the John 114 tells us that the word was made flesh, we beheld his glory, full of of the close one of the legal father full of grace and truth that Jesus is presented as grace and truth and grace upon grace in the gospel and of course, is the example of mercy and compassion, and long-suffering, but he comes with grace and truth, not grace or truth was John 117. The law was given by Moses, grace and truth came by Jesus the Messiah.

So that's the great emphasis of his life and ministry as proclamations. The kingdom of God is here, the kingdom of God is breaking it now. Paul says in Romans 1417 that that the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit and and he makes clear that the kingdom authority we have is the authority of the Holy Spirit and and and preaches the kingdom in that regard. No words that the Messiah's rule and reign.

And how do we come into that kingdom, we come in through grace, so the message of the kingdom of God is it that God is breaking into the world with his rule and reign through his son, that all people need to repent and turn to him as his kingdom advances and how do we do that, it's through grace by faith.

And it's interesting if you look in acts. The 20th chapter as Paul is giving his his final words to the elders of of Ephesus as they come to meet with him in Miletus he says in verse 21, I testified to both Jews and Greeks about repentance toward God and faith in our Lord Jesus.

Now I'm on the way to Jerusalem bound in my spirit. He talks about afflictions awaiting him. Verse 24. I count my life of no value to myself that I may finish my course in the ministry received from the Lord Jesus, to testify, what to what to the gospel of God's grace next verse, and now I know that none of you will ever see my face again.

Everyone I went about preaching the kingdom to verse 24 gospel of grace. Verse 25 speaks of the kingdom is no contradiction. This it's it's it's the same message just different aspects of it. Different emphases of it just like there's no contradiction between grace and truth.

So the kingdom of God has arrived to the coming of Jesus into the world and in his reign is extended over everyone that submits to him, and one day he will come and establish his kingdom fully on the earth, so repent and get right with God and receive his grace and mercy while amnesty is available. One of the same message just different sides of the same coin.

In verse 24 and 25 annex 20 put them side-by-side to Miss that. All right rights outside through thing, 866-34-TRUTH. Let us go to a jury kayak in Georgetown, Texas. Welcome to the modifier, shalom shalom hey Michael brought up a question about… Well, yeah, yeah got struggling with it and I really been talking to my Calvinistic body. Then I every time I talk to them about it obliquely and cry it out. They they accused me of being a thinner And that they pay that fate of the work, and basically I don't really understand it you will. That's a completely un-biblical notion. In other words, they did their monitors and percentages that were editing in human work is 100% an un-biblical notion with all respect to my Calvinist friends. What I mean well very clearly. It it it it it is explicit in the book of Romans that faith is not a work that faith is not human effort, a work would be observing the Sabbath work would be I stop doing drugs. A work would be. I fasted for week.

That is, salvation by works, and Paul explicitly says in Romans that it is by grace because it is by faith, not by works, so this idea that that this is its synergism in some wrong way that you are like adding to your salvation, or that it's complete nonsense. God has ordained that those who put their trust in the sun will be saved and that's why throughout Scripture.

He rebukes those who won't believe what he says you are just think of this larger issue where Jesus rebukes the leaders in Israel. In Matthew 23 and sizzle Jerusalem's use of verse 37 you killed the prophets and stone those sent you how often I longed to gather your children together as a hen gathers her chicks and rings, but you were not willing. I wanted to do it. I was ready to do it.

I stretch out my hands, but you were unwilling or or or Paul and the end of Romans nine according from Isaiah, God sent Israel all day long.

I stretched out my hands to but you were disobedient. All all day long I was making an effort to reach you and you refused all right this is over and over and over through the whole Bible, and the flipside, whoever's willing let him calm.

Those who received him, to them he gives power to become the sons go. John 112 Revelation 22 whoever's willing come over and over clear messages through the entire Bible and and then went when you keep reading.

So sewing in enrollments all right. I was just quoting the end of the of the 10th chapter of end of the ninth chapter of Romans, so, so, what is what is Paul say verse 31 Israel pursuing the law for righteousness is not achieve the righteousness of the law. Why is that because they did not pursue it by faith. But, as it were by works, so faith is a complete contrast with with works and then in the 11th chapter of Romans. Paul lays it out like this PC says in the same way. Then there is also the present time, a remnant chosen by grace now for by grace and is not by works of the was grace ceases to be grace. That's were saved by grace through faith. It's all a gift from God. And this is the way God is ordained and and and that's why he calls us to responsibility. Yet with all respect to my Calvinist friends went when you have met when we when you preach Paul's words, God commands all men everywhere to repent. They can't repent they don't have the power to repent, because God hasn't given it to them. So he's calling them to do something that it's impossible for them to do and then we if we say how must I be, say, believe in the Lord Jesus, you will be saved if God has given them the faith they can't believe any if they could believe what the plot of them. If Jesus didn't die for them, so you have to take all these simple and clear verses throughout the entire Bible from Genesis to Revelation and stand them on the head to mean things other than they mean to try to explain God's sovereignty.

God in his sovereignty set things up and said that you are saved by grace through faith and this is not a work it and and this is our response to God's goodness. God's mercy. It's called relationship and and again in the fourth chapter of Romans.

Paul lays that out that if it was something we work for that would be wages paid but it's a gift because it is by faith. So, point your Calvinist friends back to the Scriptures.

All right, all you yeah yeah current odd girl great daughter know why but they always accused you of being my plate. The haplotype of view of the Calvin, but I really predict you turn it with a look for those that watch the political scene. Name-calling is a good way of distracting permissions so the bottom line I'd look like a six year and save the Calvinist make gone to a monster in the cow and and in mock things because I got find Calvinist friends who love the Lord. Some of the greatest leaders we've had in recent centuries been Calvinist and and I are what God is done to them or categorically rejecting some his doctors but I'm like a resort to selling name-calling.

All right. And and tell you what you could my Calvinist friends will call me cynical age and whatever sale not save the some of the extremists to say what I'll stay with the word and enjoy wonderful glorious fellowship with Jesus and pray for his blessing on your life into the name-calling and whatever else they would Scripture a thank you, 866-34-TRUTH all right tell you what we got a break coming up. So here let's do this. James. Grand Rapids, Michigan. Could you ask your question now and I'll answer it. On the other side of the break. Apple product around.

Sure thing at a quick question.

There's been a lot of everything a lot of recent question toward the talk about reformation and in the Christian and the Christian will I been hearing that there is been Kate. The Bible teaches about reformation that biblical on up and that we should be doing and I would. What they good biblical response. We can give to people who are starting to push that narrative right so what does the Bible say about reparations, how would that apply to the current situation in America. If reparations were to be made to black Americans that had served as slaves or their office.

The ancestors had served the slaves, what's the righteous thing to do.

How should we respond to their question number and it's the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown your voice and more cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown is joining us so we have a question from James. James dropped us with: about reparations is it biblical to the biblical concept that we never rightly pay the slaves for their labor. In centuries past. In America there for black Americans today or owed reparations on the one hand, you can make an argument that if people were mistreated and abused, then there should be a making right of things that would be a righteous thing to do. Obviously right so you reparations to descendents of Holocaust victims from from Germany and things like that. The question here would be one if you if if we were trying respond in that righteous way and never done so before then what what would that look like today because we don't have those people we don't have their immediate descendents. We have descendents of descendents of descendents of descendents of descendents right. That's one thing a second thing would be whose whose paying out of his pocket, is the money coming in homage, child of immigrants. My mother was an immigrant. My grandparents, my father's side were immigrants so they got no connection with with that past.

So how does that work out those free questions to ask the other hand, you could say America paid its price by giving several hundred thousand people that that there was a war and Abraham Lincoln basically said that the these were really keep shedding blood until we paid for crimes that are are sensitive to paraphrase is much better, put words so that argument could be made that in point of fact is not a matter of making a monetary payment today because the Americans for the blood.

The Civil War are our most costly ever with what over half million Americans dynasties of the time an American population was a fraction of what it what it is today and and that this was to bring liberation to the slaves and to set things right. You say yeah but but what about the years of labor for which there is not proper reparation against it's a fair question to ask in terms of of a biblical mentality and as I would see if that that the right thing to do is to do everything you can to level the playing field to do everything you can to give equal opportunity not to say, to hire a black person versus a white person the white person is told to qualify the black person still be unqualified and cannot hire them and just in particular situation theoretical situation. I think that's the right thing to do. I think you have to keep looking at what's remains wrong in society. Lack of educational opportunities for for black kids in the inner city of reason is that family structure may still be broken down and enter look at larger questions to see what can we do to level the playing field.

To me that's the the ongoing righteous response and on the one hand, you can easily argue against the concept of systemic racism existing today and say look under laws is equal opportunity. On the other hand, we could say well to this day. Black Americans on average make less money than white Americans like Americans on average, don't have the same educational opportunities as white Americans like Americans on average are incarcerated more than white Americans, black babies are aborted on average more than white babies sis, so why is that why is that the case what what are the reasons for that. How do we address that. How do we as a community fix that in level things. That's the direction that I believe is the righteous way to go but it's it is as much is certain things and outrageous. I'm always glad to say let's have a discussion with an honest discussion, 866-34-TRUTH. Let us go to Atlanta Georgia County. Welcome to light a fire. Thank you Dr. Brown for regular call thing. I was actually looking forward to seeing you last weekend and critical about the event was canceled yeah yeah hi method not your fault the business. I was just speaking that year of a bunch of things than the potential fear of tiffs and hurricanes himself tendency in all that and covert issues. I, yeah, but doubling will be back there in the future or over to Atlanta hot yeah sounds good though. My question is big dolls or the one before, but the father got dumb are being told Angel the name, in your opinion, the same ones that are inching in the computer or better than relieved in revelations 914 right. I I believe that if we are correct in understanding the sons of God were angels that somehow the ability to take on human form and actually meet with women marry women with them producing these these giants if that's right understanding of the then though the world was judged and they were judged, and I would I would see them as is the same as mentioned in second Peter two for if God did not spare the angels who sinned and threw them down to Tartarus and deliver them to be kept in chains in darkness until judgment or also in in first Peter chapter 3 of the end of that chapter.

Peter writes this from us.

I also suffered for sins once for all the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring you to God after being put to death in the fleshly realm, but made alive in the spiritual realm in that state. He also went and made a proclamation to the spirits in prison who in the past were disobedient to God patiently waited in the days of Noah monarch is being prepared so he specifically mentions the spirits were disobedient in Noah's day and therefore I would take it is the same, but I don't associate that with with those in Revelation 9 because the Indians free pass if you read in second Peter. The second chapter that it it says that there they are held there until the judgment so verse 13 of of Revelation 9, the sixth angel blew his trumpet from the four horns of the gold authors before God heard her voice a city.

The six angels who had the trumpet lease. The four angels bound at the great river Euphrates. Whoever those are where is referring to. That's not Tartarus, this not the netherworld. Those, as I understand it, Jesus proclaimed after his death and resurrection is it is finished. You are done, victory is here. You will never get out is been sealed and and you will go from here into eternal judgment.

So I don't see it is the same ones and in Revelation the ninth chapter whoever those are whatever it's referring to something else. I yeah felt good and I will grant you the following question now Hatcher just because I'm doing a lot of betting. And what what what your take on the book of unit. Yeah. So if you just go to my website.

S. Dr. Brown.org. If you watch on YouTube is Kadir Brown just search for the word Enoch and you'll see a short video that we have on that.

It's fascinating. It contains many traditions that were in circulation in the days of the New Testament writings. It was highly revered by both the early Jews did not believe in Jesus and Jews who did believe in Jesus, as well as early Gentile Christians but outside of the city. The Ethiopian canon is not been considered part of Scripture. You can also watch the video. Why were some books left out of the Bible you find it really helpful. What were some books left out of the Bible and then you can also search just for Enoch a thank you for the questions.

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I know there's some teachers. The tribe drawn Jewish calendar mystical traditions and and all of that to me that's that's barking up the wrong tree so wall again. There are some beautiful comments.

While there some fascinating interpretations.

The system as a whole. When you really understand it is a different spiritual system is not the gospel it's it's not it's not this the scriptural method of knowing God and serving God so find out about it, but don't dive into it as a spiritual source for growth, it will lead you away from the real Yeshua in the real truth of God. So be careful with it interesting to learn about. Overall, not a system reflects express. It's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 86643 here again is Dr. Michael Brown joining us on our 66 posting questions on Facebook.

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Hello Dr. Brown hey thanks for doing that.

I appreciate everything that you do your the man I'll try to be brief and I'm sure you got a question many times but the last time you did a light shine Q&A on YouTube. I asked your question about Holy Spirit baptism and in your answer, you explain how your view of value in harmony with the Pentecostal view where we hear about the secret event post elevation. I understand that I actually grew three Ukrainian Pentecostal church and I will believe that but growing and I grew older I realize I don't really have an answer for that, and my vapid friend of a big renal majority of the church will view of the object of your gift of the Holy Spirit during television cost will be spent like what Scriptures say about your baptism.

How does it happen why we need yes so it's it's pattern we see laid out by Jesus in the Gospels, that the spirit comes upon him baptized one of the Holy Spirit comes upon them, and therefore he talks about his anointed by the spirit and then he tells his disciples in Luke 2449 don't leave Jerusalem until you are endued with power from on high. The next when a decision to receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon uses a ready believer's right next to the Holy Spirit comes upon them, and ask age. The Samaritans were saved, but the Holy Spirit is not yet come upon them until Peter and John commonly hands on them and asked it in acts 19. Paul asked the question of the believers in Ephesus, did you receive the spirit. When you believe no, we didn't even know about it and he prays for them.

They received the spirit speak in tongues and prophesy.

So we see a steady pattern of people being saved and then receiving the spirit receiving this endearment of power and often church history.

You see people have this break through this crisis and break through and and and they receive power from on high to change their lives. So we've just understood that the moment we put our trust in the Lord were saved were forgiven. The Holy Spirit dwells within us. But this endearment with power something like it is subsequent to that, we are now being clothed with the spirit immersed in the spirit so first with his 12 tells us upon salvation we are baptized by the Spirit into the body of Messiah that happens you know the Holy Spirit dwells within us this and human from power of power with evidence of tongues and prophecy are the gifts we see is something subsequent to salvation in the book of acts, and that's what we believe it the way we do. Okay, so how did it happen. I mean I understand that your finger pattern and act and some people were arguing today that while both are to be bit of moment in an historical account but is there any like prescription like a grieving that all rotors reading we have the key to look like okay if you what you need or what you want you want to be baptized in the Holy Spirit. First thing you want. Why downplay the importance of what's there. In acts accident teach us.

Why downplay work left to right. So why downplay the historical record. I reject that first premise that because the axis descriptor versus prescriptive. We can learn from. We learn from it left and right know Paul tells us in first Corinthians 10 of verses one through 11 that what was written before him with Israel's history is to teach us today. The same thing was written the New Testament history is to teach us today. What will you get the idea. While this is because it was Samaritans got how to make the point, why could he make the point.

The moment there were saved like he did it in and asked 10 with the Gentiles. Cornelius began to speak in tongues and Peter said TO say that is baptized in the water they been baptized in the spirit they receive the same as we did what it might have to wait and and and acts eight so it's it's this is a bogus thing it's it's a grasping at straws. So first thing what is that teaching us second thing there plenty of things that are important that Paul does not explain how to get he talks about. For example, gift of healing gifts of healing, where does he say how to receive that having had a grow and that had operate and where does he say that he talks about I speak in tongues more than of you. Winn-Dixie tell you how to receive tongues, you doesn't so even in his letters. He's not explaining how to receive those things. But Jesus did say that if he asked for the Holy Spirit it would given to you so we ask God.

Lord I ask for everything you have and I think every believer should be able to pray the sack.

Father, I want everything you have. I want to be absolutely filled with everything you have. If if it's if I'm given at the moment of salvation and let it be realized and manifested through me so that I can be a witness in the power of your spirit for the kingdom of God is that right of words only, but of power. As Paul writes in first Corinthians 4 so we should all pray that loyal of the fullness of your spirit. Manifest in my life that Jesus may be glorified to the full that I can serve your people the most be most intimate with you.

That's what I desire. We should all be able to pray that and then leave the results to God. That's what I would do all right. I totally agree with you on that I would want to have everything that God has to offer a picture I get my issue about I have a hard time defending the point.

I mean it. We have a real clear understanding of how to be cutting it.

They after forgiveness know all those like fundamental thing I would consider the Holy Spirit baptism to be so sound hang on just to be clear on that.

So tell me on the company's issues like how to be saved. Aside from believe repent and be baptized right so that's that's what we know so how does someone get that faith tell me all the details what needs repent and the words, it's not God did not give us this little manual and in any area where the right is the process you do it and where he does give at the church.

This practice, most of it. We don't instantly baptize people to come to faith it on the week of most circles. We don't do that so it what it Jesus does say ask ask and it will be given you seeking fun of you, being evil, know how to give good dispute children, so will the heavenly father give the Holy Spirit to those West is not supposed to be a method that's a whole thing is supposed to be a method is supposed to be father's formula say these words is relational, it's a matter of crying out to God say Lord I want everything you promised him asking for and receiving him until we into receive the fullness if it was a formula that's when things get messed up this mess of everything. Pray this prayer city's words ran repeat these words after me to start to speak in tongues. That's were mess everything up that this wanted to be a formula again, first with his 12 gifts of the spirit very important topic is important from the Lord. But being abused right and and what happens there.

This explain how it notices the Holy Spirit does as he desires to let God be God and would seek him earnestly for everything he has. Don't don't fall into the trap of thinking the way critics are thinking.

Think biblically, think biblically and and ask yourself where is the power of the spirit my life.

That's a big thing I'm not really good debate you receive this salvation wonderfulness demonstrated by the way, Maxwell thank you for bring a big smile to my face all very sweet as their yard Maxwell great your you can embarrass me. They won't pick up Dr. Brown knows me I'd embarrass him match love no clue who you are but go ahead embarrass me.

Please got you got the listening world.

Please go for hello are you doing October. I don't get mad, but go ahead embarrass armor your MobileMe. No equipment government government finally I have been asked hundreds of thousands of questions are over the years, go ahead right are on notice that were not locked. That's okay Maxwell we are we are live.

I'm looking for, you got a minute and 1/2 before we go off the air, but we are live singer son of the world are in body but let's I want to hear from you. I want to know what you think it, go ahead okay alright so almost and I know that you were involved with me. And made a part of play. His laws about reparation totally false. What are called on hold on hold on maximal that's all's that's false true true stark handbooks have been demolished by destroying all aircraft use a minor role in the slave trade juice Ali neighbor Hiram role in the sleep shop.background.I'll tell you what Maxwell you want them but here here's the deal. When you speak ignorance you embarrass yourself open my door from a Jewish source on your page on the things that in not a hack job straight through you. Okay, not my question okay. What part the new joint peak replicate and reparation of black people. Well I would say that if you look at black crime on Jews in recent years, blessed mom hired him again and bought now is alive parts of this.

I just want to give him as a second to see this is some of the nonsense we deal with okay so you did here.

I'll post later today I'll post in the thread absolute complete demolition factual historical demolition of the idea that the Jews played a major role in the African slave.

That's number one. To reduce all black crime is about. I brought up a stupid argument to answer a stupid arch but may God help Maxwell because he actually believes delusional nonsense.

May God help Maxwell. The fact is, Jews students advice stood side-by-side with Dr. King's rights movement because they said we are also oppressed people and we are also former slaves and we want to stand together for justice. This was used by cellular likeliness across America today is they want to see what's right delusional stuff like this helps the cause. Let's do the right thing for my friends, not delusional nonsense like