The Mysteries of Ezekiel's Temple

Let's dive into some of the big questions about Ezekiel's Temple stage for the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH 866-34-TRUTH your again is Dr. Michael Brown looking friends to our broadcast.

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Now 866-34-TRUTH 866-34-TRUTH 7884. It is thoroughly Jewish Thursday so any Jewish related question of any kind, any Jewish related comment argument you like to have with me that Hebrew language about messianic prophecy if it's about modest individuals losses Jewish related give us a call 866-34-TRUTH eight 788 four. I want to look at a fascinating subject. Before we look at news in Israel before I share a very moving article with you from a Christian scientist friend before we take your calls. I want to look at Ezekiel's Temple, now spoiler alert. Let me tell you upfront. I I am not going to reveal the then this is now you got all that we solve all the problems unless I can happen. In fact, what I want to do is present some of the problems and raise some of the challenges in some of the mystery of this passage so if you think out loud with me.

Ezekiel the 36th chapter. It speaks of the Jewish people returning from exile to returning from Babylonian exile and in God's drinking clean water on their hearts in the land and putting a straw in their hearts and given a new heart and a new spirit right so that was not fulfilled with the return from Babylon. So we still await that and we see it partially ongoing Jewish people returning back to the land. Little by little, coming to faith, the Messiah, but expect to see a massive increase in that chapter 37 the valley of the dry bones again a picture.

First of exiles coming out of Babylon but with other applications through history until the end of the age, then Ezekiel 38, 39, the gold and the gold, prophecy, and it apparently speak of an end time war with Israel against her enemies and then that's followed by Ezekiel 40 through 48, Ezekiel 40 to 48 and there there is a glorious vision of of God's glory returning to the temple. It had departed. In Ezekiel 10 because of of Israel sin. Now the glory returns and Ezekiel, who himself is a priest is now involved in a vision he is he is officiating.

There in the temple and involved with what is going to happen and there is rebuking for Israel's uncleanness and things like this with this glorious structure will be built in sacrificial system will be restored and no be a prince, will be leading in the midst of it.

You have all of this going on and then you have this river that that comes from from God. This is no Ezekiel gets deeper and deeper famous passage right to the youth swim in it and then that goes out and Ezekiel 47 brings healing that the leaves of the trees on the banks of the river bring healing to the nations. It's a glorious passage is a very mystical passage and at first glance. When Ezekiel is receiving is a captive in Babylon himself.

You would think that this is a temple to be built with a return from exile. They should build according to this pattern should be different than the Torah pattern in certain ways.

They should build according to this pattern and God will miraculously turn the heart of his people to him in the glory of God will be there. This was this the expectation of the return from exile, but it didn't happen.

Members equals can be officiating entities Ezekiel you use been spoken to Greg is supposed to show the plans to his people and when they see it'll be a shame here we are in exile. This is what God wants to do is fascinating that was built no some Christians say it's all symbolic. It is symbolic of future restoration and all the details just symbolize aspects of worship and meeting with God and purification and so on. It's a beautiful interpretation, but I don't see it sustained scriptural. In other words, with all respect to those who have argued for it eloquently over the centuries, rental, art, or day. The problem the problem is that it seems odd to go into so much detail in so many ways when it's just symbolic when it's not actually supposed be physically built, but if it is supposed to be physically built that presents a problem for many Christians because it institutes a sacrificial system. If it's supposed to be literally rebuilt. It provides challenges for traditional Jews because the dimensions don't fit. So let's look at this Ezekiel 45 verse 22. What you look with me at the commentary of Rashi.

Rashi, being the foremost rabbinic commentator of Bible and Talmud living in the 11th century, so it says the Prince shall make on that day for himself and for all of the people of Israel, a bowl for a sin offering and and then you've got the Passover going on but that those seem to be contradictions between those laws and the laws of the Torah, so Rashi comments on this and says our rabbis said that they sought to suppress the book of Ezekiel for his words contradicted the words of the Torah. Indeed, Tanya, the son of Hezekiah, the scent of durian is remembered for good, for he sat in his attic and expounded on it, but because of our iniquities when he expounded on of the sacrifices why a bowl is goes on on it. It was lost because our iniquities is also in other words, the Talmud states that this man otherwise unknown. Spent night after night in his attic working on this. Try to reconcile everything and he figured out how it all works but we lost we don't have it anymore. Let let's look at the actual Talmudic description there. So this is again in the Babylonian Talmud tractate hockey God saw all of let's just see here.

Okay gotta scroll down, I towards the end of this passage. Let's keep scrolling down keep scrolling down. That's right, towards the tail and keep going down going down. I let's just see and keep going all right. Tell you what. Since we are doing live radio here.

Tough, but the text that sent Kai that's that's what we wanted to to pull up that one section so the Talmud goes on to explain that he use X number of cruises of oils limited to Kindle his his lamp is oil lamp and he worked any any any discovered it also.

He is remembered for good, but as Rashi says. Centuries later, we don't actually have.

So from a traditional Jewish viewpoint, there are challenges because it contradicts because it contradicts what is written and told her about various laws and sacrifices and and end dates and things like that that's that's a problem for traditional for messianic Jew traditional Christian can be a problem because what he needed sacrificial system for when Jesus died for sins once and for what you need to sacrificial system that's redundant and it's rebuilding what is what is passed to presents problems there. From a historical viewpoint presents policies with expected them to Bill that make it back from exile, but of course they were worthy of doing that they were not righteous as they were supposed to be. That never happened. To be considered never will happen within still in the Bible is very puzzling out old couple years ago I was praying a lot about the passage and studying it and looking at it and feeling that the Lord wanted to give me some insight.

Not that I'd be the one to discover, but just that that fell at the Lord's could help me with some insights. So was praying about it. Think about it and one of my closest colleagues writes to me by Kevin insights and seekers temple of God give you any insights of getting sequiturs like funny you should write because I'm praying about this very thing studying and then I was out with colleague and we were in Kansas City and went to a prayer room two to praying. Some folks I hate would you like us to pray with you in and they were involved in prophetic ministry. See if the live shows us anything. Sure, so sure enough, here's a prophetic worthy because of you beat insights into Ezekiel's temple.

So I do hope one day to study Dick Morton and see if I can learn from what others have learned and get some other insights that would be helpful. I'm sure there's been great insight for many angles up to them, but account missionary Tobia Singer claims that it presents a massive problem for Christians because the text repeatedly mentions, see the Prince, the Prince, the Prince that is outreach Judy's website.

He says the Prince is the Messiah and and hear the princes offering sacrifices.

Why in the world with the Messiah be offering sacrifices results in Jesus is offering sacrifices and I'm think about this today because a colorist is requested yesterday so they might come back to that today there is surely some interesting Rashi get forestry commentator on Ezekiel chapter 44 verse three Rashi on Ezekiel 44 verse three and is talking about the Prince write the Prince. He is a prince, he shall sit there and eat bread before the Lord and Rashi explains it, the high priest is a prince and because of his importance. He will be permitted to eat the meat and bread of hallowed status in that gate so interestingly what Tobia Singer doesn't tube. This is very typical with there's a solid answer that refutes them within Judaism. He will tell you that exists Rashi doesn't believe it's the Messiah here Italy. This is a high priest another many other Jewish interpreters that that is the Messiah visiting the text. It's as of the Messiah and that the text proclaims, and in any messianic terms, or gives him a messianic status and Rashi as everything is the Messiah here since the high priest is a prince what you know.

The Christian answer is either that the sacrifices are symbolic in Ezekiel or just as Old Testament sacrifices pointed forward to the cross. Future sacrifices will point back to the cross for many that's unsatisfying but that's another option. We know elsewhere like in the Jeremiah 33. It mentions Thanksgiving offerings and things like that from that some the rabbis concluded that in the world to come, there will still be offerings but they will only be Thanksgiving offerings and not offerings dealing with since that's another aspect for another. My son Pat left and right will cause the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling 8663 here again is Dr. Michael Brown yes yes yes thanks for joining us before we go to your Jewish related calls. I want to bring a friend from Bronx, New York pest edema subareas of there's a major event about to happen in New York City and I thought it's it's important that we get word out to all of you in the city that might be able to participate with us pest, edema's welcome back to the line of fire. Are you there sir, I hear now we are on the air live right now.

Dr. Brown Hardy, Dr. doing good man how you doing buddy were here to bring up. The only and got a republic that don't want to marry her at the clerk to come out and help will be picked in organized the court did God not dealt fully in our big problem now occupy Walnut Creek it be different. You know the Libyan people and where here to try to bring people throughout the coagulant note right now to be praying brought and in private corporate bra leader clearing precluded dominate And can pray for him.

You know, complete with animal rights that we have about 10 about the current Duke on their way here will okay so here is where here at 44 Broadway righty/writer Veronica monomeric reported book brought West 44th and Broadway. So so right in the Times Square area. Basically right right right in Audubon Square right right so that's in Manhattan friends and what is the event supposed to start at 4 o'clock to 8 o'clock with Alan. You can comment.

We have different different negative character Leader local leader global dirt ramp of the bully and don't be beautiful so you say that Mayor de Blasio, who's been so hostile to the churches in different ways.

A small reach out to you yet you have read about all required that we come out 3 mile is that something come out and help.

I'm glad he recognizes that you're the ones to go to in this. This can be an innocent hands to the city. The churches can have to lead the way that right now you're getting some opposition from's from some of the police are saying yeah you know the big city go apart. Everybody know. But the mayor got no dog government offered no and we could drive right now to get all the audit out so you know about bully and wear out and put them in and report them and that we did not make the audit that they're aware of that you know that though I did print it out method will be clear to them that were on their God is all right. That's against 44th and brother man I wish I just not my thing is physically be there and that'll be 4 o'clock to 8 o'clock tonight is going to be aired in any way online.

You know Greg group common that's going to be aquatic goat. We got called reading them. Stop ballot at the hatchback we could stop ballot big pond out on Facebook at the ground there a lot to bear. I listed something about this is pretty busy right now. Okay thank you father I pray from a pray for a brother. Demos I pray for all the other pastors and leaders involved. I prefer the Christians will be gathering. Pray for the police.

The authorities that your name would be glorified that this message would get out to the nation that a unified church standing together for righteousness standing together for reconciliation standing together for peace, for love the message would get out the Jesus would be exalted that every barrier would be removed and that your purposes would be accomplished and may Mayor de Blasio's heart masala and other leaders may recognize my New York needs Jesus, thank you. Hey God bless you and can't wait to see again buddy. But back to Shirley my life. All right, right in the streets of New York City friends. So keep that in prayer. If you're anywhere near there and you can get out. You feel good about being out in a crowd setting, then that's where it's going to be happening. 44th brother it be interesting if there's a large gathering and it's a large peaceful gathering in Jesus is exalted. If the media will cover the law be interesting to see what all right 866-34-TRUTH of skill that Jeff and Houston, Texas. Welcome to the line of fire. Hello Dr. Brown talk with you. Thank you all. Sgt. Marty maybe 10 to 12 years ago on one of the Christian TV shows, amended, dropped off the radar screen and then sent the link to the YouTube link that you were debating about movie I guess. About a year ago and also that kinda made me you don't start looking you up again and I just love what you doing how, you are in those debates.

It's pretty amazing so I want to start up its own.

You of a messianic Jew. Believe what you.so remember to back up on the Internet I found out that your mother. My mother and very much, but gave birth to two Jewish boys of the state of serious sleep. Seriously, that we are pursuing is your couple years older than I also grew up in a conservative Jewish family for years of school bar mitzvah became a believer in Jesus in 1981 and also again when all linen love to study the word of God love the study you can. Not nearly as so diverse as it is your love that you know and think that I've been teaching men's groups and Bible studies and smog for many many years so something that comes up that are try to explain, but I think you're looking for probably love. You explain it in the Shema should buy this relevant aisle. The word heart in compound unity and I believe there's nothing work you need. Which means single absolute unity. I don't really like the Trinity because it implies three dogs when there's not a lot work compound unity used Mr. Moss. I collect you to speak to that. Maybe just tell people under yeah yeah actually there.

There are a number of of misconceptions involved that we try to correct for for for many many years caught in and of itself just means one dozen compound. It doesn't mean Susan Singer just means one like one day your one rock or one group for just means one to the same in English, one can have a wide variety of meanings you to about one couple. One team one galaxy one person write that just seem to find one but cannot be used to speak of several things are.

One was the first time that Eckhart is used in Hebrew biogenesis 16 is evening and morning your massage day one. One day, so evening and morning together make up one the next time you choose this Genesis to 24 that Adam and Eve, the two become one flesh per Sarkar won the two become one flesh is then using, for example, Ezekiel 35 about the many different parts of the tabernacle will make one tabernacle Eckhart can also be used to refer to that one alone just that one like Solomon alone some amount one will be the Aaron first Chronicles of the 29 so in in Deuteronomy 64 wish my hero Israel.

It could be translated. The Lord is our God, the Lord alone. That's how some rabbinic interpretation understand it, that one alone is our God, not meaning there are not many of him who the thinking there many of him. Okay that one and that one alone or it could be saying the Lord God the Lord is one, but that doesn't tell you it's just like a day is evening and morning and and and one flesh is man and woman in one tabernacle is many parts of tabernacle doesn't tell you that it is not specifically referring to a a God. I use the term complex in his unity now there is the word just see which is distinct, the one that one meaning, one only, and in some later Jewish confessions of faith God is referred to as the seed that section not in the Bible and the whole purpose of Deuteronomy 64 is not even to discuss the nature of God.

It was to say that Yahweh and Yahweh alone is our God, and that there's one Yahweh that many different always like yellow in this city and the only net city, knowing that no one, Yahweh. When Yahweh only he's only one that we worship. That's the emphasis so Jeff in my book, answering Jewish objections to Jesus. Find choose five time series, volume 2. I get into that in depth and discuss a thought.

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There other things in of themselves unprecedented but everything happening at once. This is the time of shaking is a time for us to rise up as God's people and leads the way in making a difference when you study the Hebrew Scriptures is a sisterly juice Thursday can't get away from the fact that justice matters to God that these were things of great importance to him that when you see Israel being judged in the Old Testament you'll see three cardinal sins idolatry, injustice and immorality. These were the things that brought judgment down on Israel. It's a time that we need to humble ourselves and cry out for mercy friends.

It's an urgent hour we as God's people must lead the way on every front and make sure Jesus no. Let that be our loudest and clearest message, 866-34-TRUTH all right with that. Let's go to the phones and then a little while. I want to share a very moving article from a colleague who lives in Bethlehem as to why he is a Christian scientist think you be touched by let's go to Waterloo, Iowa Darrell, welcome to the line of fire. How are you doing very well thank you okay get right to the point I've been doing a tremendous amount of studying God really blessed me are tobaccos. I'm having a problem. See the third person in the Trinity as we know it at and not just the emphasize I'm not a Unitarian aperture. I clearly see the sun in Jesus as a parent and you know in the Old Testament right so yeah I highlight how you say I read, your things in the listen to the way you speak on this topic that the you call God's triune nature and I don't think I've ever actually heard you say that there is 1/3 person as most Trinitarian speech is no absolutely, emphatically, is torn on this and in great great detail with the many, many verses. So is your problem. Seeing the Holy Spirit in the distinctly in the Old Testament or in the whole Bible are in the Bible. Okay, so let's just start in the New Testament the right and and let's just look at a verse like John 1526 is an example okay so Jesus is there when the helper comes, whom I will sent you from the father, the spirit of truth who proceeds from the father. He will bear witness about me, and you also will bear witness because you've been with me for the beginning it in John 14 through 16. You have a series of verses like this that speak of the father said in the sun. The sun setting the spirit and in very distinct ways are for example in in John 1426, the helper, the Holy Spirit whom the father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to remembrance all that I have said to you so you have verses like this. We have distinct father son spirit with the spirit. As a teacher. The spirit is a guide in Isaiah 63 and in Ephesians 4. The spirit can be grieved. Speaking of his personality and ask five. You can lie to the Holy Spirit in Hebrews 9.

The Holy Spirit is spoken of as eternal you have. For example, in first Corinthians 12, one God, one Lord, one spirit and in the manifestations of the spirit to be wisdom, knowledge, tongues, prophecy, things like that in second Corinthians 1314 you have the invitation where Paul speaks of the love of God, the grace of the Lord Jesus and the fellowship of the spirit.

So there you have again God Lord spirit and the fellowship of the spirit that's fellowship is communion.

That's relationship so what are on our side. Some of many verses that speak of the spirit independently that speak of the spirit in conjunction with the father and the son. Each independently and that clearly indicate the personhood of the spirit okay but what I'm saying.

And a lot of the packages you mentioned is basically like a manifestation of God's power that that's the way I fear it's just not hitting it started many verse that I meant how can someone who teaches and helps you as a distinct person who can be grieved, who can be lied to with whom you can have fellowship. How can that be a manifestation of power you have fellowship with a manifestation of power, but the well know, it would have to be some type of being exactly doesn't Isaiah the second of power have have personhood cannulae to it, but that's where it all that on. I'm not set on this. I am trying to get information when I ask is what else to the national rate. Charismatic my entire life had been in certain dental I'm just trying to find out and not accusing. I'm not criticizing, don't know I don't want if I can show you independence and you have the baptizing name of the father son and Spirit. Why do that if the spirit is just a manifestation of power. Why mention that specifically see baptizing them well.

I was on spirit. You can buy more. Do you have communion with the spirit so how is that nonperson went out.

What else could be said that's what I'm asking for. Okay well I know that happened though that Matthew 28 and the light one of the interesting thing is, I've also been doing a lot of reading of the early church fathers, and I know it's devious has mentioned that passage in Matthew before and I you know, in his first writings. He never mentioned the Holy Spirit but bananas letterwriting you see that in him, and then only everyone knows the text is original is no dispute over the authenticity of the text in ancient Greece, Greek manuscripts okay yeah it's it feels to me just to be honest. To be candid again. I mean no criticism but feels as if you really are trying get away from it rather than embrace what Scripture says this is something you ranted on your head is because neither question it. And now whatever I show you you're the read differently than what it says because the cumulative evidence is quite overwhelming and Estes off the top of my head throwing verses how to whether there is some truth to that. One of the baby got me one of the points that was made quite where the throne or the third person in the Trinity. I mean in the Bible we see by known revelations three Revelation 22 we see you know I throne mentioned for God the father and Jeter, but there's no mention of 1/3 goal of the Holy Spirit is to draw attention to Jesus, to the glory of the father.

That's his whole role. That's what Scripture tells us when you say so, Sue, who is it that's been influencing you. That's the big question. Notice, I can't recall any names, particularly just a lot of reading. I've been doing God.

It was years is a good place to to go to again that there's if if you want a ton of evidence for me.

Get volume 2 of my series answering Jewish objections to Jesus. Volume 2 of answering Jewish objections to fees for katana references there, but just go to Karma.org CAR M.org Karam.org and just search for the holy spirit or deity of the Holy Spirit.

It's all there. But again, the purpose of the Holy Spirit is to be hidden and invisible, and draw attention to Jesus and the exultation of Jesus is to the glory of the father.

So this is it doesn't say in first with his 15 that the sun gives the kingdom up to the father so that God can be all in all. So each one complements the other.

Philippians to that every knee will bow to Jesus and confess that he is Lord, to the glory of God the father, the Holy Spirit testifies of ham power doesn't test for yes Holy Spirit includes aspects of God's power, but so does the father and son include aspects of God's power.

Hey keep running to the truth of the word, and have fellowship with the Holy Spirit. You cannot have fellowship with an abstract power. I thank you sir for the call 86634 of its go to Scott in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. Welcome to the line of fire, yet very clearly yes I can get out. I have a question and I'm not really trying to run away born in the biblical argument that tells about in the Daniel Coyle verse 11 yeah I'm rated the new living translation but has run the town daily thank Elijah taken away in a tabulated object because the desecration that we worship nobody at 1309 date entered in the black eventuate and remain completely and other 1335 day and then bring that account I call the Colorado does not own the rights to Mark and now, in Revelation thousand Gentiles will travel dollars to 42 month period that 1260 days right which Swenson is everywhere in Revelation 11, three day room, court says that traumatic time yet.

Here's the problem Scott that's great questions are others jumping kissing a break coming up.

The problem is the book of revelations apocalyptic visionary literature and everything is symbols and signs so is it literally days are counted in could be as simple as something could be. Daniel is also highly visionary as well, but because they are so close yet they could well be speaking of the same events and then there's another 30 days for other things that will unfold in Daniel, so it could be but the last thing to do is worry about it is that there's as if there's a discrepancy because it's about prophetic language and apocalyptic language. It's not like reading a newspaper report with sports scores that okay this team scored six runs this game three runs in exactly what it meant. Often solace about Lopez's incessant Daniel Hayes have hit it's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 66343 here again is Dr. Michael Brown transferred joining us on Thursday. Thursday you to question wondering what Jesus he came only for the lost sheep of the house of Israel, is it lost beings in the lost 12 tribes of the 12 tribes fully lost her 10 tribes for the loss. They were always incorporated into the rest of the Jewish people, but he met the people of Israel. He was referring to the people of Israel, generally Jewish people and on earth.

His first focus was the lost sheep mouse of Israel. Then after that from Israel. The gospel goes to the whole world all right 866-34-TRUTH before you get your calls. When I spoke in Bethlehem big Jala to be exact.

A couple years ago to Christ at the checkpoint conference spent some time with her brother there.

Brian shrugged her and he's a strong Christian Zionist but in an article he wrote for the Jerusalem Post op Ed piece he shares why he is a Christian Zionist and in the editorial. He said because of a Christian. Many people assume is my religious faith that is the primary motivation for my advocacy advocacy for Israel. But that's not the case. I encourage you to read that on the Jerusalem Post.

It is a moving moving story about his son who dies of terrible, terrible condition, his boys, his leg amputated its is very very moving his son Taylor nine years old.

Each tumor discovered his pelvic dish especially insidious cancer, one which tumors calcified turning into bone stabbing from the inside out. So as a daddy's fighting is praying for his son's healing, but also concerned by the spirit is a son's always been so feisty in you, knowing, and just Italy's after losing a leg amputation.

It was first things is to crack a joke. You will get half-price on shoes and things just kept that spirit and and in the middle of this. Brian couldn't just praise the Lord thank you Lord, I know you're good some people can. There's disgrace to do that. But as I got what you doing this. This is a right and there was a special prayer service being held his church one night in the late they worship about 30 minutes but Brian can enter in many got up to speak and he said right now God is my opponent, and people like what we tell about the Jewish doctor was there and you start to understand because within Judaism there is a tradition of of challenging God as an act of faith. If you have a Job commentary. You know that's the subtitle right Job the face to challenge God. The translation counter.

There is even an essay in the back of the book on challenging God is an active faith that cemented that sounds completely irreverent. How can it be, but for Joe because he was so convinced that that God did not seem to be acting justly to a man he knew that God was a just got he had to challenge him and I was an active faith filled in a certain way.

He spoke wrongly of God and God rebuked report strongly and shall publish himself and recants, but in another way Joe spoke rightly about which is what God says in Job 42 seven 4780 rebuked the friends and commence Job, who spoke rightly about because my servant three times in an it was finding this spirit among the Jewish people among the religious of the nonreligious that he said that's a people I can identify with. So wasn't the theology of promises that God made to Israel to restore him to the land and Israel's eternal home in the Jewish people alike comes afterwards for Brian but for him it was the identification of a people they could understand that harsh of wrestling with God and he he wonderfully lays it out in that article. If any of you have lost a child. You find it very moving for me.

Having never lost a child or grandchild.

Thank God it was deeply moving to Regis. It was deeply moving to hear it face-to-face so check that out why I'm a Christian Zionist just published on the Jerusalem Post. If you don't have my Job commentary. I strongly encourage you to get if you can afford it get it. I believe you will be blessed.

It's beautifully produced high quality spirit.

Obviously many years working on it and then the goal was to make accessible to anyone really seriously want to dig into the text. You can do it think you be richly blessed helped edified, strengthened, challenged by 866343 go back to the phones Montréal Michael, welcome to the line of fire. Thank you. Hi Dr. Brown rat taking the call you back. Quick question for you.

I'm currently Lori be the role of the death of the right to speak about. As an analogy for issue number 35 and I was just wondering how to conceptualize from number 25. And I like the death of the wicked and kind of the only power nearly I know Milgram is the one that the more like a ransom more like atonement of money they got put in a in a different category out this wondering how you cannot deal with number 25. Would you credibly fit in that death of the young type of theme or what writ related to it. But the other side of the coin so Anna in volume 2 of answering Jewish objections to Jesus.

I do look at this passage, it does use the root with a pair key pair to to make atonement but is in Roman.

My professor than why you both Levine have pointed out in the Leviticus and Numbers commentaries that that the root can mean to turn away wrath but it can mean to ransom.

It can mean to expiate the tone there different aspects to it and and in some of that flip sides to the same coin like by making expiation wrath is turned aside all I I wrote extensively on the root and in the Anna reviling the Festschrift for Prof. Levine some years ago a key pair and atonement in the book of Isaiah. But here's the concept here that the Israelites or are worshiping the idols of the Midianites and sleeping with their women apparently counseled by Baylon Bay like the King was for apparently counseled by Baylon.

This is a way to get them. I couldn't curse about yourself.

Get God to curse them. So, in any event, but we do know for sure is they are having sex with the women wrath is broken out.

The plague is broken at this judgment on the people and in the midst of this is as Israelites are morning and and and wailing that simply an Israelite man takes this woman caused the right to assent forever is weeping, wailing right so takes this Mennonite woman into his tent and Phineas with his zeal goes, there is takes a spear and spears and bows through and the wrath stops atonement is made okay so in one sense can atonement be made. We understand the concept if if I take a life I pay for it with my own life right should lead. Numbers 35 I pay for it with my own blood. Otherwise, it's not is not equal's and I have the problem where you should blood but it's innocent, it's accidental. Your accent flies off coast among you of the city of refuge stay there within ~high priest eyes summarize the representing the people. His death frees you his death is like for everybody and that the blood that never got answered and for which there is no retribution but later rabbinic tradition teaches if a murder is can be stoned to death is to make confession if he does know what to say.

He says let my death be in atonement for license etc. consecrate you pay for it. Okay, so the death of the righteous has power to atone in that you have like a big credit right I got $1 trillion credit on my account.

I can pay for a million people's debt of $1 million or whatever it is because the credit on my counsel. If someone is righteous, and they die they didn't deserve it, but that takes the place of others who did the service they repent there to be mercy.

Hence, the death of the righteous atone for the sins of the generation. So where does this fit in.

This would be the other side of the coin where the AA representative ringleader a public center whose guilt is is so open and and and and play at and right in the midst of the morning repents. It is so outwardly brazen that his death stops.

That's enough, it would be equivalent