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October 3, 2022 6:20 pm

Low Blow (10-3-22)

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October 3, 2022 6:20 pm

On a Monday Drive, Josh reacts to what he saw from the Carolina Panthers, yesterday, discusses why he thinks the real NC State came out in their loss at Clemson, gives new spots to Duke, Syracuse, and others in "Critically ACClaimed", WD discusses getting drilled in the nuts by NC State quarterback, Devin Leary, and Carolina Panthers beat writer, Ellis Williams, joins the show to give his thoughts on what we've seen from Baker Mayfield, so far.

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He's amused and insulted by Charles Barkley.

No no no. He's interviewed Matthew McConaughey he's taken on illumination is just completely take the wind out of my time on a Monday with Ryan where it's hard to overstate just how bad that was a Bank of America statement yesterday.

Of course I was there and be in a 4 o'clock kick I had more of an opportunity to soak in the atmosphere and before the game.

Believe it or not. The Bible is really good feeling around the stadium was that this was going to be one of the best days in a long time to be a Carolina Panthers certainly to be a Carolina Panthers fan.

Things had not gone great under that rule, if you haven't been paying attention the last few years, but Sam Mills became the first panther inducted into the Pro football Hall of Fame over the summer. This was the keep pounding game.

You had the throw back in zones you had the throwback Panthers logo at the 50 yard line. Sam's family was in the house.

Mick and Don Mixon hanging out and helping commemorate the great Sam Mills, Steve Smith was emotional go on YouTube and listen to what he had to say. Dan Morgan Luke Keithley Jake the loam and you're playing the Arizona Cardinals, who are an absolute mess. It was supposed to be a terrific day and what we saw instead was the worst loss of the mat rule era. That's what this game was if you feel I'm overstating it. If you're panther fan and you think of something worse. Correct me. I defy you 336-777-1600 on Twitter at WS GS radio WDA you're emotionally attached to the team.

You tell me if something is worse because for me. What made this one particularly egregious other than the fact that it's year three.

At this point for Matt this happened home the Giants debacle correct that the first Giants debacle happened in the Meadowlands. That was last year. The blown lead against the Vikings that was in Minnesota and Teddy Bridgewater strolling Joe Brady under the bus after the game and it seemed the coaching staff and the players were firing off.

Not a lot of blown leads in the mat rule era because not a lot of leads to blow at the end of games in the fourth quarter. This one happened at Bank of America Stadium on what should have been awesome day when you're honoring perhaps the greatest player in your franchises history hurricane hit or a tropical storm. I guess hit the state of North Carolina. But I didn't feel a drop of rain in Charlotte yesterday. The weather conditions you can ask for more annual loss to the Arizona Cardinals. The Cardinals I can't overemphasize this are a complete mess, and yesterday was no exception to that. This is not an example of well you just caught their best shot.

That's not what it was from Arizona. Every time they got into the red zone Carolinas falls, Arizona's full starting and moving backwards. Playcalling was bad. Terrible penalties and their starting left tackle get thrown out for contacting an official right after Frankie Lulu had a bad emotional penalty that it canceled out bad coaching you had Tyler Murray and Cliff Kingsbury yelling at each other like there are a married couple what looked like. And the reason they were yelling at each other. Tyler was right to different occasions in the second half of Kings bears having to call a timeout because he decided to substitute late and Matt just did the easy thing you substitute.

We could time to substitute and there wasn't enough time left in the play clock they had burned timeout. That's coaching 101 Kings bears. Not a good coach.

Arizona's not a good football team terrible defensively terrible on offense other than Kyler Woody's freewheeling and you lose to this theme and it wasn't even dramatic at the end, it wasn't really a close game, at least when the fire mat rule chance happened last year it was in December. It was after a lost to Tom Brady. Were you getting blown out. This is Arizona Cardinals.

This is October 2.

That rule spoke earlier today after he had a chance to watch the tape. Of course, you're not WDA. You gotta make sure to watch the tape.got to where you say anything and this is what macrolide say about the booing fans in the mat rule chance that I grew up in New York and Philly think. I think when fans pay their money to come here mandate. They deserve to see good football. They deserve to see better following play last night so I have I respected. I have no problem with that.

You know me and my sons and feel with Donna say he went to get you to go to bed, but he like to know if we play like that. This can happen in a minute and boo me and I get no I know you know I think a good defense but I know that we will see people see office and will be excited and entertained. And it's not happening. I get it completely get it when I don't want to kill I keep trying the team to do just don't press likes content, don't panic. 1310 don't panic and start going crazy stuff.

Ensuring which keeper Capote panic like Will Ferrell down was tidy Whitey's an old school just got deeper composure don't panic guys don't is your slamming a foldout chair against the locker walls but the defense part. That's the part that stings the most. The offense didn't need to do much. The defense was outstanding. They just can it be out in the field that long, and we should again we should be talking about today how great Frankie Lulu was all over the field was the best player for either team. In this game and we should be talking about the fact how that Frankie Lulu pick six looked a lot like Sam Mills is pick six in Carolina's first ever win against the Jets or looked a lot like the Luke Keithley Peck against Arizona in the NFC championship game and how Luke was in the building, calling down Carolina Panthers radio, but we can't call any of that. We can't really talk much about that today because Matt ruling Carolina couldn't figure out and not fall pensively to being a team that was begging you to win the game. That was the worst loss of the mat rule era on Twitter again at WS GS radio if you wanted my need to calm down a bit before we move on to college football, quick housekeeping note. Speaking of WDA Carolina classic bear in full force in Winston-Salem this week go out and meet the triads favorite producer will Dalton be tonight after the show your to be out there to be out there by 7 o'clock.

Yeah that's that's the game plan okay and then we will be out there.

I will be out there broadcasting live doing this show from our set up at the fairgrounds Wednesday and Friday of this week. So yes, plan to be out there come and see us.

Wednesday and Friday I will be out there getting the couch after Saturday's game.

There is no way to justify believing in C states a better football team, the Wake Forest I've been saying this for months. Remember, if you don't I said explained to me like on five why Devon Leary is a better fit for player of the year than Sam Hartman and why is he states getting more votes than Wake Forest. This I just can't understand it, and state fans, particularly having appreciated that opinion this weekend, but amid the hundreds of responses that I got from them in the last 48 hours. None of them I got caught a lot of names but made a case for why states better than white because there isn't one somebody tell the AP voters that because yesterday the new top 25 dropped and I was stunned to see that state was 14 and Wake Forest 15. I just want someone note anyone to explain to me how this makes sense make it make sense for going to the resumes. This should be pretty elementary. They both have a common loss they lost to Clemson Wake Forest push them though Wake Forest could have won that game.

You could argue they should have one game what the double-overtime six touchdown passes no pics in the game. It didn't turn it over it all, NC state the first half other than the final two minutes, but they needed a garbage touchdown in the final minute just to make it a 10 point deficit double figures, loss, old Josh. The game was in death Valley okay honey point is that worth is it the difference between getting beat comfortably versus it being a double-overtime game because I don't buy that okay but if you were to believe that college football playoff committee has always told us it's not about how bad your losses are, how good are your wins. What have you demonstrated on the field to show how great you are, why you should be 14 to 15th in the country if he states best when is against Texas Tech in Raleigh. Is that a better win than the one Wake Forest had this weekend against team that was ranked this past weekend winning at FSU who was unbeaten at that point, the answer is pretty clearly so both teams had close calls against fives liberty had a chance at the end against Wake Forest ECU.

The Pirates in Greenville America. If they make a 41 yard kick they beat NC state that seems to be a wash to me state they scheduled to cupcakes Charleston Southern and Yukon Wake Forest schedule BMI and they went on the road to Vanderbilt, an SEC school that had been have won its first few games and improve inability to go as far to say goodbye want to go as far to say it's cupcake to schedule them on the road in Nashville and they blew them out. They did exactly what you should do. It just seems to me that the resumes are clear here and that Wake Forest is the better team in the details point to them. That's the frustrating part that I've been talking about since the summer because this piece hasn't changed weights the defending Atlantic champs, not NC state Wake Forest has beaten NC State for the last five meetings may have the better quarterback. Statistically they have the better coach.

They have the better weapons, no doubt about. After all, the NC state loss last year and I was a big key in the game against Clemson bear better than they were last year upgrading adding a defensive coordinator. I don't think it's he states as good as they were a year ago.

I don't think any justification for why interstate should be ranked ahead of Wake Forest. But that is the quality a people. You have always voters from across the country are just looking at what their poll was last week at the okay well know how far we gonna bump him back after Lawson. How much are we to move this team up after win and you might lose sight of the details like Hades teams have lost to the same team.

One almost beat the top five team in the other didn't really come close. That's what happens if you're an NC State fan you might feel like Saturday's game was a blow to the groin area. Well, thanks to Devon Leary our guy WDA learned what that feeling is quite literally on the sidelines in Tiger land get into that next on the drive drive with Josh grab WDA random question asking for no reason on the deck. I'm feeling good today Saturday night.

I just wanted to check in on my God because it can be difficult getting in and out of Clemson. What time did you get back on Saturday night Sunday morning or 30 morning sounds about right.

Yet being a night game great atmosphere, great place to watch a game.

Maybe the loudest football stadium I've been to. And that's saying something into a lot of SEC stadiums across the country so we respect death Valley, but I texted will Saturday night. Just making sure he got in okay and he responded to me with a video of him on the sidelines watching Devon Leary get some frozen and Devon Leary caught will download. He was filming himself get hit in the man region.

I don't know if this is going to come across on the radio as well as it will if you watch the video on our social media, but I think it's going to work. This is how it sounded will filming himself getting hit by a football in the nether regions by Devon Leary before Saturday nights game. I was rooting for that I was rooting for that you can listen let's hear that again real faintly you can hear will think that his life is going to be over for 1/2 second.

That's the sound of isolated I don't need the rest of that I don't need the booming music. I just need the grunting noise of somebody who knows he's feeling pain and there's a lot of people around him who might've noticed it happened and I maybe did you a disservice by posting this. You you got up immediately after and started filming the was that a mechanism of you didn't want anybody to notice what happened. What what's going through your head. It's partially I didn't want anybody to notice and it's partially add was getting some good footage of you getting it in, but mainly I just didn't want anybody notice did anybody notice I don't think so.

It's good now. Devon Leary notice now that Bentley was locked and I will say this, and I don't have footage of this loan, but I did wear one in the yard from DJ or younger will that happen so I was like near the goalposts Clemson side and I was getting in on sidelines for years and I've never once been hit by a players football. It came out of nowhere, so the coaches were counted tossing some balls to some of the receivers nose in, like a low shot and light just added nowhere. I hear clocks me right below the eye and got a notice that oh yeah, the DJ now. He what he was calling for our meals longer past medium pass. I wore two balls from both cornerback when you said people notice how many people notice you get hit in the head with the foot pounding the jet I'm surrounded by staff for Clemson doing different things before the game and I'm literally right there in front of me getting her merrily as I maybe 20 minutes before takeoff. So the skin will will noisy little what was the highlight of your experience because we've now discussed the low lights.

It turned out to be a highlight. Don't don't don't get around not find it funny that getting hit in the face and getting hit in the nuts.

Those are not highlight we got good footage and hashtag nonsense, but was the highlight for you. So I stay down the field for like two hours just getting different shots you I was right there watching DJ who younger way warm-up and Devon Leary in just trying to get as close as I could and so I stay deadline because most of the media. By the time Dabo and Clemson ran down the hill.

They were arty back up the box. I stay down there and hung out. Actually I met in my earlier for the Yankees was doing security guard work, but now I stay down there for that and it was just it was so loud and it kinda had a feel of Cameron, but in a football sense of that make sense because like most of the press boxes, we go to there, your inside like, like the coordinators run the same floors. The coordinators and stops of the sound you'll get a good portion of the sample were light outside so we get all of it and it just felt a lot like Cameron because like I have light students headlight loose right behind your very close, which is ironic because I hung out with Chris Lee WR Ellen Raleigh are pretty much the whole gang. I sat next to him at the Panthers game right and and he literally made that same point like this is a lot like Cameron XO, let me hear the sound of you and very primal pain more time.

It's good stuff. Is it better sound than my dad decided to film a field goal without nets acidic in the end zone and getting drilled in the chest by a made field goal. You be the judge will hear me where is it. I didn't know we had his phone up rather than trying to live his life to catch a football.

Got a phone out is a people on Facebook and enjoy it. That's right, you get drilled in the chest with the ball and have some guys you got all the footage you got a holier bad Panthers next opponent is an action tonight Monday night football right here on WSJ. Yes San Francisco LA it's a rematch of the University of Egypt game. Seems like Sean McVeigh has the better team. Kyle Sheehan 74 and head to head with McVeigh ported to a really good rivalry is a question I have other get a cut in with Aaron judge at bats still looking for 62 I doubt it. ESPN will never infringe on the NFL, but I'll tell you how little they feel about college football and they are prime games on Saturday. I desire judge line at the center and striking out if you are a baseball fan and this is the only experience you have a judge, you probably think is a bad player doesn't do it all great.

We get to watch the sky strike out or fly out again supercool speaking of baseball braves braves sweeping the Mets up two games of the week to go in the alleys Miami is facing Atlanta tonight Mets facing Washington to be following that really closely. I called up Krista McCaffrey in the locker room after the Panthers lost Bill hear what he had to say about the offense of struggles will react to what he had to say next story of America's Stadium yesterday.

So how about we hear from one of the key figures in the Panthers offense had a chance to catch up with Krista McCaffrey after the game.

Clearly he wasn't in the best of moods.

It also took an hour and 15 minutes for him to come out. He was dealing with treatment. We were told that in mind if something should pop up on Wednesday or Thursday aquatic hamstring that rule set earlier today that will discussion all didn't aggravate the hamstring from last week instead pulled the other hamstring don't know if he's going to be available this week that will made it sound like that. Jeremy chins hamstring injury could be more than a one week injury will see if that comes into fruition.

But getting back to Christian.

It started with talking about the fans booing at Bank of America Stadium in a game just a couple of days into the month of October are deal or one in three was a lot of football left all of her goals. Still out of us have people turn on you is what it is we are better focus on anything like that doesn't matter. It's just up to us to put 1 foot from the other.

Take a good long look at ourselves in the mirror and fix the mistakes and move on with something that you see behind the scenes it makes you stick the problems fix our guys were really hard, lack of hard work and that something that's encouraging and frustrating it is a lack of execution on Sunday on the Sunday speaks every Sunday like I said, this is a week to week lead icing teams just last year, 17 when a straight so never out of the fight were deftly not a fight now is a lot of problems. No, we are fixing every problem is fixable and I think that's the frustrating part run in the next week you flush it you fix it though. Better to those problems. All problems bothered company football turn around as you confidence about the future knowing that the defendant seem to hold their defense to great. We just have to do better softens how confident were you planning I was confident in great appearance of Joe person at the end I did feel good, but it up on the ESPN scroll Krista McCaffrey downgrading how he feels felt great on Friday.

Felt good after the game. Something to think about out big J work here that were doing Graham's grades and about 10 minutes want to get back to the game at death Valley. If you have thoughts on the football this week and haven't had much time for calls at this point, but start the week off right 336-777-1600. What did you think about the Panthers losing to the Arizona Cardinals. I felt it was the worst loss of the mat rule era your Panther fan.

Is this an overreaction. Is this kind of beating caught in the moment know me when I think about his worst loss as I think about giants last year patriots last year that that was a bad when I was about one and in this one because remember its rules last stand like he needs these games you can be having performances like yesterday and forgot about the patriots one that's really good one. Throw in there, regardless of how the game and death Valley shook out we were going to learn something about the Wolfpack. It's very easy to be misled in 2022. Have you noticed that you see you watch the news, everybody gets their information from cable news anymore but if you do, you could see how much different. People look at the same thing.

How much different the perspectives are looking at the same thing whether you're watching MSNBC or Fox or CNN social media. The dark corners of the Internet but in college football.

This is something to wear. You have especially this time a year before conference play really gets fired up. You look up the best offenses in college football.

Look up who has the best numbers and it's about will. Who did you play and if you lose, how big of a deal is that how did you compete it's really easy to spin things into being really good, or being really bad and I try to push against that is much as I can. With that said though, I think the team we saw for much of that game Saturday night was the real NC state.

I don't think it was misleading.

I don't think it was a bad measurement.

I don't think it was fake. The real Wolfpack revealed themselves, but it didn't happen until the final two minutes of the first half. It was this was the key point of the game. NC State scored a touchdown to go up 10 to 6 is about two minutes to go in the half and its states getting the ball coming out of the second half so you can help think Clemson can't stop him on that drive and states can get the ball back up 10 six they could deliver a knockout punch and this game did feel like a prize fight for the first quarter. Each team only had the ball once long drives the defense standing at the goal line bending, not breaking. It felt like a heavyweight prize fight so I don't think that analogies a bad one bought rather than going into half downtown six Clemson turned the game on its head will simply we knew was going to be a key player in this game. He finally showed up Clemson's the line out of the second half ravaged Devon Leary three and now Clemson gets the ball they score, and when you think about it.

Clemson at that point had scored on four of its first five drives of the game. NC State skill guys turns out still a problem based on the playmakers there. I was talking with Aneesh Roth was the Panthers about this. You also had to NC State games this year and this thing was none of these guys are as good as him as he was. Devon Carter is who he is. At this point think they were there. Thomas really good slot receiver not an outside guy running backs are fine but not fine enough to run on this Clemson front top to top three run defense in college football and this is why the trends that we talked about on Friday really matter as they relate to state Dave Doran is not the coach who wins these types of games why me, but these types of games playing a top 10 team on the road that's not who we is dislike mat rule wasn't that coach when he was in college either as a means bad coach. It's just you have to be among the elite of the elite to win these types of games and Doran's not that really good coach. Not the type, it's going to beat Dabo in his house in the top 10 matchup. Dave Doran is now 10 and 36 as an underdog. I realize this until Rhys Davis set it on game day. That is the worst record in college football since 2013 in terms of being an underdog NC state is the worst record as an underdog in college football since 2013.

All Josh that's not those are past NC state team closer past NC State teams were talking about how we do around here. We we look past the help us figure out what to look like and projecting what these games are to be and everything we saw all 50 state Dave Doran's career was exactly what we saw on Saturday night in the same the other side trends with Dabo has lost her revenge game since 2014 with James Winston and Florida State meeting them back to back years have 36 now 37 consecutive home wins always went straight to the country. Dabo has made a career out of winning those types games. Dave Doran has done a nice job at state. He has not demonstrated at all that he's the coach you could trust to win that game and that's fine. I value good information. I value good point data points and that's what Saturday was it was a good data point. We learned a lot about Clemson, we learned, I think even more about what inti state is it rather than they are those things that send the package with me update you on something quick, storytime a lot of negative from yesterday terrible loss by the Panthers that will get back into shortly.

But there was some good Sam Mills was recognized. Mick Mixon called it the most important half time in the history of the Carolina Panthers. Our friend, former voice of the team. I was good. Frankie Lulu had a pick six. He looked good. He was the best player on the field. I felt no docents. I thought it was great.

There is some doubt Carolyn didn't when the came hard to say you the best player in the field when your team didn't win the game. Hollywood Brown it's a big place for Arizona and Kyla Murray whinnies off schedule will need to rehash some of the negative things for the Carolina Panthers, but this was pretty cool last week I asked Frankie how he was going to celebrate when number one on the season for Carolina and he said that he was to drink some tequila. Just kidding will hypothetically if you were to drink tequila. What would your drink any brought up the rocks. Brand really quick to answer.

So much so that it made it pretty obvious. My man was going to drink some tequila and what you just heard from the mayor was that he heard that exchange the rock himself since him some bottles of tequila.

After Frankie walked away a television reporter in Charlotte looked at me and said that's messed up on what you mean how does he not hook you up with a bottle of tequila you have your you're welcome Frankie for that and I'm fine that I didn't get a bottle of tequila because tequila isn't my thing I like. I'm not a tequila guy when I drink tequila. It's a 50-50 shot. Whether or not I'm gonna puke.

That's big arm of the one time I was at a dinner party took three back a shot of tequila because everybody wanted to do tequila shots and I did the mover acted like I had a phone call stepped out puke in the person's bushes.

So if were ever together and you offer me a tequila shot. And after I take the deal shot.

I say I have a phone call online what you doing now, let's get the critically acclaimed where we rank the top 10 of the ACC each week and please spare you the time talking about the really really bad teams of the ACC, but this last excludes all the bad because you have to pack.

One of the five worst games to include at number number 10 in the team that I've chosen to represent the misfit toys Georgia Tech got rewarded team hello got a big road win win in the Pittsburgh and won the game BC shot up to you. We took you and grams gambling last week. I need you to cover 15 they won the game outright, but that at home.

Louisville's not a good team there. Part of that group. Part of the bottom five of the Virginia schools are part of that to Georgia Tech after your coach was fired.

You deserve a good thing that happened to you and here's another get the top 10 critically quite numbered in Miami than anything yet.

What's Miami's best when honestly you look at it. Is it southern this and have it southern mass, then do you actually have a somewhat decent with what is there to into may be an HPC you they beat southern mass then lost the A&M and lost it home by two touchdowns.

The middle Tennessee.

That's pretty bad. Great skill, on the perimeter. Mario Cristobal doesn't have the players to play the style that he wants to play yet. That goes for former Demon Deacon one of the best assistance in college football. Josh Gaddis, BOC, it's just gonna take some time to get this thing coming. It will get humming. It ain't there yet. Number eight Panthers gross loss but Miami's loss.

I think the middle of the lot grosser the losing conference came to Georgia Tech and unlike Miami.

They at least demonstrated they could hang with Tennessee is a top 10 team probably could one that can went over time, some of us went down in the game if Lopez didn't go down. What happens they also beat West Virginia. This cross P5 games they went on the road to Kalamazoo and beat the brakes off Western Michigan beat them last year. Pittsburgh firmly in a numbering number seven the Duke blue Devils you've got a get in there. Therefore, in one bottle winter dinner. What is the regretting that here's three crabs after winds on Sunday night. We didn't expect to win this. Games maybe were just going to do crabcakes this week.

They were just doing crawfish this. We were running out of crabs.

Alaska grabs are you kidding form one on the season they won by three touchdowns against the team. They lost 249 to nothing last year in Virginia I know is I was there for every single snap of it. They got Georgia Tech this weekend right before they face North Carolina was announced. That's good to be an 8 o'clock kick. By the way, the ACC network not this Saturday but next couple interesting names very winnable.

I can't write off Duke for the coastal division. We were wondering if there was gonna be a dark horse team that division.

It's due.

So I said all year long teams and when the coastal Carolina Miami or Pittsburgh got add Duke to that met their the dark horse team that I can't write off number six Florida State all a lot of people by the gotten ahead of themselves when talking about the no maybe it's their fan base which is an interesting one when they're good and interesting families.

Lot of Knowles fans firing shots of Dave Clawson.

This guy scared of us doesn't want to play this game didn't look very scared on Saturday. There were good team there headed in the right direction, but they're not a contender in the Atlantic just yet.

They're not remotely close to where they were once before but a good team deserving of top 25 votes right now because the ACC I think having a pretty good year better year than the national pundits are spelling it out to be their number six is not even a top-five team and critically acclaimed and again I think their difficulty. Number five North Carolina target Virginia Tech's horrid but start there by it is a pretty positive step that after allowing 24 to fan you.

After allowing 28 the Georgia state, 61 to a group of five and at state holding a power fighting the 10 points positive step on the event the drink may five more touchdowns. He's got 22 touchdowns in five games. Tapered the impressive Carolina I think is in the driver seat when the coastal division number four Syracuse Orange unbeaten. How many other ACC teams could say that I think the list is Syracuse and Clemson right as the two unbeaten teams in the conference. They beat Wagoner okay whacker there off this week and the next game.

They have his home against NC State.

Another game that I have circled. Not once but twice getting the Wolfpack offered by give credit to Dino. I love his personality. I love how he fought through a dead man walking perception of last year to be a competitive team that ran the ball in play good defense in this year there putting it all together in a way that's pretty fun to watch.

Numbers three NC State good team.

Not a great it looked like a prize fight in the first African funds in five-minute got away which you would expect the last two weeks have made clear what the hierarchy in the ACC. I do think there's some separation between the top three in the next group. These three themes aren't separated by a heckuva lot, but this is the order pretty clearly that they belong and that's what we've learned. The last couple weeks of state is not top three grouping of the ACC. I don't see that changing and less again. Syracuse wins that game a week from Saturday, but they are pretty clearly as far as I can see outside of the top two number 2 x 4 that was maybe the most impressed. I've been with Dave Clawson after you hear he's a great coach because he is a great and what he's done at Wake Forest is truly incredible but with the hurricane distraction physical toll of playing Clemson in double overtime with the emotional hurdle of putting that game in the past two with allowing a touchdown on the first drive again two minutes again to put all that behind you, then just wave would going up 21 seven be in control much of the way through the game. Much of the game. I don't think I've been more impressive way. After the game.

How great was a closet. I asked him something.

I would ask is not there some folks out there to the folks who thought that we didn't want to play this game.

We wanted to play this game. We're really happy that we are in Tallahassee. It was a high level whimper Wake Forest number one. Middle Tennessee cleansing the Atlantics.

This is the sad reality of the Atlantic is locked up two months away from the ACC championship. I also found it funny that the ACC announce that I think it's on sale for the ACC championship game. I read that as soon fans if you already want to buy your tickets. Just look at the schedule where wares to losses that where are they, because in order for state were wake when the ACC they need to run the table in many Clemson to lose twice as Clemson is the tiebreaker against both and that isn't going to happen just as much has to go wrong in order for Clemson to lose game.

That's the sad reality of it division was football did not come soon enough. Two months to go in perhaps the best division in college football. I don't know if I believe that you can make a case for it.

The ACC Atlantic it's already games that match with two months remaining. And I don't think it's a good thing. That's critically acclaimed for this week is a strange answer from Baker Mayfield after the game. So is Baker saying that Dan should you the bill so that'll help the offense score. I'm imagining a well-meaning panther fan going to next Sunday's game against San Francisco and Billick hey everybody, let's start billing. We need to get the off sculling just like I saw the guys in the stands last night going section by section, trying to get the mat rule chance going Ellis Williams joins is now Panthers beat writer Matt rule spoke with the media for about 20 minutes today as he does after games on Monday gives you the full wrap up after course he watches the day what piece of rules, comments today or after the game yesterday stood out to you to mow Salas. I think there is a lot you know pretty blunt about where the offense is that belief in the defense saying things like, we are often kicking up a little bit and make him play tonight and it happened last night. I eat that when you can play work the way it did. Again, a player as electric as Kyler Murray and contained him first Avenue enter structure order really not for they are able to do that in the offense happened on Sunday.

What felt like a low point in Baker make yields career. I think it's important to point out that he is in a spot where coming up not getting any easier.

Record the most challenging of coming from 49ers RAM.

I'm not sure what the path rectifying the often that all matter i need to figure out third out is on Twitter at Cabela's to do a great job of breaking down things as I told you in the past, making things really can consumable in your writing but also talking a lot about formations and things that might just seem like minutia to football fans or a different language to those who just want to go to the game. Grab a brewing baby eat a hot dog. So how about you best explain to me into the audience what you view Krista McCaffrey after the game was saying there are a lot of problems and want to identify one particular thing. What do you see as the number one problem with the offense. It really start to 900 Baker Mayfield right now is the are all over the place you for whatever reason, not high work to you or the play call in the all of our brain erratically away from him.

Quarterback Patrick Mahoney and Aaron Rodgers can get away with that workshop, people are of reasons. There are metallic makeup work way they can often spot along the shoulder and waistline right can't do and that's fine Alina quarterback I made the two were in the league right so that only the reflection of something the co-teacher Baker Mayfield but work at Tottenham and doing so on the play that are called depending on the work that way deep impeccable. I hope that it can put global doing here and the educational because that will all your breaking it down. Well, like in I think I think the thing that lot you don't. If anybody's taking it as he's not Patrick. The homes or he's not one of those wizards as you called them.

I think that's I think you're right to say you don't need to be that in order to win in this league.

I think about a guy.

For example, who calls Panther games now like Jake loam understood who he was and it was very controlled in the pocket not making a ton of mistakes and we see that his defense is so good that and I guess the NSC intern is so bad and on the other. On the flip side of this that Carolina will probably be a 500 quality, maybe even a 91 football team if they simply do not turn over the ball and are controlled team offensively like they were against the New Orleans Saints. It was nothing flashy about it. They move the sticks enough and they didn't turn over the football and it was enough to win a game in this league yesterday they did it accomplish that is that a good way to sum up, kind of what you're getting at. Yeah that directly it have to be recite by detail quickly Baker Mayfield in order when considering how other and that didn't happen in the coming tomorrow or outplay the average like Ellis Williams is with us here okay I forget the movies that I threw at you every week, every week we throw movies at WDM. He watch the town last week. This week he's got he had Joe person selected Scarface forum so is like Scarface. I got a Rambo. Oh yeah, you and I talked about Rambo in the press box and you watch boogie nights for the first time last week you this is great.

So all now now you need to knock out in some order. All the Presidents men didn't these in when Harry Met Sally went to the three excites you the most happily. I started it last Saturday was hired because of the week and didn't want to sleep important part and I wanted to get the time it deserves.

So I need to get to that when Harry Met Sally like that figure were all in need of a comedy right now right yet. We need romantic comedies in our life is no doubt about it. Also overlook the slight in the press box yesterday when I sit down and have time or eating a hot dog. Somebody walks up. You say hey your tweets been fire ON hi Josh look like I could I, I, your real live treetrunk fire in the first draft and there can only be one person who gets the most fire tweet each half so you know we got next week. All right, that's it. You know we are. I watch the film watch the tape and we are at the end of the day on to San Francisco and I will see next week how fire the tweets are. If you want to read the firework of one Ellis Williams you could do some Charlotte Observer.com or on Twitter at Cabela's Ellis enjoy the time between now and Sunday left, I will