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I have this Antonio Brown stories no longer funny now that former trainer Brittany Taylor filed a civil lawsuit using a beer grade if I'm being honest and very frustrated today with the TV and radio coverage I've seen of this topic all across the sports media landscape.

Here's what I think we need to do more of you. We need to be fair to both sides in this rails against what were taught to do in sports media. The mechanics of sports talk in sports debate where you pick one side and you defend that and yard. If you'd argue for that. That's not what we need to do here. We need to be fair to both Antonio Brown and to Brittany Taylor usually work coach not to sit on the fence I'm going to do that today. We don't need a hot take. We need more information and we need to be absolutely fair to both sides with AB. Let's stop pretending that he didn't sacrifice anything. This is something that his just bothered me to know in the last few days with baby just because he gets on the New England Patriots and seemingly gets what he wants because on a YouTube video he puts out on Saturday. He's celebrating and running around in his yard when the Oakland Raiders released him. Somehow we believe that he's lost nothing in this financially. He has was guaranteed $30 million with the Oakland Raiders pretty much now he's guaranteed $9 million. That's everything in the NFL guaranteed money is what you make what you know you can account for so there's a financial aspect here. The other things this socially AB's reputation and his dignity had been tarnished in a way I don't think any athlete short of committing actual crimes and being convicted as an athlete who's had the reputation tarnished as much as AB has in the last nine months. It happened in such a short period of time in week 15 of last football season. AB was known as maybe being a bit of a narcissistic guy would film Mike Tomlin's postgame comments on Facebook live and do a lot on social media people thought that they didn't think he was alone. They didn't think AB was a clown show. They didn't think this was somebody who would hurt your football team, but that is not there for the regular-season finale and all the antics that have been unprecedented. This entire off-season. So when it comes to AB. Let's just make sure what were saying is accurate here to say that this is someone who's lost nothing across the last few months and being tradable way from Pittsburgh to Oakland and then losing all that guaranteed money and now being accused in a civil lawsuit of rate by a former trainer. There's a lot at stake for Antonio Brown. As for Brittany Taylor, AB's defense was prepared as legal team was ready. They put out there statement almost in conjunction with what Brittany Taylor put out there in the saw a lawsuit actually being filed to Rosenhaus was on TV. Earlier today, the defense is it's always the same when it's against women. She wants money. That's all she wants. She wants fame. Why is she talking now those are the three things money, fame and timing.

I don't buy any of those and I'm tired of people repeating these points. Time and time again when historically a lot of those claims are unfounded when it comes to women accusing people of sexual crimes. She wants the money in the state of Florida. The bare minimum, you can ask for in this type of suit the civil lawsuit is $75,000. That is what she's seeking from Antonio Brown AB if you if you want more for maybe you probably could ask for more. He certainly got it. He's he could supply that.

But why the bare minimum value for this civil lawsuit. As far as I understand it, she wants fame. This is the most bogus defense. She wants fame. Is this really the way you want to become famous hose that helped out look at the stories about St. Monica Lewinsky in the 90s had what she's gone through the last few decades, who would seek that out. Any woman who speaks up who would want to be famous for who you slept with who you were raped by, or who do accused of rape. Who wants that to be on your obit when things are all said and done I know fame is a powerful thing in America, something we very strongly value, but there are certain kinds of fame I'm I don't think anybody would want and this I would say is one of those, then the timing of it all.

Any psychologist will tell you this. It's victimhood 101 when it comes to sexual crimes that the more prominent somebody is featured in the news media, the more likely somebody is to come out and speak about what crimes they believe those people to have done. It's victimhood 101.

It's not hey, this seems like the right moment to hit him if that was the case, you want hit him when he had 9 million guaranteed dollars and we had 30 million guaranteed dollars just a few months ago so that argument doesn't make much sense here. I'm not picking aside Antonio Brown or Brittany Taylor I'm to say I don't have enough information. Right now, and I think we need to be fair to both AB and Brittany Taylor.

In this instance. We'll talk more about the subject with Darren Gant when he joins us a little bit later on in the hour drive is broadcast live in the Law offices of Timothy D. Wellborn studios today learn about the waste and wellbore can help you online@timwellborn.com. You'll know when you need us to Johnson producer today show intern Arthur McCallum Arthur what your last name Mark. I don't even know your last name is Arthur Kristof is billed as the program is not an intern okay is part-time. Okay you sissies is working in here today. See, I we we rarely ever cross overlap paths with one another, but it's good to have you here 336-777-1600 Arthur and Desmond will be taking your phone calls today on Twitter at sports are dryad shifting things to cam Newton other than cam Newton not hitting the deep ball on Sunday. There's no sensible reason to believe his arm strength has left him no sensible reason to believe that rather than just giving you opinions let me just give you a bunch of facts. Cam Newton had reconstructive surgery on his shoulder in March 2070 at the fact you probably already knew that that you know though that year that he played 16 games through for over 3000 yards and the Carolina Panthers made the postseason. Let's not forget about the details. The following year when everything went wrong last season. Cam Newton barely practiced after the Philadelphia come from behind win. Carolina was still winning games at that point they want two more games after that cam Newton was limited in practice to the point where he was just practicing once a week and it was limited in which he was going because his arm and the strength of his passes was deteriorate deteriorate.

Then you got this year. Cam Newton. He undergoes surgery in January, which is important. Remember the reconstructive surgery was in March 2017. He played that year, 3000 yards and the postseason. This year it's January some more time to recover and it was a reconstructive surgery. It was more cleaning up the previous surgeries, so it was less invasive without medical experts on the show talking about that fact and that there are differences between the two. Cam started throwing footballs in April, way ahead of schedule during training camp. He's throwing the deep ball we saw it a couple times to Curtis Samuel, and he has been limited practice last week or this week.

He's not on the injury report so I understand if cam is upset that he is continuing to be asked about this just because he hasn't thrown a deep ball yet cam is clearly sick of this and he made that known in his press conference yesterday is really just showed up about this talk to the physical. Whatever type of thing.

Don't think I can thought about over 20 hours for sale for about that.

If he is limited. He deserves awards for his performances and press conferences this week on Sunday after the game.

He said he was relieved that he got through an entire game to deal with any problems with the shoulder he he's not through the woods, he said, but he said it was. There was some relief to get through a full football game in the narrative not be that he can't complete the game or reasons of health, then yesterday he's joking he's having fun, it's normal. Cam Newton disliked he was last week he was asked specifically, do you still have the deep ball. It was cam's response course – from women older through a fiscal make us way. Oh, very. Because of the above, North Turner impressions back. I like that right there at the end, North Turner impression is pretty darn good enjoyable happy joking cam Newton is a danger to the NFL when he's in their moody and short answer bullet checking in almost that's when you're like okay is about to lose Sunday because it came in a bad mood, but if cam in a great mood is playing loose, joking with teammate Leslie and they almost defeated the defending NFC champs with four Turner well well on the Sunday but it was because of his health right just because cam Newton doesn't play well doesn't mean it is help at times crazy concept. Players just don't play well, and that would happen we cam Newton on Sunday with Boston teams don't throw the deep ball as often as they used to. Here's where analytics have crossed into the NFL.

It's taken over major-league baseball in the MBA in the NFL. And I think it's hurt the product to a degree. Teams are petrified to throw the ball down the field. Petrified scene less and less downfield passing in the NFL. And that's because statistically, according to those analytics sabermetrics. The further the ball travels down the field. The higher risk there is for something bad happening ball being picked off a ball being tipped something that's not positive that's like teams look at first down.

Let's throw it three down. Let's get three and the goal is to get third in 330 and four. That's what you want it hurt the product. No one wants to watch that once the pro-quarterbacks watch quarterbacks just throw it sideways for three hours. Thank God we have guys like Patrick. The homes in the week now and Baker Mayfield who make things a lot of fun but most of the NFL is that what look at the ramps for exit example they took the one shot on the first drive to Brandon Cook's really had a legitimate deep ball.

The rest of the game.

None of the comes to mind but nobody saying that Jared Goff doesn't have the deep ball he gets the big contract on the great was it taken anymore soft on the field who's more aggressive than from years since where the NFL's at right now and that's that's completely fine up what the USA basketball team one today. This is the drive. Let's talk about this is 620 drive with Josh Graham to our next it always seems like we arrived and were asking ourselves in the realm whatever it is that given week. Given that guest is daring and pro football… You can follow one later story today as it's been really the last month is Antonio Brown except that this is no longer funny anymore in any way. When you start getting into civil lawsuits and those lawsuits, including allegations of rape. Darren, welcome to the show appreciate you coming on with us. What's the worst thing you think the NFL could do to mess this up. Boy, that's a good gripe because there's so many ways been a fellow could screw this up and it feels like they are in the process of it, and I'll apologize in advance if I get in a little bit of Aranda click it you went your transitional moment here. I'm tired of being a football story doesn't need to be a football story. So far we've had football team say week that were going to say we had football agent, say this woman just out for a cash grant we football announcers talk about this.

We had enough of his human beings, talking about what may or may not happen. The woman I don't know.

I don't know if she's guilty I don't know if she's innocent what I do know is that it doesn't need to be framed in the way all Antonio Brown to be able to play week, this thing has to so long ago. I don't even know where to begin, and it got about the larger frustration for me because so many of the stories get painted this way and where we are and I get the sports talk radio station and I write stories for a living. But when we treat these things so lately it's just bothersome to me.

And right there with you but at the same time you got what you find more interesting about the actual news of this Antonio Brown and this the case itself with this woman Brittany Taylor or not necessarily the football side of what the patriots in the NFL are doing with but how they need to go about handling the image in the air quote protecting the shield here. Well, I think they have made a decided effort recently to keep start lawyers on the air as you saw with the way they handled Tyree kill. I mean, there's almost a rush to get them back on the field rather than a rush to investigate this thing fully and make sure we know hundred percent what's going on in the business reality well they know they need hours on the field. The galley is not out there for the Cowboys are or Tyree kill not out there for the Gtech bad for business and you know it. You and I can maybe I've been cynical for too long and now it dawning on me that hey, this is just a business but it does feel like that were rushing to that point and mean regardless of the facts in the case of Brittany Taylor and myself for saying her name back to the case of this woman, we all in full steam ahead to Antonio Brown football we know for sure without a shadow of a doubt is Antonio Brown has terrible judgment. Antonio Brown does not think things through all the way you suck and you know we quickly rewarded him with a free pass to the best team in the NFL for being a jerk to the writers I mean he looks to me like a guy who realized he was on the terrible pain and did everything he could to get all in one can't on twitter@darrengantprofootballtalk.com shifting things to tomorrow night. It's a quick turnaround for the Carolina Panthers as they face the Tampa Bay Buccaneers cam was jovial yesterday he was laughing off some questions about his shoulder. The North Turner impression made a return. How concerned are you at this point, after watching one week of football about cam's shoulder early yet I think it probably worth remembering the midfoot brain in those things are no joke and I know they said he was old, but in practice the week before but after he got for pulling the preseason there.

There was something happening there for a reason he was toppling for a reason and I think anytime you're talking about a person who throws things in exchange for money output can be as big a deal as a shareholder, sometimes the mechanics but I think the combination of rusty the fluid problem that obviously I mean the guy ran ball three times for negative yards. That's something he's never done in his career is pretty easy to look at that game you know whether the source might be right right just yet. Now, lingering shoulder, is it simple realized the put bothersome.

I don't know but not canned yet and I think until he gets back to something a little more closely resembling runaround KM improvise KM play with some kind of rhythm can become hard to see where he actually finish the sentence. Darren if the Carolina Panthers lose to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers tomorrow night yeah go to buy your bottled water beverage or preference storms coming now.

Yeah, it's early games into the season.

People have overcome slow start before but yet that game you want to lose primarily because the boxer bad they don't have very many good football players and and James Swenson was pretty dreadful. I cannot get root variance was explained in a way, to the interception the other day. Well, okay. That left one and that didn't include the three that were dropped by the 49ers been fixed. I get it that yeah the box are very good. So if you lose them at home shortly could not find the problem. You would think, even if cam's not throw it over mountain cam Newton of the past that he would be able to play the way he played for Last year he could say rubbish or pastor to Chris McCaffrey, let him do his thing that they ought to be able to win that game all select members of the media and of course listeners on the show on Monday who kind of thought I was just trying to see when other zag when I suggested that the Carolina Panthers, the result they had on Sunday actually wasn't a bad result for them even though they lost to the Rams. It's week one day they rolled New Orleans week one.

Last year we saw what happened after the fact.

There it looks like to me Darren that the two biggest problem areas from last year seem to be improve the offense of line Erin Donald wasn't a factor on Sunday and that's a huge compliment the outline defensively. The new scheme. The pass rush Ryan Burns. He was making an impact on the game and he got very close to golf a handful at times he's good to be a really good player for the Panthers. Then if you factor cam Newton South and do it. I thought I mean cam even said it himself after the game he was relieved that the narrative after a game is not his health, but instead maybe I just in a place a while and there's rust in their do you buy the notion that even if you lose a game that maybe the result isn't quite a failure yeah I'm cool with that you lost by three point thing that was in the Cooper ball last year could be worse. You could be the Jacksonville Jaguars and lose your quarterback so yeah, I think, all things considered, it wasn't a disastrous result by any stretch of imagination. They lost 40 nothing or are something like that. The Rams say yeah I think you know then you get really concerned and all that kind of stuff but there were quite there were moments of competent scattered in there where look like okay what is the thing they do.

And honestly when they when they correlate to get it to what 2323 point game. Yeah okay are they going to do this today and the way McCaffrey was planned reason to be encouraged that I still believe that the playoff caliber roster as it stands right now.

If these people were all on the on the field week 17 now to be talking about what they need to do to get into the playoffs or having already gotten the best concert you've been to lately or that you're planning to attend the last one I saw was Peter Frampton a couple weeks ago when she Frampton and the Jason bottom yeah whatever you call in the Led Zeppelin cover band play with really cool is not the rest of the defendant. But better battling a degenerative neuromuscular disease here know how much longer to be able to play guitar in it. The end of the show, which was full of great Peter Frampton songs and everybody loved him.

You know he's sitting there basking in the applause of the crowd embraced your farm yell and having a good time.

He can hold his palms up to the sky.

He said you people heal me, was pretty profound.

I mean, you have great expectations didn't know what Peter Frampton was good to be like.

But it was both a great show and a moving human moment, staring on Twitter at Darren lover of music great on football as well from pro football talk.com Darren got football tomorrow night. Looking forward to it. Thanks for doing this young man staring down to chat with him is always and we will be at Panthers Buccaneers tomorrow night.

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Just as protect the thing in your chest that keeps you alive. There's a Super Bowl halftime performer that is been rumored today. Eight a rumor with the Super Bowl halftime show swirling all day today. I'll tell you who might be performing at the big game. Next on the drive talk live with Josh Graham 4609 2010 bucks in the second story of the day Antonio Brown, civil lawsuit filed against him patriot practicing getting ready for a game this week, which means Bill Belichick and Tom Brady both went to the podium and of course they're going to be asked questions about Antonio Brown, Tom Brady just moments ago asked if he had any comment on a be said no and then said, why not things that don't involve me involve me." We don't have official confirmation that AV is staying to sell in Tom Brady's house is also one that runs that house… Make that known. If you watch the documentary that was done on time.

The series there you could see she is the power figure in Tom is completely fine with that because he loves her. That way, and loves her so much but think Giselle really wants this Antonio Brown stuff in her household, and now I feel like there's something there but Brady isn't given that Bill Belichick this is the closest I've ever heard a reporter to pinning down Bill Belichick but just know you can't see the visual here.

You just here Belichick when he tries to follow and pin them down.

Belichick is giving this reporter the death stare that looks I would imagine like staring into the eyes of Medusa is also my leg was neglected back and forth about midnight… I can hear the PR staffer jump again here.

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I mean it should not be shocked. There is talk.

They are, but it's uncomfortable it's already uncomfortable and he's been on the team for three or four days. Let's do the top 10 list on Twitter at sports up Triad John Curry workforce director of athletics will join us in 10 minutes. It's time for my top 10 box Johnson proceeding the Panthers tomorrow 10 box number 10 number 10 is my home, my entire life never watched it one time like knives in the one from VHS go to movie.

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I need to keep my head on a swivel and watch out for always on target. That's right, you target Thursday careful, be mindful hopefully did 100 bucks center that was on the outside looking at what I am shocked the nasty did not make this little nasty voted tooth out your 2000 most hated player to the player haters will force here, but now he didn't get me out of the connection he was in the first Buck Rogers, Roger, and then will send very good. I can include more than one boxing railing may become overdue outs and listening to a point where it is right now. Where is attendance for North Carolina Wake Forest at this present moment.

443 Wednesday afternoon workforce, director of athletics John Curry will join the show to tell the crews that this is 609. 20. Now back to the drive with Josh Graham of athletics, John. Just build out media.

We are 49 hours and minutes away from Wake Forest football hosting one of the bigger games I can remember when Dave Clawson, senior North Carolina coming down the first time in a long time. Conveniently, John Curry, now a guest on the show and I want to get to what you guys were doing earlier this morning a little bit later on in our conversation, but I want to start with a couple housekeeping notes here in relation to the game on Friday night where you at last time you checked today when it comes to ticket sales for Friday night's game. John and I will make a great product not have you really feel how and not with Carolina coming off great with great national interest in regional report today run around quite a bit but I know we've made great progress and were probably a couple thousand tickets away from cell. Now do you expect this game to sell out Josh as of last week actually, we didn't expect it to fill out for a number of reasons, but Hackett turned pretty hot and were expecting a very large walk-up. I would really really encourage Fran to go ahead and bother pickets today or tonight on the Internet or tomorrow used to print home teacher going to have to get in your hand or come by the ticket office Bridger Fieldhouse parking area you can get in and get out between 830 and five today and tomorrow I will be open Friday but I really can be better to go and get him and we do anticipate one of the larger walk-up that we got there we had to make sure that you had a great experience. We gave away two parent tickets yesterday on the show and Dez was just we got we have phone call after phone call after phone calls people who are just interested to get tickets to this football game and then I did the wake zone last night with Chris Lee on WXII and the feedback we're getting about this game.

It's just so much excitement on both ends of the spectrum. Of course Wake Forest man's are jacked up about the Tar Heels coming in, but background North Carolina very excited as well but looking at the Friday night games do you think that is her this already. Not being a sellout or even the first game not being not reaching the 30,000 threshold. Do you think Friday night hurts you a little bit for $45 is our entry-level price for this game so if you think about the cost of your world-class football.

This is the part 500 treated schools is a reasonable price and so I would encourage people like you don't know much higher should continue to come to the Codex.com or call us at 758-3322, Friday night is not our optimal night to play college football. And we said that repeatedly Josh Saturday is the day are we are in partnership agreement that is very significant to the torrent of petitions, it does call for some Thursday or Friday games just like the big cat in the big 12 in the pack 12 yoke Friday night present an obstacle for some certainly have an impact on high school football and vice versa. Know that your families are keen whose parties you know are split between neither high school planks on in their college going sun and we recognize that that's not optimal. On the other hand, you do hear from people that they can't come on Saturday morning because her kids have Little League football games or Little League soccer games or softball. Whatever it is work on Saturdays regarding today's and in the evening is tolerable. We do recognize at 6 PM right on the rush hour or rush minute as a like to say here what you obsolete. We do not plan ahead and get to the stadium in order to camp after that and got the Anna Sansone opened up at 3 o'clock for the band tomorrow is watchtower which is Friday's watchtower which is played by Dave Matthews tunes and we got beer trucks and games for kids in STUFF were you satisfied with the crowd for the opener was great and I hurt somebody great commenter people about the excitement of that historic event with a failed state red Cedar pampering band. It was a really special night and in our our team was excited to see the family. It was the largest argument read this in my from the court letter which we can offer you earlier today is our largest home open crowd looking to take aim at 2011. It was our largest student crowd. Since Notre Dame in 2011 and the second largest number students to enter the game in 12 years. So the really awesome awesome statistics.

We had a record opening night from confessions which help all things considered, it was a wonderful night, and certainly particular clock to make sure the game was really close only right down to the end. The key people captivated and entertained was probably about 15 or 20 steps away from you in the final stretches of the game fair to say that nerves were maybe setting in just a little bit.

It was maybe a little too dramatic for John Kerry's junker is my well you know I recognize you as your junker is on Twitter@John_Kerry's Wake Forest director of athletics were talking to coach Clawson at his press conference yesterday and he made no bones about it. He said he wants to play North Carolina more often doesn't want to be once every six years of the ACC rotation. That's why this game is a nonconference game between waking North Carolina because he believes this program should play each other regularly short of the ACC going to win nine game week schedule. Is there any way the conference can have North Carolina play wake more often at what point divisional play with the 17 division and the crossover is fairly well-established. You know those things are really hard to put together with so many competing interests but absolutely it would be my priority as well to play doctor more often are. Heck, I would love to play some of the other rivals that we have historically from the originally cc Village, Virginia, or whomever lost Cunningham affect thought about today to make sure he was all set, and the game of Friday's great friend. You have your opportunities to do that more will look at how you guys already had discussions about furthering the series beyond what's on the books. We had a brief talk about this you ever thought what if we did haven't got time done I will conversation the figures and openness, but as you well know, it requires you take two to tango required a lot of things to match updates all accounts that were scheduled out will have it in front of me but scared about what with a couple exceptions to the next eight or nine years, so I will continue to evaluate what opportunities may arise. Would you be in favor of a nine-game league schedule.

So yes, I would be but I also understand the position of others in the conference might not be. We had a nine-game schedule you for around 12 it was wonderful for fans.

It was on the hard in the conference. We have a requirement that every school play another powerful team and this is a game for us this week. In addition to the conference schedule nine-game would impact potentially schools like Georgia Tech or Florida State or Clemson that have an automatic crossover not Cross River but an automatic power five rival South Carolina for Florida state, Georgia Tech, Georgia, and you have some years where nonconference game scheduled her planet nonconference game schedule plus Georgia Tech play Georgia plus is going to be rotational and they also play Notre Dame so all of a sudden you're into 11 power five games and in one nonqualified game until I understand what is concerned about that from from some school perspective on the other hand, part of what makes college football great competition in community and Robert I would default towards that which is. I would prefer adding another cop screamed. This morning I saw you put out a tweet was much when I started my day with and seeing what you are doing out at the stadium this morning. It is the 18th anniversary of 9/11 tell me a little bit about what event you had today. Well, it was an event driven by the department, military science, the with the sale battalion of the reserve officers training Corps chart.

They want to learn came here to the to carnal ring ring-it was there this morning and little tweet with her this morning, the Italian joint effort of work or jointly joints together with failed state Wake Forest and fail, which is really cool I even know that until I got here, but this was. This is driven by motorcycles and RTC 2997 steps recognizing the terrorism all on 9/11 in it was an awesome deal started six in the morning and in it, but we are back looking baseball coach Jerry Hoffman golf without that were out there volleyball team is out there.

It was an offer and I would just challenge people in our community.

9/11 2020 6 AM it is a really really cool community event. We continue to make us think bigger and recognize the servicemen and women who protect our country and there were firefighters there from the fire department. It would doing decline in their full protective fire suit with oxygen tanks on her back and it was just a really, really cool community event at BB&T Field, John, thank you so much for doing this. I hope it's a tremendous crowd yet again on Friday night. We look forward to being there. Look forward to a great crowd, early. Have a great time and enjoy your college football is fun. Thanks so much John, that's John Terry Wake Forest, director of athletics is 620. Now back to the drive Josh Graham Wake Forest wide receiver St. Saran earlier in the week getting set for North Carolina. The big game already but I can only imagine what it's like for that family. Think about the parents. Apparently moms to be wearing St. Surette dirt jersey Wake Forest jersey while dad to be wearing a North Carolina jersey brothers to be flying in the Air Force to attend the game and chat Surette was saying that he's going to sit in the North Carolina section. So there's some representation there for the visiting Tar Heel but Sage's been fantastic the last two games and had an excellent freshman season to and with Kendall Hinton out of the lineup for this week's game. He's good to be leaned on heavily. Which means there's opportunity, with 10 being in the slot, likely in Kendall's place he could be lined up against his brother. Chat Surette who switched positions from quarterback the linebacker and was excellent in game one against South Carolina leading self-care, North Carolina and tackles the Tar Heels or to a know Wake Forest is to know it's a massive game. So what course we were looking forward to speaking with St. Surette. Here's how that conversation sounded say this is your first opportunity to go up against North Carolina it's your brother in a minute. But in state match out what is I represent, you know, every year you see every year. You know it makes more the state championship line between the four schools online even more is a great force.

You know open up between the states was big when I think you know this first time since 19 I can take the day that we play all three schools at home. 1921, and so is so you know this is this is exciting for us as school or program you know you do so is a different experience playing on Friday night. I know things that we react to because it affects schedules and people want to work during the day, but as a player is different in all little bit in a week. I now assigned to last is not as different as overall. In general I think it is especially with the larvae on Friday night so is difficult, be different. Sage was a soccer player and in high school when probably my favorite athletic experience was getting a chance to play against my brother and it was such something we talked trash. During the week.

The high school level that something we look forward to now you're playing it like varsity teams to announce an in-state game might be a sold-out game with North Carolina and at your brother playing defense, where's your head at during the week do you talk to him during the week you trust on going on, you know, that arises in the house. No preference was online as well.

So I think if I'm planning you know so say you know, as you talk about forever. So no fossils on the line. I think this is just between two of us are going to affect Thanksgiving dinner is not a thanks man probably brought a more going on, give me the story. The most competitive you and your brother was football monopoly boardgames anything stick out is a lot of competitive pieces lock stories I say most like to probably like two years ago we play one-on-one basketball at the YMCA and you know you got. I think we both had game point started off with the shooting game. Once you and that he won the play when we went to somehow so that it was a top ballgame and then we finished the game Found each other before the horse. Meiosis course so and that's private.

So let the record show St. Surette better basketball player and chassis rental have the right yeah I know I say better but my best lesson for you were talking about you guys.

You guys are the actual competitors you get to affect the result. Your parents don't not think this will be especially mom is hard to see no chance on, watch yes it is about to get hers at that point, not price stands so should be noted.

Chaz told me in Charlotte that if he gets a shot hit the field. I know that for sure. He's told me that you know. Any chance I come across so I could make a mess, I'm probably going to let them know about it later. So nothing is no good chance know this is thanks for doing this. Enjoy the moment.

On Friday from think sites around, and that his seed Surette and it was funny that he mentioned what his brother's been texting him. He knew that he was going to try and take shots at and whatnot. I was brought up the chance yesterday evening and Chaz's response to that just makes it known that he might have to send a message being the older brother in the equation.

In my theme is, go hard or not the first time I see another cosmologist because he is in your eyes with me in the boundary. So once again to the game. I think this will take over. This is going to be so cool. Friday nights.

These two were teammates in high school and they haven't been on the same football field together since jazz his senior year and you go back and look at it. Chaz had 40 or 45 touchdown passes to sage their career together chassis asked if they ever played against each other in any setting organized sports.

He said maybe wants an AAU basketball there teams played maybe one time but other than that, no.

So on a football field. This is the first time and what makes it more interesting is that Sage's on offense and Chaz is on defense. This is just a story behind thrust into the middle of what is already a compelling important game again that I think is the most important Wake Forest home football game of Dave Clawson's tenure. Or at least, it's the most highly awaited one he's had this is a game that we circle these teams will play each other that often and what is good. They have the coaches a Hall of Famer.

They have a quarterback and was excited about getting top 25 votes.

Meanwhile, what Boris is going to bowl games. Three consecutive years, and they won those ballgames. They don't get any love may be a quarterback with a grassroots Heisman campaign to be a first or second round draft pick in the NFL team that was 11 into last year they beat them and go on the road. Unlike North Carolina rats apply to Rogaine yet. Granted, it's against Rice take care of business and I getting any love wake up there's a ship there. Wake Forest that I think doesn't exist with weight or exceed with North Carolina. That's why like the Dix to win.

I usually don't do score predictions.

But since Chris asked me to last night I was in the XII studio doing the wakes and with them I gave a score.

I gave thought into what I think the score is going to be and I think North Carolina there they're going to have moments where you you think okay there to do this. Here it is three and I start adjustments and coaching will get Wake Forest through more depth or experience playing in bigger games Wake Forest and went and they can win by double digits, Wake Forest 31 North Carolina 20. The drive is brought to you by our friends at Twin Peaks Restaurant Haynesville Blvd. in Winston-Salem. You can find of a great sponsor of the program put in place to watch games working to be going to four games and four nights boardgames afford North Carolina and Wake Forest is the second leg of that Panthers Tampa Bay tomorrow night and then taking plane to Baltimore to watch East Carolina play at Navy I've never seen a game at Navy before and also this can be the first on the watch East Carolina in the stands.

My entire time as a student I been every game, every home game that that for years but never never watched a game in the stands that difficult stating and then on Sunday, do a little scouting after this Thursday night game for the Panthers. They played Arizona Cardinals on the road to Kyla Murray.

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