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September 16, 2019 6:57 pm

Guest Host Daron Vaught with Desmond Johnson and Aaron Gabriel. Daron fills in for Josh today as the guys look back at the good and bad of Week 2 of the NFL Season. Chip Patterson from CBS Sports stops by to talk College Football. Voice of the Panthers Jim Szoke chimes in on the Panthers. Tune into The Drive with Josh Graham Mon-Fri 3-6pm on Sports Hub Triad!

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I have learned a lot back with drive sports help Johnson the other side, I'm in for Josh Grant today and I told during the break I was terrible habit of just grabbing the mechanism with which the microphone is held up in front of me as I talk on that as I told you I just finished telling you what to do it for me to say words.

Here, my hand is wrapped around so sometimes it makes like a little rattling noise. I'm sure I'm trying a iced. I promise I get paid to do this and notice the people to sit in that chair they have their own little things and get the Quercus Josh choose on pins like all day long on Friday, something sort of reason operations are easy to probably tell you whatever my tickets but whatever it is that a pin in that studio. Neither of ours is as weird as Josh's know a lot of people chew on pins but he he just quit that fits him. It's weird he eats them, what you literally weird you excuse me New Orleans them down like it's it's crazy. You pick him up and like all just been at the bottom of the dolomite has been known about that. Not about that weeping over his his job.

I don't think he claims to not be a dog person. But he has a cat right and not a dog and that's it.

I get the people have cats but to not be a cat person and only cat is weird to me much in the same way that that habit of chewing on pins is weird to me for just speaking which he just completed a four day marathon needed for football games in four days. So Josh is going to check in with us he's at the airport. I believe BWI the Baltimore-Washington International Airport.

He was trying to pick out a snack. He's going to join us by phone prior to departing and coming back to North Carolina to to describe he was there at Buck's Panthers on Thursday as media with UNC on Friday as media went to the East Carolina Navy game as I believe, just a fan. In both of these cases because then he went to the Baltimore Ravens game in which Lamar Jackson cemented his place is that the greatest football player to ever live.

Is it safe to say guys if not I'm going to call them that today, at least for yesterday. Call him that today is the step he's the September VP of the NFL right. He's been phenomenal to this point. So Josh got to see that live and in person were to talk to him a little bit later this hour about all that fun stuff.

But as promised, the good and the bad that happened in the NFL yesterday we talked about the injuries let's let's dig in on those just a little bit more right Drew breeze injured his hand. Donald comes in full head of steam just backhands together for it to be Aaron Donald charging you drew breeze got away. He was, he got away just fine as far as as I'm concerned, if I am his his his coaches. In that scenario, but so it has ligament damage in his hand, required surgery. He's said to be out for up to six weeks at the corner. According to Ian Rappaport in this guys is inserted. Aaron is now set down. This is a manageable six games that drew breezes get amiss for the New Orleans Saints there at Seattle.

Then they host the Cowboys looked really good yesterday and they host the Tampa Bay Buccaneers worst team in the division there at Jacksonville at Chicago and then they host the Cardinals we get three home three away during this stretch.

I think at Seattle's always tough the Cowboys are to be a tough out.

Other than that to me there all winnable and winter star quarterback is hurt all you really have to do is survive rights of drew breeze out for six weeks. If the Saints go I mean three and three in that stretch their funding and bad news or bad news for you Panthers fans as they get a bye week after those six breezes not only can be back.

He's can be back with a bye week to prepare and he's back for both Panthers games just your luck. I don't know from the procedure resolve the season. Under this at six weeks, but I would have to I would have to think that okay Cesar for splitter say six weeks right so it will be what week eight and he said they got a bye week eight works out if it is exactly 6 weeks for recovery for drew breeze works out beautifully for them because they got six games that he'll miss.

Then a bye week then his first day back from the picture him coming back and being able to do. Drew breeze things because it's a formula. Owners throw. So like, even if he is able to come back. It's like 'same velocities was to use or lose will that already before the farm getting to feel you know what I mean with with with little guys your idle hands just trying to say. But that might think with really both drew breeze and an office burger think the big question now comes up with them come back because big Ben was starting to retire in a couple years ago I was a fair question with Roethlisberger will get to hear in a second because I want to ask the ultimate question, which injury here is the bigger hit to their team and again breeze out six weeks, followed by the off week.

He's can it be there for both games against the Panthers and the Falcons and in the six games they might fare pretty well because it could be argued. They have the best backup quarterback in the NFL in Teddy Bridgewater is the highest paid so in theory he would be the most reliable Miami wanted him to be the starter but then again, that makes me question is, is it good because if Miami wanted to be the start of the lens is all part of the plan all part of the process process in Miami. I think Teddy Bridgewater's pretty good and could go for ensuing these next six games and if that's the case, especially because we don't know where the Panthers are the Falcons are capable just so Jekyll and Hyde hit or miss site.

I don't know from week to week what they're going to give you and and and of to think Tampa Bay is as bad as some people believe they are but I am writing them off is the worst team in the division yeah yeah I would agree with.

I think that that is caught.

Carolyn never plays well #games matter who they play those like it always Thursday night that no one plays well on Thursday night what it takes. It's going to take for the NFL to figure this out actually they're not figured out that they know they know good and well that Thursday night games are trash and Fleming TV deals with whether to justify the lightning delay. So like to have a stop and go and speaking of which, you trashy national TV games. Cannot wait. Week eight Steelers and Dolphins. No big Ben and well with the dolphins.

I think the answer your question, I think it hurts. I think breeze being out hurts more because honestly I don't know. I don't know why her body was picking the stealer so high in the preseason looking. I agree always think about what they've lost. James Connor got hurt over the weekend that Wells and Binns out Connor indefinitely.

Who knows, no more Antonio Brown. No more levy on ballot. I think a lot of people just sort of assumed because of the perceived bad attitudes from those guys with their bare their different situations both leading them out of Pittsburgh. A lot of people just wanted wanted to hope that there was gonna be addition by subtraction with those two. That's impossible. There's no way no way the Steelers were going to be worse and big Ben. I don't get it they will him like a eight meeting with them your meal I felt like he was going to get them to eight mate but like does looking at 13 the third defenses seems normal, like there's no one on their defense to consider. It's a totally normal to the bland normal to see Schuster is nice that you find now will throw its own millennium, and that they were. This is for sure the one and that's not really going all that well and I mean honestly what my thumbs. Never had a losing season as head coach of the Steelers, but this could be the year that it happens because I don't see the stealer team when in 16 games like that in the molecular plan for big Ben will actually think that reverse is likely been was excited to be out there, the same thing. People in central Camden, but it seems, disengage big Ben was looking like that to so said at one point UC was noteworthy in the last season to manage. Don't even know if I like football anymore right in so many words, it wasn't exactly that verbatim start saying that kind of stuff out loud. That's when the football player you are you mentally, checked out, so I think that's what was so easy for them to decide know what I'm going on around you trouble at all to come back now done for the seek out skill set I get that's been Roethlisberger will be replaced by Mason, Rudolph, who was a borderline first round prospect upon coming out now Bridgewater for the saints's had many more opportunities to prove himself. Rudolph could be okay and seems to sort of give them a shot of life we came in now with a backup mean there could be a number of factors. There when someone is inserted into the game. It's like you know okay Binns good to be back eventually.

We just need to make the best of this time for a guy like Rudolph. It's his opportunity.

That's her thing which is good to be the bigger hit to his team been Roethlisberger being out for the season or drew breeze being out for six weeks.

I still think the saints when the division even without breeze for weeks. I think they win the NFC South and I think big Ben. Even though I didn't expect as much out of the Steelers as I did the saints coming into this NFL season. I think that's the bigger hit it's for the entirety of the season. They might be just pretty bad. Now, but we like to even things out really to keep even kill realistic on this program within over the bad, the dolphins drew breeze big Ben talk about the good. On the other side there about filling in for Josh this is the drive for five or 609 20. Now back to the drive with Josh Graham for Josh on the drive sports is very very bad things happen in our old consumption use. You watched very bad football very bad things happen like injuries on the football field yesterday some really good stuff as well, including from a couple of quarterbacks that I really want to hone in it on here and and my understanding is, is Aaron you are a Kansas City Chiefs fan which, unless it happened within the last 12 months before those me a bit. Could you could do would you care to explain. So it will him from here born raisin with the okay knew that didn't have the Panthers until 95 right now is already watching football about sure the cheese at that time with the first team member watching play.

It was Joe Montana playing John airways Broncos and that new Smith Derek Thomas data in my squad and they lost even reggae on the know of, but something about a maroon is like a big out I think I knew by name, who Joe Montana was the 1102, quite really grasp who Joe Montana was there, but I think I knew the name Joe Montana in the fact that he was out for a bit was probably kinda cool when you come to the Panthers once the Panthers came for the Panthers but you know amount should jump Aaron it's really interesting that you mention Joe Montana because I think as were all well aware now it's 3:35 PM the next day, Patrick my homes had himself a day in the second quarter alone.

He went 12 for 17, 278 yards and four touchdown passes. I may just the Oakland Raiders through four in a single quarter slot if it's it's quite a few Aaron. I feel like I feel like Aaron is throwing darts at me because I stare you down and says the state is pretty funny.

But even with less context. I'm enjoying it.

Okay so this started in the summer on the run down the Saturday morning so that I hosted Aaron's part of panel where Bassler kept telling him all these teams have table pet homes now not be so easy as knuckle be 50 touchdowns in a matter of Aaron being right and being a fan. It's is a matter of you being just outright wrong pretty much yeah but I will be around.

I decided to see more. One year I need to make sure it's not a fluke, and then last week he comes out and goes for 400 yards and four touchdowns or whatever and then a RN in this yesterday. Does that nonsense in the second quarter and already in the car and I was in the carpet. We had part of the raters Broncos on our our our network here before flip it over and it was to nothing. Raters saw Mike hey John Green's got you guys plan hard she's finally found spies on plan now man I got a car for 10 minutes got back in the car and was like what what happened. The most dominant 10 minutes to NFL history is what happened. Touchdown passes in a singular quarter in the second quarter. Aaron I say it's interesting that you mention Joe Montana because Joe Montana like the legendary Joe Montana and Patrick my homes are tied with eight career games of four or more touchdown passes there to hide for their careers.

Joe Montana weighed 109 looking into anything said in his career Patrick my homes has played 1919 in 19 games. He tied a Joe Montana passing record, here I try to be nice and cordial call about it a bit until something about it. You will be somewhat respectful to Desmond Johnson while know how long it is not just my fandom. She's baleful on top a lot of bad quarterback play my counsel.

Bliss is slow 10 in a Chiefs uniform. By the way that's that's one of those right up there with like if you see a picture of it. You might because it was your your indoctrination writing a Chiefs failure by strangling this when I ~but it's a strange one. It is like golf, like a sword in the wizard uniform tornado wizard to the Florida bar of Jay's Jersey year are the jets for Mary Rice with the Seattle Seahawks for me. I caught a couple touchdowns that season that he played for them. I forgot he plays warm yet weird people when I bring this up. People will mention Jerry Rice as a writer and that's not even his weird mom had half a Cisco 49ers did that's I grew up. I hate 49ers because of Joe Montana and Jerry Reisman's got out the cowboy's man.

You as a kid growing up and we got the Panthers 95 I left the Cowboys had a home team and I've never look back, but good things this weekend. Quarterbacks plan good Dakota that Prescott is destroying everything he wasn't included in the two that I absolutely wanted to get to, but it's worth mentioning guy through two weeks, while negotiating a new contract with Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys has completed 82% of his passes. Yes unbelievable that they they look like they might be the best offense in the NFL, except for the Kansas City Chiefs who can help would be the best because Patrick homes.

The second quarterback I wanted to get to might be the greatest player in all history, not just saying what it's I doubt guys I dabble in hyperbole. Okay, a month earlier. It's a thing that happens but this young man is eight and one in his first nine starts as an NFL quarterback only 12 others have done that were better in their first nine starts at quarterback in the Super Bowl era and it's Lamar Jackson asked Jackson the pretty good good running back just for reference, the other guys that were drafted ahead of him in that 2018 NFL draft Baker Mayfield number one overall pick six and eight as a starter in the NFL. Josh Allen the only one besides Lamar actually with a winning record as a starter in the NFL is seven and six is a starter Sam. Donald is four and 10 Josh Rosen is three and 13 and it looks like the ravens got the steel of that draft their new credit to low Desmond here with that one came from Lamar's work. It was an overtime loss to the Kansas City Chiefs.

Everyone he's beaten everyone he has been tasked with beating other than the team that at this point what you really expect him to beat the bad.

I mean, not bad.

I'm confused as to why people are surprised that Lamar Jackson froze like they didn't see him at Louisville, the one Heisman would just him running around games is not.

This is not revisionist history because I said it at the time how you could you could be high on Josh Allen actually is turning out pretty pretty well how you could be high on him and not Lamar Jackson is was so confusing to me and I look at get what's been successful at quarterback in the NFL and what hasn't been successful are G3 came in and lit up this league. Prior to getting sniffed out and it was a Shanahan offense of scheme thing. More than anything and then he got hurt and it never really got a chance to recuperate. That career might think is another example. Like people. People say that you can you can and they wanted to to make this more of it are an issue for Lamar Jackson than it actually is because he's got a pretty good arm.

It's not that my homes but he's got a pretty good arm. He's a decent pastor at worst.

Mike Vick was terribly inaccurate but set the league on fire.

It's been done before in different ways and people just refuse to believe that it can and will be done in different ways. Going forward so that the Lamar Jackson stuff. He should change positions. All that nonsense. It just it never it never aligned with me. You know the thing that bothers me the most about what's happening with Baltimore anew.

They are basically running the same offense. The Carolinas run for the past for five years with cam Newton quarterbacks that Lamar Jackson, it's not all RPO it's not all smoke and mirrors kind of a mixture of all of that and it keeps you on your toes like you have to account for Lamar Jackson in the run game. You can't really stuff the box in his arm. We can throw it over top of you.

If you do that literally the form of the Carolinas used for the past five or six years, and for some reason that they have totally abandoned like the first two weeks of the season.

I'm hoping after seeing your Lamar Jackson and others have success with their formula that they go back to that for Arizona this week and get back to you know the ground and comes first. But what about evil 5 yard completions. The CMC hearing there.

Whatever back to what you do and it sound like Baltimore, figure out what to do or more vessels from watching panther film for the past couple and they acquired Barking room from the saints and there could not be a better fit yet.

Running back for Lamar Jackson also mean a variable with the Panthers dilemma. Lamar Jackson hasn't had to have his arm corrected with multiple surgeries over a few posts these early off-season silent mean, maybe they would like to get back to that with cam Newton.

He won MVP doing what you're talking about, but it could possibly be an issue that they just can't get there again.Josh Graham has been gallivanting the sports world over the past four days he hit four football games in four days, I believe, to his media into as a fan working to check in with him, I think, is at the airport, snacking on something before flying back from North Carolina, Josh Graham, a guest on his own show is either involved fill-in on the drive is where our lives Josh for time and 609 20 back on the drive there and thought you were Josh Graham halfway through the show is lying, parts we were talking with football and now I can't think of many people. Better to ask about matters of college football are guest Patterson of CBS sports joint is now Chip cover songs came up a little bit earlier talk about any money and I don't know if you are aware of this. In his later years he put out a covers EP which included when I am around by Green Day and I happen to love that cover you know I'm up on the pop punk guys so Green Day is like the mirror for me.

So to cover it and do it well is a high compliment. Do you have a favorite cover song.

I did put me in a really particular generation, but like on Napster gored cover of doggy dog you with improperly labeled at Jenna and he schooled me thought what doing a country cover of gin.

Actually, the gored, as I found out later in high school, but like me Napster like a jam band cover of gin and you is that point for me in middle school about the sweet spot Patterson is with this. I remember it like what you downloaded from Kazaa or LimeWire Napster in that case, it always always irritated me that the mislabeled songs, but I got one with experience by a lot of people there are a lot of improperly get into the library, no doubt about it, and that's a very specific thing to have been perturbed by in formative years that you and I were were part of a group. It's going to get smaller as the year goes on that have experienced that. But aside for music appreciate you stopping in to talk college football with this tip also worth noting. Great stuff on college hoops and golf as well@cbssports.com. Also check out with Borton Simmons. The cover three podcasts that he does to its hunger below has more touchdown passes than in completions for the Alabama Crimson Tide right now at this juncture in the season. Is there any chance that he finishes the season with that statistical anomaly number one finger about to start getting a lot of copper for Alabama in terms of the opponent and got another week with the new kickoff. It Nick David look so upset about but I think it won't work in a 500 Alabama that going to be interesting is that I think they might have to score a lot so I think that means that Hulu can have more attempt at the big part of me thing you know is that I think you can have to check around the yard that Dr. Condit, who Alabama is the turn of phrase not been using to talk about the top of the FTP is that Alabama is big 12 Alabama and Georgia is old Alabama because he got the boa constrictor thing going with her bigger and stronger than most of their opponent don't make mistake made up like the industrial David is a thin complex like all of it coming full steam ahead Jake from the brilliant.

He doesn't make mistake. Perfect Alabama like we got for NFL wide receiver to get out there shucking around your and the storyline accountable and under the radar for now that Alabama continued to take injuries to key positions on defense work with young players into action. Players are talented but now we got a depth that you got a gap that you with an Alabama defendant that might have to be on the field a lot because a lot of the games that Alabama plays an organ to be 45 to 24 with the defense is out there for 80 snap get Dr. a lot of a plate 83 snack. They were exhausted. They got that this is on defense and they're getting tired and computer games against the likability would offer the chance Alabama can get got the better their greatest crank their passing game could also end up being a weakness in somebody close games lately year. I think it's an interesting observation considering the circumstances as they are for Alabama right I mean as they enforce or or assert themselves on the dynamic of the way a game breaks out over the years. It was slower game. You don't require as much depth to your point, but even in that they are becoming more of a team that needs to score more often you see jail and hurts transfer out.

He's the guy under center at Oklahoma and it is up of Heisman front runner mainly because whether it was unlocked by Lincoln Riley or was there with hurts all along.

He's not only this impressive runner, but he might be the best passing quarterback in college football right now.

To whom do we credit this is has hurts.

Had this in his wheelhouse.

The entire time. Better you credit Gail and her and tried to make that a good part of the conversation around Oklahoma.

We we saw a lot of Galen her by the third game of his freshman year he was a starter for that I could be wrong that he would hear and that first couple game and I think the third game of the year he was named a starter in the not freshman year he was most dangerous as a runner. He was serviceable as a pastor and he was that the fees offense.

The player of the year, not freshman year player. The end. Now the product the product great football talent young college athletes improve info with the hard work and the know all the resources in the world. When you think about what around and there you really committed himself to getting better and he and I put soap on it who wasn't there. He probably would've to continue to improve. Get better, become more dominant Alabama quarterback was a unique calendar as well and so and now it is going to be fun to watch as if these two team play in a semifinal. It might be the game of the year might be 52, 51, but it might be to game the year quarterback go back and forth versus a 2011 or 2012. Bama LSU matchup that ends up 9 to 8 or whatever. I'll take it any day of the fact that think about what Alabama elect to be like after you know if you get back like that game might be 5251 two Patterson CBSSports is with us on the drive closer to home alert you want to keep talking about the quarterback position. Friday night wake forest gets a score by a victory over North Carolina. They move on to three and no and I think they've sort of been, it's that it's is that phenomenon chip where I is a baseball guy use Garrett Anderson, formerly of the Angels. The outfielder is my example for the longest time he was the most underrated guy in major league baseball. So much so that when everyone starts to notice and and note that you are underrated and you are actually very good. You can come overrated. So it's not quite to that degree but wake forest sort of was that as a dark horse ACC pic I think within our state and our backyard is as Mike okay will maybe they'll be the second best team behind Clemson is obviously going to be first and foremost, but prior to the season, they had a quarterback decision to make that so far has turned out really well for them in that Jamie Newman is performing about as well as anybody in the ACC at the position and he took over the job from Sam Hartman who started more games a season ago, our guy Brian Geisinger of ACC sports.com and the ACC sports Journal offered this comparison to me a little bit earlier today and I'm I'm curious as to know your thoughts on it. He said he sees a lot of Jacoby reset in Jamie Newman.

Justin is the way his physique sort of the way he yeah that one run words rumbled into the end zone and I don't know that people were aware of how how thick and capable in those ways. Jamie Newman was prior to seeing him break out in this big way for the DX. Do you see that it all the Jacoby reset comparison player, I'm not good at that. I don't probably one thing that might've limited me and found that sometimes my NFL draft talk is that I can come up with a player, I really I can tell you he was in college I can tell you what I thought my own eyes.

And what I know, but I'm I got no idea how we fit into the modern NFL that we all figure out real good luck.

I famously have road for and caked up for players at the continue to disappoint me. For example, in fantasy, like in college. Total soccer centric mindset all the way there would not be in Jamie Newman is an he's got a great command of all the different for the inner workings of that often and really built for the though that from the run in decision-making from being able to recognize when you got a hot route when when faith or rat has that one matchup a joke talked about the working to take advantage of because of the differential.

I think that historic total command presence out there allow Lakeport go fat and because Lakeport moving fast. They really stressing opposing defenses might be bigger. I like people that they might have a five disadvantage again across the board, but because the backpedal and the whole time, hanging on for dear life because of the tempo and we cover quarterback is better at being able to move that offense without having to huddle with. I have been too much, looking at the top line that can be the one that can unlock the full potential link for one of the 10 Teams in the country. Three weeks and that is the way that they stress opponent and the couple quarterback that is as important as any physical trait that you got and that's a credit to Dave Clawson because traditionally speaking, anyway, that is a flaw in their recruiting because of the academic requirements. A lot of the times they can't have the physical specimens on either side of the ball that that that a lot of their ACC counterparts have two Patterson appreciated as always. And of course that the Napster note that's great that's that's excellent stuff on the day that were trying to remember any money and Rick O'Casey again. But if you you had Napster songs were improperly labeled arts appreciate the time and be well. I'm going well it's two Patterson of CBSSports.com live with just grand.

Six 920 with you on the drive on the middle of traveling from Baltimore and four days including things with Cardinals and ravens yesterday to see great performance out of ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson as we have discussed, as well as the Panthers who we saw earlier in the weekend. On Thursday night. Get there second loss of the season at the hands of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and we are privileged to be joined by Jim silky of the Panthers radio network. Now Jim what's going on and how are you good I'm excellent and appreciative of your time.

As always, before we get into football man. I happen to notice via your twitter your connection as indirect as it might be to Rick okay sick of the cores that we lost over the weekend. Tell us about that. Well first of all yeah I've heard both. I think I said you consider your natural your college is pretty good size lab stated Bowling Green State University in Ohio. The atypical Catholic couple decades over the day he went to school at Bowling Green State dorms all where I stayed for two years the original Catholic that when he was Bowling Green University. I Kevin Bacon loose connection to Greco Catholic of the cars and fascinating that's that's pretty cool actually. I would especially think so. As a college age guy to be able to say that you are in the same dorm room as the lead man. The front man for the cars so I waited popular at that time right now. We lost on most people, but at that moment there on the radio at all times for certain we discovered today just by feedback from some listeners and the guys in the studio here that the cars have some more recognizable tunes that then I think most people realize today that did it's songs that you know but you just didn't realize it was the cars so appreciate you sharing that Jim silky radio analyst for the Panthers radio network is with us. It's the ninth time in the Panthers history that they started with consecutive home losses Jim the best they've ever done. Following that up is seven and nine, 2007 was the last time that happened in the coming weeks, including at the Cardinals on Sunday.

What's can indicate most whether or not this Panthers team is a contender and maybe better than that. Seven and nine, Mark okay They gotta get something going lately. Well this week healthy Thursday how the Buccaneers of 3.2 yards a carry. You really think of a time of the authentically there Was not the percent, which is not good and that we all know is not running at all, which is not good that you people, one Is not nearly the quarterback when you do a one-dimensional pocket but is until the greatest running quarterback in the NFL at the printed weapon did not use to which whatever and then secondly it takes away from Chris McCaffrey effectiveness without the early aleck and wasn't wanting that unlike week one. I can't focus on number 22 in that lesson, McCaffrey spoke to me Is ready to go to receivers at three guys around 90.the receivers of vital role in the water so you guys are capable of making plate to make the throw data on One of the outgoing and a lot of the thing that really throttle back the office is health and Jim's Okies with this Panthers radio network.

I wonder and and I would ask you to just use your best guess what percentage of of the changed game plan when it comes to cam is is do you think health related or is it maybe just trying to sustain some success as he's getting up there in years. Look throughout his career.

He's taking a ton of hits and maybe the Panthers are just trying to change the effects of that and have them get it less often. I mean how how would you assume that that is being broken down to help that it actually like a rookie, like the vegan thing but it's not an issue. It helped bring. So it seems like at least some amount of planning to preserve him with a rookie backup quarterback another quarterback play one game and delete basically and Kyle Allen so that I will clear that the not right. He probably would you like the point that he had a plan to work.

But what if we can win while reducing some risk in some load on cam out of the gate initially and think that Mina Ramsey was a three point game right and we all thought the Buccaneers of the yard touchdown so that you like. If Miami was 102 to generate you with something to write you… Family accounts the same as Miami Dolphins record does not want to one 110 So they got a get together get away in Arizona: that's our story and I would read that I could play out that the drastic disparity there. Jim, of course, make reference to the Miami Dolphins is that the Panthers that they're not just outright trying to lose the hope I would. Jim, are you concerned at all and I know there was less of it in in week two on Thursday. Then there was especially off the short week but coming out week 129 touches for Christian McCaffrey was on the field for 67 of the 67 offense of snaps at the Panthers took is that a workload that's concerning to you and all or is is is it sustainable in your eyes when it comes to CMC and I think you know you wouldn't do that every is capable of absolute unbelievable shape and didn't slow down or report first quarter now is also not December plate 1213 game so you don't want to know… Work long-term waken, something that would certainly be 2025 to the game of garbage that you got back like that throughout his coaching career that always that much if not more so, yeah, I think you can do it makes sense. You know what you guys are capable of sharing the workload one make you less predictable, more efficient at compiling a line yard so you think you know you want to like him protect him from you.you early physically his career and then secondly, you have to not like. Comforters barely got Samuel DJ Moore's mother left as they go about hundred yard catch game when needed. So there are other weapon I want to order back in the quarterback and do those option plays. He is always that that was meant to 29 touches in week one, just 18 on Thursday. That was again on a short week but also just in an attempt to spread it out. It seemed like to me and if everybody else can contribute. It takes a little more off Christians plate and I mean you know if if you you if you are more effective with less attempts.

It makes the offense more deceptive, as you've alluded to so big story today and lasting for you Jim before we let you go on and you got something else to get to hear the Saints quarterback to breeze ligament issue in his hand near his thumb on his throwing hand surgery today out up to six weeks. We sort of been batting around their opponents throughout that stretch that got three away games three home games the toughest as I see it would be there next to at Seattle and they host the Dallas Cowboys with looked really good.

To this point in the season.

How do you think this affects the NFC South landscape because if everything goes well and according to plan, breeze, if he's back. It's only the six weeks they'll have a bye week and then he's their quarterback for the saints that is for both of the matchups against the Carolina Panthers in both of their games home and away against the Atlanta Falcons. Does this drastically change things in the NFC South absolutely leveling the playing the past couple years. Of course, Super Bowl quality game and it without him. Bridgewater is drop-down to come help you with a bigger workload.

If they decide to go that direction with them. So yeah, I figured that you would like to go back to Maryland receivers. It all begins with the breeze back there plate.about six weeks of adhering to bring that land. Obviously the quality win against Philadelphia As a branch of a closet like the Rams are confident Of a win over Carolina at least, whatever that is scary and so to me that could be one where nine and seven like that could win the boys out with you makes things certainly a lot more interesting saints taken a step back, maybe leveling it right.

There is a mention with Carolina and Atlanta who certainly capable as we saw against the Eagles right Jim's Okies of the Panthers radio network appreciate the time as always have fun at West this week right there you got it. That's Jim soaking