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I have okay finally help us make sense of a buccaneer cam Newton reactivated what was in a practice today is day today for Sunday against the Cardinals Sunday and Ronald Rivera literally just got finished addressing the media minutes ago so will bring you some of his comments in just a few minutes.

A lot of panthers need to not in the week three or four days right now. This is no time for let's wait and see on Kyle Allen.

There's too much talent on this roster for that and this game on Sunday means too much this season can still be rescued for the Carolina Panthers drew brace these out for six weeks.

The schedule is relatively favorable even though four of your next five games are a way for Bank of America Stadium who saying you can't beat the Arizona Cardinals or Gardner Minshew and the Jacksonville Jaguars or Tampa Bay on a neutral field in London. Nobody. So whether it's cam Newton or veteran quarterback you bring in.

I don't know like Colin Or Nick.

I feel like the pampers of a good shot at winning. If you have solid quarterback play under center. I think Carolina needs to pull the trigger on Colin I'm not saying that to be controversial. I'm only talking about football here. It's the same thing we did last year when the Panthers signed or agreed looking at it from a football perspective, it made sense for Carolina and that was justified when Carolina extended air agreed to a three-year contract during the off-season, Colin Or Nick is better than any quarterback the Panthers have on their roster not named cam Newton calling Her neck is better than any other free-agent quarterback who's out there.

He's mobile. He can run the system I get. He's been out of the game. The last two years, but look at the quarterbacks across the NFL right now. There were 46 backup quarterbacks on rosters at the beginning of the season.

20 of those quarterbacks 20 of 46 never started again. Half of those never have thrown an NFL pass and are good to try and tell me Colin Or Nick can't play because been out of it for two years garbage Carolina can beat Arizona on Sunday with conflict in there or cam Newton even if the 75, 80%, they will not beat them with Kyle Allen. I watched Arizona in person on Sunday I was at enmity and enmity bank Stadium. I saw Lamar Jackson put up the great numbers by the way Lamar Jackson did something no other quarterback is ever done in the regular season and that's pass for 250 yards and rush for 150 yards in the same game. Do you know why I note regular season. The only other time it's been done in the history of the sport was by Colin Or Nick in a postseason game.

Colin Murray's good. I was impressed by Arizona. Carolina's gonna lose that game if Kyle Islands playing quarterback Colin would give you a chance if you put them into the lineup so Joe person. I think this is what the sound is of this is literally just minutes ago asked Ron Rivera if they would consider signing a veteran quarterback for any length of time which you will consider.

I don't think so. I think the guys that we have here. We brought him here for a specific purpose and has to develop a train and have them ready to go for a situation like this and that's why there, how long was that Paul's husband Johnson is the producer of this program is also taking your calls 336-777-1600 would you be okay with the Carolina Panthers signing, Or Nick. This minutes 777-1600 on Twitter at sports on dry. I just want to hear it one more time how long it took Ron Rivera to say no to that question. You were out for any length of time which you will consider supply agreements as I don't think so about 3 1/2 Mississippi. He pondered he pondered for a little bit.

Not only would it only what I welcome Colin And would welcome arms. It almost makes too much sense to have him. Can you imagine run run play option with him and Chris McCaffrey like how I would defenses even defend well they would defend it the same way the defendant cam Newton last year he was. I'm not saying it's good to be unstoppable. I'm saying it's better than Kyle Allen not to say defenses are going to struggle to stop Colin Riddick led often. I'm saying Carolina has better options available to them.

Right now, but somebody who's played one career game against the team that actively wasn't trying to win that football game. I was a better option than Kyle Allen. Would you say that based off of our previous history with sun and air agreed that the papers are probably the lead team that would probably be able to sign: Nick at this point considering other teams of past and by the past two years. I think Carolina has a better chance of signing and for that reason, but we have to be honest about this. Okay David Tepper signed off on Eric Reed being picked up Eric Reed knelt alongside Colin He certainly was a controversial player but let's not act like it's the same thing. Signing Colin Or Nick would be the biggest headline not just in sports across the United States. If the Carolina Panthers signed. If that happened, happened with Eric Reed. It was talked about and maybe made some of the new shows if the Carolina Panthers sign Or Nick, you're all of a sudden going to be a part of the president's comments every single week every single opportunity.

You're all of a sudden going to be watched by people who aren't generally watching football. Just trying to see the sky slip up. That isn't happening with the strong safety it would happen with Colin So does David Tepper care about that.

That remains to be seen. But let's not act like it's the same thing. Signing Eric Reed versus sign; I do think this public opinion has shifted on Her neck in the last few years And it was not well received in the first year that he was demonstrating during the national anthem wasn't well received at all, but then it completely flipped because I think Colin Silence and him operating from the shadows earned him respect and sums mine, including mine. I can say for certain. A certain Colin His objectives were your that his intentions were pure at the start I thought we couldn't say for certain.

He wasn't trying to seek spotlight and to to be a capitalist in some senses while also exploiting a movement I couldn't say that with absolute certainty of the time but when the guy doesn't do any TV, radio, or print interviews for nearly 3 years. I don't think you can allege that somebody who is seeking out attention.

It is somebody whether you agree with this because were not was willing to sacrifice his living based on a moral belief a moral objection to something he saw going on in his world. Now, if you agree with what he has said that's great.

If you disagree with it, that's fine too but if we take away police brutality and what he is protesting her was protesting at the start and just make it okay this is somebody who believes in something morally so strongly he's willing to be blackballed and sacrifice his profession as a result. Maybe you look at him a little bit differently. I certainly respect that even if I don't agree with almost everything he says will people have to people have to remember how this all started coming out lost them in the narrative of how this all began. He was sitting down at the back of the sidelines during the national anthem of a preseason game and a camera caught him sitting down like he never went out looking for camera to the protest in front of.I never really got the vibe that it was all about him, and then even after that meet the last big check that he got from 49ers 15 million or whatever he gave it all away to charities and thing like that so I feel like it's flipped without rehashing a lot of that stuff Nike saw an opportunity to make this guy a spokesman for them and it was quite lucrative. At first we thought maybe Nike made a mistake. They did not and making Colin Or Nick, a spokesman for them on Twitter at sports of dryad the dry broadcast live in the Law offices of Timothy D. Wellborn studios learn about all the waste and wellbore can help you online@timwellborn.com. You'll know when you need us. That's not the only news involving quarterbacks today.

Yesterday it was Drew breeze out for six weeks with the phone Ben Roethlisberger out for the rest of the season in Pittsburgh the day after Monday Night Football we learn Trevor Simeon he's injured going to miss the rest of the season, which means former Washington State quarterback Luke Faulk you're up for the New York Jets since you got a quarterback with mono, who was drafted in the top five in his backup was started in Denver last year out for the rest of the season, it gets easy, though for the Jets. You just got the New England Patriots this week so there you have it. Eli Manning benched in favor of Daniel Jones a moment that this show is been waiting for for a long time. We have a direct line to the New York Giants locker room where we heard the exchange. The first exchange between Eli Manning and Daniel Jones. After the news broke that Daniel Jones would be a giant starting quarterback is that sound I guess will come. The movie started back towards the light.

Nosedive heartily undated zone away about blow your mind actually planned her to say that you yeah they said there was trade me at the Pacific was put your well I am sitting on the bench get the same locker my helmet and my jersey the Wilson confetti confetti in my pocket. I walk around with it now, white notice day for ever and I walked in this morning and they were like this what no one would let you movie star quarterback New York thing though. I didn't know you like this, music party handle man with man you ever go to the basketball game.

I was a big bass bouquets of fair Mall balder Co. if this pathologist can't keep myself watching the dorm room all the time you learn in place. Well, congratulations on starting job.

Congratulations on a good career. Eli play very well think about you all play with no faith, you got to lowering man that I'm good to try and do this please.

As Eli Manning well hey guys got media you know Philippe, but let's see how I do okay as a media member can both Wake Forest the good and the ACC also be good was awful man conflict prone interceptions. Again, what were you doing like you little wolf into it can both Wake Forest be good and the ACC be good. That's next on the drive to Coos Bay, this is Todd 609. 20. Now back to the drive Josh Graham when lords pay writers Les Johnson Conor O'Neill to deal with. I have a question for you guys that get your take on because in my view. I think in life in sports, we can hold multiple truths with things. The question has been posed by national media and some locally looking at it. Can the ACC be a strong league with Virginia and Wake Forest making up two of the top three teams in football and a season like it seems like it is right now, Virginia ranked in the top 25 Wake Forest earning boats their undefeated at the moment beating North Carolina this past week and a nonconference game for travertine coming up against Boston College in two weeks. I feel this is my viewpoint on it that Wake Forest and Virginia can be respectable top 25 programs and could be top five teams in the league and the league still be strong but with that being said, Justin, this given year, and this given circumstance wake and Virginia are top three teams in the league no doubt, but this is not a strong year for the ACC. I can't pick five teams that I know right now that are good so I think it is a down year for the ACC but wake Amber, did you still deserve respect. How do you guys counterbalance that I just think it's early.

Josh's three games in.

I'm not sure once again I'm sure we'll get to see better performances out of Boston College, North Carolina state Virginia Tech for sure in Syracuse for sure those will probably be really good teams in a month or two of right now that they're not looking all that great. I don't expect we'll see.

Good for bottle removal and I don't expect we'll see really good football out of probably do Georgia Tech is another one that will be down at the bottom to go size that spots two through 11 in the conference will probably end up being pretty good football team.

I just don't think were seeing all that right now I have some faith in Miami.

I do, I mean you have all that talent on defense and continuity with Manny Diaz returning I watch them when they were in North Carolina and I like some things I saw from Sharon Williams.

I'm still a believer in Syracuse just with all the talent on the roster, but Florida State North Carolina state what I'm seeing right now I I'm not going to buy it and I don't think there's another league that you can look at right now and not pick at least four teams that you know are good at the moment it's it's the fleets it's a down year, but that doesn't have to mean the wake and Virginia are not good teams success along part of of what NC State has been the last two years and what Syracuse was last year. One hat doesn't have to go hand-in-hand with the other.

This is where I buy SEC bias.

The only spot I buy I am not the guy is there that the reason why they talk about the SEC so much on TV is because of bias. This is happening. Back when the SEC was winning six or seven straight national championship so I don't believe if the ACC was winning six or seven straight they'd still be spending time talking all this SEC nonsense, but last year, Kentucky has a great year and are finished in the top 10 most people just applaud Mark stoops in Kentucky and don't make this about the SEC potentially have a down year because LSU is meeting expectations or Florida isn't, but with the ACC and it Syracuse in the top 15 and its Virginia and Wake Forest knocking on the door. It it it has to define the conference and when we don't see it.

Other spots we don't see it with Miami and Florida State Virginia Tech down. People were laughing at the Atlantic Coast conference and not getting credit to Syracuse last year. Right now Virginia and Wake Forest and and it's a it's a disservice to their programs. It is what it is, is the answer you get from Dave Clawson and bronco Mendenhall, but it's it's knocking to make an effect on the players talking to me meant Virginia players go out and play that much harder against Old Dominion River against Duke are against Carolina later in their coastal division games green doesn't make a difference to them. That is because the talk about that is the answer.

We actually got from Dave Clawson earlier today. This is from his press conference whether we received votes in whatever I have no control over that we control the product on the field. I think if you watch us. The first three games of product on the field right now is pretty good and our job is to sustain it and make it better. And if we do that people still don't think ACC is good. While I know we can do.

I asked the question several that's a question I have for you guys media driven more than anything else. I feel like I'm got to ensue.

Lander taking crazy pills right now because I don't understand how there can be such stark differences verse of how a league is perceived in the ACC versus the SEC when we saw very similar circumstances play out for the SEC and nobody cry Wolf, or in other words, cry out and say that the SEC's how to get down here. Here's more from Dave Clawson said his perception takes a long time to change, so maybe 50 years and I'm 6 feet under three and Omega ranked in the middle somewhere.

I'll be smiling. Yes, I know why Dave wants her grandma. Honestly, I just complimented him on how optimistic it is universal to me for that last year he told us constantly that is the glass half-full guy. I guess I was just himself trying to convince himself that amid what 12 or 13 season-ending injuries is the optimistic, though I had to talk about his demise and death is be somewhere you didn't even say to me in one place of the other really good type of bomber was a weird shift there and you gotta believe.

I know you have to say the thing yet we don't pay attention to it. None of that stuff. I call hogwash across everything. It's okay to want recognition for something you feel you've earned and to suggest Wake Forest it when it means something to them to get a top 25 ranking when it hasn't happened in a decade, 2000 that's that's absurd. It's not plausible. I don't buy it would matter to the players now that doesn't mean that they don't care about the coaches and and and the recognition they get from them but it would just feel good to get national recognition and Dave Clawson has to want that just as much as anybody that's just human nature and the fans are deftly seeking that as well. You can see that on twitter with with their the way they responded to what they perceived as disrespect from the unionists a couple of UNC players in the way they really respond to only getting 14 votes in the AP poll and being just outside the top 25.

I love this right before Connor O'Neill walked in here to follow him on Twitter Seo in LR is how you spell Connor Connor O'Neill W SJ on Twitter Les Johnson is on twitter at Les_John you post a picture and you've had quite the ongoing battle with Wake Forest parking. You post the pictures say essentially that big bear threatening to put a boot on your caller recovering wake Athletics over there.

Do I have this right. This is an ongoing situation.

I think given you a platform to help so I think third years that if that have been wound since I came into the studio and things might've already been resolved. So I want to say anything negative after welcome out on something that helps you after after things already. I think possibly been cleared up with this.

I'm not going to put my foot back in my mouth. No, this is it something that I got ticketed twice in the first two weeks of the season on Wednesday mornings when we go for post practice interviews and I know I see a fine from Wake Forest University and it's like a table than I can give me my diploma deal actually a former weight player that I covered when he was in high school edition elements Ali Wilmot older brother of John LaMotte, the Boston College middle linebacker Simeon just responded to my tweet of the second ticket and said your messing with forces that you do not understand.

So I had an inkling that that it might come to this so last week I put a note on my dashboard thing like I'm not a student you know I am.

I cover weight for sports for the Winston-Salem Journal and here's a copy of my visit.

Like, here's proof and and put a business card during the – but visitor parking lot and the kicker is all three times. Connor's been ticketed.

I've been probably less than 100 feet away from his thinking I was to bring that up as much is this funny that I watch the wire sit bombing I don't answer I'm not a snitch. I'm from Baltimore suburb. I'm not a snitch so I wasn't to go there to get it is funny gets the left about it, but I'm glad you're the one that outed yourself not right right I was at my dads alma mater of Towson speaking to Marilyn yesterday and he told me back when he was in school like he was a commuter he the parking spaces were taken up so quickly, he would park right next to the building at Klassen and just take chances are well that'll ticket me or whatever and he collected. I think up to about $550 worth of parking tickets that my my grandfather had the payoff for things that I think the way so it was, yet these are university fees that better needed in order for me to graduate. Yeah, these university fees are to go to helping like the new house and center every year when really they might've went to the thousand center, but it's actually just paying off constant play to be on Chris Lee show tonight WXII it's awake so give them a little bit of love because I was on it last week and it was just me and Chris Lee Sue you guys are gonna thought the studio a little bit better with you.

Gotta bring the energy that you brought to the show last week. Great job Josh will think so much you find that on Facebook W XA I read Connor O'Neill's work in the Winston-Salem Journal and read Les John at the Medica digest and you follow him on Twitter at Les_John Scott and also Connor O'Neill WSJ on Twitter felt special behavior every week Dez yesterday at Darren Vaught in here yesterday. EEG had a Monday show, but he didn't do. Let's get crazy. Do I have that right. That is correct.

So hotcakes that's only one week. We suspend journalistic integrity like these two guys that once every week we throw it away for 10 to 12 minutes we get reckless with opinions.

It is the radio equivalent to the jump to conclusions back from office space. We get crazy next on the drive. Talk about how this is a sport 609 20 now back to the drive Josh Graham. I do want to get this out of the way on the front and I'm strictly talking about what will appear, not politics don't do politics on the Carolina Panthers should pull the trigger on telling Doesn't mean I agree with everything he's ever said but in a league that started the year with 46 backup VAX on Ross, 20 of which never started an NFL game and half of those never attempted it NFL pass. You can't convince me that there are better options out there than what Colin Nick is even if he hasn't played the last two seasons, the panther should absolutely pull the trigger on him. The season could still be salvaged. Now that drew breezes out the next six weeks. The Panthers are just a game back in the South and they have a pretty favorable stretch that starts with Arizona on Sunday, a team that I saw in amity Bank Stadium in Baltimore in person on Sunday. I was impressed with what I saw but I would from Kyla Murray.

By the way, but I don't think the Panthers are winning any games with Kyle Allen at quarterback, or with Will Greer is just quite not ready yet. David Tepper, it's up for him to decide if the Panthers can pull the trigger on the sky if he would sign off on Eric read said that nobody came up to win and asked for his thoughts on To add perspective. Corey Smith was approached by Panthers coaches and by administration to see what he thought of Eric read at this time last year for Carolina decided to sign the safety turn out to be a great football signing.

So much so that Carolina extended him three years in the off-season. This is about football.

David Tepper already signed up on Eric read, but let's just acknowledge the obvious that it's different design That it is just to sign Eric read they maybe have no just as often read doing so more than Because Collins been out of the league. The last two years, but Predictors the polarizing name not read. He's the one that played quarterback. He's the one that started. He's the one that started this entire movement. He's the one that played in nearly won a Super Bowl with the San Francisco 49ers. Carolina wants to be committed to winning can't make that happen with Kyle Allen just can't and cam Newton he might play and I prefer 75, 80% camp with his re-aggravated foot injury over Allen and Greer but I'm not sure if I'd prefer that over Colin I think the Panthers should pull the trigger and sign. Now that's not the only thing that's going on.

Eli Manning was benched in favor of Daniel Jones, Jaelyn Ramsey is demanding a trade then saying publicly today that if he still on the team he'd like to face the Tennessee Titans on Sunday a lot of stuff going on in the NFL, but also did news and television HBO Max is getting the streaming rights to The Big Bang Theory Netflix likely paid more than $500 million to acquire Seinfeld starting at 2021 had me thinking about the best background TV shows of all time. Not the greatest shows ever. But yet to be a pretty good show to qualify as something that people wanted to turn the channel when it's just on in the background.

I think SBU low in order is the best background TV show ever. But Dez is telling me now that the phone lines are exploding with people who wanted on this topic. So let's go to Mike and Winston-Salem Michael and Winston-Salem. What's your pick for the best background TV show of all time. Michael, my date would be Martin and I would also say that the panther should try to get our G3 from the Raven.

He looked really good.

A lady with that I find with our G3. I defined Martin be in the choice to our G3. It would require you to trade for him though, you would have to give something up in order to get our G3 so you're asking yourself the question, if it is What you say for this hypotheticals if it is In our G3 and you're trying to evaluate which of the two to bring in. You're not just saying that our G3 is better than Colin Or Nick if you bring in our G3 with those two options are also say our G3 is that much better than Colin That you be willing to give something up in order to bring them in, bring him in when you want have to do so to acquire Since he's a free agent that is a really intriguing idea that agreement. Think of because I'm I'm thinking of it. I mean, you don't want the Panthers at the change what they do offensively and with Robert Griffin the third can continue to run the same offense and thinking about passer time. You have to trade some other way to get and the ravens.

They want to backup quarterback in place behind the more they can run that offense to so and they also understand the desperation the Panthers are in your you're probably getting having to give up a fourth-round replica third-round traffic to do that. I don't know if it's worth doing that when the alternative cost yet nothing extra to bring in considering he's a free agent George in Greensboro. What is your pick for background TV show the greatest background TV show of all time. George wow years is a very good choice. Thank you. George cannot think of Cheers it was in the back of my mind I just watch the series finale like two weeks ago on one who randomly one week weekday night when the favorite shows ever. I want to discuss this with David Glenn when he joins us in about five minutes. I think in the next few months were gonna learn who David Tepper is as an owner. I think he's made a ton of good calls. The last year and change in his first year as the owner of the Panthers, but unlike last year, I think action is absolutely required.

Here, when it was a year ago, you didn't have to move off Ron Rivera or Marty Hardy or make a decision on cam Newton at that moment, but with cam having just one more year left on his contract being 30 years old that turn 31 a decision. Decisions that have to be made to give this guy an extension and that something the owner signs off on the Panthers will make the playoffs a decision it's going to have to be made on Ron Rivera do you keep them or do you extend them further. Marty Hurley the same way. This is where were going to see what he's made up sign off on Eric read it's good to require more balls best way to put it for David Tepper to also pull the trigger on Colin Riddick to go see. I know he has brass testicles on his desk in his office, but but let's see just how what what the size of this cojones or if he's willing to go the extra step if it means up in the Panthers on the field Andrew in Greensboro has a pick for background TV show the greatest out there. Andrew, what would you nominate I would nominate him. The other favorite Simpsons character God, it would have to be who you controversial thick, but a good fit. Thank you.

I was like Santa's Little helper dock.

I was in middle school when The Simpsons began. I'm now 41 yeah, it's still it's still only the renewed for another three seasons. Tom Wrightson original law and order is the best background TV show. Yeah, I agree. I prefer SBU over the original law and order. Your agreeing with so many. This can only be one best for your you're just pandering to the person who says that this one's good and you like the show. Cheers I agree original law and order all good shows right you see you all can't be the greatest silicate you don't watch TV. That's the problem. I watched all the shows, not as much.

You admitted you don't like television. You don't watch it, not as much is I like movies like everything to you with the background TV show except for the bachelor hole, watching intently scene was going on. Connor did you finish bachelor in paradise.

I don't want bachelor paradise that you gave. I watched one episode it and hope you didn't ready for pilot Pete season pilot Pete.

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The question that Olympic that happen the way they described it in windmill windmill, of all places that just I'm so excited what's the ceiling for Wake Forest football this year will discuss that with David Glenn, in addition to cam Newton next live with Josh Graham, 620 in honor of a feeling that acquiring reaming right Big Bang theory X roping in Seinfeld started talking about the greatest background TV shows of all time and the phone lines since then have been flooding as has twitter feed board man Nata tweets in that 70s show should qualify for now be enjoyed by David Glenn early afternoon hose talk all things ACC. We have our weekly ACC rankings up@accsports.com and were in agreement with our top three of Clemson, Virginia and Wake Forest in that order representing the top three and what I'm interested in DG is this perception of the ACC that were seeing a lot of question the day nationally.

The ACC has Virginia and Wake Forest making up two of the top three teams and people think that just because they are the teams one in the top 25. The other knocking on the door. They are the ones that are at the top. That means the ACC isn't so strong.

What do you make of the perception of it of ACC football at the moment does have the digs and cavaliers at the very top line Clemson wall. It is always somebody after he rhetorically one of the last time that I ate the dude thought that one in Virginia and Wake Forest regret football teams in the league, and I actually have geeky enough that I went back into my archive tried to figure out the actual it would 1987 the first year that I covered with weird when UVA wake art the neck, who ate the football team.

Jan plotted that answer. By the way came before Florida State jointly much left Virginia Tech to Miami. Louisville is better. It has been a long time not used what people are saying Virginia Tech is down. Florida State is down Miami is down and the usual suspects are nowhere to be seen on that top tier I remind folks that it's only heading into week four as we speak. We don't know what UVA is going to do a get Notre Dame or other highly ranked teams on their schedule. We all know what weight going to do head-to-head against the clock.

When they face each other later this year. Even if you don't read all those high-profile games you can show that you belong, but it is a huge huge deal for the ACC talk about all it has to show that it had As a football league for a lot of reasons, including long-term TV, play grievance, and in 2016, the ACC not only produce the national champion constant, but for five other really good football in 2018. It was quiet and then maybe therapeutic in that big drop everybody else so far it Clemson and UVA and then wake knocking on the door and that looks a lot more like last year, then that vintage 2016 season, and that's not good news for the whole how many teens today.

Are you convinced are doing that you know right now are good football team. Three and the three we met should not DG that's crazy. I know what it but what about it.

We know Georgia Tech is not good loft at home yet we know that we know the club is great and we think it Virginia and wake are good for on the same page, which I think are power rankings reflect that we are would you be willing to bet your life that before he manipulated would automatically be number 13 whoever you think that I'm not bet my life on that leverages your fourth or fifth that I think Carolina there okay, whoever that is in anybody's mind they are not night and day better than whoever 12 or 13 point not Louisville is doing well enough under Scott Satterfield out of the gate to be a little bit scary. Virginia Tech is down, but have enough talent to be competitive. Florida State of course is the debacle but had plenty of talent. Not like they can't play. I know Miami got out of the gate open to good luck you pretending that the hurricanes are bad just because they started going with one play difference between them and the target you have like Miami way down bottom to yield whale or and still have to accept the fact it is spam how the road at The bad news to the right corner of the end. Guess what your ATP number 12, number four. How much of a mixed bag that middle tier is right but can't two things be true if it is true that the ACC isn't strong this year and you know right now just a few weeks and that there are only three teams that you know for sure are good football teams Wake Forest Virginia and and Clemson even if that's true, can also be true that there. The ACC is viewed differently than other conferences. When you have teams creep up into the top 25. That might not be the traditional teams can it be true.

Wake Forest and Virginia are both top 25 teams and the ACC in a given year. Actually is strong political matter, and here's the reality. And I think you know me well enough to know I believe the evidence supports the idea, and I can prove it. If we had a longer time in a bigger platform. I can prove to you the only league that can look down at the ate in the sport of football lately. The southeastern cop. I mean, whether you're talking about top down. The ACC has three elastic national championship in football with caulking running through an Florida State under Jimbo Fisher, warning another if you want talk about players in the NFL you want talk about bold participation you want to talk about head-to-head when you mix all of those things up yet BP is the king of college football. They have the top-tier team working and depth behind it. Most years, the ACC right now has only the Tigers on the top-tier but you know what does it really matter if the pack 12 has five or six teams in top 25.

When they're totally irrelevant, at least for now for the college football playoff picture and they been mostly irrelevant for the entirety of the college football playoff gear right in the Big Ten really better because they have may be teams in Michigan and with constant the APP had may be teams in Virginia and Wake Forest.

Ohio State might be the trailblazer for the Big Ten. But when you look around Oklahoma is representing the big 12. Ohio State is representing the Big Ten. The pack 12 has a lot of lot of interesting themes, but no dominating only the FEC that can say. Yet we have not only Alabama but we have George and we also have an interesting Auburn team. We also have an important that the list is one conference long and by that standard, the APP's shoulder to shoulder with everybody else. And because of some of their other recent accomplishment. There usually above the other league left out of the college football. The APP had never been left out those other league not name the FEC do get left out and and that's an important part of the conversation early afternoon host David Glenn with us on twitter at David Glenn show he's good to be in Greenville America this week and with the big tailgates or as the Pirates face William and Mary on Saturday but keeping it with Wake Forest. They beat North Carolina there three and though they got AP top 25 votes had been in the AP top 25. Since 2008 will likely be Elon this weekend. Boston College lost at home to Kansas last week and there up next and then you have three straight games that I cannot see the deacons not being favored and Florida State, Louisville and NC State. All will be playing at BB&T Field, followed by a game at Virginia Tech before you ultimately face the Clemson Tigers and Clemson. What do you think the ceiling is for Wake Forest billing is 11 and one and I'm not saying that would be evening. I'm not even saying that I would predict that it would take something just that you're not down from a miracle could be constant. Tigers said that other than that, every game is winnable. Now we all know the sport of football. You don't win every time your favorite and extract that you mentioned.

Who knows what Florida State looks like by that. Who knows what NC State look like by that Boston College is not great but it certainly capable wake margin for error.

I think Dave Kaufman would be the first to admit it, not you bought their legit like they love their starting quarterback and his backup with the way Jamie Newman claimed they love their running back depth, especially when Kate Carney get the bad faith ran and Scotty Washington making plated white veteran tackled in a league where others are wondering what the heck they have on the offense of line and we knew they were dominating defectively but looking back she was doing his thing up on Jeff Bernat is one of the better linebackers in this league right now they have two veteran corner store playing well I got a solid foundation to better foundation than most of what this league has right now all summer long.

What I put in the pages of the 854 Charlie and the file is article 3 months ago. Wake Forest had the chance for a special season and I believe it will turn out to be the best team in North Carolina this year in college football. I think through three weeks. People would have to agree that that assessment was right on target and no boring a slew of injuries. I think the deacons have a chance to have their most special season they won the ACC title in 2006 cam Newton reaggravated his foot. After the box loss on Thursday night we learned that today he is questionable for Sunday in Arizona and did not practice earlier today. What do you think will learn about David Tapper in the next three months. Now that it seems like with a roster that should be competitive. If you get decent quarterback play.

It seems like that action is necessary with cam Newton having just one more season left on his contract beyond this year Ron Rivera status Marty Ernie and maybe signing off potentially on Colin Predict being the quarterback of this team that something that's being discussed in the locker room as we speak.

What do you think we can learn about temper the next three months learnt with David Pepper and Kurt will all allow him to govern the Carolina Panthers is way, here's what I mean as a minority owner of the dealers.

He witnessed the ultimate patient you would not make her when things went poorly, but that franchise that had three head coaches over a period of it is the most stable franchise over that many decades in the history of the National Football League back in his blood that patient that not overreacting to the left bad thing is part of his NFL background.

Given his minority ownership of the dealers were David Pepper personality that enabled him to rise in the ranks to become $13 billion hedge fund manager's network is in that neighborhood, who when somebody did not give him a job or promotion that he wanted. He bought that guy former house for it down and build something that much more elaborate if David wanted to govern the Carolina Panthers that guy gotten adaptation and that guy want to know what he had 30-year-old cam Newton who is injured more as he gets older and had shown the ability to be a conflicted pocket pastor. The way those guys like breathing Brady how they get all the way to their late 30s and 40s and still produce while they become even better pocket. They get older.

Cam never really been that with the exception of MPP side. If I get help because I really be the threat thing right take meeting but that's what makes me great work and I try to evolve into the pocket pastor which started on the right path.

Last year under North Turner for the shoulder injury. David Pepper has defined the answers to those same, and even though cam has two years left on a deal. David Pepper need to figure out by the end of the how he's going to enter conversations with cam Newton is representative about the faith of the franchise. The franchise quarterback in the longer all and how David Pepper is going to manage that very important fork in the road. One of the most important I think in Carolina Panthers history DG before we let you go to be the greatest background TV show of all time. Not necessarily the best show there is but one that you could just parachute and on at any point and enjoy. It's not something you're seeking out but if it's on your not turning the channel got a good sign filled man. I know it's one of the greatest of all times, but all about a lot of things you need data you need, you need background I can't watch the Sopranos load and drop it and know what's going on. I can't even be that would like to print episode with Seinfeld. You know you're gonna laugh you know you're going to be entertained. Probably doesn't matter all that but what happened before DG very well done. Enjoy Greenville America this week and will talk soon.

Thank you my friend always thought that is Glenn, let's get more input on the subject in the way of background, TV shows at the fat Mike Mike's in Kernersville fat Mike give you the greatest background TV show of all time.

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Catch up with a little bit information and go figure out where you're at today as the night goes on. Thank you so much and yes we were to them one again with our pics this weekend making a six and three, six and three with the best bets through three weeks. Mike used to givenness the best advice out there money on it. We did apparently that Mike did to winning out there support center used to be export center used to be that show, but now we get all that on her cell phone now just the information so the highlights don't really do it as much for me. Baltimore Orioles baseball is excellent. I was has asked us background doesn't really matter what you do. But again, you're saying that something that you have to be into the background and to that Mike's defendants. I really watched SportsCenter Scott Van Pelt which is no late-night past 11 PM. In the past eight times I tried to watch it I end up waking up at three in the morning wondering what happened to fall asleep so it's a good submission, but the ones I like the most. I think SBU is the one I'm just gonna stick with because it's always on like you know if you just turn on the TV. There's going to be a law and order, as you episode on your TV screen. So I felt good for the point DG made to don't need any contacts what's happening to just end and there's jokes. It's not too dense and it's 30 minutes. I didn't realize that I probably should have one order special victims unit has been on for 20 seasons. It started in 1999.started 20 seasons here. Well that's what you think.

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