The Drive with Josh Graham - Wake Forest Fight Song

I have cam Newton didn't practice again the day, how is likely to start in Arizona Sunday again/there's-trophy winner Tyler Murray and Tyler have to view the current data can tell in his game as a red lag, don't you him the career should be a warning to Kyler Murray now not out here saying Kyler's going to get hurt.

I'm not making any kind of predictions that way.

But when you look at these two quarterbacks in the parallels that exist and also how much admiration Tyler has for camp. I was reading the Jordan Rodrigue story from the athletic earlier this morning and Kyler Murray was talking to Pampers reporters is how he described camp quote is one of my favorite quarterbacks. He's one of the best players to ever play that's all Kyler views camp and you could see and what he did in college and even to an early degree in the NFL. The influence cameras had on the young quarterback. But here's where the concern lies cam Newton. This is all cumulative with football.

The shoulder injury shoulder surgeries.

The foot injury. The rib deal. He was dealing with five other quarterbacks other than Tyler Murray in this decade have been taken.

Number one, to love those quarterbacks have been physically broken down, one of which submitted out of the sport altogether and Andrew luck, and he cited this rehab pain recovery process as being the result of why he decided to step away from the game's overall quality of life he felt was going to be hampered if he continued to play football. This is also the quarterback position were talking about two of the last five number one picks of the last decade who play the quarterback position physically deteriorated and look at what's happening in the week. Over the last 10, 15 years, every rule change seems to favor the quarterback Carson Palmer gets knocked out of the game against Pittsburgh in the playoffs because a defensive line then went low they change the rules where you can't go alone quarterbacks anymore trouble. Look how upset he was when he made public. He got fined 20 1K for essentially pushing a quarterback too late with both his hands except extended by quarterback BM Baker Mayfield. Even on Sunday Radley job former NC State will backed up a dilemma for the Broncos he fell on top of a quarterback that was the penalty falling on top of the quarterback even though he was pushed by the offense of lineman into said quarterback so they're doing everything they can to try and protect these quarterbacks. They been doing this for the last 15 years. It just hasn't worked.

Carson went missed essentially a year or G3. These are the top guys in the league. If you're a mobile quarterback, your odds of getting her just that much higher for Kyler. If you think you look small on television. I had a chance to watch him play in person Sunday afternoon against the ravens. I was impressed by it. I love watching, reply he had four or five throws against the ravens, terrific defense, terrific team that are unstoppable throws and he got the Cardinals back to a game with a coach. I don't think is a great and qualify code for an NFL job in a team that Steve Wilkes couldn't lead the victory last year somebody I felt was qualified under Ron Rivera taken over the Cardinals. Kyler Murray.

He's easily the smallest quarterback of the bunch. Six quarterbacks taken and included this decade. Number one cam Newton Andrew lock James Winston Jared Goff Baker Mayfield and Tyler. He's easily the smallest they're doing everything they can to protect the quarterback they been unable to do so. I'm convinced the game just football is not significantly safer with all these changes the last 15 years we've been told it is looking at concussion number going down and that's good, that's all. The NFL is trying to disconnect itself from CTE. I think it was the Mercury News in San Jose who unveiled the strategy that the NFL has lesser concussions means that we can distance ourselves from CTE even though brain experts are saying yeah concussions and brain trauma that is a direct cause of CTE but just because you don't have a concussion doesn't mean you can't get CTE still so that's the strategy moving forward to get to call into the weeds of that but at best.

I think it's marginal the game being safer over the last few decades, the rule changes just overall knowledge of how to deal with players mental health. That stuff is better but our players safer on the field.

As a result of these things. I'm not convinced of that. At worst, I think it could be more dangerous.

Players are bigger, faster and stronger than they've ever been before in the field isn't getting any small and in fact they're adding looking at potentially adding more games for these players to play and you want me to believe that this game is safer when I see the injuries that are being sustained by players who were supposed to be protected. Most Andrew luck lacerated spleen or to the kidney and then the ribs. He broke the stuff with his foot and ankle what cam Newton's dealt with. These are car accident injury, not ones that we associate normally with recreational games, basketball, it's usually soft tissue stop in football it's completely different and we accept it because that's the entertainment of it all. Here's what I find most interesting about Kyler Marino, Kyler hasn't out that none of those other five quarterbacks did baseball best the producer of the show Desmond Johnson to get your calls or 336-777-1600 your thoughts, and Kyler Murray. Cam Newton Carolina Panthers welcome right now at settlement 600 on Twitter at sport of Tryon. Do you know how much is signing bonus was worth with the Oakland Athletics. The guest for baseball drafted in the first round what that contract work. If I'm not mistaken was it was like six or $7,000,004.6 million signing bonus, but when it became clear he could be picked number one by the Arizona Cardinals. They started renegotiating and set in addition to that 4.6 we be willing to pay you 14 million more guaranteed. If you decide to play baseball, not football wow grow. Thank you Kobe what that's not as much as what he's making right now with Cardinals's contractors $23 million guaranteed and it's a four-year deal, but the lifespan for football is likely shorter than it is in baseball. I doubt this was a financial decision for Kyler. He admires guys like cam Newton sees that that's that's one of my favorite players. One of the best ever play. I think he wants to become a star and today you can't become a star in baseball. I think football now has a little bit of the perception or a little bit of what boxing did 4050 years ago the forbidden fruit.

The danger of it. People covet that and that's why we like watching it. It's the thing that's been in my career one day retroactively people going back and plucking your takes and if it doesn't jive with what the current sensibilities are gonna try hold you responsible for that cancel you. I like violence of my sports I like fighting in hockey I like to hit some football on pretty honest and upfront about it.

I think most people would agree. That's what attracts them to football, at least an element of it and I think the same applies to players if you want to be a star. You have a better shot doing that as a Heisman winning trophy or Heisman Trophy winning quarterback in the NFL versus playing baseball even though you might be safer and over time it might be more lucrative if who has the longer career in the NFL. Kyler Murray, cam Newton, I think I'd have to say cam because it's not over yet. This is your nine for cam and the average lifespan would suggest that cam Newton is going to last a little bit longer but I wish Kyler Murray the best. I like watching the guy play and I enjoyed watching that on Sunday. Things are clearly going very well in Charlotte cam again didn't practice today North Turner wanted say who's going to start on Sunday. Neither would Ron Rivera his press conference lasted about two minutes because guess what reporters wanted to talk about cam Newton and Rivera got sick of it and would travel neither decided to see you guys on the loss of their loss. So you have to wait and see what I thought about it and organize it under this talk about Arizona. I mean, I haven't really talked about Arizona. No so would be good to answer those kind of questions, cam cam, but the debts that you we will. I don't know anymore until tomorrow. Siliceous was talk about Arizona. If not, there's no reason for me to stand before you were you – you have some special place and held in that's hilarious.

He doesn't want to talk about cam it's a bad look for Rivera never tell reporters what to ask. He just doesn't want to lie. He knows more than what is leading on.

He says going to tell them tomorrow. Reporters going to ask about cam because guess what, I'm sorry one day to get Arizona on the road that's not really gonna move traffic. That's not what fans and players more interested to hear about, but it is a hilarious thing. Coaches never like to be and asked really about the other team usually like to avoid that goal has to be about their team. I want to worry about might seem. But things have gotten so please it is talking about the quarterback. Rivera is literally begging Arizona all week. Please just talk about the Cardinals. You have to keep asking me about the quarterback who should win Saturday, not Sunday. Saturday between North Carolina and Appalachian State and Chapel Hill Dahlia. Often when the group of five theme places the power five days it's viewed to be a bigger game for the T5. However, Appalachian State, North Carolina. I think this is a measuring stick game for both now North Carolina should win the game. They have more resources, more raw talent as a home game for them. They have a better head coach Mack Brown Hall of Famer Eli drink with this is just his third game is ever coached as an FBS head coach, North Carolina.

This is an opportunity for them to prove they can bounce back after they rallied cardiac heels rallied in all three of their games.

They just were able to complete the come back against Wake Forest on the road but publicly embarrassing comments from Miles door and North Carolina during the week, saying they were not really worried about the alignment Wake Forest and they probably should have an Miles door and San yet we overlook them essentially paraphrasing here because it was hard preparing for a team that didn't have quote football culture might not football culture. According to Miles door and they do but Appalachian state has quote championship culture and they've done so for the last handful of years now in FBS, so these players they're not going to be afraid. Zach Thomas second year starting at quarterback.

His first career start last year was in Happy Valley almost beat Penn State so you think is good to be worried about Keenan Stadium in that environment.

I don't think so were to be at the game Saturday 330. Look forward to catching North Carolina and Appalachian State Zach Thomas versus Sam how this is a matchup between two of the top three quarterbacks in the state of North Carolina right now, I'd still say Jamie Newman is number one. First and foremost the numbers back that up. Jamie went on the road spoiled Ryan Finley senior night in his first career start beat Daniel Jones top 10 draft pick out a Duke by 52 on his I guess senior day even though he wasn't a senior then you have them beating Sam how just last week, you gotta say Jamie Newman, probably the best quarterback in the state of North Carolina. Right now, but I think 213 Sam how and Zach Thomas Zach has proved more at this level than Sam has, so I probably give him the edge at the moment, but that's a matchup very excited to see Appalachian state has a lot back on defense but it's hard for you to be sold on Eli drink weights and as a coach at this point I met Sadie's struggled already. Yes it lost again bought that it played anybody Appalachian State should have handed it to Charlotte.

Charlotte a coach will Healy be there.

Try to turn things around, but mountaineers they were at 24, 25 point favorite when they face Charlotte two weeks ago there at home, and they allow 41 points to the 49ers is 5641 and they handed it to East Tennessee State, but the strip and point it looked Ted roof coming from NC State to be the defensive coordinator for upstate it's it's become clear that Eli drink which is not Scott Satterfield and that's just fine right now but it's worth recognizing that I'll admit the first time we saw coach drink on a graphic with his visor in the announcement might by Appalachian State that he was the coach I had to do a double take and make sure it wasn't Scott's out of the two look-alike and Rick Scott met a ton and we joked would drink about that when he's come on the show but Scott Satterfield is a reason why he was able to do something that is almost unprecedented in college football go from FCS or division one AA into FBS big time college football and continue to win and win a championship level. There are only a couple of programs that have been able to do that. Going from FCS to the FBS level.

Marshall sticks out UCF to a degree and what were watching with Apple. There's a reason why Louisville like them enough to make them and ACC head coach and were seeing less and less of that in college football. Usually it's top assistance at power five schools that get the head-coaching jobs very rarely. It's the group of five head coach getting the head-coaching job in a power five diversity but they saw something and sat and we've all seen it for the last 15 years or so, dating back to when he was a coordinator for Jerry Moore so it's not necessarily a slight to say Eli drink which is it Scott Satterfield right now but let's just call a spade a spade.

It hasn't been that impressive, you shouldn't give up 41 and home to Charlotte.

If you claim to have a good decent now you're going on the road and Chapel Hill, North Carolina should win this game. More raw talent more resources home game better at state. It's gonna be tough and it's the first time coach drinks could be a way from home is the head coach last time he was in that building was actually Larry Fedora's last game office coordinator at NC State. There was that fight on the field. I remember vividly right after it ended. You can hear the coaches drink included celebrating right after the women were in the booth right next to us going nuts. It's good to be an even tougher task to try and pull it off. This time around. The drive brought you in part by our friends at pie guys pizza and more. You can find them on twitter or online@pieguys.com terrific sponsor the show try to grand slam pizza you got bacon, got chicken Texas Pete base wonderful place to try tasty finals. He upbraided sugarcane by which we are big fan of your on the ship I got stuck document.

It was kind of run off Louisville Clemens rep. How about this right now. Just Instinet you know who he is no star linebacker Wake Forest, now that I mentioned is the largest single divorce. Michelle apologized just tonight. I'm sorry because Justin just tweeted the show saying that were tuned in the car right now may have and they killed him.

No, and they're happy about our couplets to Jamie Newman. The essay started to just it's true that all man for me, what the end of the segment. I want you to find the Wake Forest fights on and I want you to sing the song on the air by the end of the segment release read the words you need to apologized just as soon after not knowing his name put on Fridays. Been doing high school against Utah state with this.

The leader of the defense is a captain on how was not the target allow last week was less important just to stir. If you're not better find the Wake Forest fight song. I want you to sing or read the words at the end of the segment here or left is the best player on defense for like this Saturday. Yes, you are sure new hopefully that I've been playing Friday. I want the fight song that's that's what I want right now.

Unacceptable. There is Thursday night football. The night it is the AFC South on display with it feels like since the beginning of time since the beginning of these Thursday night games that jags tightens has been this day right like if you told me it's funny. Jags tightens have been played on Thursday night, every single week for the last 10 years I would've believed how often it seems like these two teams are the ones facing off against each other Thursday night football's garbage. I saw it last week in person and I don't really care much to watch this game usually, but this year I'm kind of rope Gardner Menchu, former East Carolina pirate before going to Washington state has the stash taken the lead by storm, even though he hasn't won a game yet. Jaelyn Ramsey is going to play the got teams asking the NFL. If Jaelyn Ramsey plays the night and then gets traded tomorrow.

Can we play on Sunday and the league says no it's already been going Sunday to Thursday maybe not have just three days of rest or these players less than three days. It's really just two days of rest. There are interesting elements to this game but I'm fascinated by the broad broadcast live. The law offices of Timothy D. Wellborn Studios is well learn about the waste him up on mom didn't need the fight song Darren Vaught to join us were to be Sharon with Darren in the second. This is for just it's your dad because he forgot his name and he says he listening to the show right now. Give me the fight song. I think I will Darren Antonio Brown story that's okay your lives with Josh Graham, 620 Sharon with Darren Vaught from the data going show and I just want to let everybody know. Hey homeland had about 95% of the Antonio Brown I know once sexual assault allegations get thrown in there. You might think it's all contaminated and we should be joking about any of it anymore and I agree the sexual assault stuff is all that funny, and neither really I think the way he forced himself out of Oakland. The final days there, but Hollywood Hogan mustache is still very funny. The cameo video where he's wishing somebody a happy anniversary wedding near a pool that is still very funny and worth laughing at him being sued by a chef because he hadn't paid them off after AB fed nine pro bowlers in Miami a few years ago week we can scoff at that to end this story from today. I think warrants being laughed at. Where a doctor now has filed a lawsuit in Pennsylvania claiming that AB owes him over $11,000 in unpaid unpaid fees. You might think. Will Josh okay is like the doctor or the the chef thing. Why is that so funny him just getting another lawsuit. This guy is just deteriorating. Not only did that news come out.

TMC obtained video because of course they did all of one of the appointments were AB is in this doctor's office and he's repeatedly Darren forwarding in this guys face as he is the PA exit.

This is for real. This is where we arrived with the AB story.

This isn't funny to you. This might not be the radio show for you.

Also, it might be you. That's the problem, not this story does give me just a little taste of this is usually why you have the doctor there, but no APA just letting it rip. Looking at the camera like is a child smiling about it taking video of this excellent question.

I have no idea. I believe is because if there's a if there's a duplicate surveillance camera at the doctor's office a that has me worried would be that just means AB knew it was there not know to look into the phone with the flu and shoot the same.

I think the same person is filming AB while he celebrating being released by the Oakland Raiders and him racing racing. Thank you for that him racing into the backyard celebrating the every part of his life is to be filmed even when he's fording in a doctors face in an office. Was he doing it when we think did he do it specifically for the camera or was he there he he he felt some pressure like you know I'm a lien in, there's actually there's actually multiple parts that you heard the first part. Let me hear the second word guys mouth is open to talking the guy is talking to AB and he doesn't mind. It's actually a little bit more pronounced. Let me hear the parts side-by-side, giving the first one real quick versus the second one that was unloaded on America. The first one sounds like you need to go check himself to the fact like that and I would let her sleep sounds accidental. Yeah, I would have been fed with the statement, yeah.

And of course we had the quotes from the doctor telling Sports Illustrated. It just seemed childish to me. I'm a doctor in this man's 40 get my face doctor is this what was AB getting checked. It really was just body fat.

Body fat.

I heard a reference to like bodybuilder and that's what he thinks was it was like a basic check of those sorts of things because if the fees if it's an issue for which she is very dependent on this guy or there might be a situation where is going to need to be dependent on this Dr. just makes it even worse is 36 777-1600 on Twitter at support tub triad. Darren is on Twitter at Darren Vaught. I do feel like this game has been on perennially for the last decade tightens jags on Thursday night, always Thursday always seems to happen might as well be tightens just except we have Gardner Menchu playing now for the Jaguars is taken the lead by storm.

He has the mustache. He has the suits nobody's criticizing him for his outfits even though his team is losing like cam Newton but I'll put that aside for now. It's about Gardner is also a former East Carolina quarterback before transferring to Washington state where every quarterback throws 4 million yards. Luke Falk is about to get the start for the New York Jets in the place of the injured Trevor, Simeon, who was in the place for the mono infected Sam Donald. There's a lot about Gardner Menchu seat. This is a Gardner Minshew fan radio show. That's what this is what you want to label what the driver Josh Graham is it's a Gardner Minshew fan show, and later somebody who's it's been a long successful career to dig into underground music. Darren, I feel that way about Gardner Minshew the way band goers or music seekers feel about man that I noticed first about this new youth fountain album that nobody else is excited about.

None are not like you fountain because nobody knows who they are the best. What I'm saying is it somebody you recognize and discovered then there in the national conversation they are some of you talked about a lot like I was on the Gardner Minshew tray two years ago when East Carolina was benching them in favor of former Duke quarterback Thomas Sark. I was saying that's wrong in the sky might transfer any way about Gardner Minshew that I fell about 10 comedy about 12 years ago while I was in on Kent County and then he became a massive deal with the robust top shelf.

A love that feeling like you find an album or something no one ever really talked about or listen to it going on your friend gets in the car you pop it in order, but the blow than mine.

What is this like R8. It's like how I was when I was tired of the song sugar were going down before anyone I knew had her to fall out boy, that's incredible. That's also very snobby for you to say it's it's road hey guys on the dog for a year to you all love right now that I'm you as a been jamming to the last week. Second year like a year ago fall out boy like bus ride took the whatever game that was I was I was on my head in my headphones I was listening to it that way back then. I did this, of course, I said this, were you on the Gardner Minshew train when he was at whatever shoe Co. and played in the championship game in season one of last chance you wasn't the championship game they were playing in it was it was like I driver it was East Mississippi going up against.

I forget what school you played in Mississippi but became a man he was just this is gunslinger that everybody liked he was. He was the teammate that everybody just loved Vera effect as if you can find the story involving his jockstrap and only his jockstrap earlier this week, I'd appreciate that Google Gardner Minshew's jockstrap. Yes, that's what I'm asking, what else are producers noted the drive brought to you in part by our friends at Twin Peaks.

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In addition to cold beer delicious food in the scenic views that their names by Boulevard and Winston-Salem twit is not where you can find Windex restaurant eats, drinks, scenic views, that is what it defined on the Gardner Minshew front your boy Minshew's he's got some weird tendencies. Weird yes to the eye of the purveyor so apparently in college and who knows how much longer before that get a pregame ritual where he basically stretches in the locker room and nothing but a jockstrap and apparently he is brought that within to the NFL.

So he's doing that right now which of the ritual is that stretching which are jockstrap don't meet everybody stretches if you're smart before strenuous physical activity, and if using is locker room then that's a safe space to only be wearing a jockstrap. I don't even see this is odd. That's of course the perfect way to punctuate that. I guess Jaguars tightens get excited for it. 820 deny buckle in. We got a lot of Sharon to do. That's what we've got here also.

We've seen in after three weeks of the college football season try to establish where teams belong here in the state of North Carolina. I'll give you my list of the top North Carolina college football teams next of the drive