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There is what I believe to be a blatant example 5 double that will get you. We have MVA run first reported by fan Rania of the athletic Zion Williams now confirms has undergone successful arthroscopic knee surgery addressing porn right lateral described as being the bride meant and that is going to miss an estimated 6 to 8 weeks. Pedro Morton aroused his initial report on Friday said that they ruled out serious ring that he was going to miss a few go about differentiating couple to you to what makes several asking on a general sense, like if you are texting a friend. I'll see you in a couple hours. How is that different than I'll see you in a few hours and how's that different to LC and then several hours. How do you distinguish as Catholic asking what's afternoon versus night because some would say 530 is in the evening and others would say that's in the afternoon masking the important questions are on the drive to to me couple means two or less. I may see you and to us hours couple is to make sense, but that is the case you is vague. Okay, how fake is food for 3 to 4 hours possible right, maybe 55 is several I'll see you in several minutes. Five minutes it seems a bit excessive. Five minutes still qualifies as you five would be a few, but when you get into six, seven, 6 to 8 I think is several weeks several 68 which also would not accurately depict what woe said in the tweet on Friday.

So while was wrong it was flat out with the wrong someone told him wrong info doesn't matter if you're a reporter you got a double down. You gotta trust your sources. You gotta also double check on your information.

You gotta make sure your sources check out what woe reported Friday was wrong and I said here that I was a little concerned emphasis on the little when the first boat report came out because they described it as right knee soreness precautionary to be just a few weeks weeks at 68 because that would qualify several.

As we discussed here two weeks. That's the way that they framed it. This is serious surgery and the pelicans do not want it to be framed that way because why else do you see in this press release that is literally four senators, three or four sentences. The routine, the bride meant arthroscopic knee surgery torn right lateral meniscus the routine to bride meant was performed by Dr. Jason folk with the assistance from team orthopedic surgeon Dr. Misty Saturday they had to know this Friday right because you don't you'll find this out when it is God to do the survey was the same day Zion looked great in preseason. These crushing people we don't know when this happens that'll everybody was just excited now nobody's gonna care about this game tomorrow night between the raptors and the pelicans.

Here's the other thing the report was actually less than the woe to put out the tweet Friday. Kristin Ludlow goes on to you until later that night and says that it they haven't even rolled them out for Tuesday.

They said contradicting woe. Jesus initial report. Ludlow was told something by the pelicans because again she's working the game over there and was told that he wasn't ruled out for Tuesday night. He was out for the Knicks game Friday night wasn't ruled out for Tuesday so what happened here so we have to assume one of two things.

The right either the pelicans or incompetent or pelicans know exactly what they're doing and one revealed to their fan base design wins will not be available for the first two months or there's 1/3 option here. Zion got hurt between Friday and now the third option more hurt more like Kurt might hurt himself more from Friday to today.

So yeah right right right options here. It's puzzling, so I'm going from a bit concerned to concerned not very concerned. Not this guy is again have a great career.

The skies got a shot when rookie of the year not going that far. I am concerned.

That's where I sit down because it is the same. The is the one that forced them out and cost Duke regular-season title in the ACC.

He goes down his shoe explodes Barack Obama's courtside issue broke. We all remember that same knee that he hurt their is the one that just got operated on these basement hurt three times in the past 12 months with me.

I don't know if you got hurt in some I don't know if that will no they were talking about condition right after the award circuit. That's what they were citing that it wasn't him injured. It was his conditioning was focused on their that is my primary concern was on, but it seems that Zion is conditioning was better leading into the preseason. That's right, we heard all along and he looked great in a couple is in the work correctly preseason. I was conditioning. Can you get in with a bum knee and also do we know what his height and weight is officially with the pelicans because they are tightening up on that more specific height measurement. Even though I still don't buy that Katie is six, 9 3/4 or 610 wherever they put in their weird about that. His whole career. I don't up. They said there gotta be more accurate with these things. I don't know if you lost any weight between finishing up at Duke where he was officially listed at 67 285 and now I don't know the answer to that, bought now I think there are reasonable people concerned legitimately concerned about Zion now. It's not just nonsense. It's not stuff you can easily dismiss it's right here in the forefront.

He set to get to national TV games in his first week in the MBA Tuesday night tomorrow night against the defending champion raptors is there putting up a banner and then they were set to be on national TV on Friday to and the MBAs losing out on that were losing out on Zion for 6 to 8 weeks. It really is a bummer, then BA NBA.com officially as I am with the 6 foot seven, 285 as of today shifting things the claims are. It doesn't seem right to me that Clemson gets knocked down a ranking from number three to number four in the AP poll yesterday. You choose how much stock you put into the eight people I don't put a lot into it, but I'm not someone who says it doesn't matter.

It does matter perception when you're a contender trying to win an ACC championship.

Also trying to win consecutive college football playoff national titles in the case of Clemson. I don't see a scenario now with the way the ACC's being disrespected the way the Tigers are being treated, which I believe is unfair. I don't see a scenario they get in with one law. Good news is college football playoff committee.

They may not share the same views as the AP voter.

There's also I don't think any scenario limbs in his left out of the playoff with an undefeated record in an ACC championship. Notre Dame's number nine. I don't really see anything on their schedule that will have them leapfrog clips at any point, especially since the Irish lost a game earlier in the year and Athens also the pack 12 is not really a serious contender in this for the third consecutive year.

Here's why I'm upset Clemson wins on the road against foreign to Louisville by 35 points and they still drop them the same Louisville team a little over a week ago that went into Winston-Salem and beat Wake Forest 62 up at BB&T Field, Clemson beats that team in their house by 35 yet AP voter's sole enough to say the Tigers should be leapfrogged by an Ohio State team that dismantled one in four Northwestern Clemson that's fine if you want to hold Clemson to that standard, I did Ohio State's been great. It's hard really poke any holes into Ohio State and the win against Cincinnati 42 to nothing and some of the other ones they've gotten look better as the seasons gone, which might elevate them over Clemson considering how bad things are in the ACC. I understand that what I have an issue with and where actually by SEC bias. They're not holding Alabama to the same standard.

How can you justify reasonably Alabama being ranked number one over LSU.

How can you do it. LSU has two top 15 wins their crushing everybody. Alabama didn't score an entire quarter against Duke struggled at first half struggled in the first half against Tennessee.

But Jon Stewart was hurt even went to a was in. They were laboring their way through it. Yet they don't get knocked down, despite how great LSU is why why is that another name program, Texas. How come Texas allows near 50 points to this and needs a game winning field goal by dipper.

The kicker himself at bullhorn to win that game. How come they enter the week of 15 and stay at 50 they'll get knocked out.

Not Texas, not Alabama but Clemson.when there were games beating the flooring to football thing that just got off a win against a ranked Wake Forest by 35 freaking points to knock them down around it is maddening how that yes or a hero. All those are valid points but you did just get done last week talk about how terrible the ACC was. It is, it is terrible but when other teams are holding their own. You got a hold them to the same standard Alabama facing Duke in that same ACC Tennessee judge just as bad as bottom tier ACC teams. They are that bad and Alabama doesn't get knocked out because nobody would dare cross Nick save it and knock Alabama out of the number one slot outside of them was honestly if you look at Alabama and Clemson schedule side-by-side.

To date, like what they've done. I mean, they have a common opponent, Texas A&M but I mean think they look the same owners and the results look fairly the same to the only thing that stands out as Clemson beating Carolina Bob point which is the time since Trevor Lawrence started and finished games for Clemson over a year ago that a game was decided by less than two touchdowns. The only time that's happened, the average win for Clemson was by over four touchdown. When you look at the results.

4514 over Florida State crushing Charlotte crushing Syracuse beating Texas A&M by two touchdowns beating, I want narrative was so Clemson didn't look great against Georgia Tech that covered 37 1/2 1 x 38 points of Clemson that they made mistakes against Louisville won the game 35 points. What are we doing here if that's not good enough. If 35 point is a good. The good news is this the offense might be struggling with, but the narrative if you remember going into the year. The only way things go south for Clemson is if the defense is what struggling but as the offense good enough to just overpower all of that make a moot point. The defense actually has looked great. And that's the scary thing here at the way my 35 point in the offense of Trevor Lawrence is struggling.

We know it. Trevor Lawrence capable of doing and Justin Ross and T.

Higgins and Cropsey to wind that gets right more confident with that personnel will get right. The defense has already shown us as being the? Going into the year that they are up to task despite losing all this defensive lineman Clemson Tigers are still my favorite right now to win the national title. They are, because the path is easiest for them and also I haven't given up hope and I'm not discounting a 35 point win against Louisville but from what you've seen the past three years in the top five right now. Would you put like on a neutral field. Would you take any other of these teams over Clemson right now.

Alabama LSU A8 if I had the whole LSU and Ohio State would be the top to take and then it would be Clemson, then Alabama will be Clemson on a neutral field right now but my question to you I was in it. It's two different questions.

What have you done to earn rankings and who I think is a better team. I don't think anybody has more talent than Clemson. I don't but LSU has earned being the number one team in the double standard that exists here get the AC things are getting out down Alabama.

Is it when they are struggling LSU fan should be ticked off. They should be the number one team in the country right now you're listening to WS yes Winston-Salem WCL to Greensboro WPC in Burlington WMF or Highpoint.

The signals picking up sports I try to hear some great sports thought well here it is dry with Josh Gray not ironic. It's just going to dental floss sports whole triad be enjoying a great mom trying to BS body was one of the leading face as well. At the national sports Association to his home here in the try and Winston-Salem. Specifically, I don't know if we've spoken since the SMA I know it's been a very long time. Ron Rivera earlier today said cam Newton is good to be working on the side not accessing ahead of the Panthers match up against the six and no San Francisco 49ers Kyle Allen. As you know is 14 consecutive games going into the bye week for the Carolina Panthers.

What's your perspective on what should happen once cam Newton's foot heals every now and then and what makes coaches like hell because you got a clear decision. Assuming that Kim is ready to go. You know when it in time responded well. Alan and I was sick and wasn't was far from the cam a couple years ago when we last saw him, and hasn't been at camp for a while and and and and injury was you'd like to think it's with the only reason I want to give him the benefit of the doubt and that and that if you were healed up and I could be the chemical sure what of late. If he is healthy and that is 100% healthy, but the thing is very similar to what is another one going on you know you have to out you will have to rush him back if this is you know if you think that is not should be on the up spit it out.

Shouldn't be a sense of urgency, given how well Alan is played out, since they're dealing with this petty interesting about that Bob among saints. This no question okay to breeze the whole thing right. He's one of the best players in their franchises history is no question, no matter how well Teddy Bridgewater plays winter breezes ready to go. He's gonna play when it comes to Kyle Allen and cam Newton we see the argument of hey don't rock the boat with things going well II don't see any of those narratives in New Orleans. Despite the fact that 15 because you write any identified difference there which is opposite of deity is going to speech start working on it now, you know, whatever it be by securement records +5 and they and he goes.net category flashes of brilliance in his career and it is going to be retarded saying I was a damn good football player can have a group we square your rights.

Not exactly comparable certain glow Bob Bryant, you're one of the guys I rely on talking baseball in an age where it seems like people you talk to sides out of the mouth about baseball don't follow it as closely as we use to a national scale I'm looking at the odds here and it's the biggest odds in terms of a favorite in the World Series we've seen since the Red Sox in the Rockies at 2007 talking about the Astros who claims this weekend to face the Washington nationals.

Why do you believe the talent gap to be between the Astros and that you know what up because me about you have to step back, take a deep breath. Everybody realize what are odds on what what what constitutes art wire they made.

Odds are Vegas's opinion of what they think your perception is making an assumption about the public reaction to the teams in advance and and that the assumption is that the public thinks that this is not close that the rest Astros are carpet a prohibitive favorite. If that is true, the public or fools that they not notice the pitching that took place today, and you may not know that this is the one thing that has not one, not two, not three but four quality starters that that that that the port starter twice in his career taken no-hitters into the seventh inning of a postseason game. Most recently two weeks ago so I mean this to me is a series I respect them and be happy to sit back and watching. I find it highly amusing but that's all odds are in any sport. There are Vegas's opinion on what they think the perception of the fans is going to be.

Apparently they think of is been overwhelmed by the butter Astros as if the shirts are and and and Strasburg don't exist. And I don't get it by just a really good start. Yes yes I agree I mean when you look just a starting pitching. It seems to be there and then position players.

It seems like the nationals hold up well to Houston obviously has the guys have done it before, but then I think that you have to consider, but I don't think they add up to giving that what you know that to create a big gap. The two edges are they do, they have experience and then you're going for going for another two or three in a crib. I usually had three in a row and there there really good. They've been there and and I think if you're going that checkbox gave me no go position by position goes pitching but I didn't get down to yet coaching managing in this case, you gotta give the edge to hitch And my coming to play might not.

But something does more often people think and and short series baseball World Series to quick so I think that that that's true but I don't get it. Big gap yet it got me like up to date with my career is like, but like Springer, but Windows pretty good pretty good you know they got some gum so I got so this guys to convert your net net team and and and when to back but potential starting pitching. They got no solid bottom line on twitter glow Bob Brian to be joined by one of the busiest guys in all of sports media later in the week. Kevin Harlan here tonight on Monday night football. He will be on the call tomorrow on TNT for Lakers Clippers. It's the start of the NBA season no Zion Williamson in the front doubleheader as the knee soreness is going to cost him probably the first couple weeks according to the reporting done by your colleague Adrian working around ski at ESPN which NBA preseason contender and it seems like this year there are more of them than we become accustomed to in the way, do you have the most questions about going. I think I would say silly, still, even though they they have loaded up and over the last year I think is very important year for Ben Simmons. Okay, so I think silly if you fit the contenders of Philly and Milwaukee draw a line and then Boston Indiana okay and in the West, the court that the battle of LA Clermont and then Denver. People forget that a great record last year and I look Denver like out of the Lakers Clippers they got one yet.

So that there are not perfect teams got no like I do good when I had this discussion, I think the Lakers overall roster I like.

I take it I take it over over if I had to pick one and you said you can have one of these rosters and give you whatever coach you want and and and you know it off you go into the season. Which roster would you take and and I would take LA's roster but not by a lot and I and I will certainly listen to your argument to the contrary Tele Ella the Lakers to lick the clippers site is still the look they should still be in Buffalo but they should buy the white growing ever in the NBA franchise was Seattle and but second-biggest and not not fight too much was what happened to Buffalo. It was no reason why the Buffalo break should still exist most important stuff you seen any movies lately. The Joker once upon a time to it. Two days after big drought drought with Judy the other day and of course when it was all rigor is fantastic and what amazes me she does her own singing to Sally Judy Garland because that that would be ridiculously impossible, but you can sing and the way surprisingly well and her acting her her per Judy Garland this you know her assumption of the Judy Garland per personality and persona and an end-stage mannerisms and charisma tech is phenomenal. It's it's certainly an Oscar nomination were the performance and anybody that's interested net music and Judy Garland got to go see it and we saw a documentary which should be must-see for every American with a vote in America. It will be seen by like nobody and that is where is my way: anybody wants to know how we got certain place politically to go see Waco movie. Fortunately, people are going to see it say Mike Wallace is here documentary not on what is is is chilling. Frankly, it's so good. I got to know see getting close to Halloween Bob and there are laws that I learned today.

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I would say I've lost the capacity for shocking sports a long time ago and I guess I lost all of the competitive or shocking in public life and cultural cultural discussions link on twitter Bob, it's good to hear your voice give you a recommendation like near day okay go to YouTube go find the Korean call of the out today home right it's out there. I lets find this right now. Let's see if we could find the Korean home run call.

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I love broadcasters on the TV call who lay off back in the day Job worked two minutes knew what to do, but that's us, you got it. The Spanish call goes about saying you on contour and know that that goes without saying, but the Korean one. You know Bob is Once upon a time you are a play-by-play man for Boston College. I certainly was four years worth of basketball.

Most want to read. We will we will grace our listeners years with this Korean home run call in just a little bit Bob appreciate you are given us the recommendation and also spend some time with us.

It's good to hear from you.

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I was actually in the car on my way back from Wake Forest Florida State Saturday night. This was 12:15 and it was Dan Shulman calling the game on ESPN radio and its hard to find anybody who does it is good is Dan Shulman dust, but on listen, I'm willing to listen to other broadcaster and admit that I'm wrong even if I don't understand the words that are saying.

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Well, it's in Spanish and then as Korean onesies were trying to get down to the reason why we haven't we haven't had a chance to actually listen to this yet. So alright let's just let's just play something over the air. I'm down for the short and all there's the expert translation as well for Mayor will Korean builder really is Appalachian State in the driver seat for a new year six ballgame and will get to Wake Forest football to that's on dry ground driving everyone crazy mission accomplished sports triad. What comes to the ACC and college basketball people release I hate gay people so excited about getting set to start that I look at them. I dissect them and I take them too seriously, but the a people is out today or for ACC teams in the top 11 Duke is for Louisville for North Carolina ninth, Virginia 11th.

No other ACC team makes up any part of the top 25.

I have three big issues with the preseason poll by the way number one.

Michigan State catches Winston's back for that team.

They have a lot returning. They seem to be the common sense pick for the number one team in the country, Kentucky, with their great recruiting class to Kansas. Three and let's start with Kansas among my concerns. Kansas top five team in my mind. This team lost six games in the big 12 last year and you're supposed to be excited about the guys you have coming back.

Granted, Silvio to Sosa. He was ineligible and just practice with the team all of last year. He's going to be able to go this year and it's a good frontcourt and you had adult as of pookie who was hurt. Halfway through last year. I'm not discounting the frontcourt on discounting Devon Dotson, who is probably the best score among the guards whose returning Jetta Charlotte. By the way, I just don't think that this team is as good as Duke or Louisville or Michigan State. I don't think they should be ranked where they are. They might not be a top 10 team by seasons in usually a bank on Kansas having one of those great recruiting classes really have to 15th rank last bad class but I don't think this is a great team. I think it's a good team just one that happens to be ranked a little bit too high. Can Zagat probably a little bit too high to number eight. I was surprised they were in the top 15 considering all that they lost Zach Norvell, Junior, who looked very good with the Lakers during preseason play. He raises serious concerns about what the zags have a point guard and Killian Tilly's the one players returns that you're really excited about really hot tomorrow gone off this team. Brandon Clark gone as well. Tilly was hurt for a lot of last season so I don't really trust that at this point either. But putting those teams except it's the ACC Virginia deserves more love. If you're the national championship winning team. You should be ranked in the top 10 in the poll the next year. Remember that North Carolina team that won the title in 2009 and was awful. The year after dinner to go to the NCAA tournament.

It's the only team Roy had to make the NCAA. That team was ranked in the top 10 preseason after they won the top so they lose Danny Green, Tyler Hansbrough Ellington Lawson all them boys and we were supposed to get really excited about Dion Thompson, Marcus getting your and the where twins oh yeah, let's make that team a top 10 ranking Virginia is it is stripped as that team was Virginia. I almost feel like it's underrated this point.

At 11 and that's not usually the conversation you're having with the preseason poll after you win a national championship. Virginia returns malady do you keep day with the most important job Virginia basketball history. I argue that shot was assisted by Keay Clark the starting point guard. His back is well.

Braxton key, he's back.

He was the leading rebounder for Virginia coming off the bench and I really like J half. I don't know if the statistic is But I believe Huff to be the only person last year who dumped on Zion Williams, who put Zion on the poster that was tough. Here's the only issue with that Zion fought back. And if you remember him going through three defenders and dunking with the right hand and Cameron that was on J half so Wally dumped on Huff. Diane had a thing to say about it by games that I like to help, from Durham, North Carolina, got. I like this Virginia team. Don't overlook the I like them more than I like North Carolina at this moment.

You might think it's a hot take but BRCA1 is losing a lot and I think you're losing a lot more than Virginia is from being on the big question they have to answer is not any deity to his lack of scoring the first few years of him being a virgin is that more a product of him being unable to score his game not being developed enough to score consistently or him just simply not being asked to score. Same thing with tradeshow like you got all these companies who are putting shops Reddit shots at reddish Zion O'Connell and you name it always puts reddish attempting to how many shots were left foot for Joan. Same deal here for when you're losing Jerome and Guy and Hunter.

How many shots were actually there for Hunter to tech at the big questions I really like Virginia. I think that they probably should be ranked higher than where they are. Also, I have no idea how Florida states not in the top 25. No clue. Trent Forrest is to be one of the best point guards in the nation. One of the four best point guards in the ACC as a top four because you already know what you're getting with Martell Johnson, Trey Jones and call Anthony Forrest is right there with those guys he returns. He's a senior. This is pretty inexperienced teams, but I team but with the transfers coming in there, not the lack scoring in the back court. They were a strength in numbers team have a great coach and Leonard Hamilton. They made it to the elite eight. Two years ago. Sweet 16.

Last season they won 26 games last year they were in the ACC tournament championship game don't support Florida state. They should be in the preseason top 25. Those are my three objections to the a people. Paul Meyer Berg will get the college football with him about 10 minutes national college football writer for USA Today sports thoughts are welcome on twitter at sports on Tryon 336-777-1600 maybe assist me put get your opinion on this. Just looking at this this initial preseason poll is still different in the past couple years where I know there, trying to prop Michigan State up is that the team to follow all year and they should should win it all the knowledge and stuff but it feels like there's not really one squad that like. But the nation will rally around my Lasher was due here. One was attracted to Zion and Archie Barrett and all the stars and everything not of this dupe with the classes they bring in.

It's easy to get attracted to these high-profile kids, but the do class a shares, not a high-profile Kentucky. The class what is high-profile for you. Still, you mention Kansas.

I don't know.

It just feels like the team Michael Louisville Laura or Marilyn might be there at the end of the year and no one's going to talk about them as much until we get to the end of the year. Michigan State was an obvious choice for number one with Winston back. Also, you gotta remember they went on that Ron to the final four last year without Joshua Langford got her at a very key strength. He's good to be back and they don't recruit scrubs at Michigan State and one of the biggest testaments I think to the coaching of Tom is up is that he gets these great players and they stick around when you think of great Michigan State basketball players. The last and I don't 20 years you look at Zach Randolph stuck around you look at last 10 years, dream on green stuck around Gary Harris stuck around most bridges house bridges stayed an extra year when he probably would've went higher. If he did not Adrian paint stuck around these Michigan State players. They love playing for his and its just an incredible feat and something you shown it_for under value of the fact that you're able to recruit the top layer and then keep them in school based on what you're selling to them and how much they enjoy the experience of playing in your program so they have that going for them.

Ron Rivera updated the quarterback situation for the Panthers kind of today. He said that Kyle Allen is going to start on Sunday get sandwiches go cam Newton isn't going to practice per se but is to be working on the side is good to be with team trainers all week. They're not trying to rush him back Adams after last week said that he would be healthy enough to practice this week, but it doesn't seem he is going to at least at this point.

Let's hear Ron Rivera say something didn't try to glean some substance out of it well have an answer guys questions.

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The traders of told me tell you that he's done his job is done exactly what we need from him and will continue to go forward until things change. To get anything out of that. This note same thing I knew I woke up and put it on mission accomplishment is Clemson getting a fair shake is Appalachian State in the drivers seat for a new year six bowl game last Paul Meyer Berg of USA Today sports next sports talk. If you are talking about it. I'm talking truth we're talking about this radio drive which Josh Graham theory. I don't believe 9/11 was a hope. I don't believe that government withholding information about aliens. I don't think television networks similarly are saying the television deal with the SEC for all of our fellows talk about the SEC by biasing bars.

I believe any league wins six consecutive national titles talk about those leaks a little bit more. I think that I do buy in this regard, there is respect that is been invested that have been earned has been earned with the SEC and its cause there to be a different standard held other programs in other leagues than what you have, the SEC and specifically talking about Clemson and I'm interested in the national perspective from Paul Meyer Berg now joins us from USA Today sports I see Clemson going on the road beating a Louisville team that we saw here in Winston-Salem be all right. Deke team a little over a week ago. The score is a 35 point margin.

Yet they fall after Ohio State crushes a one in four Northwestern team but it's not just the Clemson portion of this of them dropping that bothers me is the standard that we hold to maybe since I brought up the SEC, Alabama. They struggled a little bit this weekend against Tennessee. Nobody seems to have any quarrels with the fact that they remain number one LSU speaking to top 15 teams, though, and they are rolling along and they are number two as opposed to Alabama which remains there.

I think we have Paul Meyer Berg now so do you think that this standard that Clemson's being held to by the AP voters is fair fair fairly live in a vacuum, but gangbusters may have that I think they deserve some kind of recognition and respect in terms of being a contention for number one, two, three, or whatever. I think her crimes and their big idea blowback to a degree, because I feel off the expectation that when every game they would dominate 2120 UNC okay all you know, obviously, not many good grades correctly. Manning out more. All last year. Okay I'm not any good. I don't buy into it and maybe not quite as good as they were last year but will be expected given some changes on the thing out there that they unequivocally better than one thing the country because no matter what is right there I find ironic about all this, I would've told you people were questioning the Clemson Tigers in October and then I told you it wasn't the descents that they were concerned about. It was the offense. What would you set the I don't want to hear you got okay the offer of October, November, they knew they had all but I don't think they knew I did not get what they were going to get on the boat you have a preventable truck for your top three are so you know that things are constant like a week ago I wrote about them after therapy. If your biggest concern right out from the Lord really should be concerned about where Dr. Lord glacier, do you envision a scenario where an unbeaten Clemson gets left out of the college football player 41 where a one loss Tigers might get in no Maryland world or factions or 004 years the road and went to the national title no chance in the world they would not be a Moshe. I do think a very good chance that we'll know in a couple weeks on the first day when they do first outstanding will know we have a bit of a divorce situation went from sophomore year as well look good. They beat me and one close call but we don't know about all the teams we knew we do know who LSU Alabama and Ohio State. I went shopping barely gets all the three maybe four but I don't get any really realistic at all. One loss in 2016 Pittsburgh upset Clemson. They still find a way to get in if it's let's say Wake Forest since they are the only other ACC team ranked in the top 25. They beat the Tigers but Clemson still somehow goes to the damage again and went any shot. You know, I do think that were not counting the November day five unbeaten team think yourself.

There's no way anyone of the Alabama LSU beat each other are going to lose what their opponent won't lose out on Viper. Do you know her crimes like I think I'm 13 and one unless you have Oklahoma Ohio State Alabama you know, maybe an organ that will keep them out. I really can't see it. I really can't committee will respect crimes and too much look at this your left.

It's week by week. That seems one of those top 10 teams get picked off Georgia at home against South Carolina and this past weekend, lovey Smith and his beard beating the Wisconsin badgers as Illinois put up pulled off the upset.

We are chatting with Paul Meyer Berg.

You can follow him on Twitter at Paul Meyer Berg read his stuff. USA Today sports around here. Appalachian State is big deal in the mountaineers.

They are 21st in the nation in the most recent AP top 25 again the first college football playoff rankings will come out to the day before Halloween for a couple weeks away from that. But assuming SMU loses because SMU. There, the team that if they go on and when. Now the Boise State loss there going to be the group of five team that plays in the new your city near six bowl, what would have to happen for Appalachian State in order to get to the new year six bowl game to be the group of five Byzantine well beaten SMU America will be the American cop who often speak about what you ought hard for me to say I don't really address the graphic right now with the committee.

Undoubtedly, never been in a situation never had to consider the cop you know that they will rely on imports are not that last week I stated the first one is a ranking you look at the back office read and agreed amount left with wearout Boise State Utah State so on. The American having been there multiple times, I got an issue like there's no road.

Not like you know there's nothing quite obviously you I think Cincinnati went out concern or you went out if the concern about the no-brainer Boise State. They have the power five road win at FSU Cincinnati.

They had their one losses to Ohio State which we talked about how great they are in a beat UCF and it's a really tough league.

You believe that a one loss. Cincinnati in a one loss. Boise State would get the nod over an unbeaten Appalachian State that if they are unbeaten at the end of the year.

Paul would have to power 510 beating the market over doing a look there. I think the only point I would make a resume. I would always make it a little bit. Even with Boise State you blog about what I went out I went on my concern is only the perception of the Sunbelt is very light likely going to be extremely poor is not really good in that room. The American reputation under really good, really strong, however I think are very powerful.

The debate which is to degree, much less controversial than trying to find out for a lot of power to be had and we are the only unbeaten team. And you're the only unbeaten Pima group of five. Not to mention yet to power by winds on the road.

I think it really shouldn't be a debate. I think you should get in a 13 allograft date, concerned that they won't because the committee will look at the Sunbelt faith is not nearly good enough to say that being unbeaten merit better than being one law.

How many teams you think right now Paul had a legitimate argument to believe they are the number one team in the country, one for five output Penn State micro quite yet. I have been obviously brought the ball for about 21 minute win that game. 4290 think I was really sure that they had bought Alabama climbed the speaker itself.

LSU is interesting to have the wind winning at out and about. Like you I think I'm a lot better and Ohio State been a lot better. I don't know really true. Look the part they were number 105 but each of them can make some degree there is legislation in the state of North Carolina with Halloween approaching Paul that says that you actually could face legal punishment for trick-or-treating older than 13 years old. I wonder how old is too old in the mind of Paul Meyer Berg according to this report from channel 11 in Durham. There are places in Chesapeake, Virginia and also Newport News and several North going to cities that have restrictions of 12 or 13-year-olds and also a 9 PM curfew that yet the fall of her triggers while still trick-or-treating after 14 or 15, you're doing it with evil intent, probably breaking the law and what you're doing fireworks but you know all sorts of stuff but not but I think 13 it's like be the conventional title, level what you want to like sunlight.

14. That's not you want to say that your kids I don't get should be illegal free country to build walls and a man of freedom and saying like a baby doing the fireworks illegally at 1415 years old that you should be able to trick-or-treat if you want to.

What's the best trick-or-treating outfit that Paul Meyer Berg wars again. I was right headband and ID be the outfit where, and so I did that. How many cream tics a bunch of their on their bed off short shed groups all the absolute best Paul, thanks for playing along to spending some time with us. It's appreciated.

Thank you, Paul Meyer Berg twitter at Paul Meyer Berg great boy here. Please double check and see if that's a joke because I double checked.

There are 22 news stories from separate outlets that are put this out here and then also there is a Reddit page. Sadly, this is not the onion that has the story here saying that this is legitimate. So I did my due diligence of making sure it's not Google or Wikipedia. Make sure it's an actual news outlet and finding two of that have had the same information here so it does seem legitimate. Not making a joke here, 12, 13 years old or 13 or 14, it's too old to be trick-or-treating and there could be legal punishment. It seems like it's just the Leica ordinance for the town type thing that's not there's no state law that's on the books rise right but if you live in, like, say, Apex then you can go trick-or-treat unless you're under the age 12 years old. Aaron your thoughts only have personal experience with this and I can only say that didn't want to see a pic of me and my friend at 1314 years old Roman down the street at night. We all engaged in the activities.

This didn't want to see it as asking a question that I possibly could not ask could not possibly imagine how that would sound the same question that Desmond just asked you listen here are you engaging in activity is to have the following to the probably terrorizing the always helpful in football is meant do you give out small candies are big bars wheat for home all those key life that I actually got big bars really say we love those houses we take my kids to those houses. First, we have a plan but what kind of candy do you usually want because here's what I got. Hershey kisses is always Hershey's with almonds and others either but receives pieces always away never been a recent piece of sky while SSD has been weird that is everywhere, some as quickly move along to Bars when a classic right and those are completely yet for Mark to cuts bit. I think if I got that collection of goodies I could accept giving the driver, Josh Grant isn't coming through here was the weirdest thing ever gotten trick-or-treat hall. I mean candy apples weird. I mean, they're little suspect. First, when I came up with live goldfish gusset sports bags go fishing like a fair cooler use did not go fancy -weighted desperate straits rated to get all these no one one that no one one basket.

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