The Drive with Josh Graham - UNC Head Coach Mack Brown

This is dry when Josh drives a weekday afternoon sports Carolina right now is my record. The other thing this Saturday night at 730 at every single game. Our next guest we set it for you. Well after the game Darnell separate from darling.

Those were the words of Mack Brown, North Carolina had coaches kind enough to spend time with us now following the Tar Heels dramatic when overdue.

You are the all-time winningest coach. Now that North Carolina has that title set in. It really have it first… Really that many think for me it is really about all the great players and staff members and and and guys who were involved in most 73 when an embryonic leader and insulting to the University of the doubt meant a lot to me that I was hearing brought those guys here and that it does matter so I'm proud to be the winningest coach.

Understanding that it represents the players and one of the fun thing this weekend been home, and I spent back in so many of our guys for those 10 years, came back and they responded with a smile on their face when we won the game and know that they have been part of those, 73, when, and the guys that are currently on the team to so it it represents a whole lot more than just make Saturday nights game like every single one of your home games sold out and something that needs to be pointed out, some people think your games are sold out. They think okay, that might be like ticket sold. It's not exactly what the crowd looks like I made this point several times. These are legit sellouts.

Saturday was completely packed against the blue Devils and I envision the same thing this weekend, but I wonder, is this the kind of following you envisioned when you took this job when you decided to return back to Chapel Hill. Did you think this would happen so quickly… I did not and in fact I was pleasantly surprised. Sold out all season tickets so quickly and then we come back and now we sold all the games except Mercer and it's down to a few tickets left.

And not only are they buying the tickets.

Like you said, they're coming, but they're making a difference when I was here before.

I don't really remember the crowd making such a difference. Now we didn't have either end on like they are now on much more.

It's much better for no there there impacting the game and they like and I can tell them to come in early and later stay until the end of every game.

Another close block people still leave anyway. The tailgating they're having fun so that the environment right now, our fans, especially our students or students of been great that this is much more than I ever envisioned a blog I asked you a few nights ago. What is it mean to you to play meaningful football in the month of November you to set it.

It's pretty fun to do that and it's fun to win but we did you know you had a team that was capable of competing for a coastal division title when you're one I actually thought one in the fall when all the guys that miss spring practice on defense came back after June 1 we got a chance and then play him how so I really felt like that.

We have a chance to win the first two and that I thought we would've made sure I did then wait we go we don't play well at workforce and I got a good team lead at three turnovers against upstate here lose weight so I am really disappointed at this point can't believe it, and then, so it just got to a point there, where you start thinking about what we could have been what we could. Now what we are back with a chance we lost like the Clemson really liked him six overtimes to Virginia Tech. Those are disappointing games but then you come back in, you quite well at Georgia Tech could've become by more but didn't. Okay will get better I thought. Unlike Virginia Tech Josh Saturday night the first time that we have a chance, but game away and we fumble when we did that last year against Virginia Tech. We didn't step up and stop woman that the stop Saturday night against you, hope will be a step toward competence for this team so they know when things start going poorly of that when uncle is a game we have step up and find waste when the man who helped make that stop chance a rat he made the play and he's your team is becoming one of the best stories in college football but him individually. One of the best stories as well. Flipping from quarterback to linebacker, but that stories been covered enough. I'm now interested in chance to write the linebacker who he reminds you of is somebody who's coached plenty of NFL talent at that position, but really thought about it because he sees so new to the position that I would have to go back and check the many great linebackers. We played that he's going to be in that group thinks he's a guy I think will definitely be on NFL got another year. You need some some more time to really get all these reads and that instinct going with exactly all the steps and things to do in the linebacker but you know he sees 230 pounds runs 44545 is an amazing athlete and I do think the fact that he knew the game so well on authentic quarterback is really speeded up his process and learning how to play lumber. It's not going to head football coach Mack Brown.

With this in sports try at the first college football playoff rankings come out this week. Last year at this time you were analyzing who you thought would be in certain spots and whether it was the right rating or ranking were not Clemson is a team that interest me because I wonder what you make of the way they continue to get knocked.

They beat your team by a point on the road and they drop a spot in the rankings, then they beat Louisville by 35 points.

The same global team that beat Wake Forest a ranked team at the time a few weeks ago beat Louisville I Mercer's be beat Virginia this past weekend and not only to Clemson when they won by 35. They drop a spot as well. Last week in the AP poll. What you make of it.

Think were also debated, won the national championship and you know that look at the guys at Gloucester Pittsford and won a national championship meet Syracuse or maybe the last drive of the game last year and they don't win a national championship so quickly. I went through this with Texas when you're as good as Clemson every year the expectations get out of the roof and were the ones that make those expectations not Clemson and we make them so high that they don't live up to them.

Then it gets us.

But if you look at that. Most teams, they always play better at the end of the year, but maybe the beginning of the year and I think they're just about ready to take off Boston College's got a really good team and they beat them what to do seven or half team or something I'm not disturbing people in the 50s.

Now your pretty good so and and for Trevor Lawrence. I got only 66 run like a deer and is a great classroom number one pick ago.today we criticize him, but you never want to games never lost so I think the ones that it's probably an insult people that you nearly we played pretty well so I think that Clemson is on the right in the mix will be on board. I look forward to probably see him in the championship game. Keeping your analyst title and how would you describe the state of the coastal division and what is called coastal chaos. I think it's just that every team about like every team is got a chance to win the game that we better come down to the end. Every week, except Georgia Tech. In fact, Jeremy Sharp, our director of communications found out that the week had the closest games and are seven other than Georgia Tech of any team since 1936 want to start so it unbelievable what it comes down to some asked me last week. What about you that just come the last drive.

You don't neglect the rest the game will come down last drive and and and it did again though.

When we got quite good to make sure Virginia's comes down the last draft of the really good team but I would think this would be a great game Saturday night as well. You brought the dance moves back on Saturday coats and a lot of people were talking about that but here's something you might find interesting. You share company in Chapel Hill in terms of loathing the way that they dance with North Carolina basketball coach Roy Williams who at late night with Roy.

He did the electric slide. We rented to coach a few weeks ago and apparently coach is not on social media whatsoever. He did not see your dance after the South Carolina game. So we asked him about it and this is what Coach Williams had to say and I'm really glad ViaVoice really good codes for those who are waiting. I'm really glad it is really good about their I hate that. But I like women and put it out. Tell me you got from every family when your grandpa that I may avoid a lot of care now coach said that he, Roy and I might you have a damn thing with a stop that be great all judge it in you to damper the start. Not dancing except for the steam and I got a little smarter this week… The first was so bad because I got caught off guard dogs on their but now that they're making me okay give me a go to move if you give me one go to move all be okay, but you gotta change it up at Riverwind and hopefully there's more downtime or damn thing out there for me Québec that the that that's just something there enjoy their enjoyment. Making a fool out of myself occupied. How would you describe your go to move. It's awful move of God call the damn things awful. I think that's why people like hilarious so bad I'm I'm willing to make a fool out of myself in front of the kids when many forget that our staff flushing fire all of them about and I don't watch it when they send it out either but Sally says you really look that you know you look like a fool. We won the game came back to win to get it all put up with bad that cuckold was on the show and he said for the record he was unafraid. So will you can do the dance competition you can you can judge it dancing with the**style as Williams and David Kunkel to get out baby once coach K to appreciate the time and I will see you Saturday night things got thank you – thanks Ravenel that is Mack Brown continues to dance on and does.

I don't know if you actually saw the dance moves that he had one of those arms crossing his chest.

I think that's the feedback that he got that's what he should do, but apparently our show has gotten to inside the walls because he heard what Coach Conklin had to say coach Scott was unafraid to dance there, and now Roy Williams comments are on the radar Mack Brown think a wise wise man thinks that Joe wants to swing back and easy to do that at Rockaway that settling back to step not that advice or maybe just like the movie nonstop you can do all you need is the one moving her head was the dice roll.

He's doing the dice roll too much. I think it's only had the confidence I do think Saturday nights going to decide the coastal division.

I really do Virginia, North Carolina, 730 kick inside Keenan Stadium.

Each of these teams. They only have three ACC games left counting this one.

Saturday, so whoever wins it is going to be foreign to and that means they have the least room for chaos to happen to games left for North Carolina and conference but you have Pittsburgh on the road and you have to go to NC State as of the last two games for North Carolina. After this one.

I think it's going to be North Carolina Saturday night and I'll tell you why it's a home game and it's a legit home-field advantage. What Coach Brown is describing yourself. I've been floored by the 180 N. Joanna football ticket in terms of the support for target football fans are getting there early and their staying late even if the games along there's a lot of drama in the gangs are close which makes things a form for more exciting to follow but it also makes things a lot more difficult for the visiting team come again also worked on it to take in this role of a team of destiny you heard the step from Coach Brown noting since 1936 has had this many close games North Carolina having played eight games now, seven of them being decided by a combined 22 point it's starting to have Betsy the Tar Heels are a little healthier then Virginia is Virginia's best player is probably to be a first-round draft pick Bryce all corner he's out for the remainder of the season and you've seen Virginia kinda take a downward spiral since his injury, losing to Miami on that Friday night, losing to Louisville on Saturday. Meanwhile Miles will you move your member. He's the one that had the handful of pics in the opener against South Carolina. He's going to be returning. According to J Bateman defensive coordinator earlier today.

I also think North Carolina has an advantage at quarterback Sam how over Bryce Perkins and when it comes down to it, one of the most important elements we talk about in college football is coaching and I'll take Mack Brown and his staff versus anybody other than Clemson. The ACC likely I go as far to say that this seem like Virginia's year to win the coastal division.

Now it's starting to seem like Kirsten somewhat if Virginia doesn't win this year will they ever win, they never won the coastal playing in the average temperature game since the team split into divisions there still a lot of room for chaos so I don't want to be taken wrong here, but the cavalier states just spoiled. So many opportunities. Plus they still haven't beaten Virginia Tech in 15 years. So I have the hoagies at the end of the schedule you have North Carolina NC state how much fun is that we can we can get a bit let's say if the scenario is Virginia needs North Carolina delusions or vice versa. North Carolina needs Virginia to lose and you have the calves trying to snap this long losing streak against their rivals in Blacksburg and North Carolina. Mack Brown facing NC State for the first time since returning that game being Carter Finley Stadium in Raleigh a lot of drama.

There, but I know what I'm doing sound like heresy trying to predict the unpredictable trying to cut through all the nonsense in all the chaos and pickers going to win the coastal I think it's simple. Saturday night, the winner of Virginia North Carolina.

I thick-skinned to be playing in Charlotte against the Clemson Tigers. If I had to guess who wins that game. I think it's the team of destiny in the ACC right now Mack Brown's North you want to talk and what just as everybody started to come together and wanting him that Ron Rivera reminds us that he still injure while ago Kyle Allen cam will start Sunday in Charlotte against the Tennessee Titans and that is absolutely positively 100% the right decision and he isn't fully healed.

He hasn't practiced yet and I feel like I'm constantly having to remind people that there is a different bar you have to clear in order to practice versus play just because cam starts practicing doesn't mean he's ready to play on Sunday. In fact, with cam working on the side last week, participating at practice not practicing but working on the cyber trainers traveling with the team being supportive on the sideline. That's all a very good sign. Moving forward for his health but he hasn't practiced yet.

I'm not even saying he is a good practice is weak, it might happen tomorrow, it might happen on Wednesday and when that happens it doesn't necessarily mean he's game ready. You need to get that timing back with your receivers. You need to test that foot in such a way where Pam knows he can be cam when that time comes. Whether that's on the road at Green Bay the following week or after that Atlanta comes at the Charlotte. Another reason why it's wise to play Allen here you can beat Tennessee with Kyle out like I'm not saying Carolina is a bad football team with Alan playing quarterback just because you lost to the 49ers in that manner yesterday by a score that's literally never been accrued the same points put on the board as the Pampers and Niners did something that's never happened.

Just because Carolina got slaughtered doesn't mean Carolina can't be competitive with Alan. I set it on Friday. This is the best test. Carolina had this year so far all the defenses that Kyle Allen faced on the four-game winning streak. None of them were ranked in the top half of the NFL that rush defense problem that everybody seemed to be ignoring because Carolina had improved sack totals and fees Avenue was turning over the football time and time again. It reared its ugly head again and the Pampers clinic get Kevin Coleman on the ground so those are things that will appear when you play the top echelon of the NFL the 49ers. What we learned yesterday there were part of that group, I thought yesterday had more to do with San Francisco and Carolina if that makes sense. That top group of the NFL. How many teams are a part of it. I think it's the patriots. San Francisco Green Bay Packers the Canton city Cheapside still sayer in that group. When the homes is healthy and aside from that, I don't think anybody else is. There may be the New Orleans Saints. That's that's the group.

Is there anybody else. We got how many teams is that gets five teams patriots in the AFC densities in the AFC minutes, 49ers, Packers and saints. Five teams other than playing those five teams. I think Kyle Allen with this roster around him to be competitive with anybody. You certainly can beat Tennessee on Sunday. The only the goal here for Carolina's try when insuperable.

The only way that happens is if cam Newton resembles even the six into quarterback from last year I completed 70% of us trust. It doesn't have to be in the pecan like 2015 Allen can't reach that level. Allen is limited is a guide, it two years ago was benched not for the Houston Texans. The Houston cougars college football team and that wasn't even a very good Houston team. I was post Tom Herman but I don't want this to turn into me taking shots at Allen. He's done an excellent job. He succeeded every single expectation that anybody could have four and one this year five and one if you count that saints came at the end of last season, so I'm not taking that away from him at all, but with Alan it quarterback you are a playoff contender. A borderline playoff team. You might get in and you're going to get blitzed in the first round. That's the ceiling without we could do a damn good job at that.

If your goal is to win a Super Bowl, you need to have a healthy can so I think most Panther fans are on the same page with that today.

Your thoughts are welcome on twitter at sports triad 336-777-1600 is the phone number I had quite the interesting weekend at North Carolina Duke in Keenan on Saturday. That's how many views did that video get close to 65, 70,000 people viewing it on twitter. I didn't know what I had when I first film that on the field that scuffle. If you could call it that Jordan Tucker after a Duke player put his hand in his face face doctor was trying to get his helmet. Tucker is waving back at the Duke blue Devils as they go into the tunnel.

David cut Cliff trying to separate them got his hands on Tucker for a bit, little bit of a forearm shiver, not a full shot of by the Duke head football coach, but something bound with something like that was bound to happen when you have the victory bell which North Carolina got back from the blue Devils sitting right there in that tunnel where Duke's trying to exit following emotional loss. So we'll get to that game and about 10 minutes. The drive is broadcast live in the Law offices of Timothy D. Wellborn Studios. You can learn about all the waste and Wellborn can help you online@timwellborn.com. You'll know when you need us look to conduct the award winning columnist from the Raleigh news and Observer.

He was in Santa Clara yesterday. He was also at Duke, North Carolina on Saturday. He will be our guest about 25 minutes will get his thoughts on everything that's happening here. Here's my prediction for when cam Newton returns it's going to be for the Packers not this Sunday but the following Sunday.

I think cam's going to get some work at practice. He's been progressing nicely. He traveled with the team for the first time since the injury he isn't wearing the boot. He's jogging around doing his regular pregame warm-up he's working on the side last week. I think you get to do some practices. Then it just take some time for him to get timing would receivers and get 100% back.

I think it's 100% the right call to sit him for this week against the Titans. He's not fully healed.

And until that happens, you don't do the rash decision thing where you lose to the 49ers and you throw them back out there. I'm a little surprised Rivera made that announcement today.

Were you – I was surprised because what we see in New Orleans last week. What are yesterday to breeze plate even though it was a completely winnable game against the Cardinals. It was a 6 to 8 week injury.

The injury was sustained exactly 6 weeks to the day he had to wear this strange thing around his wrist to give support to the thumb that he was coming back from this week. The run up by week two I could get a got two extra weeks if you play Bridgewater at home against the Cardinals, but Drewry said he was even worried about the momentum with Bridgewater.

He wanted to be out there with his teammates again, so I thought this week had all of that written on cam back out there trying to be the Savior following the Pampers blowout loss to San Francisco. I think it's the right choice by Rivera but I'll be honest, I'm a little surprised me. For me it just tells me you can simply physically ready to compete mean it's hard enough to keep him off the field any other way. And if they're going out like this on a Monday and Sanyo is not a play called the starter in the discussion to me. That tells me cam is still a couple weeks away from being ready to rock 'n' roll. But I don't think it's cam making that call. I think it's Rivera who sang I'm not taking any chances. Yes cam today. I'm ready to go on Sunday. Coat and that seems to be what happened in the world.

Common sense would be sit yesterday, drew breeze by week end and will return you after the by what breeze seem to be the one to make that decision at St. coach.

I'm ready to go.

I'm a leader on this team, And I want to place and I'm glad you mentioned that your own situations like I got into a couple of heated debates over Sunday about this random folk on Facebook and Twitter yet I spend my time drinking us about this. Don't get things refiled or unable or that you're able to do that much file I've gotten my mentions the last two days since posting a video from both Carolina and Duke family should know how much I've gotten sure volume of stuff you probably get back far outweighs the amount that I get slapped time, not plural, but mark my point wasn't that the discussion was that people were telling me that drew breeze and worried about Teddy Bridgewater taken his job and blah blah blah. The same people told me the color I want to start over Tim Newton and Mike, I get it. Drew breeze a first ballot Hall of Famer is legend and all the stuff. He's also human and he's watching Teddy Bridgewater lead his team.

What five wins in a row. Of course he's going to want to get back as soon as you can because you don't want to get Wally Pip. If you have anyone. If you want the best perspective you will hear on Panthers 49ers and getting what old-fashioned style yesterday. It's Panthers defensive lineman Gerald McCoy that provides it him being asked about this being a tale of the tape game were you measure yourself against the best in the NFC here was Panthers knows God business is also very like we don't want to lose their weight loss and I gave just lost it when I go all we not as good as though the ratio that we did that work you are in versus gave him a long lost everything and so hurt feelings over, you know, the Clippers got today was Clippers trying to bounce back from a loss to the sons. It's the Charlotte Hornets tonight inside Staples Center. Charlotte put up a fight last night out of major-league baseball World Series games being played and Sunday night football, I found myself watching the Hornets getting double doubled by Dwight Howard. That's what I was watching as it was freaking 2009 Dwight Howard blocking shots and getting bucket but anyhow, it's very well said Gerald McCoy coming up back story on a viral video I sent out from UNC Duke and Mack Brown having to respond to that today. By the way, Mack Brown, a guest on today show. This is the drop off your other drive. Josh is safe now with this one of the hardest working guys in the business of calling Kenan Stadium on Saturday following North Carolina's narrow way overdue. Not knowing that he was going to be on a bird.

Soon after that Santa Clara Gov. Panthers blowout loss to the San Francisco 49ers talking about from the Raleigh news and Observer now witness with us.

The time winner here in the Triad in SMA North Carolina sportswriter of the year on Twitter at Luke Peacock Luke.

The big news in the last hour or so.

Cam Newton will not be playing Sunday against the Tennessee Titans. Kyle Allen will be getting the start. Do you believe what's cam starts practicing he will play or do you think there's a different bar you have to reach to play in a game versus being cleared for practice. Generally speaking through the quarterback you want get to weeks of practice in before they play in a game you know that that would kind of even the way things went and yesterday that it would probably be the Green Bay, not the game but you got. I don't know that the timetable is changed to conduct a fairly I do think what we saw yesterday was an indication that get good team know what they're doing delete your Kyle Allen limitations are more exposed and so you can kind of scrape by for a period of time, but there were there were no. Connecting yesterday were quarterback. It was more mobile strong arm all the reason that it cam Newton, Kyle Allen and Kyle Allen.

You can kind of see them all. You know in in play yesterday and that wasn't always the case of the previous working so I I know the sentiment income portions of the Panthers fan base that Kyle Allen and their guy had just it's just very. To me that when you have an unbelievable athlete like cam Newton who can do things other players can't. You'd rather have the very limited game manager in the nothing against Kyle Allen working played probably to the highest extended ability and quite well.

Did some things well other than the fumbling you did a lot of things well yesterday didn't do anything well which everybody but the sort of love affair with Kyle Allen and you know that is all the people who take every opportunity to take Chuck to cam Newton.

This is been a particularly fertile few days to flip it to the other side of the ball.

It seems to me if the defense is forcing turnovers and the defenses sacking the quarterback. The sexy totals I like to call it on that site you're willing to ignore a lot of things and the things that I thought was ignored.

While the Panthers were winning games and turning over the ball and getting to the quarterback was the rush defense which ranked 23rd in the NFL going into the weekend and the 49ers. The second ranked rushing offense and we saw that the Niners were able to exploit that. How big of a problem do you believe the rush defense to be because I don't want to do the show were overreacting to one loss when that one loss just so happened to be my wide margin and a quicker point you got me about the rush yesterday. Brendan Margaret Holly Charlotte Gilbert wrote a story about you know that the way how unprepared, generally speaking, the Panthers were pretty much everything the 49ers really didn't prolong a lot a lot of the really good Screen after their little drinking dumb pipe but they were able, with misdirection in an really clever playcalling of the shovel For the touchdown. All really cool quite they were able to really around. You do really well that you really aggressive pass rush that they can get to the quarterback you got you got Brian Burns when healthy a lot of things going on there and they play aggressively when your team like the 49ers that a one the ball well and be A playbook for misdirection. Yet they just trap and ruling green. The pantry that they basically took the Panthers African youth to begin the Panthers have to be better against the law and absolutely no question about it, but their pass rush will make up a lot of ill.

You're making some choices there that you think you're going to have a better chance to win by having a more aggressive pass rush anymore path of the event that may have a little better control the run so I you know there's a little bit of picture poison their what the 49ers did really well with you really have to Panthers week that while also utilizing strengthen your bond company will strengthen their to me that that so many things well I think that they can get away with it against the run from time before you really good job of of you know, kind of having your cake and eating it looked to Cox of the Raleigh news and Observer spending time with us here on sports untried. You can follow him on Twitter at Luke to concrete himself read his stuff in the Observer and online@newsandobserver.com work to get to the coastal division and about 10 minutes or so North Carolina facing Virginia this week and again that's already sold out this past weekend's game was two and it was a legit sellout with the crowd, completely full. It seem like at the very end as well, as North Carolina held on against the blue Devils so this team and you're one of the coach Brown is to be playing a very important football game in the month of November coming up this weekend.

What do you view to be Mack Brown's biggest accomplishment to this point with this Tar Heel football program." They walked the other number that walking every game that a lot of what they want. Some of the game and they been in the game and to me that the turnaround from from last year. The competent that it could be in the North Carolina had all the quote walked the last two years.

Last year, especially entered could be able to turn some of the wind.

I don't think it just can't hear the old rule about turnover margin. If you're -1 euro because it is accurate.

Too much randomness involved. I don't think that's the case as North Carolina."

I think the law" game laughter because they they really didn't lack confidence and they lack the ability to finish a game called cliché, but it mean not getting nervous. Not overcooked over being overaggressive, not doing someone else's job in getting out of tradition, but having the confidence to play your game even really high letter situation. Mack gone I think what that attribute of the coaches. Sometimes it is Peter Feldman I don't like the pejorative way like that like that all he does or or or any that I had the ability to talk to people and convince them that you know what you saying is right or good for them or whatever that white recruiter that think what he thought his work crew 15 required be inherited and recruit them to believe that they can win because they couldn't before and I think we see that we got a South Carolina and we saw the other day and they think they need all of you gain any competitive team even thinking what the difference between laughter, which was occasionally competitive team that could never get over the hall and this year which of the team that in every game and have gotten over the I think that Max greatest greatest accomplishment get 15 believing that if they did better than it was. Without other than the quarterback vision change basically the same team with family quarterback that the huge upgrade was good. Mack ability to get the player by even believe it is always good at ice. Why such a good recruiter and even able to recruit.

This came over to his way of thinking. So on Saturday after the game, and stairs Jordan Tucker looking for his helmet. There's another video. In addition to the one that I I posted online on my twitter account where somebody in the stands so do player putting his hand in the face of talker to kind of instigate things Tucker was them waving and taunting some players. They went to the tunnel. David cut click to break things up and in doing so, put his hands briefly on Tucker to try and separate things a bit. I'm sure a lot of guys would like to have things back in. Mack said earlier today that did you know maybe don't have the Dell in the same corner as the team that's exiting. Following an emotional game. Maybe moving forward. That's the right place to be.

But I love what you wrote in your story that ran yesterday in the Observer just simply comparing it to the rivalry status say that we saw in basketball where you said those two programs would never get involved with something like this because they have a little bit too much to lose what would happen if were talking in the hypothetical sense.

If a coach confronted the player and the Duke UNC basketball rivalry. I you know that you and fairly. But you look at him with which Rick Barton held in Turlock for so long for standing up when he was a constant, though.

You see it you see what happened. Different circumstance thing about North Carolina after Paul what it is one of the greatest rivalry worked for fans is one of the greatest rivalry work and I've written this before. For the two program is a lot more that a lot more common than they have different and there are very few basketball programs that understand what it's like to be a bugler North Carolina Kentucky can that that might be it. At this point that at that level discussed I think is what you're saying NC state North Carolina Dinsmore discussed and say Duke and North Carolina say I program you can work on the are rivaled on the court off the court. They have a lot more in common than they have different bait they understand what it's like to be the premier program in college basketball. One of the four premier. No one else understands that you can't pick up the phone and call any number of people asked them about how you handle XYZ. Only two or three schools in the country that deal with what they feel there's a common ground there that you you you you see, there is that between Duke, North Carolina football to but the difference in football is the key and are absolutely scraping and fighting for their football life want to be North Carolina and North Carolina want to be Duke but their season is not going to end. If they lose their going to be out of canceling the return going to be a single digit the paper played in the final war that it might be different but pretty football team football teams that are living on the night that this is a game that desperately need to get one "suitable eligibility. No one cutting you guys any lack you know, allegedly cooking the bracket to get you guys to play Kentucky. This is life and death. Football, like the doctor leaking. So there's so much more. On the one basketball and I think we see that in the victory. Don't look to give North Carolina a little bit of credit here.

You review what they were willing to victory ball fell into the end of it away from the corner that security people doing it. Just before North Carolina located exactly what back talking about, like, let's get the bell out of the Duke that if we win we don't have the kind of flashpoint that happened you know so you they were they were thinking the work but you see that in in football you basketball.

I think because the teams that have seen the rivalry in a much bigger picture and football.

This is could be provoking the beginning of the file economically one game activity, but yelling and drawing thought the place they do, when a couple games get Google are going to be married, but I don't know that there will be any thicker.

Well said Raleigh news and Observer follow his work in the pages of the observer and that news and Observer.com look good to hear from you. I know it's been a busy week and will see you soon.yet that's what the cop no mercy here. You're on the drive with Josh Graham. I think the letter North Carolina Virginia this Saturday to decide the coastal division. Now I enter I understand that rule number one of the coastal division never try to predict, but I feel at this point now where some of the dust settled and we know some of the combatants.

Some of the real contenders here for the division. There are four teams with two losses, but only two of those for have three wins those of the two teams playing each other in Kenya. So by my math. If North Carolina and Virginia. If either one of them wins you're only going to have two conference games remaining which is the.

The smallest amount of margin of error available for any of the teams in the coastal Alexa I think I feel comfortable in saying it.

I'm uncomfortably comfortable to say the winter of Virginia, North Carolina, is going to win the coastal and if I had to pick today which teams going to win Saturday night. I think it's good to be the Tar Heels. Everything is breaking their way. It's a home game. This did you watch this Tar Heel game on Saturday. I listen to bits and pieces of it on the radio was in the car. Mostly we can. It was an excellent game but it struck me when I got to field level. How great the crowd was it's not one of those phony sellouts hair high ticket sold.

You got it. It's a sellout, but we see a lot of open seats know people showed up and they were supporting team out there early and were there in the fourth quarter when North Carolina needed the noise when Duke was driving it, and North Carolina got that stop a chance. A rat picking off the pot.

Pat so it's a home game and that presents an advantage. I think team of destiny applies to North Carolina. Considering the fact they've had seven of their eight games combined, decided by 22 point think about that for a second seven games that are decided by 22 points combined lunacy.

But the coming-out of the winning end of most of their healthier than Virginia Lysol is the best player on the cat there who knows, they really rely on this guy in the second or the like will be a first-round draft pick. But he's out for the remainder of the season and the secondary North Carolina is getting miles will flip back I take Sam. However, Bryce Perkins, I take background over uncle Mendenhall so what else am I missing here Tar Heels at home.

I think they're gonna win. I think the ability representing the coastal division in the ACC championship game. I think were going to get the rematch of North Carolina Clemson in Charlotte for the ACC.if Virginia doesn't win this year. I don't think they ever will.

They there still room for a lot of chaos like you have Virginia Tech playing Virginia the last week of the regular season the same time. North Carolina is playing NC State.

Imagine that North Carolina trying to go to the ACC cabbage game and they need a way to get NC state to do so. Oh boy that gave Carter Finley Stadium is going to be dramatic. You can tweak the show at sports on triad 336-777-1600's phone number. The drive brought you in part by her friends at pie guys pizza them or pay them a visit in Clemens. You can find them in the Louisville Louisville Clemens Road in the pediment Village Commons Drive grand slam pizza Moravian sugarcane five all good buffalo eggs awesome as well find them online at pie guys.can't. I think if you asked a Carolina fan at the beginning of the year. Would you be fine with Mack Brown's first season appearance in the ACC championship game. I think every single one of us would take that without even thinking twice about how we got the rest of the year.

They should be fine with her. At last you this hoity-toity know you think they'd be all right with ACC cabbage and I know they will be there every single Carolina pain would take that you could check the thing is that I think that something Mildred meaning there somebody out there is to say that the basketball program.

Every now and then they will find themselves winning and ACC championship this past year. They tied with Virginia, even though they lost to Virginia and they shouldn't even be called call themselves coach F7.

If you lose on your home floor to Virginia and your time with Virginia. You should be the ACC basketball chapter should appeal to call yourself that what we were that the football team when they get to that point. Maybe I'll start caring about its up to you what you know I'll just listen to the game on the radio without watch it on television and I'm not to go to the North Carolina football game until all the championship game when they stuck people college football playoff title that's that's when I'll be there one I'm missing your screenshot from ACC.com where they recognize both of them is ready to go with them will not to yes they won more games than they did last year, and that's all fine, but we had low expectations for the football team to begin with so all that were super excited that they they've been competitive is the one thing I said when the season started.

I was hoping to be competitive. Don't be that team last year, just like their militant and even though they've lost a lot of close games been competitive to get a Wii game took on a football game time and free tickets busy man, just like time free tickets. That's didn't take much to get down there but fit like snuggly fitment schedule you if I have to pay for its like a tickets for Carolina game going is not simply pay for care that I mean it's probably about $10 $10 $10 you could probably find yourself into that state probably not sure about pursuing. It's in my budget to get over there for $10.

Actually not sure whether it's Rod Funderburk. Actually, the season-ticket holder to graduate from so I have to see him later with him to what you know. Only those of the competing for the conference championships. The team you want to have a standard tear over the Tar Heels to be Duke done for me that's just as good as like price of a container great proponent of two whopper combos man there something else I'm very fired up about. I'm really upset about this like it's the thing that may be most upset this week and there's no question about it, the alphabet song has been altered. It has been changed. And if you don't know what I'm talking about. We all know the song, but it's been turned into something different and I have no idea why we changed here is that song that has been changed from what we knew from our child will be seen and I and and and you see you deli you and why the end like no, now I know my ABC's next up would you sing with who they changed it. I want a fist fight. Whoever it is in the streets to be accepted now this is a paying no who so determines what the things I don't understand why this is except about his method is best not even 777-1600 we all play along with the element OP all do that. But this saga did not. It did something completely different, if totally went up the wall and went ape bleep. I'm trying to clarify the element OP part is life ruining and will follow you leap off no that is not even thought this one does not seem to some of my daughter to help her go to sleep and heal his educational are what I get element OP is coming fast. It might sound like a word. Whatever slow it down for but you had to say hello me all element OP all came out okay. Missing a letter and awful is it's not a good song. It's not a good concept. My the only one that the loan being infuriated by this 336-777-1600.

I have a feeling we can start an army the same way. There's people going to storm area 51 saying that if there's enough of us, then we can run faster than their bullets. We can get a large enough group together to push against this crowd think it's too hard to say element. Okay you have to. What were you drinking like when we're sitting there one type of beverage are you drinking to be like you know what needs to be changed. The ABC song needs be changed in a way that's new for all the new millennial.there the end of the first. Toby McGuire Spider-Man where is like passed out and he's in the. The reason the train that Spider-Man one or Spider-Man two goblin going after him. Think it's too he's about to obtain Spider-Man whose passed out. Where will her 20-year-old movie and everybody in the truck yet to get through me yet to get through me to get through me.

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