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February 27, 2020 6:01 pm

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February 27, 2020 6:01 pm

On this edition of The Drive with Josh Graham Darin Gantt shares his disdain for the NFL combine, Tom Brady's realistic landing spots, and the Hornets dream draft pick. 

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We jampacked this afternoon. Let me start with my favorite standup comics. I loved Gary Goldman for years and one of the special I remember the joke. I love the 80s but I hate VH1 I love the 80.

I have a similar feeling towards the NFL draft.

I've always loved college football in the NFL. So naturally I'm a big fan of the draft. However I think it's a joke. The draft gets moved around city to city now, and I hate that starting tonight the scouting combine is being moved into prime time. The NFL is discussed discussing rather than making this just a four or five day event with all the on-field drills they want to stretch it out over two weeks and put it all in prime time and move the draft from work. She's been the combine from Indianapolis to several different locations.

All of that laughable to me.

The NFL combine is a lot like prom.

There's a lot of buildup but it's always a letdown.

Everything's affront both of the combine.

Edit prom. I don't know what prom stories you may have Robert that we could share or if we've already done this segment before Sawyer, Dylan, these of the control room as well. How many years removed from prom.

Are you Sawyer one year, maybe six months, three years okay three years removed from prom enter now turned into a assistant producer on the show. He is the young. He represents the very young demographic that we have here on Twitter at sports of dry at 336-777-1600. Everything's affront for the prospect you get caught up to try and impress a team you get to the draft or get to keep Sandra but I mean the combine in Indianapolis. It's on national TV.

It's being put into prime time. So a lot of people were to be paying attention because NFL following its ravenous everything that the NFL cells or tries to sell we buy even a schedule release where we know all the opponents already.

They put that in prime times and all will tell you what specific dates they're going to be playing it doesn't matter if it's already leaked by local reporters know were still good to put it in prime time. Everybody's gonna watch even though we know the opponents and probably even though the games by the time the telecast happens work in a nationally televised preseason games. What else is left for the NFL to broadcast in prime time genuinely asking because they put the draft in prime time when that used to be an afternoon deal.

They put the Hall of Fame ceremony in prime time when that used to be an afternoon deal. Dave taken the combine and put it in prime time. The schedule release put it in prime time. What else is left for them to do the buildup is everything here. There's more buildup then there is substance kinda like prom when you get all dressed up trying to impress your date it's been built up for weeks in school only got a theme you get there. Everybody else's dress nice, but it's just a massive bomber.

Most of the attendees both at the draft and it prom don't even want to be there.

In both instances, most of the people just want to be drunk or eating a steak, usually the ones that want to attend the event are the nerds dancing on the floor first.

The players were like I'm really excited to compete in the NFL. What I have nerd you think Joe Burroughs excited about the combine, do you think Chase young once to answer questions from all these reporters and have medical staff members picked and brought him and sit in a room with six or seven different teams to be asked a bunch of questions just to try and see if he gets agitated. I don't think so.

So who's really excited about being at the combine nerds man I'm looking at the store that right. Thompson wrote last year you got GM's team presidents telling right they don't want to send people to the draft any longer.

They don't know if there's any value. Once again, Robert Dingle Bell every single time you have a bell sound Dingle Bell every time I say the draft instead of combine by apologies for that.

They don't want to send people to the combine anymore.

They don't know if there's any good at it that comes from it. You got Michael Lombardi saying in a book hat 40% of quarterbacks taken in the first or second round turned out to have a productive career. 40% of quarterbacks taken in the first or second round in his definition of production career productive career is people starting for three years in the week so I mean if it's that kind of random, then why are we sending so many people. The Indianapolis to expense these dinners and these social events.

If you don't even know you're going to get good players. As a result, but none of these. GM's are to speak publicly. None of these team presidents are to speak publicly, why would that the NFL do you think they have a shoe with that I think so. You try to sell something on national TV and you have GM's and team president saying yeah I don't know if there's anything to this kind a like prom.

It's all about the after party, isn't it, at least in my case. Yeah that's all I care about worldly action happens for the combine that's where the info is collected. Reporters that they they talk to sources teams continue talking talking about trades what's happening with cam Newton what's happening with Tom Brady. So yeah, there's got to be news that comes out, but it's not to be on the field with body doing the, the 40 yard dash Charlie Haack from North Carolina is a go to create headlines with his cone thrill know it's is a collection of people together. What's crazy is reporters who go to attend the event and you got thousands that are there aren't even allowed to watch the on-field drills. Not even welcome and to do that which is also crazy, but the after party. That's where all the actions I don't know how late the after parties get to go now. The everything to prime time 4 PM to 11 PM the next couple of days but with prom. That was the end goal you are talking about dancing you're talking about figuring out who's mom was cool enough to buy alcohol or which friend of yours has a fake ID.

I was it that was the mission back when you were in high school. I'm down for taking bad prom stories on Twitter at sports of dried 336-777-1600. I don't think I had a good prom experience junior year dating Sabina didn't go to my school while that's probably a stretch. I asked someone to prom but didn't go to my school and then a few weeks later, she said yeah dating somebody was 25 now and he said he'd beat you up if if I went to prom with you, so it's probably not a good idea for me to go to prom with you.

Could he come to like it. He beat her. +1 that would be interesting. I don't know. I don't know if the small charter school public charter school I went to would be complete cool with that and then my senior year I asked somebody to go and then she got busted with a bottle of liquor and backpack a week before prom and they let her go.

Still, but her parents said that they were going to drive her to and from which wasn't exactly awesome so no live blogging for you not Dan Bonner to join us in about 20 minutes ACC legend longtime ACC broadcaster plated Virginia the Cavaliers they get a big win last night he had Clark hitting a big shot in Blacksburg and will talk about that game and just a bit, but lower spending time on the NFL. While I think cam Newton is going to get moved in this week's been all about cleanup duty damage control for Matt ruling Carolina sand that he's good to be the quarterback for the Panthers come September. Let me tell you what I hope happens.

I grew up Panthers fan in recent years not very emotionally attached to the team since I started covering the team but I'm pro interesting which reads I want cam Newton the return if I had it my way selfishly speaking here. I want cam on Carolina because there aren't many athletes we've seen in the league that are as polarizing as camp. I think the only quarterback in the last decade we've seen is Tom Brady on the polarity scale. He might be the most polarizing athlete we've ever seen in this state's history. The outfits his style of play. His comments there are few quarterbacks you can't miss their postgame press conference. Just because of the content mine. It is cam Newton is one of those quarterback also. He's the most productive option available for 2020 that you might remember I said there are better alternatives for the long-term future for Carolina available Philip Rivers short-term contract you commit to get the draft capital in exchange for cam Newton Teddy Bridgewater probably would be more productive, less of a gamble for the long haul since he's 27 years old cans.

A gamble, but if he's as healthy as the Panthers think these get a big he's the most productive option. Philip Rivers.

He's a statue behind that off it's one that's I can work out well in 2020, Teddy Bridgewater.

He's not very mobile as well. And if campus helping again a gamble.

Give me cam's productivity over Bridgewater's this coming season. Lastly, it would be sad in the Panthers greatest quarterbacks tenure the way it has transpired the last two years. It shouldn't go out with the Panthers making the decision to move off of cam when he still has a couple of years left in the tank at least given Jake the loan after throwing the six or seven techs having all those turnovers in the playoff game against the Cardinals got the contract and got another opportunity to redeem himself and even though he didn't the Panthers have never had a quarterback as good as cam never had an MVP winner before cam.

It almost feels like the right thing to do the right way for this story to end is for cam to get a shot with this new staff led by Matt rule, whether or not that happens will continue to follow if I had to bet the day I think the Pampers move off of cam bought if you're asking me what I would like to see happen personally, professionally, I want to see cam playing for the Panthers at least another season coming up. The college basketball star that would be the Hornets dream pick in the lottery this summer were looking ahead to the MVA draft next on the draft. Josh Graham loves to talk sports. He also loves to wear if she close, so he has an excuse to scratch himself. You're on the drive with Josh Graham this is a very strong to be a draft we have coming up this summer. Since we do a lot of college basketball around here in the Charlotte hornet. There expected to be picking pretty high in the lottery, I want to jump ahead and start looking at dream scenario for Charlotte. Let's say they have the number one or number two pick in the draft who is the player you'd most like to see playing in a Hornets uniform because for me I think it's: Anthony still I think Cole is the Hornets dream option, not OB, top, and it Dayton was had an excellent season, not even James Wiseman who left Memphis early. Both those guys big men Charlotte that gotten their fair share of big men the last few years with PJ Washington and Miles Bridges.

I think it's time for Charlotte to its to draft the store point guard because seven of the last eight lottery pics for Charlotte have been forwards Moncton not Moncton but bridges in Washington.

They been the hits, the Mrs. have been no Yvonne lay Cody Zeller who still on the roster. Frank Kaminski those of been the Mrs. Michael kick Gilchrist wasn't quite Anthony Davis being picked second in that draft behind the New Orleans pelicans. Of course, but seven of the last eight lottery pics have been forwards and that monk guy a week, month, he was the only guard of the bunch. He wasn't picked in the top 10.

The last top 10 guard the Hornets took Kimball Walker in 2011 ninth overall.

And rest assured: Anthony is a stall. It's not hard to spot.

You don't have to justify but his dad's Greg Anthony has all this flair going into college. He has flair when he speaks, he's confident he's mature is probably the thing I'm get a value the most. In a draft that's pretty thin. I'm going to value maturity.

Zion had it last year John Moran had it. RJ Barrett had some of it wasn't quite as mature as the top two, and I think that's a difference in how prepared the first two were versus the latter in their rookie season situation.

Of course, plays into that as well. But all Anthony. He's a mature guy. I learned a lot from him in the way that he decided to return to North Carolina.

Despite the fact the team was struggling. There's a lot to learn from.

In fact, I take this is an interesting question ask who would you take today: Anthony or Kobe white 336-777-1600 on Twitter at sports have tried because I'd take Cole today over Kobe understanding that Kobe has had this string of terrific games in the MBA. My issue with Kobe white going into the week. I didn't think he was very mature and also he didn't have a diverse skill set. He's not very big.

He's he's an excellent shooter and a great score but defensively he didn't have much he didn't bring anything in rebounding coal has a diverse skill set, shooting, driving, rebounding. He's going to be a lot better of the defender. In fact he's improved a lot since the beginning of the year. Don't let North Carolina's record for you basketball people. They could see through it: Anthony is a store, he would be the Hornets dream draft pick if he's available wherever there picking Charlotte lucks out the way the pelicans lucked out in getting the number one pick a getting Zion I think they draft coal over OB top and over James Wiseman over that shooting guard out of Georgia over lamella lowball give me call Anthony. I think that is the dream pick for Charlotte. He become the face of the team around a good young core.

I just think about this backcourt you got Terry Rozier who you could trade away. It's not a great contract but he averages 17 and five a game. 17.5 rebounds. Excuse me points of today, you can move that contract. Somebody will take that contract when you talk about $17 million and the guy who averages 17.5 points a game, but if you keep on… They Graham: Anthony and Terry Rozier who can handle the basketball with the 3B and combo guards plain bacon is shown good signs before being sent down to the G league on a stent in which he's been dominant of late PJ Washington Miles Bridges so I like what Charlotte is building and I think Mitch Kupchak and James Borrego have showed a shown us enough with the players that they have drafted for us to rely on these people to make a solid pick. They took bridges they took Washington those of the only two first-round picks we've seen from JB and Mitch and their time with the Hornets. This is a rich trove situation so this could be a very important picture Charlotte. They just need the stop. Winning is much as they are beating the New York Knicks last night on Twitter at sports on dry at 336-777-1600 is the phone number were to be joined by Dan Bonner, former Virginia Cavalier ACC television legend in about 10 minutes time speaking to Virginia to get the win last night and one scares trait in college basketball this year that Virginia possesses that many other teams do not is reliability.

It's one of the most important things to me. Robert, you know me about as well as anybody in radio if I say I'm going to be somewhere.

Odds are on their 1015 minutes early. I'm always there if you try to call me. Odds are I pick up or I'm gonna call you back.

510 minutes time a pretty quick text or I am reliable and that's one of my biggest assets is one of the most important things to me. If I don't show up somewhere.

I Sam to be at. Call the police called the National Guard something's gone wrong same file Virginia if Virginia doesn't show up if Virginia gets waxed loan out in a game. Something's gone terribly wrong because it doesn't happen. They are consistent in style and their consistent with their effort.

They only have one bad boss this year. One loss that was decided by a dozen or more points and that was a loss at Purdue and it should be remembered Braxton key didn't play in that game. He was injured.

He injured his wrist and that so I was way back on December 4, their consistent in style and consistent with their effort. They have four guys who have hidden massive shots in their career to be relied on to hit a big shot malady dear Keith, I had the most important job Virginia history against Purdue vaulting last year and he had Clark had the assist he had Clark at the game-winning shot last night and the final three seconds a dagger three North Carolina fans know what Thomas Bullington size capable of Wake Forest man solid as well. They halted a corner three against weight that was important.

These are guys that many of them are on the team last year who had been a big games seem big moment hit big shot.

How many guys on Duke.

Do you trust to hit a big shot Trey Jones and Trey Jones great team do better team the Virginia just not as reliable. Louisville I like a lot of players on the team but I haven't seen Rye McMahon hit the big shot in the game. David Johnson even for tomorrow to a degree Virginia they been battle tested for guys who are key players in the championship team returning I Mitch dear Keith, damaging half. He had Clark keys another one. He was the leading rebounder on Virginia a year ago. How's this for numbers though Virginia displayed a lot of one possession.

Games it's not just that tournament run.

They went on last year where they had all those wicked close games overtime against Texas Tech. The free throws from Kyle guy at the end of the Auburn game Perdue a scare in the opener against Gardner Webb in the 16 one. Those guys experience that. But this year they played 71 possession games to record six and one.

How about we widen things a little bit more make it to possessions games decided by six points or less Virginia title 11 of those games. They are nine into that is reliable. You don't see a lot of reliable in college basketball this season. That something I value. I'm not saying Virginia it's going to go on a run like last year.

They don't have the talent they did with Diane Hunter and hi Jerome bought.

They do have a lot of ask.

It's at key spots. They had those four key players from that team. Their battle tested and there reliable, consistent style consistent effort.

So Virginia as a team to keep an eye on when you're filling out your bracket. As I mentioned Dan Bonner he went to Virginia as covered the league for over 30 years.

What will be the biggest story heading into the ACC tournament in Greensboro two weeks from now and Bonner with Telus next on the drive by as we continue our shake for the truth is Sawyer the bottom of the cereal box got your on a drive with Josh Gray sports hub triad Dan Bonner them. One of the best on the ACC in all of college basketball for a very long time is good to be on the call for Michigan Ohio State on Sunday, but in my book.

He's an ACC legend and in the triad were very excited about the return of the ACC tournament to Greensboro. It's returning in a little less than two weeks for the first time in five years and Dan there are a lot of storylines going into this tournament. North Carolina to be playing on a Tuesday for the first time you have. To get some of the other things here.

The obvious return to Greensboro nine A.D.'s currently at played in place of the ACC have never stepped foot in the Greensboro Coliseum and it's been a bit of an uneven year in all of college basketball. But especially the ACC so maybe things are right for a shocker. What you thinks the biggest story heading into the ACC tournament while Josh goes a really interesting thing nine A.D. have never set foot in the Greensboro Coliseum. That's amazed crazy right yes. Courts are 38 teams in the go I know, I think the biggest story going in to the tournament is the same thing. It is every year. I like the fact that were when I was in school. That's where the target always was so great coursework feels like home to me for the ACC tournament, although I understand their desire to move the well but Greensboro is always a place that felt like home to me. I think this story is the same as it is every year and that is who, if anybody is going to be able to play their way into the ANCA tournament at the ACC term and NC State is one of the teams that it looks like that sort of beating you later in the regular season with the few games left probably needs to make some noise in Greensboro. Love Jill and Arty on the show a little bit later on. But what needs to happen. You think for the pack. How many wins in order for you to feel comfortable saying the rent. Well, you know I got very good question, Joel and Arty got invented all the off I get. If you take your call from his mom's basement to live, along with all the other guys. I hope there's food in their lives like is there for loser drinks and all those guys who do that. Come up with all those numbers you know you one of those things were North Carolina state has put themselves in position where they can play their way in or play their way out in the easiest way to play your way in is to win as many games as possible. I think obviously would really help them to be again which would be a very difficult task in their other games. I think they play PIP and it escapes me her roles they played with their two winnable game but that doesn't mean they're going to live that they can't afford double down the stretch here in the regular season and they would be very well advised to at least with a couple in Greensboro, but even if they do, they're going to be right at the bottom of the pack, a bottom of the list of people who might get in and they could be very subject to bid dealers from other leaks because there will be team and other conferences who want most women who do and will take a bit away from a team like empty so they are in a position that I don't and Dan Bonner with this year on sports hub triad watching Sunday Michigan Ohio State does great work college basketball analysis for CBS sports also for ACC network. Which of things to Virginia. Your Virginia guidance were you with the school. As you mentioned last night to get the win in key hey Clark, it's a big shot. I think you're getting overlooked a little bit damn when you consider they have a trait that scarce in today's college basketball reliability they've played in 71 possession games there six and one in those and they are nine into an games decided by six points or less. I'm looking at guys hitting big shots like the acute day J Huff you got key hey Clark you Gottwald intends I was been big at times.

These are guys who can hit big time shots and approve it this year. Their battle tested in my mind. What do you think Virginia's ceiling is this year, you know, I think it has been an amazing year for Virginia.

I think Tony Bennett has done a great job developing that name. And that's something that in this day and age of college basketball with the waving. We measure things with all these metrics that we use. We basically the teams be really good right out of it. If you're not that there's something wrong with you and so I think that Virginia has actually developed their team. I think they have overcome that the criticism body of the lot by 29 points at Purdue and at the time that was like a big disaster but it was a big disaster for Michigan state when they lost 29 points at Purdue or for Iowa when they lost by 36 points at Purdue and so, when and all those close games. I think has gotten Virginia pass that narrative now people talk about wow they're really good and close games and Josh.

They've only played in the conference. They played 17 games that only click wargame that they have been the result of the decisive weather hasn't been any question down in the last couple possession. Of course they lost by a large margin to Syracuse but that was an overtime game.

They fell by more than one possession at Louisville but that was a game where they were actually ahead with three minutes go so given the fact that they play. Somebody calls game they could just as easily instead of being 12 and five Digby 413 Digby 17 oh their defense is good enough that they can win every game they play there often is bad enough that they lose every game they play them so I think that if I was a Virginia fan that I would really have to have my blood pressure medication with me about.

I watch them play.

Maybe the same for Duke as well because when they're playing outside of Cameron indoor Stadium to get off to rocky starts just like they did against Boston College and North Carolina and at NC State last week I was at the game in Winston-Salem and of course they lose in double overtime to Danny Manning's bunch coach K he's talked about after the game that this team he he's hoped that they would mature, they would get older, quicker than they have. When you look at a team that loses to Stephen F. Austin seems to be unreliable.

Playing away from home. What are your concerns for the blue Devils as they look ahead to Mark. I'm not sure that there unreliable when they play away from home. I don't know that I did that game against Stephen F.

Austin Stephen F.

Austin Stephen F.

Austin looked like an old. Talk group of guys claim against the budget. And that's exactly what it looked like a Duke wins that game if they just make a couple of free throws.

So II didn't get in a panic that a lot of people did about that game. It in terms of getting mature. Well you can get mature and you can get some experience, but most for most of the key players that was their first time playing in front of the crowded North Carolina that was their first time playing in front of the crowd and North Carolina State and against the desperate North Carolina state team is our first time born on the road at Wake Forest. You know, there are three North Carolina rivals.

There's a lot going on there and that was their first time hearing thing that that those various places so okay, maybe they should watch the game, but I just don't doesn't affect me. I think they're very good team have a chance to make a deep run into the NC tournament team.

Sometimes they struggled during the course of the year. I don't think there's anything to worry about. It's good to be such a wild tournament. Can't wait for it all. Get started in the in Greensboro for the ACC tournament two weeks from the day were to be seeing the top four seeds play in the ACC tournament in Greensboro. Then of course it's the big dance which for us is fittingly going to start in Greensboro as well.

First and second round action and look forward to watching you on Sunday.

Thank you for squeezing in the time that I really appreciate that you got it.

That's Dan Bonner ACC legend from CBS and the ACC network. We got our weekly ACC rankings one through 15 up@accsports.com and there's a lot of agreement between David Glenn Brian Geisinger and myself we go one through 15. We all have Florida State is the number one team BG has Duke second, while median DG have Louisville second the top three coming we know who they are, Virginia for this is where it gets kinda sad so it's a stay right there at 500 and they are the fifth best team in the eye sees it, but all three of us agree benefit vesting. Then at some combination of Syracuse and Notre Dame and after that God knows I could tell you about the bottom five and really there start to be some shakeup there.

DG's dead set that Boston College is terrible on the 14th but they actually have a pretty good coverage record. Believe it or not Boston College I have them 11th Wake Forest.

They still have 14 Deacon Vance probably not a big fan of that but larger sample versus smaller sample MRA so if you want to check out the ACC rankings for Brian Geisinger myself, David, Glenn one through 15 you combine that on my twitter page at Josh Graham radio also find that@accsports.com all right. I want to return things to the NFL scouting combine I feel like I'm obligated to do that a bit before we do that, I can see Tom Brady playing in three places and three places on I'll tell you what those next destinations are next in life and try the minds of the heart the bar with Josh Graham sports hub triad. I love the NFL, doubting combine but Robert our executive producer on the other side of the glass seems to love it and he keeps peppering me with 40 times BN ran by titans. I've never heard of. So this is what I want to do bearing gaps now joining us. One of our favorite guests and pro football talk.com after every single one of Darren's answers. Robert, I just want you to give me, give the audience a sense of what I've been dealing with during the commercial breaks and just tell me the name of the tide in and give me his 40 time as the scouting combine has been put in prime time. It just started in the last 30 minutes. Darren, how goes it. Happy scouting combine day yeah hello printed it little ridiculous. It will be honest with you playing stop being about football evaluation a long time ago. The PV inventory. Now that's the real early afternoon and evening is because the league wants you more eyeballs on the network and you know I'm sure all the evaluators were used to start this process at 9 AM so they could do interview. Good night great year with their colleagues are, disturbed by the fact that their beer drinking is being put on hiatus for a few hours, but I am sure the gang crime is is still taking care of business there after hours because as we all know that the true function of scouting, Albert okay got the fella's name who I could not pronounce earlier he just ran the fourth fastest tidy in time since 2003 with a 449 what's the appeal, Darren of this being put in prime time. We talked about the draft being moved and I don't really know.

It's a great television show, the draft and I like the draft but the idea of it being a spectacle sport is a funny idea to me. But what's the appeal of the combine you'd have to have somebody else I wouldn't consume a lot of this if I wasn't being paid to. I don't think the 4 yard dashes and Stephanie listen if you get little fat cows running past 40 that I enjoy watching Olympic track of me watching fast people run fast is interesting and I'll do that for a little while but I guess it's kind of like watching the exit fail you just have to love local low football to consume this product.

Year-round it, and ultimately that the Nichols goal is to keep their product on the minds of their customers. The entire calendar so rather than passing up the opportunity for somebody to watch college football hey let's give them this to look at him and will put some three cone drills on TV and they'll be really excited about. Under Bryant, the Washington tidy and just ran a 46 Darren Gant with the pro football talk.com so I'm conflicted on what I heard from Matt rule earlier in the week. Did you sense damage control with his comments or sincerity on the Panthers had coach saying that cam is absolutely good to be a panther this year. I don't take anything Matt rule set is meeting absolutely anything and I know I'm not saying there's no. And cannonball tear, but the only honest answer to any question about cam Newton the Carolina Panthers in 2020, can only be I don't know, and I understand that nation nature abhors a vacuum and I don't know is the worst possible answer to give on any topic in our hashtag content driven culture by nobody knows right now the Panthers don't know if he's well enough to play in June or August or September that Panthers don't know if he's willing to take a physical for another team who might be interested in trading for him stock right now and it's a bad time to be stuck in that position because you know you're walking into the most waterlogged market for quarterbacks that we never had Tom Brady to create create James Winston Marcus Mary outerwear wanted to minute drafter free-agent Carolina guys out there who can fill a lot of jobs in the Panthers might be a quick cam Newton at the moment and unable to move him. That being said, being stuck with cam Newton ain't the worst thing in the world of cam Newton Camden again and if he's healthy and if he's well then there a lot worse fate for Matt rule in his first year as a head coach than walking into an offense with candidate Chris McCaffrey and BJ Moore who sent Kelly to have to win games they don't have the kind of personnel and defense to be competitive. Right now, and if cam Newton's gone there not to be competitive. But if you have to go into the season with cam as your quarterback and then figure out contract stuff later.

You know there were spots to be, since he tidy and took his time in the 40 Don Wood Anderson running for a five so I do like I love the way that 485 in the Porteous precedent slot faster than anybody reading or listening to the radio show Kinross. I think a foot race is working. Charlotte where they get yard – course and I went out there will be fine. Take the kids out there run around.

I need to win or something that happened something on the board. Now granted I would find more training you don't understand how fast the five and 40 yard dash is unless you're one of the people that can do it, and those are not many will be Parkinson look in the slow 246. I couldn't do a 483 45 fell out of an airplane. I wish somebody would just beyond. They don't know we can.

David Tepper tried to do that. But here's the thing with Tapper is a guy who never is back down any uncomfortable subject in any way. He's going to talk about nondisclosure agreements in his first press conference he's going to talk about or the lack there of. He's going to talk about MLS when that's not a thing, and a lot of things have to happen in order for it to take place. He doesn't mind talking about the stadium.

He doesn't mind saying that kneeling football players are patriotic but it was a really surreal but interesting image that have Tapper against those lockers in that locker room, not wanting to really expound on anything regarding his quarterback so I wonder how did you interpret peppers comments paired with possibly related incidents. Cam on his Instagram saying all I want is commitment and Tapper sending a letter to PSL owners, which the crux of the message was we need to tear down before we rebuild yeah I don't think there was accident on campus part it all and that's where the tricky situation.

There you know they've got a human being to manage his swelling and camps like the other kids, he can be high maintenance. Most quarterbacks are MVP level can be but it's a tricky situation because cam and I don't mean this particularly about Canadair Roger Aaron Rodgers would not want to be going into the final year of his contract coming off an injury without any security. I think any quarterback with that stature within a similar spot if Matt Ryan in Atlanta was in a contract year and coming off an injury he would want a little security to soak this up. In particular, the camera can't not a bad guy because he wants to stop but it does leave a little man management for Matt rule to handle and I think that is much of anything is what I took out his comments this week is when he said on the coach my job to pick up the guys, I've got and even though we all know Matt ruled that the run of the building and now I'm not saying he's actually the GM but he's going to be the guy who makes the decisions that he's able to stand back and take yeah I want to work with you. I got my when I want to work with all court can look great in football. Why would you want to work with a guy like that so it's natural that he says that but there is a lot of work going on behind the scenes to manage some peeling thing to keep people yet I want on the same side of the boat so to speak, because it is could go sideways in a hurry. I mean all it would take it cam feelings are really hurt and in June he says I don't think you're really stuck because then this entire market gone and Tom Brady found a new home built records found a new home. Maybe James Winston has to everybody get paid.

And if you get to June or August anything I come in without a new contract that the problem right now they just trying to push and avoid installing hope and then become one downright the often forgotten LSU tidy and Stephen Sullivan said some fleet feet run in a 464 Darren damp with us from pro football talk.com is on twitter at Darren Gant.

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You're also waiting for Gilbert's 40 times since we've gotten Sullivan.

It also somebody who is a Hall of Fame Boner about her as we discussed, and in addition to that might be Nostradamus as well because I asked you what show you would like to see next on the Bank of America Stadium lineup that we've seen in recent years include Billy Joel in recent months. It's going to start with Billy Joel and many other star acts are going to be going to Bank of America Stadium. You said you'd like to see the Rolling Stones and apparently David Tepper and company might've been listening yeah. Either that or I might've been listening to something I heard earlier like that one about think could be, I got my tickets tonight swallowed hard and and wrote a car payment to go see Nick and Keith and the boys on July 1 to be worth it. I mean, I would. I would hate to think that I would look at that amount of money if something happened to the goats down the road and I regret not seeing that last show in Charlotte so you not swallowed hard, but take it that that's one of those it, it's the stone you stop worrying about about the amount of money you paid for that ticket the minute they get the first liquor store mail CJ O'Grady's Arkansas side and just ran a 474 Darren appreciate you spending time with us. In addition to you bringing insight. Robert brought you some during the segment as well. So maybe a change in speed. There I feel like we all learn something new today. Thank you, Darren, Dale, that's Darren damp from pro football.com NBC Sports joining us and he seems to have similar feelings about the NFL scouting combine to me Why the scouting combine really reminds me of prom oh prom. If you're on the drive support so triad process pre-k priority oversight County high school athlete of the week so we nominated high school athletes will be recognized for their