Run through a commencement face (3/3/20)

This is dry when Josh Graham drive. This support is very nothing better than big for ACC basketball and more. It's Wake Forest, North Carolina tonight in the Smith Center that came in a few minutes.

Also, Hall of Famer Max Brown will be here in 30 minutes but let me start with Duke NC State last night felt like the packs best shot at securing an NCAA tournament bid. It was their last shot at feeling comfortable on selection Sunday and thus was a massive missed opportunity into a state for the entire first chapter, practically, was dictating the game.

I didn't think Duke would get off to a sluggish start at home. NC state was given a gift by the blue Devils because it times the blue Devils looked sorry for themselves.

They looked out of character. NC State much like the first meeting the 22 point when it PNC arena was getting to the bucket, Markel Johnson, Devin, Daniel, CJ, Bryce, they combined for 24 points in the first half alone.

Meanwhile, Duke like the plan transition.

They like to hang there On defense yet they're given up 36 points in the first 18 minutes there only getting to the free-throw line 4 times and not getting any transition fast break points.

It was very surprising that Duke was having issues at home doing the things that they've done so well. All throughout the year. Here were the two major differences in the game there were two things that decided NC State number one the final minute and change of the first keep noting 18 minutes because everything changed once NC State went up 36 to 30 Duke they get a mess they missed the shot unwanted to the floor offense of rebound, though they had a pun of them in this game, 16 or 18. On the entire ballgame and that leads to a put back 36, 32 NC State. On the other side.

This is a shot, then you get a reach in over the back file that sends Vernon Carey to the free-throw line.

He's eight rate for the line of the game. He hits two foul shots it's 36, 34 NC State has about 45, 40 seconds left in the game so you're probably thinking two-for-one get a bucket so that way no matter what Duke does on its final possession of the half you get another chance to score while it's stated something like that in mind, but got a little bit too aggressive. Jordan Goldwater pulls away the basketball it's a steel and on the other hand, it's a basket. The game is tied at 3636 NC State can get the final shot essentially of the second half they get a shot with 10 seconds left. It's a mess. Duke has enough time to go all the way up the floor window mortgage found its two free throws and all of the sudden NC State which was dictating this game in Cameron indoor Stadium was leaving it by six points scoring on the 11th best scoring defense in college basketball 36 points in your trailing at halftime. That was the major difference of the game. The first major difference, like a bunch of us to another half a basketball. The boy, the second difference. Robert, this is gonna sound ridiculous get ready for coach K taken off his jacket. You could tweak the shell exports of dryad 336-777-1600 is the phone number. This is probably the best that I'm going to give you all day today.

Are you ready for this Robert far away after coach K removed his jacket on the Duke upset with something he saw what this team. Duke scored on 17 consecutive possessions after K takes off the jacket 17 straight points. It almost seems like scary Duke is only summoned home like when I say scary Duke. I mean you're tossing logs for Cash's family and he's looking like Zion Williamson or Vince Carter out there that while Betty had the tomahawk slam was out of this world. Duke playing in transition. Everybody's excited. The buildings very loud.

It takes something strange to summon that Zion Williamson when nobody expects him to be in the building. He shows up. Duke goes on a 22 to 6 Ron or whatever it was against Notre Dame a few weeks ago, very late, we learned that somebody was expected to play for Miami or Wake Forest. Does it Duke recognizes that seasonal weakness and like sharks sensing blood in the water. They just feast on last night was coach K removing his jacket. He's 72, 73 years old. He doesn't have many moves is told us this before, but you can't do a cartwheel or anything. So what he could do is walk up to the scores table tell him to turn the music very loudly.

Or he could remove his jacket and be very upset at his guys try to challenge them. That's what he did last night and it seemed to have effective results now for NC State's NCAA tournament case I don't trust the pack to win two in a row, let alone three. I think in order to be comfortable on selection Sunday. Maybe not comfortable feel very good about your case. You gotta win three. Gotta be Wake Forest guy when you're first ACC tournament game, and you probably have to when your next game which would likely require you to be either Duke, Louisville, Florida State or Virginia that would have you securely enter the tournament in my mind if you win just to I think projects and projections will have you there.

Maybe you get, but it feels very similar to the place state was a year ago and we know NC State make it and they weren't even on the first four left out. Also, NC State hasn't won three straight ACC games this year.

They've only one back to back ACC games. One time, doesn't it just feel like Wake Forest Friday night at PNC arena has disaster written all over it like how worried are you NC State fan about Friday night like I can already hear how NC State fan is thinking at the moment. Like I know what you're feeling after watching your team blow that lead in the first half, but Friday night how worried are you about Wake Forest and Wake Forest that want to see change in their program at head coach. How worried are you that the demon deacons might continue going on a run and maybe save Danny Manning's job. It's an interesting place to be in the big for right now. 36 777-1600 and on Twitter at sports of dry speaking of the demented. This might be the most compelling Wake Forest, North Carolina matchup in over a decade. Here's the historical significance of tonight's game. 7 o'clock tip at the Smith Center wake has never swept Roy Williams in a season series last time wake swept the Tar Heels was 2003 was Matt Doherty's final year at the home also. Wake Forest has it beat North Carolina in the Smith Center since 2010. The last time Roy Williams of course didn't make the NCAA tournament. Wake Forest likens a state hasn't won three ACC games in a row this year. In fact, they didn't win three ACC games in a row last year or the year before that get to go back to John Collins team in 2017. The last time Wake Forest has 13 consecutive ACC games they could do that tonight with a wet both teams. This is why the games compelling. Both teams are on level ground. When you look at the ACC stand there both at the bottom of the standings, but both teams are playing their best basketball of the season, respectively, but geeks beat Duke first time Danny management in the blue Devils did so in double overtime at the jewel. Then they took care of business against Notre Dame. Another team right now that's ranked in the top half of the ACC stand and that game was pretty convincing. I was there last Saturday.

North Carolina meanwhile we had Jones Angel on the show yesterday. He believes Saturday at Syracuse was the best game: Anthony's plate this year. I'd make the argument. It was the best in North Carolina's plate all year long that the best opponent Dave Beaton. They beat Oregon in November and the Bahamas, but going on the road to ceric and again that was significant to them last home game before they renovate the Carrier Dome, Tom Brady, Julian Edelman and Jimmy Fallon are sitting courtside.

It was a game that mattered to the yard in North Carolina built off of the game they closed against NC State: Anthony was tremendous, but also Garrison Brooks over the last five games is essentially been averaging a double double with 20+ points in each of those games he's been awesome Christine Kulik averaging 13 points over the last day. This is the Tar Heel team. What we've seen over the last two games. This is the Tar Heel team that we thought we were going to see in late October when we were picking our ACC preseason rankings preseason poll, North Carolina was picked second, but a win tonight Wake Forest or North Carolina. It would be significant to both sides. North Carolina three straight wins belief heading into the Duke game and Cameron Saturday belief heading into the ACC tournament that you can string together a number of ACC winds and go on a rock Wake Forest the Danny Manning status is one of the more interesting stories. I think were to be following over the next week and 1/2 to get to Greensboro. Is he going to be retained. This is a very significant day for him.

If you beat Duke and sweet North Carolina in the same year and you have optimism in the way of a great roster coming back. It seems like maybe your most talented roster, including that 2017 team coming back to 2000 22,021. I really feel like it is very close right now very close to 50-50 Wake Forest keeping Danny Manning Wake Forest moving on from Danny. After six years of him being the Dick's head coach as I mentioned Hall of Famer Mack Brown to join us in less than 20 minutes but coming up the perfect commencement speaker happens to be a former NFL star and is apparently controversial. According to the Ivy League students. I explained next on the drop the less you expect if Josh ran strong with less you'll be disappointed. You're on the drive with Josh Graham this is maddening. Princeton students are upset that Lori Sean Lynn has been named the school's class beaker this semester their siding how rigid he was with the media getting fined, then arriving Super Bowl week and infamously saying he's here so we just won't get fined by the misstep by a second, but this is crazy to me because I don't remember anybody caring who the class beaker was going to be your commencement speaker at any school ever but apparently it Princeton. It's a big deal so this is a quote that was given in the school newspaper at Princeton, where an op-ed was written displaying some of the angst students have about beast mode coming to school book as seniors we been looking forward to the speaker announcement for months. Many of us were disappointed when we saw that this year speaker was to be Marchand Lynch, mainly because we did not feel included in the process by which this speaker was nominated and finally selected" what kind of life are you leading in college to say seriously that for months you've been waiting to learn who the class speaker was going to be in college. Robert, I don't know about you but we both went to East Carolina University in Greenville America I feel like Marchand would be the perfect class beaker because he checks a lot of the boxes that quite frankly, as far as I know the class beaker. I had did not accomplish number one. He is a celebrity right. I think maybe Linda McMahon was the commencement speaker when I was a senior there but it might've been after I graduated I don't know you don't remember these commencement addresses Robert, did you even go to your commencement address. Yeah I had Linda McMahon. I think it was the year after. Okay so you had Linda McMahon and do you remember anything Linda McMahon said she talked about how her invents Matt and then talked about a little bit about her being a woman in the workplace. This is really support your argument that much snow. Remember, but I'm surprised by that. It's always a plus when there is celebrity goes you know I don't ever remember who my commencement speaker was secondarily the his message. Marchand it would be memorable like let's look at some of the pearls of wisdom beast mode is given us the last decade or so. I just give me something recently that we've obtained from Marchand Lynch so I guided right now to carry out bodies, Lindo take care God shaking for him to go take care your mantles Kahlúa wind lesson alone and hired a couple players play with the coming they no longer here. No mother no longer saw me finish start take care your mantles out bodies and your chicken. We are no walkaway walkaway be able to do what you want to do. That's great advice. Remember that forever Marchand Lynch in a robe told me at my commencement address. Take care of y'all chicken, take care of your mantles and because you're not to be here that long to be here no. So I mean it's good stuff from Marchand. Can I hear more from the all wise basement is clicked in my mind that if you just wrote to somebody face a lot of people. I will be able to take that overlap over over over over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, just not all that about one in run through someone's face was run through mother believers face tickets, deeper metaphors he was going for their so Marchand I'm only seeing checks in the plus column. I don't see any checks in the common column here Marsha perfect class speaker and this is the best reason that you could dabble in the message and just how much of a celebrity he is. If you're not a big football fan. Maybe you don't know who Marchand. It the most important thing that I guarantee you, Marchand Lynch would accomplish as a public speaker. He's going to be short. That's not to be a very long speech they bill as he once gave the commencement address in Charlotte and he described to the pew that was sitting there everybody in attendance.

The five bees. The five bees of public speaking, those bees being Babe Ruth brother Babe Ruth I try to follow those guidelines. Every single time I'm asked to speak somewhere be brief. Brother Babe Ruth Marchand without a question would be brief. B.just tweeted in Robert Rob just let me down tremendously.

I have no clue WTF did our commencement address sidebar chicken be dots X grammar lesson.

Don't I don't go home and do your home. I already know what that means, B.I don't I know it Marchand Lynch is talking about here.

Am well aware what beast mode is saying when he stepping away from the game like you did a couple of months ago background to join the show in a little less than 10 minutes. Look at what Tubby Smith said yesterday because Robert did you catch this. Tubby Smith is on our show had something interesting to say about the NCAA one time transfer proposal and I put it on social media right after he got done saying that and all of the sudden I'm seeing Nicole our back from the athletic seeing dam woken from USA Today national media picking it up and I'm still getting notifications at the firestorm based on what Tubby Smith said if you missed it, here's what Tubby High Point head coach spoke on when I asked him about this one time transfer proposal. I remember something I made a comment about it without you. Very quick. Mary works Veracruz you get fired to alert other imparted archer have you been porridge about the second-best woman wore gold or direct you will do very numerically ill let them transfer free agency. But even MBA at the deadline bill when you and then they have to give up certain thing so something obviously disrupted a nerve side, Tubby Smith, but that wasn't the meat of the quote this part here is what really stirred people are we all made a lot of money. All five school everyone to put your transfers live torture through our five school we should become the University should be zero and all my best to sway this we live in America where you can have opinions.

People disagree with. But what bothers me and I seen a lot of this on social media Tubby Smith being dismissed because he's older Tubby Smith being dismissed because they disagree with what he had to say. I respect so much about Tubby, he smart. He's qualified one of nine active D1 head coaches who have won a national championship and he's always honest, even to honest at times I thought Darren Bott about this broadcast High Point basketball suspects times Tubby said things in a mic or he's like you don't have to say this on the record it's it's Tubby does just doesn't care his ideas I thought were interesting for one it should be noted he was essentially saying that if it's Pro sport if were going to treat college athletics like pro sports.

Let's act like let's go all in on what they players if players are going to be paid then acquiring them should cost you something. Secondly, there needs to be regulations or deadlines on if were going to have a lot of coaches across the country there fearful of. I'm interested to ask Mack Brown about this when he joins us in five minutes. North Carolina Hall of Fame coach.

We don't know what it's gonna look like when one time transfer is now the wall something you can do in college you could transfer without any punishment don't have to sit out here. What is it mean for the high point of the world in college football. What is it mean for the State for the East Carolina's, what is that mean and I can see why coaches are worried about this. It's part of that is why college basketball coach K talks about. We need a college basketball commissioner. We need somebody that can regulate banks in the NFL in the MBA. There are trade deadlines.

There are times where you cannot sign free agents. There are times where you can't execute trades papers can't trade can do until the start of the lead year as well past the trade deadline from late in 2019, there's none of that college. So there does need to be regulations of coaches. No when they can feel good about the team that they have knowing that what they have someone is something that's going to be there when the season starts. I may disagree with what Tubby is saying when he says all we can get fired is coaches okay will players can lose their scholarships to but I do think we are heading to a place where it's gotta be honest with ourselves, is it really college sports or are we already already in a place where it semipro athletics and if it is well is what we have saved really that crazy North Carolina Hall of Famer Mack Brown is going to join us next on the drive is it's gonna be messy. Drive Josh Graham. Here's what you have to remember when you fill out your practice in less than two weeks anybody is capable of losing, but only if you are capable of winning it all and this list can get smaller. In the next two weeks, but right now I have my list at 92 that I think are capable of winning the NCAA tournament of winning March madness be in the champions of college basketball and the two teams that are left off of it before I get to the teams that are in it too can get Zakia.

I don't think Duke Oregon Zakia are built to win a national title Duke their underdeveloped they have two key flaws pick and roll defense. We even saw it last night. Martell Johnson CJ Bryce Devon Daniels in the first death they were on. They were getting to the basket. The combined for 24 points in the first 18 minutes of the game in NC State is a French team that Joey Nardi right now doesn't have in the field of 68 Duke when they win the national title, their top 30 in the nation from three point range. That was the case of 15 2010, 2001, 92, 93, 91, 92 terrific three point shooting team. Even though the blue Devils are fourth in the nation scoring. They are 96 and three point field goal percentage. This team still has a lot of room to grow. They're not very mature. Coach K. He said it last night and he said it throughout the year that this team is a slow-growing team.

It's a slowly developing team. This was coach K after the NC stick.

What happens at times people overreacts the overreact, and now everything is wrong. Worse, when you just one by 1%.

Everything was right, and it's neither one it's and people say I'm telling you that were developing we are developing and by the way, if you don't continue to develop throughout the year than your it's gonna be sad for I agree with that but what I'm saying is also not an overreaction. This is something that I've been stewing on all throughout the year.

First, what would do basketball home game.

I talked with Duke basketball official.

I set who's the shooter on the state and I said I asked another person at the same exact question and asked another person the same exact question. I got three different answers that question still isn't cemented right now you might say it's Trey Jones. Statistically it says it's Matt Hurt okay Alex O'Connell. He had the biggest shots from three against North Carolina and Florida State. Joey Baker when he comes in is he the one that you're gonna lean on. Who's to say that's a question you should be able to answer on March 3 and I can't with Duke so I don't think they are a final four team. I don't think there were a national title contender. This is the team in the top five. I don't have as a national championship did just not built the way championship teams are generally built in Zakia. I don't trust any of their guards. They have three good not great forwards Killian Tilly you have Philip or Philippe Petru Sev. He's a great player when you look at him being a wooden award finalist player the year candidate in the Mountain West conference Cory Casper. They have good pigs but nobody is a dynamic guard and Zagat teams that have been great under Mark few have at least one guy who you can really lean on to be a ball handler who can hit clutch free throws that get you into the frontcourt hit a bakeshop in the perimeter. There's no Zach Norvell Junior on this team. There's no Josh Perkins is in the G league right now. There's no Nigel Williams Goss, who was on that team-based North Carolina in 2017 in the national championship I don't Segan zag getting to the final four and being a national chapter considers Duke and get Zagat there out of this. Here are the nine teams that I have who are going to be national championship competition national Championship caliber team. One of these nine teams will be holding the trophy at seasons, Kansas, Baylor, San Diego State, Dayton, Louisville, Kentucky, Maryland, Seton Hall, Florida State. Those are the nine and here's what they have in common. All those teams have experience they have depth and dynamic ball handlers Dayton OB top and he's a big guy. He's going to be a lottery pick likely a top-five pick. He's the one that gets all the attention, however, they have three excellent guards who have been awesome for Dayton in the A-10 is a good basketball league jailing Crutcher. He's been hitting big shots for them when it's not OB top and Trey Landers and Ivy Watson all really good players on the perimeter for Dayton Seton Hall Miles Powell is a senior guard wooden award finalist San Diego State Malachi Flynn. He just one defensive player of the year and is conference great score to ease the best player in San Diego State. Louisville's on this list because I trust David Johnson is good to be capable of doing something at some point like consistently. We saw it at do. We saw it down the stretch against Georgia Tech when Louisville looks scary good like the team I picked to win the ACC in the preseason. Louisville looks like the best team in the country and its David Johnson, who's leading the way. So, I believe Louisville is a part of that mix because I still think they have another level they can take it to Maryland and Seton Hall. They look like teams of destiny, Maryland. The last time they wanted. They had all these experienced players and Cowin Junior he's he's an older player and he has wings were older as well.

Maryland hasn't been to the final four since they won the championship in 2002 and when they want it. They were in Atlanta. Where's the final for this year. Atlanta Seton Hall. They've gotten close in this team looks like the best team they've had in a long time. So those are two teams I really like David Glenn is going to join us in a little over five minutes.

We'll talk more about ACC basketball with him. However, it is March and you also have spring baseball going on and major-league baseball players. They are still upset. They are acting crazy.

As a result of this Houston Astros sign stealing scandal Trevor Bowers been outspoken. Recently he was on cc's about the and Ryan Rukh goes podcast and he has been one of the loudest voices of criticism from the players against the Astros yesterday. He was pitching and just intentionally giving signs away to the batters and even the broadcasters they picked up the broadcasting. He was just flipping his glove forward motion get forward ever signaled Tommy throw a fastball and got to the point where they sent a reporter down to the Reds dugout to ask one of Bowers teammates. What the heck he was doing and this is how it sounded down there with Eric Dietrich.

You guys are talking about power given up what he was throwing the baby there and you have an answer for this. I in fact I do.

Trevor and I are good friends and if you follow baseball this off-season. There is little thing going on with the sign stealing start telling the veterans what's coming and that way there's no no no inoffensive thoughts about going on just here comes that's fantastic sound just rolling on the Astros.

This is going to end up being good for baseball as it it's a scandal that is bowel. The game versus something got happens in the shadows, something that we can't see the watch to see what teams do control the Astros to hit the Astros the Astros there being plunked already by players in spring training by pictures. They're not hitting them in places you would think it would look intentional.

So it's going to be fascinating because another thing is this the Astros are really good team so it doesn't seem like the best way to get it.

The Astros is giving them up bunch of free passes, allowing them to get on base, so I'm interested to see how far this goes but before this off-season.

Baseball was the sport were the athletes were most vanilla most uninteresting and what they said to the media never said anything scathing like Mike Trout.

I don't think ever uttered an interesting syllable in his life. However, even he is criticizing Rob Bamford publicly saying that they should he should penalize the Astros more and you got Trevor Bauer and you have everybody in the sport just ticked off and upset in the Astros are worried there to get hurt, with guys throwing baseballs item so this storyline is not going to die down. It's not good to go away.

It's going to be the biggest story in baseball all throughout the season. I suspect they were going to early afternoon host also writes for the athletic ACC sports.com. Do you trust NC State to win two consecutive games seems that something they need to do in order to make the NCAA term. It also what is Danny Manning status of Wake Forest about the DD about those things and more. Next, he may not be beautiful. We do sit around all day and talk sports. Yes we feel great about this is try. Josh grabbed it is the best month of the year doing what you and the we is plural because were being joined by our early afternoon host David Glenn a visit. Thus each and every week. This week we already had NC State Duke last night.

Tonight it's Wake Forest and North Carolina. What I would argue to be the most compelling matchup between these two teams in over a decade, then it's NC State facing Weick at PNC Arena Friday night Saturday its North Carolina, Duke the first time they've met since the classic game in Chapel Hill. The double overtime win for the overtime win for the blue Devils that had to buzzer beating shots with when Delmore winning the game. At the very end. The NCAA tournament is to be in Greensboro as is the ACC tournament were DG and myself will be broadcasting from next week. It's just so much to cover the women's tournament starts tomorrow in Greensboro as well but DG let's start with NC state NCAA tournament chances I felt last night was their best chance to feel comfortable on selection Sunday NC State for sure has to be Wake Forest and has to win their first game in the ACC tournament. Do you trust the pack to win two consecutive games when I get Wake Forest and then on Wednesday next week at the department, but I think you feel good. They go to win three straight meaning against one of those top four seeds on Thursday of the APP tournament. We all know that would not be easy, even though the pack does have great wins on his resume, but yet the next to wake at home and then a bottom tier team.

We all know it can be about matchup and I think the pack would rather not Carolina team that swept them during the regular season, but otherwise against the bottom tier team yet.

I believe with these veteran guards playing well.

More often than not I was not alarmed by lot the Duke that I thought would happen that way.

I think the good has outweighed the bad lately, and even for the entire season and I think they can take care of business. The next throughout NC State has won back-to-back games in ACC play just once this year.

They have not one three consecutive games in ACC play all this year. In a similar step the digit Wake Forest has not swept North Carolina in the season series since 2003, which means they have never done it against Roy Williams. Babbitt wanted Chapel Hill since 2010 and on top of that they had at 13 consecutive ACC games.

Since John Collins was playing for them in 2017. That's what's at stake tonight more so I think the case for Danny Manning potentially returning for 1/7 season that is starting to grow that is starting to become more of a conversation when it seemed inconceivable even a month or month or two ago. Wake Forest beat Duke Wake Forest beat Notre Dame which is in the top half of the week beat North Carolina for the first time under Manning.

What do you believe Danny status is today. I don't know the answer. If I were the athletic director or the University president, Wake Forest. I would pull the plug on this operation. I've been around a long time and when you have five losing seasons in your first six years, Danny had had it becomes unbelievably difficult to turn things around for a lot of different reasons. And whereas, there are the rare examples. Did you know Leonard Hamilton didn't go to the big dance that all is first six years at Florida State make Capt. and obviously it turned out wonderfully for the Seminoles over the wet decade plus Seminoles might even win a first regular-season title for the first 500 Leonard is 18 years there, but those with the exception and I've heard you break down the details.

I thought outstanding people sports journalism from it was Connor O'Neill in the Winston-Salem Journal recently talking about the Joel yell being half-empty for all but the biggest games and being on its way half-empty arena. If well with average attendance numbers since the building opened the deep started using it back in 1989 you when you hold 14,000+ and your averaging 7000 in most games that reflect the level of apathy that can lead to. It can be expensive to keep a coach even though we all know that Weick would rather not pay that megamillion dollar buyout and impacting.

I know the argument. I know who's eligible to return.

I know who's been signed for next year and that if the people. That's good to be the argument, but man the six years that I've seen would not justify another year. Again I like him of the person I respect his body of work, but I don't see enough pluses outweighed the obvious minuses.

I think Wake Forest basketball fans deserve better than that will then what they've got nobody that is the biggest difference between Wake Forest and say Leonard Hamilton and Florida State. The standard Wake Forest basketball.

It's just higher then yes Lord stated she had demoted.

By the way Leonard made for an IP in its first six years while mixing the NCAA tournament. So it's not like you had five losing years. The way Danny had. So I brought up that is a rare example of a coach's job, fix your resume and it was not very good but yet there are some differences and the it's early afternoon host David Glenn is with us on Twitter at data going to listen to a shelf.

Of course, noon to three right here on sports of Triad. I am not concerned for Duke being a top-of-the-line ACC team and they have a lot of talent and last night they showcased in the second half, scary Duke came out when coach Kate took off his jacket. They scored 17 consecutive possessions after the jacket went off. According to Brenda Marx. That's the next level analytics, you can expect from the athletic Carolina but am I am concerned the blue Devils being a national championship contender because this blue double-team coach Kate. He spent a lot of time telling us where they're not at their developing. He says that they're not as mature as he would like them to be. That's why they can have a loss in Winston-Salem and also lose deceiving up Austin at home and lose a game to NC state by 22 points there been very low moments for Duke this year and I think statistically, this is not a team that could shoot itself out of problems either 96, the day in three-point shooting percentage.

So when you look at the blue Devils not as a team that we can all acknowledge is one of the best in the ACC this year, but as a national title contender. What's your biggest concern with them and you don't usually say that it year right.

I know this that cover all five of that.

I promise everybody.

If you did your homework and you dug into the archives watch the details of all five of those feeds that ended up cutting down the debt for coach K. None of the five had three losses to unranked opponents of the month of February.

It just didn't happen.

David and lose many games at all after January, but when they did lose it was to really high ranked opponent and other good teams. Maybe one loss that was a little bit eye-opening but not free or certainly good to add NC state by 22 as you mentioned it at wake by double digits in double overtime. It's one thing to lose at UVA by about those other two were red flags. Vernon Kerry has trouble to get the pick and roll in modern college basketball a lot of try to exploit the blue double that way. Duke even had mixed in the occasional zone to try to protect against that they're not a good free throw shooting team of Vernon Kerry made him last night but you haven't made them this year as you need to and then the other concern is, whereas we know Trey Jones and burn care point guard and poster to do their thing almost every night there. Both All-American made their book for Steve only declares as we all fill out those valid but going to show up beyond those two.

And we did get state so to Jordan Goldwater off the bench, but there have been other games where nobody showed up the sides, Trey Jones and Vernon Kerry Junior if those supplementary players contribute more regularly again. It's getting late in the game for this to happen right, Duke of the national title contender again, but if it's really Trey and big bird and a guessing game that is a recipe to get you bounced. You know, in the round of 32 or the sweet 16 because where there's nobody to be afraid of Duke beat Kansas among other contenders earlier this season. You know, Duke doesn't look different than that top half a dozen dozen when they're not sure what angered what they're going to get from the complementary players in that lineup. DG I cannot wait for Duke Carolina on Saturday.

It's always suspect going Cameron in the course Greensboro Coliseum hosting the ACC men's basketball tournament for the first time in five years.

Next week my first ACC tournament in Greensboro so the phone I got DG thanks to spending time with us will talk to her about Greensboro. My friend know you Yep that's David Glenn he's on Twitter at data going show and we've got breaking news into the studio involving the Charlotte Hornets and arguably the greatest demon deacon ever. Greg Popovich is not going to coach tonight due to personal reasons this just released by the Spurs which means Tim Duncan is going to step in and be the Spurs head coach tonight. Tim Duncan is going to be the acting head coach of the San Antonio Spurs against the Charlotte Hornets tonight. How bleeping cool is that