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March 5, 2020 5:59 pm

On this edition of The Drive with Josh Graham Daron Vaught comes in studio to compare a couple things, Brian Geisinger tags along to play The Movie Game, and Adam Amin calls in to give his take on the Panthers and Carolina BBQ.

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This is dry when Josh drive. This support is when your skeptical or curious, very possible you overanalyze your partners been unfaithful. You might overthink text messages you receive a YG only sake. Hey, and that tax or it's been 38 minutes then please respond debate.

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No! The remote Jesus clearly is not having it. Robert true story that led to an argument that led to a relationship ending in my past really yeah somebody say that I don't use enough!'s or emoji's. I knew that's when I had to parachute out of that right. Hey, you know the age I was in college.

Okay yeah so I was having none of that. I'm a guy who's good with grammar. The attacks a lot.

And there not a big!

God similarly though, I think we might be over thinking cam Newton's future because the most legible signs we can see point to the Panthers preparing for him to return everybody I've talked to in college football, and those who have dealt with Matt rule in the last few months since he became the Panthers head coach of said he's a standupand kinda guy, very straightforward and what is he told us since the very beginning. He said the day he got the job. One of his first phone calls was to cam Newton and he said he had a great conversation with Dan in his opening press conference the next time we saw him at a press conference was at the combine and what he did tell us he absolutely wanted the coach Tam was a very strong approval from rule which is in stark contrast to what David Tepper gave us her didn't give us a couple of weeks prior to that in the Panthers locker room at Bank of America Stadium.

His answer seemed genuine to it's not the same regurgitated prepackaged company line that you can tell some coaches have when they're trying to hide something. They deal with PR people who say just answer the question this way.

I'm here to tell you I've been in sports a very long time. I love entertainment I follow comedians and have talked to many of them dealt with some actors and people in your entertainment and Hollywood my brother. He works for Disney out in LA and coaches. Most of them I've dealt with pretty much all of them.

I dealt with are not actors. Usually you can tell when somebody's being genuine or disingenuous Matt rule seems to be genuine with his answers like this week.

He's doing a podcast with Peter King and he's asked about Joe Brady and in the spot where maybe you're trying to hide something about cam in a hypothetical sense.

Maybe you don't want to talk about them as much as you don't want to let people know that you might want to move off of the got you might not mention care.

He was asked about cam here. He volunteered talking about Newton this was that response from the Peter King podcast here still have a tremendous accessibility with a college version of what he learned and wanted it that I wanted that that I had studied and thought about hate. If I do this, how my going to do it. I thought about cam what he needed and I thought he needed a gale quarterback friendly offense that's really can allow him to stay upright and be a great quarterback.

So this is more from Matt rule. This is on with Mike Florio with Chris Sams this is Pro football talk and again he's asked about how the offense and in this case specifically about what he seen from care and I think you go back and look at him one third now you look at the ability for him to throw the ball to know even last year playing on her foot in the East deleting our comebacks to write silent, so he come off the shoulder.

He still still got the alarm.

You can tell he's watched every snap that can display the last few years this guy has done his homework and I believe it's a lot more convenient.

It's a lot less exhausting to take what the Panthers are telling you, and at least give it a chance. I've been on record saying I if I had to guess would say the Panthers are moving off of. I've said that I still believe it. However, this might be me over analyzing over thinking the way you might look to get a text message and thinking there's not enough emoji's and their order! Maybe I'm trying to look at things that aren't there like a David Tepper press release or letter sent to PSL owners are cam Newton's cryptic Instagram page and some of the comments he has there that were always trying to tie the football.

Maybe if he says he's hungry.

He's not talking about hungry to try and win a championship somewhere else. Maybe he actually just wants to eat some food and Noda. I don't know on Twitter at sports of dried if you want to chime in 336-777-1600 is the phone number. This brings me to the Panthers decision yesterday to trade Trey Turner a pro bowler to the LA Chargers in exchange for another Pro bowl left tackle and Russell Okun. This could be a signal to cam that they're not quitting on him that they're committing to him. This is maybe a way for Matt rule to show cam. It's not just talk with him. Hey were going to improve the offense of line and if you're doubting the offense of line really was an improvement. It really is an approved adding Okun and losing Trey Turner. I would say this to you. There's a reason why tackle, and specifically left tackle is the most expensive position on the offense of line is the second most expensive position on offense altogether is a reason why you don't see many gall words being taken in the first 10 pics of a draft tackle.

It's the most important spot so even though Okun only has one year left on his deal and he's five years older than Trey Turner. It is an upgrade and much like Okun cam only has one year on his deal as well. So who knows, maybe this makes KM more comfortable playing for a new coach and playing more importantly on a one-year contract with one year remaining. If you are welcoming the idea of the Panthers playing the 2020 sees a mechanic quarterback. I think it makes sense when you start exploring alternatives and think okay. Who can you get that's better than cam at the price KM Tams contract currently cost you $22 million this year. I don't think there's anybody in this free agency market. You can find that is a better value than cam Betty Bridgewater he's gone for five years when you're trying to tank and I believe the papers are trying to rebuild. Take rebuild almost synonymous terms what you want to avoid are long, expensive contracts and you want to pursue you and walk cam isn't exactly useful at soon to be 32 years old.

Here while that's not the case.

He only has one your due Bridgewater's you want for five years, Ryan Tannehill, he just did a short-term contract amid the AFC championship event that guy signing a one-year contract with the Panthers 0% chance Philip Rivers yeah you can get them for one or two years but it's gonna cost you more than 22 five guarantee you that so it seems to me cam might be the best value at his price. It's sort it is inexpensive for starting quarterback value in the NFL.

And lastly, if you don't get a second round pick at least that according to Jonathan Jones were talking about third or fourth round picks for KM. They really should consider bringing him back because if Carolina is trying to build for the future. You have a jail and hurts Valdivia in the second round you pick him or you select.

Maybe even the quarterback number seven. We talked about this yesterday.

Justin Herbert Jordan love may be in that spot.

If Carolina falls in love one of those two. It would be a great position for one of those rookies did not have to play in their first year to learn under cam.

Also, if the Panthers are selling the idea and the rest of the NFL believes cam's gonna be a panther heading into the 2020 sees it.

I think that enhances his value so what makes you think a team in the summer. Is it going to need a quarterback. Somebody's going to get hurt during training And make all maybe we can trying to camp.

I don't think you accept anything less then a second round pick for Camden.

That's my general feeling on it. I want to ship things to Virginia basketball Virginia they been an amazing story this season.

After last night. The hose of 17 in a row. Six of those by a margin of three points or fewer and without cracking 60 points in the last 4W and it gets crazier if Virginia wins it home Saturday against Louisville and Florida State loses to BC the hose when at least a share of the ACC regular season title for the fifth time five times in seven years.

However, when I see Virginia. This Virginia team. I don't quite see a national title contender.

I see what this North Carolina team could have been.

I see these two teams as mere mirroring each other there almost every parents.

Both teams last year loss, three draft picks off their roster. Both teams were number one seeds in the NCAA tournament loss. For starters from their team. The draft picks North Carolina Kobe white cam Johnson to see her little Virginia tile guy tie Jerome DeAndre Hunter this year.

When I look at these rosters. Look how similar they are to rely on the older big man I probably would prefer Marti due Tite to Garrison Brooks, a power forward in the backcourt. I probably prefer: Anthony Dickey hey Clark, it's a slight advantage though you had a shooting guard. Come on in the second half of the conference season for Virginia. It was Thomas Waddington side for North Carolina. It's Christine feeling. I think it's a push at shooting guard. It's a push at coach Tony Bennett. Four of the last six ACC regular season titles a chance he could be coach of the year.

This year, a national champion last year he's gonna be a future Hall of Famer, Roy Williams.

He's already a Hall of Famer. The biggest difference between the two is this Virginia has caught the brakes. North Carolina hasn't. This is specifically lighting games North Carolina is one and six and one possession games this year. Virginia eight and one North Carolina is it having: Anthony fouled in the final 10 seconds of the game because a Miami guard didn't know that they had six vows instead of five.

That's what happened less like he had cargoes to the line with 10 second to be at the free-throw. It's two free throws to make a 46 to 44 and they end up winning that game Virginia. I'll give them this, they are more reliable and the reason they are more reliable is because of the system. Players are more comfortable in it. They were recruited to play in it there confident in it Mema North Carolina dictates a different kind of recruit a higher talented work recruit a more talented regression set so when that happens, you try to bring in the coal Anthony's in the one done type of player, and what Williams does recruit those types you have to tailor a style to your personnel okay. He plays different styles every single year.

That's what makes him a great coach. You can have one year Seth Curry playing with Austin Rivers, which warrants a completely different style than Zion Williamson play next RJ Barrett or Vernon Carey laying with this Duke group. The styles vary year to year out with Virginia so the players who were stepping into roles know exactly what they have to do because the guys who were there before them did the same exact thing that is the difference the tile is similar to personnel or similar situations or similar.

The reason why Virginia is winning the close games and Virginia is going into the final week of the year right there for potentially being first in the ACC standings release and a tie for first place is because they are reliable and they are confident in their system. The system is.

The difference is dry when Josh grabbed me driving everyone crazy mission accomplished Fox sports Triad. One of my favorites out of a meeting of ESPN now with us. He's in Memphis Wichita states facing the Tigers tonight 9 o'clock ESPN and I've told someone recently. My approach when I have guest on the show is to treat them like a houseguest you know you want to entertain the make sure they have a good time. Make sure thought-provoking. It's an enjoyable experience.

That's why say about coaches. They ask hey why don't you ask hard questions when you have guest on your show versus the hard questions you might ask, in a press conference in them like they're obligated to do the press conference are not obligated to come on this radio show. That's what I'm regretting coming out of the box with this question to Adam amine, but he's the most qualified person.

I think the answer it. This radio shows based in North Carolina, Adam. You are in Memphis.

What is your preferred barbecue. I hope you are the heaviest side? Kelly I knew the question was coming my brothers with a lot of Alec met with Barb my personal preference. That doesn't mean I don't like North Carolina barbecue that though it because in a binary thing so it felt like I don't look at what job you're hot, especially of all the hot list. I don't think I like both. If I had to choose one. I would use Memphis barbecue that my personal personal. I love you like rendezvous is great out here like I'm never going to like it. I think some medical Memphis locals looked down on rendezvous for strep.

That's fine, I will. I would never disparage anybody creating a rendezvous at the Chronicle does a great job at the food was fantastic. Simple barbecue is my place of choice. Memphis if I'm going specifically just barbecue I go to central in there for five different places. Everybody swears by their own but that's my personal favorite. There Memphis and obviously when I'm in Memphis. I try as often as possible. Flying a cooling this morning. I gave my flight Minneapolis effluent this morning. Otherwise, by dinner last night will join my producer Joe McCoy for dinner at Gus's project in Québec still Be My Favorite Pl. in Memphis just in general to go to. Even though there's one in Chicago. It just feels different when you come to Memphis either Adam amine the purveyor of the hot takes saying he likes both Memphis barbecue and North Carolina barbecue all their hybrid it's it's as hot of the take as somebody who is smart and measured as anybody I know. Last week Darren Gant saying to be the Panthers don't know what's happening with cam Newton they don't know until they get an actual physical because his Instagram videos. They don't really qualify as medical, physical, that somebody has to take this time of year so give me the national perspective. What seems like the most likely outcome for Camden. I like when that rule. I want to coach the guy I want I want cam Newton. I expect him to be there when he writer to go there and here's the one thing about the quarterback carousel like how much are you meant to say or decided to go all in on Kyle, you feel like that 100% the option to go with him.

He certainly earned himself. Someone last year. I thought we had a couple of paper games. I thought he was certainly a viable option to one that often with some help. Given some help for chamomile. I've already heard rumors that there could be another CP going after them I could Redskins freed for cam Newton and I think they're willing to trade with cam did you have to listen to what options are out there.

Can you get help on the offense of line because I was spot where I felt help was an issue which I know a lot of pain to deal with. Can you bolster the offense of my can you bolster the linebacking core now with the retirement of Luke equally. Can you get a couple of guys on the defensive side that might be able to help you out, but I feel like if I had the bank on a nice photo I Camden could end up in Carolina I don't know how much of an option need be another spot the Redskins rumors are interesting, but you also decided that weight has to advertisement a first-round pick on going at leisure. So, in my estimation I feel like when it's all said and done I I would probably prefer she can't stay in Carolina I think to be an interesting experiment with Matt will to see what he could bust up to get about rules and all the offense of line guy so I know that you want to improve the offense of line playing baby help keep somebody like you can do to help year.

That's obvious you get a big issue for the shoulder of the last couple years so I would love to see inspection Adam amine with us on twitter at Adam amine Watson tonight. It is Wichita State at Memphis not o'clock tip on ESPN. I was reminded last night of something.

What are your colleagues Dick Vitale asked us on the show about a year ago when I saw Zion going head-to-head with Luca Duncan which he said in the emergence of Luca the NBA. His rookie year and Zion Terry get up at Duke. He said he was torn on who he might want in the future if he was building his team around just one of those two guys that was a year ago now were seeing Zion do things that no teenagers ever doubted the MBA and Luca was just tremendous last night.

So would you look at it from a analyst standpoint that you cover the MBA Zion or Luca who do you feel more sure say this guys get to be the next star of the next decade. You do not, I don't name it up question I would if you start a franchise electric. One of those two players I'm thinking will be dockage in a heartbeat. Now I I do know that Luther can be a little bit tough to lay with at times that seems to be kind of a thing that you hear around some NBA circles of Mavericks project in Chicago are playing the Bulls on Monday nights.

I was watching watching in preparation for my game last night II just watch Luca and I think you get on it guys a little bit. He house a little bit the referees because remember for two years in Europe.

He was a star you got star treatment in Europe. So naturally, it essentially comes the United States comes to the MBA that you should get that same treatment you got to earn that treatment at some point the next few years. He is a star at and I will if I have to start a franchise with one of those two guys I most of his eye on it and he is explosive and putting up a significant level of production. I just feel like Luca makes the other guys better and the elevation of play is what I'm looking at when I look at transcendent players when I'm looking at the Lebron James is of of the NBA.

When looking at the guys working on filling that role in the future when I'm looking at the next Lebron James pipe, not necessarily you got your Hall of Fame Clara top five all-time player when I'm looking at summary that elevates the people around them.

Dockage does that got the ability score on his own to get a lot of other guys involved, I feel like you doing things that don't like this in the amount of 2100 point we get 21 triple-double return 21 years old Lebron for the next guy prolific bike like so you also doing things that people his age of never done before, so if that's if if that's the only argument I just feel like I'm looking at a guy who elevates the others around and I think Adam is the absolute best man.

Thanks for doing this on a game day. It's good to hear your voice and precedent appreciation, but that is out of ESPN calling Memphis, Wichita State 9 o'clock tonight on ESPN Robert. I've been watching two things on Netflix may be deeply uncomfortable. This week the new Pokémon movie.

Yes, it's getting me to I can't get over it is the exact same and there's also shiny. I don't, I must posted field, we must feel.

I guy I it's the exact same movie that came out you guys just made all polished and made all the Pokémon look nice and shiny. They're not nice and shiny there Pokémon know these little balls of disaster you will me to think that I'm supposed to go in Russian by a bunch of pluses I just was the one I love you too. Now he's available in a change of heart.

At the end of the movie.

That's why we love it. But now it just goes to be some Cabbage Patch kids my little pony love fast, no, don't desecrate that. I honestly have written multiple emails about them taking it down. I got my Netflix account canceled because I'm not watching something Pokémon if I want to watch the real thing. I'm in a popping of the HS be kind rewind watching from the beginning my breath on this guy you be so fired up over this. I was good to say love is blind Unabomber.

Oh yeah me to better that's what I was talking about next a blockbuster trade, including Peyton Manning. Yes, this is a headline in 2020. That's were going to begin sharing with Darren Vaught you're on the drive has a lot of microphone slightly said patriots feel this is the drive we are now sharing with Darren about the data going show several ports point ESPN pursuing a deal that would acquire Al Michael's contract from NBC Sports to pair him with Peyton Manning on Monday Night Football summer left to get this.

I don't think this is that crazy Darren when I look at this it is the perfect ideal situation for Monday Night Football and even though the obvious question you could ask if you're in BC. Why should we do this is a good one where in a negotiating year were all the networks that are involved with the NFL are trying to re-up which is why think Tony Romo got the amount of money he did and that negotiation with CVS reportedly $70 million a year.

The biggest contract color analyst is ever gotten. That is a signal to the NFL that once Romo on their games.

Hey we need to re-up with CVS to get Romo and NBC might be thinking no were not to give you Al Michael's in an important year were trying to renegotiate. Also, when were talking about the potential of super Bowls, potentially being granted to ESPN a place has it been yet I get that.

But let's not forget how Michael's was involved in a swap between these two companies back in 2006 Al wanted to join John Madden at NBC and that's exactly what happened when he left ABC in 2006 Peyton and now Michael's are apparently close so it seems like to me if I want this to happen in BC they hired Mike to Rico a few years ago from ESPN to replace how Michael's fee is two years left on his contract. By the way Al does.

So I don't think this is not far-fetched.

In fact, I think it would be the most beneficial thing for all parties to have Mike to Rico no longer be in this awkward place of limbo. Also to have how Michael's back in the place he was once before Monday Night Football and getting Peyton Manning finally into a broadcast booth. Yet I I think it's it's pretty obvious why ESPN would do this and why ESPN would want to do this now the question the bounce back. The pushback from NBC is valid, but in their defense, like they've they've built a bench of potential NFL play-by-play guys whereas that's been ESPN's problem pretty much since to Rico left is that they don't have that not specifically for the NFL.

I think we all agree Sean McDonough is one of the best to do it but it was just a weird spot to put him on Monday Night Football. They paired them with Gruden, which was awkward as well.

Also, ESPN has been dying for Peyton Manning to have interest in doing Monday Night Football and Peyton Manning.

Last year he turned them away. Apparently because he didn't want to be in that spot. While his brother was still playing now utilize retired sure, and that's that was a convenient excuse. At the end of the date Manning's only good do it under perfect circumstances. He's just not heat. He knows that his not that is necessarily somebody that concerns himself with this, but the people around him that do know that Peyton Manning's brand doesn't need for him to be that big of an option for that but that the mantelpiece of ESPN's NFL broadcast coverage.

But if these tight with Michael's. This is a strategy that ESPN has used as recently as earlier this week when they signed chipper Jones to do major-league baseball games with his good friend Beauchamp Wednesday night baseball yet so there chipper is on the books for 20 games this regular season he's gonna do.

Opening day and it's because of his relationship with Bruce, Sean B. From when when Jambi was the Atlanta Braves guy otherwise. Chipper is not you want to do this.

So finally, in trying to secure their woes in finding these these play-by-play guys for their their premier shows their premier production Sunday night baseball Monday Night Football really think they'd like to go to things that I think that's ultimately what they're trying to build up to with Jambi and chipper. It would surprise me if that's not the at least a thought of an of an eventual outcome. Yeah they just haven't been able to figure out Monday Night Football and if this is what's going to do it and get money and get Peyton Manning over there. Al Michael's is is one of the best they've worked with them before most of the people that are producing on Monday Night Football probably still have relationships with him. It it just makes sense when you for the past five years. Nothing they've done is made sense and I'll go a step further. It's not just getting Monday Night Football back on track. It's getting ESPN and ABC all where if that that's what's at stake here. ESPN their lobbying for that, but they're not to give a Super Bowl to Joe Tessa tour and booger McFarland will enter your point.

That's where the big money is getting one Super Bowl in the next 5 Years Is Way more important than not having Bulger McFarland or Jason Witten, and it enhances every year. What games you get. I don't think it's a coincidence. The quality of the game has gone down. When you look at the quality of the broadcast booth going down its ESPN works is the NFL.

They want their best games to be broadcasted by the best broadcasters out there. What were talking about the media there about you'll appreciate this because your producer. This segment what were doing right now is so heavily perpetuated by Robert Walsh behind the scenes. He is the puppeteer for this segment because apparently there is audio that I haven't seen haven't heard, excuse me earlier in the show dug up from earlier in the show. I haven't heard this yet you and Darren are producing behind my back to show that I'm supposed to engineer the content for in addition to that last week we did blaring with Darren before that we did staring at Darren we have the newest iteration rhyming iteration of a Darren related segment that will get to in moments as well. But first, let me hear what audio you've dug up Robert women's tournament. Of course, underway already but it's going to be the end of the five-year drought.

What you what you hear here just to slough you alleging are you alleging I said tournament. Wrong again. No no no no no no I I so I was off on the other side of the studio. Obviously, in an tying some things up for the DG show today and now that I hear the second time, Robert. I'm not 100% sure but don't you back off. Where will the playback I heard it. What I call them like I thought I texted Robert and said, did he just say five-year trout the end of the five-year drought I drought I guys can all believe Paul will address. You should also know that. Imagine this is the place you're working in imagine this is the hell escape where I say drought your accusing me of saying the fish and on top of that for the best player in major league baseball or five or 10 seconds before the microphones come on and I'm speaking to Adam the mean. Robert says my ear. Hey, there is a caller who said he didn't know who the Panthers were trying to put it guard they didn't know who Greg Wendell was so funny. I'm glad you five-year drought, five-year trout all right about you here. Let's get to the latest Darren Vaught -related game were going to play it sharing with Darren Brian Foreman toes now just living in Arizona. Prior to that, living in WXII sport director life out there attractive human being. Yeah, that dude he is. He created the sharing with Darren moniker Robert wanted to revamp it with some ideas so we did staring at Darren which I thought was right. Success blaring with Darren I think was really good to now.

We got comparison with Darren correct how is this going to work. Robert you list two things and Darren will just have to compare.

I feel like I should be easy enough. He's a very guy he can find the comparisons or lack thereof. Okay Darren, are you ready to play. Comparing with Darren.

I guess I don't have a choice with sure). Like I said before, all you got into some fun music.

The Wii weather Channel. I blatantly stole this don't come get me a list two things and compare them for us. Easy enough start over a water and sparkling water, water and sparkling water well are you looking for like what I prefer just how would you compare the to the similarities or the lack of similarities. How I well is looking for the Robert water difference is differences. The differences between the two is the one type of water sparkling and the other is not. One is flat and the other is not. The other is like the essential thing in its purest form, and the other has been altered in some way and I prefer the more natural version, Darren.

I my girlfriend Sarah Rafferty's got me into like sparkling and flavored water is Italy. Is that a thing as coronavirus preventing I'm glad you asked.

Right now I'm still set to go to Italy next month. Okay I don't know for sure because when you go to restaurants. There, it's a much more.

I mean, obviously, some places you go here in the states. It's like water. Sure, sparkling or flat. It's it's it's a not go anywhere where that's not the two options I put in this light.

About a month ago and the cost probably between 12 and $1300, and I'm scared to look at with the flights because now because I keep reading headlines that flights are dirt cheap soccer since were talking about the coronavirus. I like to compare these two things Darren compare the coronavirus to Michael Jordan's blue game I did. This makes it diligent they were. Well it's it's little-known that the coronavirus is actually a somewhat pedestrian virus that strength is matter-of-fact if you look at if you got it like a can of Lysol disinfectant near you are when you get home if you're driving that something look on the back and it explicitly says Lysol prevents coronavirus. Oh well.

Consequently, so I'm writing it out entirely and not to to be diminish the significance of this outbreak at all, but I'm not writing off the idea that there's some overlap in what Michael Jordan had.

I like that in the coronavirus if there's there's probably little bits and pieces of coronavirus in what is assumed to be a pretty standard flu I've got for you to protect yourself not to absolve you of any hot take like you comparing the coronavirus to what Michael Jordan made it sound neural dissolved that protects me.

All right give me one more of these.

This is comparing with daylight for each one of I've taken a few seconds of this is a good it's like the SAT, but for nonsense.

I like you to compare will will you will Valero's relationship with baseball two drinks relationship with the raptors. How did the A's do in the preseason when Pharaoh was there.

It is a matter of the matter, I don't think it mattered drink. The raptors really ended the drinkers correct and I don't think that that was there.

There is a distinct parallel with Will Ferrell and baseball teams when that will Ferrell suited up for. I don't think so.

You didn't make the playoffs think nobody sprang so it's just like he does have his own baseball reference page and Drake. I'm sure in his deepest of consciousness just lives for the idea of someday having a basketball reference. Either your you touched on what I wanted from your failure for that part Darren but two and three.

There's there's not there's a right answer on the proctor for this exam will Ferrell will got what I cannot say his name will Ferrell's relationship with baseball is similar to what Drake wishes he had with basketball. He wishes he could be on the court hairball and their stories. But he can use mine with a hat looking like Micah van Gogh painting standing there one of the greatest photos of ever seen just a few weeks ago. Follow Darren on Twitter at Darren Vaught.

I like this I like. Apparently Karen and I want more and that's what I want to do you have ideas of things that Darren could compare Cletus at sports on triad you are listening to W STS Winston-Salem WC OG Greensboro W MFR Highpoint and.WPC in Burlington those signals making up sports triad.

I do like the idea of comparing with Darren just people shooting us things to prepare left and right. Not bad, will play the movie game. Brian Geisinger will be in with Darren Vaught and myself 30 minutes from now from ACC sports.com this is okay thank you Josh Fox sports hub triad. It is time for our weekly movie game. We are sharing with Darren Vaught were to do. Compare it with Darren Vaught one more edition of that just a bit. Brian Geisinger is now being added to the proceedings. You know him from ACC sports.com one of our favorites to catch up with his story yesterday, a report with some inside knowledge saying that Danny Manning and his agent have begun conversations, negotiation of the terms of a buyout with Wake Forest. So I imagine it's been a very busy time. How are you doing BG yes it has been busy. I'm good and looking forward to the tournament next week in Greensboro meant yes we have plenty of time to talk about basketball limited time to talk about movies. So let's dive right into the movie game which has way too much imaging, then it needs horrifying stories.

Time for some kind of moving around our just show me what's going on guys Brian. Glad you can play Wednesday could have you here.

We are playing the run tomatoes movie game as you guys are familiar, you can shoot for the audience score of these movies, the closer you get the benefits you have to win its golf course so the lower the score, the better you are the first place. Today in honor of Carolina and do playing this weekend.

I have picked movies that probably show someone blue or about someone blue Josie ready ready go to get the pens and paper characters lay it could be someone name to be someone that is blue.

There aren't a lot of good movies is a franking appearance coming somewhere in here I think all you can feel it all. Giamatti right yeah I envisioning a solid blue ball Giamatti are you guys look, don't you.

Okay, that's our first movie now since you got to play that game. Here's a clip from big fat liar was charming. I love Paul Giamatti. I really do. If you get right on the nose.

It's five or 10 points to get the doctor. 10 then pointed my math say yeah three movies in the fourth would be the golden movie and make sure you write down your score beforehand. We'll do not seem around here it's right we don't want you to base your score off the other layers score. For some reason I always have to go for yes because I despise you in the skin. I'm going to go with this movie be in terrible 37% 7% 37 booby) which got I have 61. I also did not really like this one out in terms of cinematic value.

Brian what you I'm going with already wrote it down so I can deviate go with 77 like I have the letter seen the movie but I do love Paul Giamatti shut out Chuck Road. I look sideways to guys. Also, it was great and not bad boys but straight out of Compton area. Also, Amanda binds pre-psychotic break anyway big fat liar scores in at 44 Dallas go go to start talking about I default too much to like the 5060 range. I'm not as willing to take your second movie is a old cartoon that is been popularized and redone as a clip placed it's this movie is only one of these several, but it is the first hole franchising. This came out in 2015 to be wrong for since yesterday. Crank these bad boys out it's who's the dude off How I Met Your Mother. He's the voicing one of the main on budgetary love to the original cartoon right yes right I was done there design things that you can name the bad guys name. I'll give you five points off the argument. Just kidding Josh, but I was right. You are right.

That I just which got 59% with 59 Darren. I have 4848 Brian 40 Smurfs. Oddly enough, also comes in at 44 Manzo after two movies in last place you got brine with 37 Josh is in second with 22 and Darren is in first with 21 one-off this is. You did well on one movie just on X prize like BG is only off by 15 or 16 points here. This is a pretty close game because game you might have a golden movie which Robert hates because his Microsoft Works Excel spreadsheet for some reason it doesn't work before. I don't know why that is so somebody win this game.

Here's your clip of your final regular movie that's right. It's about his favorite old school is the first one I would've thought of us as I say characters name blue I'm surprised no one screamed it out. I sure did you not cut that you bring that audio prepared. I did bring that audio prepared I got labeled as old school meet your my boy.

We just heard out doesn't know that was at his funeral. I don't have nobody in there with you.

Sorry, I thought that was somebody in the production room screaming for God know no one left here. Oh I think he was saying that your good singer Robert okay so not the same as you say. I screamed that I was very thank you it's it's crowded.

Josh was there. Everybody got one written down with you BG make sure everybody has down here I 87% going hi 8787. I have 78 but I do love this your last brine, which I'm calling in the same neighborhood as Darren here got 7575 old school comes in at 86 years. Josh does not win on that we are going to a final golden movie a blue glass America, I believe, though now you're in the lead.

Brian pretty far back, but I'll let you play anyway brine the last 48 point staring, you're not. Let's go baby go not too far, 29, and Josh you are currently in first with 23 there is a six-point separation is within 10 points. It means we go to a final golden movie and lucky for you, because I have no audio for this movie because it was absolutely terrible into the blue with Jessica Alba. I like that RIP Paul I love you know actually nothing about this movie you like Jessica Alba sees Tommy and she was fine. She was like all the rage leap off 2008, probably right Jessica Alba for sure when that fantastic four movie came out all the rate also a terrible move also not good but it put is it Chris Evans that was the human torch put him on the matter.

Also, when you golden movie ticket numbers are saying this, just give me a little bit.

Robert is a little better, right, Josh started. Everybody got a score written now jotted I'm going with 2% 52% for into the blue is really just like shake your paper in the air, what, why to buy Robert times and Samantha. I appreciate why you making up your reason to make it what you got there I got 67.

Enough of the different that is enough of a difference. Brian hear me which you raise you as was the shaking my paper.

I'm full and crumpling it by 38 what the score that I had written down before their lives less than 38 I think less than 38 what problem I hate math. It's not less than 38 into the blue comes in at 57. Darren, you're in second place with 39 Josh you're in first with 28 Josh wins your movie and I'm here to tell you. Love is blind is the worst thing that Alexis put out there until I watched you and Obama. How are they going to glorify the bomber by having people on this show who are actually say you know what this guy was not crazy. He has great ideas look at today's society. What we were seeing that links people kill people. Let's not celebrate people who commit murder. I'm talking to the people that make Ted Bundy movies decide to have Zac Efron playing them in movies and I'm talking to all the people that love the true crimes. Please, please give it a rest is in you don't enjoy any of that stuff not accept the recruit stories that Scott Ballard while the differences I don't think there's any type of celebration of it you have to do a lot of it now yes Dragon Scott at the acknowledgment of the victims.

I feel like I learned a big part of that story was Chancellor Lee and his grandmother and we learn more about the victim and anyone else I don't know any of the Unabomber's victims, but I know a lot about the Unabomber now can only victims have beautiful stories that winter, Robert started take this to a brighter place nearby the way BG is appreciated. Prior Geisinger's way too smart for this show to be dictating these guys trying to do me a favor Darren after that really riveting movie game I like to compare couple things for me absolutely.

Can you compare Spike Lee being reprimanded using the wrong elevator to the fall of Kat Williams. I wish I knew more like universally known Williams jokes. You don't look a lot like a tiger listen your pimp. I love your sports diet and is in the Chronicles are excellent.

Kat Williams is a mess with me. Sorry I respect them anyway. Compare these two things Zions busted shoe to the shoes and like Mike, which were very busted so will will do that Nikes in both the cases right. I Calvin Knight was the name of the young man Boutwell was portraying and was even more heralded at a younger age than Zion Williamson himself, although he only dunked in the movie. I think once and it was at the Ginger bullying that referred to the shoes as Snickers actually hates a cowriter was Calvin Cambridge. It wasn't quite late for the LA nights.

Calvin Cambridge well done. So anyways I have a couple of distinct memories from watching this movie with my brothers, one of which is the way the ginger bullying pronounces the word sneakers and I was can say, Josh. It's funny, ginger, because just bots to work much like you do on a daily basis you bring Josh up because the last things I'd like you compare would be Josh Graham Josh Hamm John Hamm's Josh grandparents and I'm interested now need to John Hamm ever tried to pull off like a Fedora 1920s party that my girlfriend through yet he pulled it off better.

He did a better way better. Darren, thanks for being here buddy, that's Darren Vaught and that's been another edition of Sharon with Darren and also comparing with Darren coming up clear signs we might be ignoring when it comes to cam Newton's future with the Panthers. This is a Thursday drive