Is Wes (Miller) best?

Man what a jampacked show we have the day with Jay Millis on but Wake Forest remains the big story as they look to their next best barcodes are still in the early stages of that process. For Danny's replacement but I believe there's one coach who fits best giving criteria that make sense for Wake Forest and that coaches Winthrop's Pat Kelsey again based on the criteria I have here for Wake Forest. The three most important things being. You gotta have some time in North Carolina or Wake Forest, meaning you understand the neighborhood you will be stepping into. You gotta have high-energy man.

Danny didn't have that the next guy needs to breathe life into the program the same way, John Curry, I'd argue, did last year when he stepped in for Ron Wellman Curry.

He drummed up interest for Wake Forest football. I thought he did an excellent job in doing so in the fall and then obviously the next guy needs to have head coaching experience, but at some point down the line, you better have powers six coaching experience to doesn't have to be a head-coaching spot at the P6 but had coach or assistant position that really matters in my mind. I think Kelsey is the best fit but let's just do process of elimination, given the criteria I just presented.

Having ties. It essentially means that you understand resources are not to be as plentiful as what you might find it do or North Carolina or NC State geographically. Hey, you are a private school. It's good to be more difficult for you to land recruits. You have to be a little bit more resourceful. You have to understand the recruiting base. I think that eliminates Steve Forbes, who was a career assistant before arriving get East Tennessee State never spent time coaching in the state of Virginia or North Carolina or in South Carolina, spent time in Wichita. He spent time in Big Ten country in Iowa spent time in Oklahoma pretty much everywhere else other than the South or in the Carolinas so I don't think Forbes is going to be seriously considered energies. An interesting one, it usually means you but not always like anybody would say Roy Williams is an energetic anybody would say, coach K is it energetic this is it in age thing necessarily last year, Maxwell. He replaced Larry Fedora and Mac.

He's off on energetic guy and you see it paying off on the recruiting trail bike young.

I think he's a great hire for Virginia Tech and even though he's a little bit older than some of the candidates that get hired nowadays. He showed a lot of zest a lot of showmanship a lot of personality and energy. This isn't necessarily an age conversation. I do think it eliminates John Bilotta. I don't understand how Wake Forest fans can't get this through their head belied he is it a fit if he was I think you'd already be hired because he has the same agent is Danny Manning same guy whose negotiating Danny's buyout on behalf of Danny would also be the person representing beeline so I can't fathom Curry hiring a search firm if beeline was his goal all along.

I think it's been communicated to Wake Forest. That beeline isn't interested or Wake Forest just isn't interested in John. He's older. He's accustomed to resources the last 20 years, West Virginia, Michigan, MBA big public schools, places with a lot of resources at your not getting that it Wake Forest. His age does play a factor here because you're not stepping it will place you to win immediately. By the time you start winning your gotta be in your early 70s and he's already done a lot of his best work. I don't think he's going to have greater things happen that way.

Then he had at prior stops, then this is the kicker.

Some experience coaching in a power six conference. I think this eliminates a few guys that people like like a Wes Miller like a Lavelle Mouton every modern day Wake Forest coach that's been hired.

The last 30 years has check this box. They voted and 89 he was a longtime assistant for Terry Holland at Virginia Skip Prosser. He was Xavier Dino.

He was Skip's assistant, but his delicate head coach of Colorado. Danny longtime assistant at Kansas on a national title winning team head coach at Tulsa so I can't see Wake Forest looking at the success that Wes is had at UNC Greensboro with one NCAA tournament appearance and looking at the success that Lavelle Mouton's hat in the maniac with out any other P6 P6 experience picky but that is a safe, higher thinking that that is the right place for Wake Forest debate. So we've gone through all the people just the pop popular candidates for Wake Forest. We gone through Steve Forbes gone through John beeline gone through Lavelle Mouton gone through Wes Miller who was left among those who were be improperly talked about right now. I think there are three names Pat Kelsey Russell Turner Ryan Odom only one of those three coaches have a winning percentage above 60%. That's Kelsey. I think that would be the determining factor between three pretty good candidates.

Also Odom. He had a tough year last year usually are a product or usually you did opportunity when you're on the wings of success, Odom if he just this year, if there was it NCAA tournament had the 16 one upset, maybe he does jump into a job, like Wake Forest, but following that up two years later without an NCAA tournament appearance in this past year fielding a very average 500 team. I don't think helping anybody. As for Russell Turner their logistics that make this difficult. He's at UC Irvine all across the country. 49 years old still pretty young guy just hasn't one as much as Kelsey Hass. So I think Pat Kelsey is the best candidate.

He understands Wake Forest history. I think a lot awake fans. They still believe the digs got it wrong in 2014, they still believe that they should've went harder at Chris Mack found a way to get him here because of the skip Prosser legacy.

I don't know if Chris would've ever considered seriously coming to wake, but that's how Deacon fans feel you can bring in Kelsey, who along with Dino and along with Chris Mack was an assistant for skip in Winston-Salem knows what it's like to see the Joel filled up to see successful wake teams has a lot of energy. Just follow the guy on social media and you'll see that Matt, like chest bumping people. High fives all around active on social media on campus giving's student's tickets for free seems to be a great guy and I think it would be an easy sell.

Geographically he's in the state of South Carolina's history with wake. It just makes too much sense. So I'm saying it right now. In the early stages of this coaching search process Pat Kelsey.

He is my favorite to become the next head coach of the Demon deacons. However, if you want your voice heard on the subject, 336-777-1600 were on Twitter at sports hub triad. In fact, we have a poll up there as well where I simply ask hey who do you want the coach to be with the options BM Wes Miller Ryan Odom Pat Kelsey or other, and right now, 42% of the vote is other, but the leading man I think is Wes Miller.

I feel like that's the most popular coach on the circuit. He has 38% of that but with Ryan Odom getting 11 and Pat Kelsey getting nine really appreciate simplicity and thanks you from the bottom of his twisted little congratulations he won over a complete imbecile drive with Josh grandma sports hub triad Wes Miller. He's easily the most fascinating candidate for the Wake Forest job. He's the coach most Deacon fans would like to see hired. I think based on the twitter pole at Josh Graham radio at sports hub triad. I don't see that happening at any other power conference school. Also, it should be noted. His dad is one of the five biggest donors at wake athletics or for wake Athletics. I don't know what his interest is in the job. I'd imagine it would be something he's interested in. It seems Wake Forest has him on their short list who they want to consider to be Danny Manning's replacement. I think this is what it comes down to West does not need weight in order to get a power six opportunity bought if Wes has it in his sights.

If it's his dream job to end up in Chapel Hill to be Roy Williams successor.

I think he's going to have to succeed somewhere else other than UNC Greensboro and I love you and CJ. My goodness, watching that program which was once in shambles be picked up by somebody around here somebody.

We loved watching on a championship Tar Heel team in 2005 it's been a big thrill bought I think if he wants to get the North Carolina job him being a former Tar Heel I don't think it's enough for him to make that kind of a leap because North Carolina it's one of the five best basketball jobs in America almost anybody anywhere would jump at the opportunity to take that job. I just can't see under any circumstances, North Carolina as long as Bubba Cunningham's there hiring a coach from the so con to be the head Tar Heel. I just can't see, can you imagine that, like NaturallySpeaking. How do you think that place like when North Carolina makes a coaching change. It is national, breaking news, it's all over the place doesn't matter what's happening. I think a dump at the same way John Curry dumped the news on Saturday and it wouldst, it would take over some of the draft covered if North Carolina made a coaching change all the Roy would. That's how bigoted can you imagine what the national perception is if UNC Greensboro coat Wes Miller is the guy who replaces Roy it just when it happened. The only circumstance I think Roy would pick his replacement is if it's a promotion on his staff if he recommends the Bubba or whoever the A/D is at that time for five years from now had maybe even longer than that. I don't want to sell Roy short and says I want Steve Robinson to be the guy I want Hubert Davis Hubert Davis to be my successor, or he just forces the university's hand way the Dean Smith didn't say it right before the start of the season. I'm retiring and I recommended that Bill Deatherage be the guy I could see Roy doing that is been inspired and so many that so many dead dumb ways by Dean Smith.

Why not in that way as well. We are to be joined by Roy Williams on tomorrow's show and were looking forward to that. I don't think Wes has a better option for a step up in opportunity, then at Wake Forest you have the family time now. Robert, this is where I'm interested in your perspective. Do you think Wes having a father who is one of the five biggest donors at the school helps his case or hurts his case because can you imagine if Wes goes to Wake Forest and for whatever reason it doesn't work out, he can't rebuild the program that Danny tried to rebuild that Jeff and Stella tried to rebuild. There's no way you go to that same donor and say hey, any chance you could throw in a couple million dollars to fire your son that's an awkward spot to be in right so does that deter awake or is that something that helps Wes Miller if he is in fact interested in the job got embraceable, even as the familiarity, always after with that word held it the familiarity of that word is it II just feel like there are no him, but also you can't think of things if they go bad. If this goes bad it's gonna be hard to fire him. Every time I go to a press conference with Danny Manning or Tuesday with a Clawson work in the Miller Center it up so he he's not the biggest owner I got still in Sutton that Shaw was types of McCreary's of the world but he is one of the five biggest ones. He lives in the triad. As I mentioned, I think he would be the most popular choice right now when I look at social media. Aside from the people who think that John be lines to be interested.

It's Wes Miller next. He's the guy that everybody is excited for now I think that with a grain of salt though much or if you know this Robert, but there are a lot of Tar Heel fans around in there everywhere in Winston-Salem and therein. Greensboro and they have a pretty big journalism school as well is it possible there are people that just love Wes because they got a room for the Tar Heels and that's that's why they're saying that they want Wes to be the next code like how do true Wake Forest band feel about this 36 777-1600 B in the phone number. I'd love to hear from you on Twitter at sports hub triad because aside from me what he would be the most applauded higher now here is where I kinda get bothered by people who overthink this a little bit.

I see this argument being thrown out there get can't hire Wes because at the earliest convenience. If Roy retires he's gonna trying to the Carolina job to that person. I would simply say Wake Forest has been not bad has been awful for the last 10 years, last 10 years.

In order for Wes in this hypothetical situation to be considered North Carolina as Wake Forest coach Wake Forest will have to they would have to be six sass fall in order for that to be sold to properly so to the people say oh no you can't hire Wes because he's gonna win too much, that he gets hired away from North Carolina weight hasn't done any winning at all for the last 10 years. I would just like the higher whoever can help me win right now and for the next few years right like if he takes the Carolina job. Odds are your programs in a better place than it is right now it would be seen to be a great hire.

Reminds me when I was covering a coaching change in Eddie's Carolina they hired a Duke assistant named Scotty Montgomery a few years ago and Scotty. He went the Duke.

He was an assistant their people were sent home and they've cut Cliff retires in the next few years working to lose Scotty. We can't.

This is a good Mike does some winning first before you worry about that because guess what Scotty didn't do any winning any got fired after three years he won nine games so to those concerned Wes might just take the Carolina job. After a few years. Hopefully it's after a few years of waiting that that happens it's the most fascinating candidate of the bunch. Wes Miller, we got our trading card NFL trading card war that were going to do which were excited about. Also you'll hear from Dave Millis that rule and Zion Williamson next lesson. Your drive. Josh is safe. Man Robert can have the NFL trading card war in about five minutes but we had J Vilas and Matt rule on today show and you'll hear from them in a second. However, I learned some things about Zion Williamson last night that I didn't previously know I can't think of somebody going into the NFL into the NBA or any other major sport that has been covered as much as Zion without us knowing a lot of things about him.

He doesn't share much of his personal feelings on things he doesn't really reveal a lot about himself. We just all marvel at his physical abilities and we love his personality he smiles. He's humble, a great teammate. He veers away from the spotlight. But his play is just hard to deny and also hard to escape watching in some form, but he visited with Ernie Johnson yesterday of TNT and I thought this might've been the most interesting thing of a lot.

He was talking about the injury he sustained against North Carolina. It was in Cameron tickets are going at $10,000 apart former Pres. Barack Obama. He sitting on the baseline fabric Carter he's there. Spike Lee everybody's there to see sign on and he gets hurt.

30 seconds in and this is the most vulnerable. This is the most open.

I've heard him speaking about that event a little over a year ago. All of the Roman thing that's in reality set in for me broke down as a game.

Jimbo nuclear CK do. The driver is forcing a missed part wanted at an ever I was and is there a visa watching for a few moments was hurting too much is that was my ceremony.

I was a stair moment and just that image. He's in the back room of crammed Cameron everybody came there to see him.

He thinks he's all right at first, but then he sees his mom and realizes that this is more serious than he thought and at first he's watching the game and then he doesn't want to watch it anymore. Breaking down this massive human being probably the first time he's had to deal with the hay.

I'm not able to do something I want to do physically and it's happening at the peak of my interest level or that the interest level in me back if it's still the biggest college basketball game. I've been around a long time regular-season just massive so I thought that was illuminating.

He also shared when his first dunk in game happen and how it happened. Love first was my first game high school career teammate through it and I actually I don't like Eliza Macpherson gave the settlers and their if you were able to dunk Robert how often would you be dunking like I've never been able to dunk I could touch the netting much or if that's much of an achievement at all. I never had up. I was good soccer player good runner didn't really get high in the sky by any means. There was a movie with Wesley Snipes that I think best explains my physical ability when it comes to leaping. We Harrelson was also in that movie now if I could dunk. I just like to go into every single gym in America and dunk a basketball and start my day by day dunking a basketball like the way you guys probably eat breakfast breakfast. I would start my day by dunking a basketball. I can imagine it's the best feeling ever. You just wake up and stretch your arms open that there and there's a basketball goal height paper for you. I would have a basketball goal in every room of my house and make sure it's 10 feet high and I only dunk a basketball. I've only done to basketball one time and it was with the help of now Saints defensive tackle shy total. He would buy high, no kidding, and he actually picked me up by my legs and let me dunk the ball and it was nice of shy total. It was very nice and as well on the show sometimes sure is not very personable is more of a close setting guy was try to make that happen. I'll holler at see if we can do that last thing from Zion.

Here's a guy who was sounded very Mel Kuyper asked, here's a guy I was about to say where the bingo board me check that off Zion.

He was three years old. Maybe when MJ retired but he's watching the last… Does all of us are doing the last dance Doc excuse me, everybody's watching it J Vilas Matt rule there are watching. We got Roy Williams tomorrow. I know he's watching every bit of the season. It Zion as well, but he wasn't alive to remember anything that Jordan did so.

Apparently his parents good parenting here knew he was interested in basketball and advised him hey you need to watch the greatest to watch magic watch bird and make sure you watch Michael and this is what has stood out to Zion about watching Jordan highlights but also watching the last dance as well. He said they really stay no place like somebody's watching over the first want to disappoint very excited Jasmine the first, so for him to have that Marseilles actually play with them miser throughout his career is just a lot about school perspective.

When you consider their shack.

There is a I there's Lebron.

There's Anthony Davis and then there Zion Williamson came into the NBA would just tons of high and I argue some of those guys didn't have nearly as much. I as Zion did so I thought I was a pretty cool answer and I learned more about Zion in a 20 minute interview with Ernie Johnson that I've learned in a year covering Zion at Duke last year before we get to our trading card war, let's go to John in Greensboro who wants it on the Wake Forest basketball search John what you have for me. So I think you all about the Wake Forest UK grad big fan of Wes's phone and understand the last day. I think we can pump out 100 years and then left let you connect with the practice of building up there and left the program for the next year you will years of the program turnaround. Yeah.

And I think I would universe. I think the be universally applauded for the phone call, John Wake Forest hired Wes. I really do.

You would not find criticism on my part now is he the best candidate.

This is it almost feels like since there's no competition for weight on the power six Ron no other coaching changes have been made that I feel like I'm comparing like Heidi clean room to Megan Fox to Brooklyn Decker here. So when I say I think Pat Kelsey is a better candidate for weight because of his history with Wake Forest couple NCAA tournaments, including one that would've happened this year with Winthrop. I prefer him over Wes. I feel like this is the equivalent to me saying I would prefer Brooklyn Decker over Heidi Clune, which again is it a shot at the beauty of Heidi gloom just like this.

Is it a shot. Wes Miller, who we love having on with.

Had a good relationship with saying that Pat Kelsey is probably the best candidate for what it's like a UFO and a UAP in her can't really distinguish the two. Thank you for that parking Greensboro OneWorld Lake basketball and we got our trading card war Mark what you think on wake and also dunking. I would dunk every single diamond in the basketball gym if I could dunk. What about you yeah real quick on wake up about dodging. I think a grid judge is ready. You look on twitter the well-known journalist that they think that Steve Forbes and Wes Miller are not in the mix as part of the hiring committee so that you can check out and verify yourself but just rub it on twitter and Mike Mike) dunking a duck in high school all way up until probably my graduated college and have time and weight started to show to add to the ground but felt I really dedicate myself about 30 years old, to go to a trainer. I have the light dunk and I landed directly on my back so it was worth it also felt like crap afterwards for about a week so don't you go off of it. But what about you, be careful of your old or new drug related record or thanks for the heads up license parking Greensboro okay he's referencing. I think Jeff Goodman tweet that we just saw this just came across the wire, Jeff Goodman, tweet, and he's the one that broke the Danny Manning still no change for me as far as the Wake Forest situations concerned Steve Forbes and Wes Miller remain to leaders in the clubhouse per source. I think that those two have the same agent to that's a very important thing to set.

I don't think Steve Forbes is really in the running for this. I don't it doesn't make much sense to me. No connection to North Carolina or to Wake Forest.

He is a coaches coach the same way that Bob McKillop's very respected Davidson II get the same kind of vibe with Forbes, everybody in coaching seems to love Forbes here but letting you behind the scenes here Wes Miller, Steve Forbes and Sharon and agent it would be if Jeff Goodman's getting the information from this guy. It would be in the ages best interest to say both these guys and got us here. The above interested. I think Wes Miller is being strongly considered and he should.

I just don't know about for Robert what you find so funny here this you doing the voice really is that I will let let's get ready for our trading car. Laure was due that all this means is something else. My fat yeah I don't know how we play this game will card wake and their 10 players in this pack of cards. Robert, as I have the mind until now.

You're the five categories need to place players into this week it's going to be somebody you own 3+ patents most likely to believe in conspiracy theories. Somebody was a putt putt master someone who owns a giant fish tank and most likely to ride a bike as a form of transportation I feel about you Paxil for Robert.

I think this is the most star-studded pack I've ever had you not say the same.

Even the field here.

If you believe your deck is good on I'm looking I'm looking at my field was some things here with this Peralta star-studded event that this is fun. Miller, although I don't really know me all your card so I don't care if no, I do like a Chris McCaffrey. Oh no, I don't know if you wanted that card or not, but I'm willing to trade your Chris McCaffrey for Lamont.

I know I don't need it. No I don't mean like for this day.

I mean like I would like more Jackson were not trading here man three) right okay starting with 3+ patents. I do have some significant stores in my path and I pretty confident that I'm good to win at least two of these and try to figure out who the puppetmaster is going to be pretty tough, well-known guys, but I don't know where they also gave me pretty okay, go ahead and place UAVs in real quick. I just the fish tank.

What are the traits of somebody would have a giant thing babies been like not fully like spend money on poor have a lot of money to spend on things they don't need our animals but not animals that you have to have a all right. I think I have my five ready to go was started more than three pallets roll through these 3+ Pat got Todd Gurley out there. I would go with his former teammate Aaron Donald Todd Gurley would have had to because growing up in Tarboro had the space to have more pets and I feel like with the big payday.

Even though we just got cut, he would have a lot also. He was in a commercial where he had a cat named Hulu has life support.

I think you got that one. All right second off the leaves, conspiracy theories. I got Michael's Garrett von Miller. He's a little all the spectrum you know with shanties. He likes cowboys he likes things that he might not certainly like if he was a little of the spectrum. What I win this one because Miles Garrett is trying to get us to believe in an actual NFL piercing theory that they're not like they have the audio that has basin Rudolph saying a certain word and they don't want it to be out okay. Miles Garrett police peers. When there were tied at one master video got going through breeze. Well, you got a lot of kids. I feel like what's the cheapest place you can take a lot of kids to play a sport in the batting cages going equally cheesy JJ want with the kids so yes. I think Teresa's dad drew breeze has the kids was probably better that one giant fish tank. This was the hardest one for me. I agree.

I went with Amaury Cooper just got paid you and is disappearing act; the term typically Rex Ryan with Macquarie you have a turtle pulling up Aaron Donald. I have nothing to support this on the fact that he a lot of money so I will concede that you finally won my bike as a primary form of transportation to a Chris McCaffrey man I feel like that guy would ride his bike to work late story about him still driving his old car. He drove his own car for the longest of them. McCaffrey has a very well-to-do family has a beautiful girlfriend who is worth a lot of money. I got Russell Wilson girlfriend Adam Packard Russell Wilson versus McCaffrey left one in the deck to get rides up like his primary form of transportation. Russell flooring. These vanilla I mean, what you with the Mercedes. I think Christian would live in Charlotte and ride his bicycle to everyday. We tied to a society where I do radio rock paper scissors say hello say what you're going to pick on three okay one to three rock 123123 rock 123 paper 123 others paper. Since I have a second.

Anyway talk about UFOs. You should be more worried about what we think the less you expect if Josh less you'll be disappointed.

You're on the drive with Josh Graham is realizing realize we didn't have enough time in that last segment to replace some of that ruling J villas were just awesome today if you want to listen to those interviews in their entirety. Roberts been busting it in the control room already is posted both interviews, you can listen to that iTunes Apple podcast SoundCloud Google play. Be sure to subscribe and listen to those conversations we have with the Panthers head coach and also would J villas on Wake Forest's current basketball situation will certainly continue to visit that topic all throughout the week, but we just landed another big guest for tomorrow. Robert we have Roy Williams, who's going to be with us.he's good to be in studio as well. But the commissioner of the Atlantic Coast conference John Swofford is booked for tomorrow show like apples but stick to the house that just when you think that they can't be crazy enough, here comes José Canseco like I just I see his name. I will click the link immediately because I know there is more likely to be some rambunctious bullock then nothing.

And I was not disappointed. They have you seen the story I I have and I think this might be the greatest story of the day. I can't believe were waiting until now to tell this is the quote from José Canseco can Bigfoot or alien corona virus. I need to know because I have had contact with them. You have the cardio the drop on hand, this is incredible. Continue okay so we had contact with aliens is the biggest hard for me to visit. It came after that when he said, trying to teach us how to time travel with body composition which you're not willing to do. We have tried and it has failed. Look, we can time travel. I'm willing to change anything about my body.

I cut a normal phone lose 50 pounds. Whatever we gotta do is a Canseco to be the person that they reach out to my also written here Easter egg. It was almost like your post is a Canseco is also used speeding onto a loft with 1/2 a trifle little late for everyone involved. This is not true.

Besides, José Canseco believes that the what is right with the is like this. Nostradamus asked profit and were not listening to them. Would you feel bad or would you like me you don't believe what José Sam hi, I believe all of that great stuff, I as I mentioned in the line of Islam rolling and need on on tomorrow show our thanks to Matt rule NJ villas on today's program you listening as well.

We look forward to talking you tomorrow. Ron