The Psychological Manipulation of Critical Race Theory

The psychological manipulation of critical race theory that is a topical discuss today this Independence Day weekend right here on the Christian radio program with the mission is to sharpen the biblical worldview of Christians and to share the good news of Jesus Christ.

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Thank you to our listeners for encouragement and support, and also to our national sponsor Samaritan supervisor biblical solution to healthcare can find out about us and Samaritan ministry that her website the Christian real.org now. Contrary to what the mainstream media and some evangelicals are saying about critical race theory that it's a bogeyman. Another is that it's made up and nothing to fear. Just keep moving along Christians who are even paying half attention know and see how this insidious ideology that pits whites against nonwhites is infiltrating every institution around the country. The government run public school system is become a flashpoint for heated confrontations between school boards, intent on instituting critical race theory in parents pushing back on this racist yes racist and divisive worldview. One question though that has been a little discussed is how did critical race theory become so widely accepted in promoted so quickly. In other words, how could such a blatantly wicked ideology be swallowed a hook line and sinker by so many people are guess to answer these questions is Catherine Kirsten she's a writer, lawyer and senior policy fellow at the center of the American experiment. She has written extensively on critical race theory, especially as a relates to the educational system here in Minnesota, which is likely taking place in your state as well. She's going to explain the psychological manipulation straight from the Marxist playbook that is being used to delude so many people. She will also rebut the false assertions about America that critical theorists use as a basis for their deception was get straight to the first segment of the interview with Catherine Kirsten Catherine thank you for coming on the Christian real radio program today to talk about critical race theory in New Britain to excellent columns recently which we have linked at our website. The real view.org and the first is titled the revolution in Minnesota schools and I just want to read the first paragraph you say today, a revolution of sorts is underway in many Minnesota schools in the name of ending white supremacy and systemic racism. School districts are falling over themselves to promote a radical new vision of American society. The upside down thought world quote racial equity advances in the name of justice and harmony, yet its fundamental premise is deeply divisive. It teaches that life is a relentless power struggle and splits human beings into two hostile camps, white and nonwhite labeling whites as perpetual Oakcrest servers and by pockets acronym for black indigenous and people of color as perpetual victims, and you go onto to give some examples of this going on and some of the local school districts� At the foundation by asking Catherine, where did this critical race theory ideology come from that white supremacy and systemic racism exist in our country again systemic. That means it's all throughout the system that exist in the need to be ended. Fundamental claim is as absurd right.

This is a country that recently twice elected a black president's and now has a a black vice presidents. We know that people like Oprah Winfrey primed James to some of the highest earners in our nation under most admired people lately that the initial premise is absurd, but this arose, I think in the least, and in relatively recent historical memory. With the rise of all the new left in the student revolution in the 1960s. I actually started college in 1969 and I remember this very well, but this was the time when because of student protests, etc. we saw more and more so-called oppression studies departments of black studies women studies kinds of departments that that politicized higher education starting at that time very very much permeating overtime, teachers, colleges, and now we have a full generation couple generations of people who have gone through the University and been exposed to this kind of oppression studies racial identity politics and and these this way of thought is rooted in neo-Marxist critical theory and that of course is the. The idea that used to be under March the the proletariat and the bourgeoisie were in this relentless zero-sum power struggle and that's what life is is it's entirely about power with this with this mindset abuts. This is all built I think on that kind of ideological structure and then you look at what happened in our society with the racial learning gap lawsuits about that equity plans, none of this has really helped that much when it comes to some of the epic. The difference is an outcome that we've seen so I think people are reacting to that with our family break down what our secularization. There's this kind of growing communal vacuum of meaning and purpose, and in many people are just kind of seduced into this simplistic way of explaining these very very complex problems. Catherine Kirsten with us today on the Christian review radio program senior policy fellow at the center of the American experiment website is American experiment.org and one interesting thing that I think leaves people totally confused about critical race theory is the fact that being colorblind and you write in your column are racial equity advocates preach the opposite, not on the web. Martin Luther King Jr. said about not don't be judge on the color of their skin but the content of their character that that's pending discarded skin color. Your right, not personal character determines who a person is astonishingly your right and seemingly overnight, Minnesota students are now being taught that kings colorblind ideal is in fact racist. How how did that get Jennison the fact that to be colorblind is a virtue.

How did that get jettisoned so quickly. I think you could say that is a kind of classical liberal idea based on the notion of equality people have equal dignity right size it's it's a very fundamental Judeo-Christian concepts. They are individuals.

We must respect the dignity of all that is very inconsistent with a neo-Marxist critical race theory point of view which does see life as a simplistic kind of power struggle between oppressed and oppressors. These it again.

These were historically the bourgeoisie, the wealthier middle-class people versus the proletariat, the working class and in Marxist view that approach to a kind of revolutionary transformation doesn't work in America that was proved over many decades.

This new approach the oaks were taking advantage of America's racial history and we all know that slavery existed. It was that we inherited it from the British Empire. The British again were among the first people to to abolish slavery.

Nevertheless week we had that in Jim Crow in our past and people people understand that they know so little about American history unfortunate because our schools have been so remiss in teaching accurate American history for the last 40 years that's easily easily led astray on this.

I think this is the rise of the new left Newspeak.

This is a term that George Orwell coined in 1984, and the idea is reduced get the left creates these morally loaded terms like systemic racism or white fragility. Let's white supremacy that these words are designed to confuse people and to make it really hard to disagree because if you if you're not an antiracist of the way they define it. Then of course you're a racist right of people. People are confused by the fact that these these commonsense words have now been redefined in subtle ways, and it's been very effective in confusing people, and in a way, the defendant just left your writing another word is tolerance that you have to be a word of the left that was was respecting other viewpoints, even if you disagree with them different different than affirmation but tolerances we can both live together even if we disagree you write in your column. Teachers worry that refusal to give into this groupthink could cost them their job. Critical race Terry District 197 which is in West St. Paul in that area superintendent Peter Olson's dog made the threat explicit quote. If you think were going or being too sensitive to politically correct you said in a speech to staff. I would encourage you to look elsewhere for employment as I do not believe that you will feel aligned with what he called the quote difficult and uncomfortable work I had. I mean that this is this is a new definition of the colorblind is out the window, but so was being tolerant or action being diverse it another another viewpoint. So how did this one get jettisoned as well. It means the opposite of what it's common sense meaning is diverse. Now it doesn't mean it out tolerance for different points of view it. Everybody knows that what it really means is that if you dare to disagree saying the teacher professional development seminar.

You will be declared a nonperson you will be branded as a racist. These are these are techniques of emotional blackmail that have been used very successfully by influencers of all kinds in the last couple centuries, basically wet, but not using our natural fear of social isolation that the left and right closest to the side using this this morally loaded Newspeak you been talking about it and letting people know that if they dare to disagree. They will be branded as bigots and racists socially ostracize perhaps losing their job. This this is it was terrifying, and it's it's really something quite new in American history, but not when it comes to repressive regimes in other parts the world. So what you do about that is just best for someone who dissents her disagree just speak up and stand up and speak the truth is that the best way to do it no matter what the cost would you recommend you have to look at every situation individually right. What are the stakes, etc. I think that the first thing that we must do is basically educate everybody help them understand that they are being manipulated for four reasons that that benefit the people who want to increase their power and frankly their their financial bottom line. Just think of all the new diversity consultants who have been hired all the new equity consultants and are in our schools.

Some of these people are being paid. Unbelievable Psalms for a few hours of lecturing and hectoring. I teachers so people need to understand number one. This language is being used to manipulate you. Number two I think people need to band together it's really hard to at least publicly stand up against some of this but it's easier when you have a group of like-minded people and you don't just you don't just criticize it. "Critical race theory or black lives matter and its influence in your schools but you you talk about what your four you know you talk about Martin Luther King. You talk about the importance of our common humanity and in the dignity of all human beings.

You say I like no matter what you say.

I refuse to to teach my children as you do that people are determined by their skin color. I believe everyone is an unique individual and should be respected aside meet you articulate what you believe frankly just if we only caught the golden rule in our schools. I will nobody be thinking about you know all this sort of equity reeducation, etc. all these new vocabulary words, etc. we would need to.

It's it's common sense really really is Catherine Kirsten with us today in the Christian rule you talking about the psychological manipulation, critical race, you're really getting that manipulation just a second here. She's a writer turning senior policy fellow at the center of the American experiment website is American experiment that will have a link to my website as well. The Christian worldview returns in just a moment. David Wheaton here volunteer host of the Christian review radio program. Listeners are often surprised to learn that we as a ministry pay for air time on the radio station website or app on which you hear the program.

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This one is one more question just about how this is exposed so much before we get into how it how people are being manipulated and accepting it so quickly you talk about George Floyd's death. There are some would say his murder last year and in May 2020 is accelerating as being the instigation point for all of a sudden this is exploding. Talk about going viral use at that expression. It seems that that was a pivotal moment in our country. It happened right here in the Twin Cities of Minneapolis.

Certainly there been other police interactions that have gone wrong in Ferguson in different areas or places around the country. But why was that particular one seem to be the tipping point. Or maybe you will think it was but it seems to me to be a tipping point for the explosion of critical race theory. COBIT actually had a fair amount to to do with that.

People being so isolated people being so kind of vulnerable.

Psychologically, I think when you combine that in these thought manipulation techniques that that are being used with the fact that black lives matter was then that the global fund was then in place had as a significant bankroll which is become course far more healthy.

Let's say since that that the Floyd's incident and then you can debate the people on the left who who are agitators who do work through identity politics are waiting for the opportune moments right that that the guru of political organizing. Follow Linsky taught that 50 years ago that you wait for the opportune moment and then you you move-in when you combine that with the rise of social media and woke capitalism right you even now got Delta Air Lines and Coca-Cola and Nike.

Even I think in all five years ago we wouldn't have seen them piling on scene at this mass chucker taught that the media entertainment big business, etc. all kind of combining it in this moment to to force through this this new mindset of all five systemic racism and white supremacy.

Do the teachers unions, teachers unions, big time of supported this for number all the stuff going on for at least 10 years longer than that, but this is your right David.

This was the crystallizing moments when you know of that success was right around the corner for them.

My little theory that money isn't the bottom line in life that worldview or ideologies after the bottom on in life in red.

You correct me if I'm wrong here, though, because why would big business. All these companies be falling over themselves donating a black lives matter being woken so forth.

Do they really think it's good for their bottom line is that what it is, or is it truly that they ideologically agree with this worldview I think it's both because bear in mind Howard Zinn's book on American history. He was he was a Marxist agitator. Basically that book which is widespread in American high schools was published first in 1980 is 41 years ago. It also the American people have have received a very poor and and and misinformed education about our history for many years and colleges just in a ramped up in colleges over the last well since the 60s so the people running these corporations have been shaped by this adversary culture and in many respects, but there's a new book out called woke Inc. actually think is coming out in August, but I heard the author of it.

Speak recently. It is phenomenal book explaining the dynamics of big business. The unholy alliance between big business Silicon Valley at the big New York but hedge funds and all that with the wet with the with the occupy Wall Street member that yes what that was, what, when, was that just just like at just a few years ago and one of his points is that these big corporations can buy off the left can buy off these very well finance finance left-wing agitators to a good extent by a kind of getting out in front of them with in with their PRN and that kind of thing and now black rock I've read is demanding that anyone who wants financing through them for a new venture must have a quote diverse board that meet certain qualifications. This has nothing to do with maximizing shareholder profits right which is supposed to be what business is all about and staying out of politics but more and more I think we see it as an is an attempt to buy off the left and because there's kind of a general sympathy for this adversary culture mindset on the part of people educated elite universities from Catherine Kirsten with us today in the Christian rule you were talking about the psychological manipulation of critical race theory want to get into that now how it's been so quickly imbibed by so much of the country. Catherine is a senior policy fellow at the center of the American experiment.

I just want to read a couple paragraphs you think this. This sets up the manipulation you been alluding to, so, so far in our conversation you say ideologues striving to reshape students belief in your columns are really what the educational system, but is more broadly being used on broader society, but under reshape students beliefs about the role of race in America have found quote racial equity to be an ideal vehicle.

It's a framework that skillfully plays on Americans desire to atone for the more reprehensible moments of our nation's racial history and you go into how this racial equity lessens how these destabilize a student's personal identity or a person personal identity. You say that conditions white children to question their ability to grasp reality and act as they intend in the world.

It warns that they can take no pride in their accomplishments because they are merely a function of white privilege. It insists they routinely harm their nonwhite classmates by committing micro-aggressions of which they aren't even aware it's a no-win situation if they think they aren't racist. This just proves how racist they are the messages that white skin is a source of self-deception, guilt and shame that goes on from there you go in your, talk about black children to have it drummed into their heads that they lack self-awareness and self agency as victims of white supremacy. They are told they bear no responsibility for their behavior and can't even meet minimal standards like turning in their assignments on time or thinking logically.

They are constantly urged to feel anger and resentment and you going to teachers how they are manipulated as well. They don't understand the white teachers have no clue about. You know how they're oppressing everyone so forth.

You finish pressing the goal of this manipulation is to convince students and teachers they must turn for guidance to their enlightened bettors activists who alone can see reality and understand justice if they are to atone for guilt. The whites or viewed avoid being dupes. The Blacks said that so well that jumped off the page to me as I read the column and just explain how this manipulation takes place. This again is another kind of Marxist concept of false consciousness write the the Vanguard the. The Marxist elite thinkers. Their idea originally under under Lenin was that they truly understand the problem that that the workers didn't understand they were being exploited and they had to turn to these college-educated's in brilliant self-styled leaders. The Marxist Vanguard in order to see that they were oppressed and ends in what they needed to do to to remove the oppressors. This is the very same concept that white kids are victims of false consciousness. They don't know that they they really are not responsible for their for their own successes. Black kids don't understand the extent to which there oppressed. These are these are all techniques that are are used by thought manipulators and what really kind of clued me into this is sort of underpinning up what were seeing now was that back in now. I don't know 2014 are so these kinds of things.

This comes racial curricula, etc. new race-based rules were invading the St. Paul school system and I spoke with a teacher there named Aaron Benner a black teacher who was one of the few who had the courage to stand up before the St. Paul school board and say you are ruining children's lives with this supposedly empathetic new approach you are taking. He told me afterwards that the professional development training. She and other teachers are required to endure in St. Paul resembled indoctrination into occult and I've heard this over and over in recent years from other teachers who have had to go through similar training so people who who are pulled and the cults are manipulated through. You could say techniques of salesmanship and and propaganda and one of the most important were the first is to destabilize this sense of self, so that these people question their own ability to make decisions and understand reality and look to self-styled leaders and that's what you're talking about here.

You mentioned that first point this manipulation that racial equity lessens destabilize a student's personal identity that so you just talked about you and one more point on this manipulation. You said .2 is ideologues introduce an alternate system of reality and restrict access to ideas that challenge it. Racial equity advocates make the assertion American 2020 is systemically racist. That's absurd on its face, you write our nation rescinded two-term black president and immigrants of all colors have flocked here and continue to do so home I might add, they found unparalleled opportunity and prosperity in this country.

Activists use emotional blackmail to pressure students to buy into their ideology.

Those who question it are denounced and shunned as racist. You mentioned that while those who comply are praised as quote allies are on the right side of quote history thought reform is particularly effective when it is framed as a movement for an enlightened delete and naysayers are repudiated as inferior so explain just the second point a bit to how the justice social pressure to conform. Otherwise, you're like you just tell your nonperson you're in the wrong side of history first. So this is self doubt and confusion with this morally loaded language.

If you don't agree with them. Your you're a bad person and then they present this new way to understand reality and that's where the terms like systemic racism, what white supremacy, etc. come in and and people can be easily assessable in their young easily confused by this. This new lingo that their hearing for the first time so some of that that the fundamental concept behind this new lingo are racial essentialism, meaning that your skin color determines who you are, there's there's a pressure to two to keep you from looking at alternative ways of thinking by branding you as a bigot.

If you do so and getting you to submerge your individual identity into a larger racial identity and then to accept if your white collective guilt right you are responsible for what was done to 400 years ago by some people who who shared your skin color and if you if you bring all these these three kinds of techniques together if you first undermine people's sense of self and their sense of moral agency and then you introduce this new close to some of reality, and they can even think about her question is what micro-aggressions are, you know, if you say no I'm not guilty of all of this up and they said all that proves even more how racist you are because you know that you're doing this so so that kind of techniques, turns kids away from alternative explanations for racial disparities of various kinds, and then the last is this emotional blackmail blackmail tactic and everybody call you Steve. You see this in some classrooms where kids are told to stand up if they if they disagree and and don't think that there racist or white supremacy is real and is out of the cultural Revolution in China where where people who have the guts to separate themselves are shame there's a kind of a figurative dumpster near their heads all working together very effectively make our dog holds the Christian worldview returns in just a moment. Courtney was 17 weeks pregnant when she and her husband Greg learned that their son Sheppard had a heart condition that would require multiple surgeries were uncertain about his future Samaritan is connected with another Samaritan members who began to pray and share the financial needs of the pregnancy and the medical care.

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The senior policy fellow at the center of the American experiment we have the website linked@thechristianruleof.org. Also, the two columns that were covering today in the program. You really should read both of these, they will give you a much fuller understanding of what is taking place as are both linked our website the Christian real view.org but to get into this is Independence Day weekend and where we celebrate and remember the signing of the Declaration of Independence and all the values and principles that that this country was built upon that are being withdrawn. Assuming a systemic that is systemically being removed from our our schools across the country teaching the accurate American history you write in your second column, which will talk about edgy cracks unleashed again about Minnesota schools. You say the Minnesota Department of Education intends to mandate that your first grader learn quote to recognize stereotypes biased speech and injustice at the institutional or systemic level that does a first grader your middle school or will be drilled and how his court identity is a function of his skin color. Your highschooler would be required to explain that Europeans invented quote whiteness that America's 19th-century westward expansion was the shameful product of whiteness. Christianity and capitalism unquote right so this is Independence Day weekend and giving us a history lesson correcting the history of what the Minnesota Department of education try to do here. Talk about the, the founding of America, the principles upon which it was founded and also the westward expansion people I think will think yeah well we just got a mold or white people just mowed down the Indians and the mass genocide is the country move Weston should have his collective guilt over this in terms of the American founding, Abraham Lincoln called this country to the last world best last best hope.

Essentially, because this was that the first experiment in ordered liberty to stay on unheard of in world history, our great American experiment was built on principles of equality and human rights that existed nowhere else at the time and but they weren't utopian know we we understand that human beings are founders did that that they are flawed. They are selfish.

They are greedy, etc. that's why we need a Bill of Rights. That's why we need checks and balances and and that's the kind of of system not like the French Revolution, which was a utopian project that ended in the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people are founders got it right at and in fact the standards of equality and human rights that leftists now claim to judge our country by and find it so so terribly wanting those arose only in the West and I and what they want to do now is to cut down the tree of Western civilization into what they call euros centrism are white supremacy, but they still want it sprouts and end. Here's an interesting little anecdote I I talked recently with a black woman who was a janitor and at a place where I I found myself she was from the Ivory Coast and we began to talk and she said to me, America is heaven. She said it over and over. I said what you mean. She said this is a place where when I when I called the police they come and they helped me. This is a place where I work hard I get a head where I am viewed because of on on the basis of my character. Not the color of my skin. I thought only the people trying to tear down our school system could hear the voice of a real person who came here for the right reasons and saw and found what she was what she was hoping to find some in terms of westward expansion. Again, we are not perfect people right you look at what happened around the world. When an advanced civilization encountered a prehistoric group of people who work didn't have the written language. They didn't have the use of metal he had invented the wheel, etc. you can have a clash of civilizations, but in this country, although of course we fell short number of respects here in Minnesota for example land. There were treaties negotiated the other Dakota Indians were paid annuities. This was extremely parts sparsely settled by the weight Minnesota. We were something like 6 to 8000 Dakota Indians here and now. 1821.

I've forgotten the number of acres was take.

Let's say in all because of hundreds of square miles, something like that per per Indian and they mostly lived along the rivers and there were there were treaties that that were that were were contracted and largely fulfilled and there were tremendous benefits that were brought to to basically hunter gatherer people. They got a written language they they had the opportunity today for for modern healthcare. I know they they've got all lives that are so much easier and more comfortable to wait all of us do, then they did back in 1821 so it's obviously a mixed story, but overall when you look at world history you look as you look at the fact that the Dakota Indians moved down to the Twin Cities area in let's say a little after 1700 and they did not negotiate treaties with the Iowa alto Indians who lived there. They killed them.

They drove them out.

They enslaved their all human beings are flawed so that we we try to understand what we look at history and I we we come out quite well in that respect. Moving forward here.

Catherine just just to what the effect of this critical race theory. The manipulation going on the revision of history going on what what is going to be the impact of that first on students who go through this and get everything taught to them. A completely different way revising of history. Everything is taught through this lens of oppressor and oppressed what is going to be the impact of of on students coming through that and then can a nation part two of the question is can the nation actually survive this kind of self-loathing. In other words, we have a terrible country it's built on white supremacy oppressed the bipod people black condition of people of color. It's inherently unjust, unfair, can a nation really survive that excellent questions in terms of what what will happen to students. I think of an anecdote because one of my friends actually somebody click it was center of the American experiment told me recently. He said he had his granddaughter in the car they were driving somewhere. She looked down at the floor and she saw 1/4 and so she said oh that's that's a bad man� Disses George Washington and her grandfather sold. What was he types in which he was asleep on the own slaves are our first president was a bad man.

In fact, I've read somewhere that something like half of all American elementary schools and some survey said that they thought that all American states had once had slaves. This kind of gross gross distortion of history really I think steals from our children their birthright that that this wonderful legacy of freedom. The most mysterious, most prosperous nation in world history that their ancestors sacrifice to create and in oh. In many cases died in military actions in order to pass this on to them. This is being this is being stolen from them and along with that the be the sense of gratitude. All of us should feel about the opportunities we we have in life is so important for us to be for for human flourishing to to have a realistic sense of of the blessings that that you been given in a hopeful sense about the future and a sense of personal accountability and responsibility. It is no democracy doesn't continue on, unless it's renewed with every every generation. All of those insights are our art, our children to be deprived of an wooden excellent question. I don't think we can point to another society in history where this kind of self-inflicted wound to know this kind of self-loathing as you described it, I has been inflicted by elites on ordinary citizens.

Certainly when you look at what our greatest adversary.

Now, communist China, they are doing just the opposite of what we are doing them a new patriotic citizenship initiative in their in their schools and telling their students what a marvelous place. China is well will telling our students what a terrible place.

They live in, then who wants the defendants.

So if course it's all being it will become vulnerable to people who are self-interested in terms of power transforming the system so that they they can help to create a new system. Rights if it white supremacy means that all of our institutions and norms have to be transformed, removed, then somebody else is going to be building new ones and saw it's not going to be country. I think that any of us want to live in just want to conclude the reading one final paragraph of your your column here by recruiting students into identity politics you write you will drive toxic wedges between children that's true create frictions and resentments that permeate their school day and amplify the depression and anxiety already afflicts so many of our young people. Minority students will suffer most. They will come to see themselves as victims instead of learning. The success formula of having character resilience and hard work that has lifted so many both white and black, even in the face of discrimination and adversity. Finally, this new racialist ideology is deadly for our democratic way of life. America's freedom and prosperity are based not on shared race or ethnicity, but on an allegiance to shared principles, including human beings unique dignity and unalienable rights to life, liberty, and The Pursuit of Happyness straight from the Declaration of Independence.

We celebrate this weekend. He said the current administration.

All this, a nationally and locally here in Minnesota us versus them ideology. Taken to its logical conclusion denies the very possibility of democratic governance. Now I think we still have a representative republic Republic cation from a standpoint of electors.

I'm not sure though. I don't know this last election. Lots of abnormalities and so forth. Whether we are garbled actually makes a difference in more noise, big statement, but I think there is questions why don't people. The vast majority of people in America see this critical race theory for the toxic garbage that it is invoked.

Other people in office who don't perpetuate this wire school boards and other pleasant people were voted in office wire governors and presidents voted into office by people who perpetuate this this godless worldview. That of course is an excellent question. I think we we may be seeing things start to turn around here on a on a hopeful note, our center of the American experiment is creating a parent toolkit kind of a one-stop resource hub for parents who want to push back fight back against this, we are seeing these pop up all over the country. Now it's very heartening.

There's a new organization called the foundation against intolerance and racism. These are people from center-right to centerleft who are very concerned about this starting chapters all over the country creating alternative curricula lining parents up with legal representation. When this kind of thing invades their schools. There's another group called parents defending education doing the same thing. Teaching parents how to do FOIA request to find out what's really going on in their schools. I think people people are really beginning now that culvert is really winding down. I think it beginning to understand that this is a real threat. So we find it very heartening.

The kind of response that we are increasingly getting to our education apps. We've had a 17 city tour of Minnesota.

We've had hundreds of people come out and saw we created a portal for them on these social studies standards you described to register their objections. 80% of all the objections that the Department of Education got here in the state or from our the citizens, we inform so so I think where we are to see some very hopeful developments here Catherine thank you for coming on the Christian review today, but even more, just the way you write so insightfully about these this worldview that is so divisive and so harmful to not only our country but to people to souls of Mrs. Mrs. Wright had a lethal and accurate so we just wish you the best and all of God's best in grace to you Catherine thanks in my statement. Thanks for having me on the program. We hope you enjoy the interview with Catherine Kirsten today. You can find out more about her in the center for the American experiment by going to our website the Christian real view.org there are links to both of the columns we discussed there today as well. She is a very good handle on critical race theory know we covered a couple times recently but question about how it's been advanced so quickly is an interesting one. Once she addresses in one of those columns. If there is a passage of Scripture that describes the worldview of critical race theory would be Colossians 2 and this is where the apostle Paul is writing to the church in color say, which is near Leo to see of that lukewarm church that Christ describes in Revelation. This is a worldly minded church. So this is why Paul writes in Colossians chapter 2 starting in verse eight he says see to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ. This is exactly what critical race theory does it. It takes minds captive people begin to live in an alternate false reality all things based on a ally, secondly, that verse talks about empty deception, it is empty deception.

It deceives people into believing something that's not true. When you believe ally you just get deeper and deeper into and go further in the wrong direction. The passage also talks about. According to the tradition of men, it's it really is. This is a a a worldview that is based on the fallen, sinful human reasoning, not a biblical worldview, but fallen human reasoning, and finally that passage says according to the elementary principles of the world. It is based on a false notion even the racial aspect of it is based on a false nation that there are multiple races, of course, there are not there just one race, the human race. People of different skin colors, ethnicities and so forth but is only one race human race that God made in God calls us to treat each other individually as people not based on the color of our skin or ethnicity.

In the next verse, verse nine gives the contrast it says for in Christ all the fullness of deity dwells in bodily form and in him. If you're a believer you have been made complete and he Christ is the head over all rule and authority. In other words, if you have repented of your sin and put your faith, your trust, your belief in the person of Christ and his work for you on the cross. You can be complete or whole, not in captivity or bondage to these false philosophies that come and go and have a worldview that is sound that truthfully understands what is going on in the world. So thank you for listening to the Christian review today.

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