Chris McClain, from Mac Attack on WFNZ in Charlotte joins Adam to discuss the latest video Dan Orlovsky released yesterday outing some of the Carolina Panthers offensive plays.

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Red meat to the beast, and the thrust of this is Christian McCaffrey's positioning in relation to Baker Mayfield in shotgun formations at the snap as Orlovsky points out, and he says repeatedly. I am not cherry picking here. This happened all game long get to that limit Christian McCaffrey 1 yard behind Baker Mayfield weathers to the left or to the right. It's an automatic run or an RPO if Christian McCaffrey is as he said at the same level hip to hip with Baker McCaffrey either side.

It's a pass and all the highlights. Dan Orlovsky showed good news I think was for five back it up. I would submit that the Panthers ran a lot more than 45. Please put it away so here's like I just set it up here as Orlovsky wrapping up the segment. Right now the Carolina Panthers are giving away the play whether run or pass the defenses center telling everybody to Baker Mayfield playing great for death or office of Isaac dominant unit but every single snap in these games.

Christian McCaffrey's 1 yard behind Baker Mayfield in the shotgun is a Ron or an RPO Christian McCaffrey is next to Baker Mayfield with his death is a pass that is unacceptable in the NFL. The Carolina Panthers coaching staff right if Dan Orlovsky is correct. Oy right.

Okay we don't need any more ammunition to talk about this with Chris McLean from the back deck in Charlotte in about 10. We don't need any more ammunition to think that the NFL is too much for Matt rule. Although this would probably be more of a Ben Mac Adu problem that a Matt rule problem with my man Coach Pete through the capital financial advisory group were talking retirement coach.

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We all felt was kind of one of those guys who just happened to be a head coach for the Giants for a hot minute. I am not defending the current coaching regime.

But I also think it's it's sort of outrageous to even suggest that a coaching staff would be so naïve, so dumb as to essentially tell the other team. What plays were running everything on time just as much as I don't like Matt rule as a coach I like again. I keep saying this, I like Matt rule is a guy I just can't go there and say that this is what they do every time I unlock it I will make the joke with Chris McLean in about eight minutes now, that may be what Matt rule is doing is setting up the long con.

So the saints are coming in. They've now seeing this piece. Oh look at that. Every time McCaffrey I see what he's doing now is flip and go the other way reverse a great time. McCaffrey is 1 yard deep in the backfield behind Mayfield. They're going to throw it and every time he lined up with your hip day. Now there to run it. That's slick yeah I don't know I don't. Let's help. Maybe I is no way. It's every play is just no way to play but it certainly meant made for a good two minute segment that got Panthers fans even more riled up ahead, I'll be watching Sunday.

Well I know you will and will be will be logging this yard is your blood so 11 times in Derby. I got here comes is wrong to do that on Sunday watching the Panthers and the saints because we been sentenced to watch that part to get to the next game actually became last night with the Browns ran away from the Steelers final score was 29 to 14. I don't know where all the points came from this game. I didn't think were going to have any points in this game. Pittsburgh was in good shape. I thought before the half at 1413 but if were being honest Browns with a better team, even in the first that they were the better team throughout the game. Jacoby percent company they had to win this game based on losing at home to the Jets the previous week, especially in the manner in which a loss of the Jets and percent. I thought played very well for sure. Just because it was it is such a short week you know and you know. The DFA I think that the right men in a room to be able to get past it in the nothing yesterday.

Call today and we knew it was going to be easy and we had a look each other in the face and looking to put ourselves in the mirror and say like this and like Mamacita is going all like the longer we spoke about that when we will be where we need to be for this game and the guys asked Bill and came out tonight.again, I don't believe it was clearly the better team.

The rest for hundred 71 yards. Pittsburgh is I hope it's again other Pittsburgh play pretty good. I thought they were in good shape.

Mr. Minsky was really good in the first half just before the half one point lead just on the other side of midfield with enough time to pick up another 10 or 15 yards and get Chris Boswell, one of the best kickers in league on the field with the chance to make it.

I mean 1713. Is this not insurmountable.

What little bit more positive feel going in the locker room. I mean they were just mass at that point all they were gushing over met Canada's offense and that all ended with four wood was a four plays or three plays. Whatever on the end zone triggers the roles that would six seconds left is a 4 yard completion with the clock expired like doing here anyway to rescue again. I thought played a good first half on where tonic got away follow the rhythm and then just something pleasant with nutrition plays in the second half that if you get those plays might end of story. Just ahead on himself. I think a few more details in there that want to go back to watching the film I felt like I have just as we need to have it. We just didn't watch films again. I thought Mitch played well in the first half. The fact that the Steelers forget about not getting a field goal attempt. The fact that would six seconds left. They didn't throw it into the end zone from the plus side of the field.

I just don't understand.

I don't for the life of me understand how that is allowed just I just don't will get a couple more things in here before we talk to Chris McLean for those people who thought I was jumping the gun on the year-long suspension for inmate Doka and you know who you are. He did get a one-year suspension by the Celtics, not by the league. He apologized and now the Celtics are trying to back up their Eastern conference title with an interim coach is Jay Williams from ESPN on the suspension. If it was consensual. Like why wouldn't that be the 2025 games like to me a kid there was consent there okay you violate this put your coming off being to a championship game you're on the verge of your team being the best team in the Eastern conference along with the Milwaukee Bucks and that's right there again. Let's be real about what owners value within a day winning championships winning rights progressively got him yet so just please me to think and it leads to the question key. What else is there that would deem the team to lead to a year long suspension that's what I've been saying there's more to this story that they are not saying WIC gross back is they call him the governor of the Boston Celtics. She is in charge of the situation and explains how they are moving forward with an interim coach suspension is for a season through June 30 and will make a determination at a later time about you make future with us and that'll be discussed. Another time, and has not been decided that the fourth. I am concerned about the situation and its impact on everybody. The Celtics organization and I do hope this represents the beginning of a new chapter in the chance to turn the page and move forward with things. To some extent resolved and I'm personally very confident in the people we have here starting with my partner and how to best for Brad Stevens and everybody on the staff roster and the training staff in the front office and in the business office Celtics stand together as a family we can move forward. This is this is more than a consensual relationship it has to be if Jay said look, if it's a consensual relationship even though it is a violation of team policy. I don't even think it would've been 25 games.

I think would've in the preseason, and I think it would've been fine and I think we been moving on. It's just not the same as a regular job. I am sorry. It's just not agent was Norske from ESPN also added in his report that there is no guarantee that you don't cover date Rick regains his position next year and there is nothing but uncertainty about really whether email you don't will ever coach the Boston Celtics again not only spaghetti suspended for the season. Boston has not committed that he would be back next season and certainly is and this is still a coach who is going to garner interest around the league. The final chapter of his coaching career.

I don't think is been written, and I think there is the possibility that they're going the other teams will be interested in him maybe as soon as the season but he made Oka and Brad Stevens was in. This was a very close relationship suspension is certainly afraid. I think the trust relationship. There will see if they can rebuild it missed can be hard now. Boston gets through this mean I'm not speculating that they can't.

This is way more serious than a consensual relationship has to be because if it wasn't, they wouldn't have done this, they wouldn't have taken a really really good coach and basically me for the for all intensive purposes. They just fired on real quick presence got in Charlotte for one United States closer than the that score might indicate, for the five matches could have gone either way. One of them obviously did go the way the Internet of the internationals but man they better do some work today and they are think the fourth match is about to take the course. I will talk about that, although I'm sure Chris McLean might be headed out there. The Mac from Mac attack WF NZ mornings in Charlotte joins us on the road show what is going on here I go.

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Now I am not only this weekend on the couch Saturday am at the Packer game on Sunday, but I will say this, that, that a president talking to the US is a lot more fun to watch. Settling our men's docketing mother earlier today. I know your soccer man that was ugly yeah to Sunil no-show, uninspired against Japan yeah Japan is not great either. Yes I'm tired of trying to convince myself it didn't matter.

It was just a friendly but every every time they take the field, it matters to me how much how much mileage did you get out of the Dan Orlovsky video this morning & won't you work. About about one talk about about something we have talked about the Saints game and it possibly critically the game they actually win the Orlovsky thing had everybody's attention because first of all, Orlovsky was, you know, beside himself as unacceptable coaching malpractice that he had never seen anything like this in the NFL again notepad up and look at that they're already down on his coaching staff will in general Mac to do is… A great start. Obviously starting panda fans looked at this and were concerned, like managing staff even more of a joke than we thought and I know this. I watch the plays back this morning.

You know it all young dumb play. I'll say that Adam is not 100% right like to what Dan was saying in terms of like where McCaffrey was lined up in a shotgun.

The play was predictable, but I'll be damned if it wasn't close. I might have been like 29, 32, snaps, or exactly what he saying, so if the other team. The Giants pick up on that are gaps in their get the right most of the damn time. You know it. List the concerns about this staff.

I guess Chris McLean Mac from Mac attack in Charlotte WF NZ mornings I spoke to a good friend of mine. I sent him the video he has experience in coaching. I just leave it at that end and he said there is no question that there is something to be alarmed at their but he also says that because the coaches aren't really dumb we we probably all agree that Matt Ruhl is in over his head in the NFL think there is much as I like that rule as a guide to keep saying that whenever you say that like it's a nice personality but the he's he's clearly in over his head, but what what this guy told me was that I am sure that they have a play that they just obviously didn't use against the Giants, for whatever reason, where they will line up McCaffrey hip to hip with Mayfield and run it out of that play. I know I was joking with you on twitter today about this just the long con that there went there waiting for some real work of flip on the Saints but they've got to have other options, but RPO guy anyway.

But regardless, they've got to have other options out of the same formation they just don't know they have the personnel to do anything right. We got and that I will look like they ran the ball anytime. McCaffrey was side-by-side with with Baker last week, but they did they do the opposite of what Orlovsky was saying that Pell was on the ones where McCaffrey was behind them by the yard and every one of those with a 26 yard play action to teach a more early first app on their only touchdown drive the game. I don't know like did they do it three times in the first staff. They ran it met formation for the setting that up in the second half.

I didn't do much credit. Out of this, but you could be right. Listen to their personnel issues with this game as well. Bomber Adam Oliva. I believe that you know Baker's upgrade.

I believe that the coaching staff moves like even back when he was in OC for two years with the giant got Eli going to cut down the larger sections of the Linux believe it's better but I think I thought it was performing better than this. I really thought they were improved and here we go to game for the same thing can't figure out a way to close up look okay always goes wrong like you know and early. I don't believe that they could put all their bad into one area of the football games back from Mac attack is joining us here in the autumn gold show what they put Christian McCaffrey on the injured list if he will or is on the on the injury report on the Angeles on the injury report for yesterday's practice when they knew he was going to practice in full today and and he said he was perfectly healthy one to say that day and then at the end if you have to put them on the on the injury report because gambling the NFL wants that once those things as accurate as possible. Then you put them that you know is questionable with an ankle what they do that yesterday to create more issues for themselves. A great question because remember a couple weeks ago got on and they put that on the injury report and my lower grantor fans lost their mind like word mamas do when the freak out like I got a cut on like five-year-old had that the soccer game you'd like.

Tell them to toughen up. You know, so I don't know.

And then the day have to do it then they answered and what they just make sure they follow protocols right like a Intergraph to do it. I guess only following the protocol fear that his ankle is a little messed up. That's why he wasn't practicing McCaffrey seem to think it was ridiculous and line in the in the locker room yesterday could media was at this point I could go take a leak and while I'm in the bathroom so I clearly think you know he's tired of you that is how they do for M on the day of express or by the way what one on Sunday after the week and on the day of that pressure they put them on the report you kind of annoyed you know by it. There's a lot of things that are confusing about about this team. Let me ask you this, as we as we close up shop here. How much of this for you leads back to David Tepper about this this week because Matt rolled around and use it when you care to ensure that rule gets 90 something percent of right like it like Baker hasn't played well you know there's something to eat after the first game was atrocious, but it all comes back to Ruhl for foremost & this week like it all starts… Like that rule was desperate to get just like he made the entire was desperate. I remember it, go get our claim to Jersey to go interview with the giant and and and and temper like no you can't do it I will give you 63 million make your fit high stake in the NFL with only one year of experience in the leak was desperate having so higher looking damming right now he can't turn the thing around yes it completely on pepper and then there are so many other things to David Tepper's been involved in.

You know the quarterback you know that all of part of that you look at was back in Rivera's final year before was fired. Rivera switches to report on something that's interesting move for Ron but he does at 3483 report comes out that Kepler told Egle place free for the reason given was like, report like so really you don't want to act like you if you're struggling that the owner early on that for your immediate talk about craft initially all over the place and eventually hire the right people and settle down. Obviously, Belichick and Brady. I love them but I do think there's hope you learn how to be an owner early on he considered a big part right, I said this before, just like quarterbacks take time owners also take time.

Not everybody gets it right away. I use the example of George Steinbrenner, George Steinbrenner, in my opinion was a terrible owner for the Yankees. Then he got suspended. Had to go away for a while and then other people ran the team put in good shape and Steinbrenner came back is like all look at these guys have done for me and he was still bombastic and George but he was a different Steinbrenner. At that point and he be at the end he became a good owner were still waiting for that for Jerry Jones by the way, but that's another story altogether. Chris McLean Mac attack from Charlotte WF NZ at Mac WF NZ on twitter. I thank you very much for doing this mail talk to you soon. You got it. I will combat a little bit more about not too much about it made to look at what happened. What may have happened, but also many people listen to JJ Reddick's podcast on the on the NBA had been Simmons on the most recent addition of that podcast and I thought it was a really interesting conversation between Reddick and Simmons about the dump that never happened. Among other things.

We'll talk about a few of those things with Brendan with the suspension of a major Joker Boston Celtics head coach. I guess we can still call Mac again been fired yet, but there is also no guarantee that he's coming back after the season. A season-long suspension for a consensual intimate relationship with a fellow Boston Celtics employee when I saw the news yesterday.

I just got that's confusing.

That seems awfully hard for a good coach. See how Brendan waited our NBA endlessly passed layer process that alright so let's start there. By the way at HQ Cosell on twitter when you deleted you.

How did you process that when I saw the story I just quoted twitter the story of when I'm confused. I can't tell you how many responses what so confusing if I done that my job Mike okay your job is just like being the kid go to the Celtics unless you're Greg Popovich.

Probably not. So when when you saw that story and you saw what the suspension was likely to be. How did you process will transfer sound like a lot because it does not have samples but Sarver got a year okay you were working. I sent with it as I as I talk with like there's more where I feel that there's more coming out in my per se is a violation of the subject's code of conduct with their with their employees and I understand why subordinates and and bear and the people that, rule them in any jobs that is right for being able to be abused like idiots like even eat good or bad, right. Like for you can either not put them up for David. He should be more or put them on to say that he should not and any Internet effects not only them but the people that their will write because I assume a lot of on social media because this is how the staff got rolled out to us always just like dating a coworker's not liking for workers writings in a position he's in a position of power into it and it said it's a different animal, and that's what makes it worse for him. Let me let me just become a drill down here a little bit more to get to Robert Sarver because it's a separate issue. What were going to talk about. Would Sarver is a separate issue from Duncan. My first thought was there not taking coach who was that good off the court. This long unless there is a lot more enema to read from the latest story here because what they said was an external investigation which was conducted over a period of months found multiple violations of team policies. I feel like and I said this yesterday.

I feel like they've used the intimate relationship which is not allowed under company policy. I feel like they've used that as the doorway with which to walk through this, but there has to be so much more to this than just an intimate relationship is that seems seems kind of tame like if you know Marcus smart had an intimate relationship with honor Noah Celtics cheerleader. They suspended him for a year so I feel like that there's just more unlucky get nefarious about this, but is feel like Dr. has to be a lot more yeah sure it feels like there's a lot more XO like that. We were out with just kind of like less weight, less weight about was going to come out and what is not now. Twitter and Instagram are not good places the weight that is not a solid place to just sway. It's all the facts in full. You know what is not there now won't drop in like 10 PM and tomorrow right hey hey hey my dad, my audience is like speculation is going to run rapid and that's kind of where we are and also because June 19, 2006, but it all started May 6, 1997 the announcement that the Hartford whalers were coming to North Carolina transition of heartbreak. Figuring it out on the fly became 25th anniversary of the presented by the Carolina listen my dispute is, alerted me alone. Yes, he is like his cover from people that do not in a way you so it's going to is going to be. It is going to be out of what is going like for the next couple days is going to be out of pocket in them and we just got kinda sit with that until all this stuff on hold and can just digest all of this because space uses visit from a guy who was our first your nickel finals is a lot that's is it's it's crazy and I that that's what was so confusing to me. There has to be more the story.

By the way, there is no patient's font or button on twitter. I know that at HQ Cosell on twitter for Brendan waited through the Robert Sarver thing I want to separated from it made although I think for a lot of people. There are similarities here. I said this at the time when Adam Silver had his press conference last week that you could tell if you listen between the lines. Silver wanted to do more than one year and a $10 million fine. He wanted to but it's tough to kick your boss, one of your bosses out of his job so that he and I think just watching and listening to Silver.

It was to me obvious that he definitely wish he could have gone further and I don't think he disagreed had any problem with Chris Paul or Lebron James or dream on green criticizing him for not doing enough. Do you think you work behind the scenes to Vince Roberts ever right there.

It is right again. I want to come back to this vote yes or down. All right sterling removing himself from the clippers organization is selling the team. This is very similar situation where people are talking to him in real life right because that really does happen. I know it doesn't like them on Twitter. It is like a bonus room really does happen, and any and his people talking in my starting guard guys all being talking one day in my back and and yeah yeah yeah right right right so so is not really the worst thing in the world was like guy and more like just do this for us. At some point tired of every all of your actual coworkers. Yeah, all of your actual coworkers a bit like you you you are while you are while the for decades. It's enough of that. And that's with essentially happy. It is not decibel who any owner to be here like you need to do this you need to do that publicly because they can always talk to them privately and set a precedent. That's what they're always afraid of always afraid of the president of hey did this now your franchise is taken away from him was it three fourths of the of the of the ownership group to thirst. Whatever it is like okay cool, we'll have to do that. We just wanted dAMP because they would never do that they would never vote to get rid of a guy because so many of these guys know, I know that they don't they know what to say. The shaky glass houses they live. Last glass that's what that's right where they live just distiller in a glass house… I was like, but did you know don't know her but it wasn't public the difference. That's why Dan Snyder still owns the Washington commandos final thing I miss about basketball. I don't know if you are a listener at all to JJ Reddick's old man in the three podcasts but if you're an NBA fan. It's a great listen JJ is awesome at this. He's great on TV to. I did listen to all of it when I listen to the trunk of he and Ben Simmons talking about the dunk that never happened that we have all used guilty as charged. Right here to eviscerate Simmons as a player as an offense of player because he passed up a dog that conversation didn't change my opinion of what Ben Simmons is as a player, I still think he's limited, and he should not be of that stature but regardless it changed my opinion of that moment. What did you think of Simmons like yeah man, I didn't know I thought I had less time and that's why I gave it up. What did you think of that part of the conversation but like you, for the klepto yeah know I have heard the clip you know it's kind of the same kind of thing Bob like your your your cup and I guess he says he wished he had yeah but this is a midtown honestly you can't. This is not a in all, be all because we saw JJ Pereira lock up Lebron James right leg which seem great being mentally more richly flummoxed and physically like it doesn't matter as a like death.

That's why I'm always like hey what were seeing now is a complete cool picture of visitors roster on my lease but is also called Andrew Wiggins who was vilified for not being that guy in Minnesota be the exact same person and go say well you're right. He was the same person but that guy with curry right players around yeah I don't think it's the same but I know I talented team in the East easily be the same guy differently like the tweed is been running through all of twitter and bottled water. When you buy is is a dollar store and at the stadium is three dollars and on the side where right right like it just hands on where you are Andrew Wiggins when he was in Minnesota now like him despite yeah you might also argue my point was that I don't like you going to stay same as all assignments all go to stay.

I mean this is the next same guy hate every single person's and Whitney's sword squad and the my only perspective that is we have to say goodbye to Brendan waited at HQ Cosell on twitter is that the culture and Golden State is very different from the culture in Brooklyn where everybody was hard to get out of I don't I don't believe Tyree but I do believe in talents and if they can.

If Tyree and Kevin Durant stay healthy monsters yeah hold like this is Warren it's cam Thomas Estelle Harris instead. I have taken keep their mouth together so that monsters such as such a huge effort. We got a run Brentwood at HQ Cosell Lee Bessler. I'll talk you later my friend. This is the Adam gold shell June 19, 2006, but it all started May 6, 1997 the announcement that the Hartford whalers were coming to North Carolina transition of heartbreak.

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