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Jason Sobel, Action Network/Sirius XM92, chats with Adam about what he's been observing while at the President's Cup.

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September 22, 2022 5:32 pm

Jason Sobel, Action Network/Sirius XM92, chats with Adam about what he's been observing while at the President's Cup. Jason also goes over a quick tutorial when it comes to betting, especially in football. Plus Adam ranks the Top 5 and Bottom 5 NFL teams so far.

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Have financial capital financial USA.com. This is the gold show sound is a function of this to me. I was in the Boston Celtics are not necessarily our focus here but I thought I think a confusing, potentially disturbing story in Boston is the one year suspension I guess is not official, but that's was probably going to be a one-year suspension for last year's rising star head coach MAU Doka took over after Brad Stevens was bumped upstairs to the role of team president and did a great job.

Celtics had an incredible second half. They ended up in the NBA finals. There was a time where they look like they were going up the Golden State then are you could argue they might've been a better team than than Golden State to be and to be fair, but is not the way it played out anyway. According to the story.

It was a consensual intimate relationship with a fellow member of the team staff okay that's fair, but suspended for a year, Jay Williams from ESPN disagrees with that length of the suspension I get breaking team rules and I'm not condoning the actions at all but I don't think it would be a year if it was a consensual relationship now.

The moral side of it. It's something that we can discuss later because people always want to go to that redneck. That story becomes bigger but I have seen people big business who can still function run in the leaf business even though they've had some breakdowns morally with some things that now the breaking team guidelines. I understand that Buddy year that seems extreme to me. I felt the same way Stephen a Smith from ESPN. I don't think we can use all of this, but I want to hear the beginning of it anyway. What I will say is this, and this is a message to the Boston Celtics. I got a problem which he was stationed because if you are not going to fire him.

Why the hell do we even know about this data. Uncle bring what the hell are you telling the school I been covering the MVA for over a quarter-century and I'm trying to tell you right to The amount of fraternization or dear Ross, a mole that goes on in practically every damn organization within the national basketball Association, the NFL major league baseball. The list goes on and on. Together they work together. Stuff happens all the time. Let's just jump in here. Stephen is getting at is like eager suspended guy for year begin knocking to fire him.

So what you've done. By doing this is you have left it up to everybody's imagination. Not that they have to speculate.

But where do you live Boston.

There has to be more to this story and it has to be bad enough that the team is not the league that the team decided to take their rising star head coach out of the equation for year so I'm sure there was a consensual intimate relationship, but this is not about violation of the organizations guidelines say about that.

This is not about well you have a strict policy against dating within the workplace to suspend the code for that now year so what is it what's the problem what happened, whether post relationship or are there other things other than that relationship that are in play here because that's where the truth is, because again, and don't even try to compare it to your job or my job unless your job happens to be the head coach of an NBA team or an NHL team or major league baseball team. That's when we have equivalents here.

Yes, please. I can't tell you how many people on twitter because I just weed out the store with a confused I'm confused by this and will also confusing if I did that at my job I be fired like a job at the same job like I'm not trying to say that we will we don't do is not important. It isn't it inconsequential a lot more money involved in their jobs and hours like there's a lot fewer people they can do MAU Doka job they could do my job a lot fewer people to do that job. I should be saying this out loud this corner office is monitoring that I didn't mean that now tops today. There's one person in this world and he's busy. Who could do my job. Nobody believes so don't go big play in the will decided that if I just know that a that a net something else is at play here and that's not good. Adrian was Norske. The other story In late yesterday.

I think it happened before we enter the show but I don't know how big a deal it is. But now, Robert Sarver, the owner of the Phoenix sons and the Phoenix Mercury has decided to sell his team. Here's Adrian was Norske of ESPN, Robert Sarver knows now that he would be a pariah if you try to remain in the NBA remained in ownership. That's certainly played a factor in this, but I think a bigger factor is financial. I think Robert Sarver who, at his core is a banker and is somebody who looks at the realities financially avoiding the signs and that every day he remains as the majority owner of that team. It devalues that franchisee saw sponsors already starting to pledge that they were to walk away from agreements once they expire as long as Sarver was in place more sponsorships I think were on the ledge and I think for Sarver is going to cash out is going to make a lot of money in the sale of this team.

He is going to make a ton of money man wore a white guy problems right there with decades of just being a jackass will make him billion have to cease awesome absolutely awesome.

Oh to have Robert service problems evidence what's can happen and honestly we could say that we can credit Chris Paul. Or we could credit Lebron James or dream on green the real credit goes to PayPal or other because there were other sponsors also that were coming out to say that if Sarver remains the owner, then we are not going to continue our financial relationship not to know what PayPal pays not to put their 30 logo their patch on the sons uniform. By the way, do they do they use PayPal just does PayPal use PayPal to pay their age. I guess Greg just popped in my head also. How many times can I say pay in that sentence, painted by the that's where that. That's when the decisions get like this get made when when the money gets real so I also think that Adam Silver was criticized for not doing more behind-the-scenes was doing more because Adam Silverman made it clear to anybody was willing to listen between the lines last week.

Adam silver made it clear that he wasn't happy that his hands were tied because it's hard to fire your boss now, many can do that right. It he has 30 bosses.

It's hard to fire one of them. Yeah, but I do think that there was some back channel pressure applied. My friend Jason Sobel from the action network at Jason Sobel TAN also serious XM 92. He and Michael Collins duplicating the green every afternoon, which I listen to on my ride home.

Don't tell anybody here he is actively interested in the Presidents cup is not over yet.

Right. I don't think on February 2 fairway right now in her complaint golf.

I think that is good alright so why does it feel like every hole is the is like the end of the world for the internationals are what I workable I mean just look at international agreement will bit undermanned this week. You combination of the live defector then just not quite having a need to have the hang with severity which is very, very strong average world ranking better than 1211.6 this week. Very good. You got all the guys who went to live by oblique should be allowed to play this weekend. A lot of people feel differently and will be left to come and go farther so final shorthanded but said I put Trevor able to put all his old bald green basket without first carrying old Adam Scott and that she might be like an NFL team that once you have a buck wink would I go again in week three.

Which of course will know about it when you don't.

Like when I go to that the entire thing we all clear to most experienced players out there and have them taken down the First National trickle-down effect. So it goes like the pressure will be on the international team right guard starts.

I got understand putting Scott my CML but I know Adam Scott's putting stats are much better this this year, but ultimately you put two guys out there that miss a lot of makeable pots and you gotta have somebody who you can trust rolling the ball. Especially these greens back just tell the way there a way the guys are putting they are so fast that it's it's just going to make it even more more problematic with Jason Sobel of action network and Sirius XM is joining us here on the Adam go Joe got this funny in that over 18 holes, especially matchplay the difference between a Scotty Scheffler and a a C Woo Kim. Just use those two players that much. So, single game to go out any particular day and shoot 62 and Scotty Scheffler can shoot 70 and it could be of blow out the other way, but there's these these types of events do more to expose players than they do anything else expose weaknesses and nerves and all of that meet who has to be the star for the internationals for this to be interesting Sunday morning golden studio with my friend Coach Pete the router with the capital financial advisory group.

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I could be after that is how you got your I don't think that you can come in with one guy putting the entire international team on his back and beating the American all by himself.

Start to work out that way about my marriage. By the way all over the golf course galaxy and being good news for the actual size is epicurean for the home side right now is a lot of Canadians in Charlotte are are very sort of melancholy IMP trip for a few minutes goes about six people your entire TID date might be family members of the guys quiet, and so on know there's one playwright I even grew weaker and my click spilled out of Scott. Those boys for the internationals. I've been very impressed and got game and that audience putted much better this year but the last couple years. The motivation is still there 40 guys got everything you have a lot they could yell or if you retire tomorrow and when live. It got eight different house in different countries but I'm family what something liberals like to do.

I couldn't blame him get another grinding a lot of PGA Georgia really solid conditions this year so I picked Adam Scott the top.

Whatever one international side but if there's one guy that might rally around young Content does not win win the championship not too far just a couple months ago and it's got not only all the moxie needed to go play on the course, but I think is everyone's favorite teammate right now the international gelato guys that Mac will enjoy get the notice get Joe Scotland for Kathy Atilano just cavity for Rickie Fowler for last 13 years got him on the back. Now that the partnership expect good thinking Tompkins weeks like I did to. I actually think he has to be there.*And he's 20 years old.

There's no tired in in time came, he plays all five matches for me unless I guess he gets gets hit by a beverage cart at Quail Hollow. Jason Sobel is joining us for the action network and Sirius XM you and I often talk about wagering on golf. There are very few value wagers this week. Here's where I think there is value, especially if it's going to be a blowout figuring out when matches will end so Scotty Scheffler and Sam Burns. I like the value although it is tied to two. I like the value of that match ending before the 16th hole to get blight +250 on their bad I didn't see those numbers. I like that] started already so will revision for I've been thinking what I can't in good conscience tell anyone. Quite a favorite -770 for those who aren't into gambling on W your your petting $700 win $100 that the goal is great that same day, and I also don't recall anyone to bet on the international side because I don't think the character that the thing in that couple event to spread like that and you know it seemed weird before start. All but look at football fees will no expect acne and yes if you find the right you will find that chakra books but you will find the US -5, but international PM +6 and try to find a local bagel arbitrage in their which would not be a bad play whatsoever. And then I look at again in terms of football season using your darling accredited is not for the faint of heart. But most football that they take was browned by the sport that I get out -1 And so essentially you're getting $91 for every hundred that you put it, the gateway that if you parlay the Browns to your getaway that went the US -700+118 and all of a sudden you're getting $118 on your hundred dollars that I think it especially using of the parlay not for the faint of heart. Because you went all your football back if international themes about women's Bureau lose all those barley but if your back constantly US team that would play out as especially since you admit if you really wanted to.

You had all these parlay bets if it looks good and all of a sudden the international team is winning on Sunday going to Sunday you could always just throw a little on the internationals at that point absolutely entered a great event for Hedrick to get out at some point today. Internationals go look for the one you will get a much better number of you lucky moving forward.

By the same token, if you build up five nothing and you know what I still think you have looked at internationals have held steady from 2005.

The four ball format will play tomorrow in the singles format which will be played on Sunday evening and so good. As I look I'm giving you acting the foursomes session anyway.

If the international being drift to +1000 1/3 of the opening 71 and not I am going back on the job on that number thought of that event, the hedge those bets with low back side of things adjacent so don't tell you not on today because the coverage is on you. Take a day off. Don't you that I don't have the day off from watching people play golf is very hard work is amazing I say is I've never understood the United States is 11 one and one in this competition. This is the 14th iteration of the president stops.

I just pulled pulled up the 96 team for the international I covered the first two at our TJ in Gainesville, Virginia when I was living up in that area I've never understood why these matches were noncompetitive because those teams the international teams. Not this year obviously but they have been really really deep and strong in the past that team and 96 had Norman who blew the Masters had elves who was a year away from winning his second major who had jumbos I could. Whatever Nick Price, Steve Elkington, Vijay Singh, Craig Perry was a good player made.

They had so many good players.

How has this been so one-sided that one specific we all know Greg Greg weathered and played better but I think at some point, the law of averages about that. Like you said earlier on any given day comes out better work and not even played out much better but fall the whole global shepherds don't and so forth about how a discrepancy I don't know why I figure something to do the camaraderie ready, going back a few years when Europe would quit with the Ryder Cup year we say why can you if you would look at well European guys are closer knit there really togetherness there. These guys travel together.

They like each other make a little bit more visual art over there and so my only answer to that is making that correlates to this event as well, and that your guys are almost got a really good friend Bill hang out together. They all go to dinner together and stuff like that little known each other for very long time where you're really trying to pull something together with an international do you like what Derek Taylor Kendra Benito Pereira go on the second all-out I would even like talking to you each other before this week. They were both working this past week that evenly play on the contrary front desk at some point (together they played together.

I can imagine good friends and knew each other that well before all of a sudden the big event paired together and oh by the way I go out there and be totally CL next. By the way disclosing to buy what you make of the PGA Tour telling Greg Norman not to show up at the QBE shootout. The tournament that he found it. I hadn't heard that actually replied that. I feel whatsoever. I have a few questions about that overlap where Outlook should outsell title sponsor, but casually building formerly known as the sharpshooter money, but it's his man. What are those that buckle the golf world in which we live Jason so I appreciate your time and get back to watching get tips get back to your your hard day at the office. The only qualified foreman man appreciates on cases Sirius XM family to the action network day at Jason's, Jason's, whether the tree just totally totally living that he would never get suspended now for a full year, but he's living the dream of the NFL here in just a second. I got the five best in the five worst teams, exit 15 worst teams in the league so I couldn't really decide to it. It's a bloated bottom five but before we get to that top of the show. We talked about email Doka, the head coach, the Boston Celtics, who will be suspended for a year for this is what the team is offering to reporters a consensual intimate relationship with somebody who also works for the team and look the last thing I want to do is be disrespectful so I'm just asking him to say it this way and then I will ask that you all who hold this view really think about if you think that your job and your company is the same as email Doka's job and the Boston Celtics. If you think those things are identical. I cannot help you, because they are not, and they are not even on the same planet.

There are a finite number of people who are good at being head coaches of NBA teams of the people who are coaching NBA teams.

Right now we know. Good so think about this for just one second, you've got a really successful first year head coach who connected with players after the wonder kid Brad Stevens his effectiveness with essentially the same group had waned. He has something the Celtics were just in the NBA finals.

If you are telling me that you believe that some company handbook that says we have no fraternization among employees is going to cost your head coach a full year. Again, I can't help you. I just ask that you think about it so all I'm saying is that there's more to this story a lot more to this story, then it may Doka and Janice from accounting had a little fun after a company cookout. There's way more to this story than that because there has to be whether it's related to that relationship or that relationship is being used as an excuse. There's more to that story. There is there is no way on this earth.

They are taking their head coach off the bench for a year. Nope. Look, if it was just a man, you can begin date Janice and accounting.

If that's the case to find a $50,000 there to suspend him for the preseason games and that were done open. There's more to it than that way more to it than that. Use your brain. That's all I'm asking. I'm confused that this is a year-long suspension.

If you're not then you just are accepting what the Celtics are selling and I think that's a bad thing to accept shall we do the top five on five power rankings change the name but I like power rankings. I always like to start well always. We usually flip back and forth so will do will do will start with the worst five this week and will do will go with the best five first next week. All right number 28 are the New England Patriots, the Pittsburgh Steelers and the New York Jets yes I have three teams tied for number 20. Don't let the smooth tasteful you there all one in one of these to the three of these teams are not good they're not the Pats have 24 points for two games 24. The standards are just they're not good Matt Jones might not be the guy.

By the way, for you Steelers fans. You patriots fans all bent Jones like yet he's still the guy that Bill Belichick allowed to throw only three times in a single game they won that game Steelers 37 point almost all of the points they scored against the Bengals came from a thousand turnovers, so that as per the jets.

They continue to insist on starting Joe Flack out in actual games that matter in the regular-season and don't don't.

I know they won the last one they won the last one because Nick Chubb had a brain start and didn't taken me before the end zone.

If he slides it's over. Yeah, and the Jets lose by two touchdowns.

So yesterday, one but that's a game where the Browns lost not the Jets winning that's a loss ugly when Josh and me look the Jets need wins number 29 the Tennessee Titans and the Cincinnati Bengals don't mess with me on a technicality. Here I realize I have three teams at number 28, and two teams at number 29.

I get it. I understand the math so I love these two teams and we get together. For this reason I said this before. Last year the Titans with the number one seed in the AFC.

The Cincinnati Bengals where the number four seed. They were the fourth best division winner. They finished I believe tenant seven, June 19, 2006, but it all started May 6, 1997 the announcement that the Hartford whalers were coming to North Carolina transition of heartbreak of figuring it out on the fly became look at the 25th anniversary of the move presented by the Carolina listen now my the Bengals went to the Super Bowl. So these two teams you have the regular-season AFC champ if that's even a thing. Which it isn't. But the regular-season winner if you will, and the team that ended up in the Super Bowl.

I'm not sure either to make the playoffs. Now that's the problem. I actually think the Bengals will make the playoffs.

I'm not as optimistic about the type and I again I don't think these are two of the worst five teams. Ultimately, one word you were worth 89 weeks into the season, but I think they're not nested there.to be one of the top five. Either ESPN asked the question if the Bengals should be concerned or not, and I would say yeah of course they should be concerned Titans probably more concerned but I think the Bengals should be concerned. For this reason, keep in mind that until the last four weeks of the season were of borderline playoff team.

They won their last three and actually attended in six because the division was pretty mediocre thanks to Lamar Jackson's injury and the fact that the ravens lost. I believe their last eight regular-season games that they wrapped up the division and so they lost the last game of the season but they will essentially attend Wednesday so that's not great. The difference between what we talked about yesterday reason the Panthers as an example of when will you be a legitimate 10 or 11 when team that to me is a playoff team a 10 or 11 when team in the Bengals were just that close to being a nine when team which is at best borderline. The Bengals are a team that got hot. The Bengals are still a team that can block their skill attainment allows too many sex so I'm concerned about the Bengals but they still play the division that I'm not sure is going to be that good. The ravens are still the best team in that division but I can't have my doubts about how great the ravens are going to be even though I really like the ravens around the ravens allowed the dolphins to score all those points in the fourth quarter. Maybe that's a blip. Anyway, Tennessee and Cincinnati to me are tied for 29 number 30 the Atlanta Falcons were owing to. I was looking at odds for first coach to be fired, which, of course, Matt rules the odds on favorite to be the first to be fired, but if you're looking for a value bet I don't hate Arthur Smith I Summit 21.

I don't hate Arthur Smith is a value bet to be the first to head coach to be fired, but that depends on whether or not David Tepper is interested in firing that rule early. I don't think he is now so I kinda like the value of Arthur Smith there so number 31. The Indianapolis Colts see Arthur Smith crank you keep handpicking your quarterback and your working your way down the ladder, but Philip Rivers is clearly better than Carson Wentz who is not better, but not all that worse than that. Ryan Ryan's distance over for right it's been overriding a couple years now this is not good and I really I'm worried that the Colts are just cannot completely going to be a best and maybe I can again.

I always will remind you how I could be way wrong for 2 Weeks Way. Ron still early. I have no faith that the culture to be any good which gets me back to Will Brinson telling us a few weeks ago that the Jacksonville Jaguars are not a terrible play to win that division.

Yeah, Eddie might be right yeah nine wins could be enough to say number 32, the Carolina Panthers, congratulations, you won something.

I Baker Mayfield earlier said you were close were so close really lost a combined to gain by five points right. Here's Matt rule on a game plan sort of. I think if you score some sessions so feels that that change things as well go to one of the first one Jefferson it was a 16 Play Dr. resulted in the field-goal so we have we shown we can sustain it to me to get out of her way a little bit and again that just comes down to please everybody executing at a high level. First of all he's right field goes not as good as that sounds right already growing as a head coach of the every team as a 16 Play Dr. no matter how bad you are. Every single team as a 16 Play Dr.'s appointment again. 16. But seriously, everything, everything can sustain longer you have to do that like for five times again and they don't sell voice makes me sick.

Slow down this year is slow down is cadence this year. Yes, because you know what we referred to him last year. As you remember this picture like this remind me oh, Porky pig, Porky pig number five Elmer fun, couple of them, either on a blank which one which one was sounds like maybe he will listen generate earnings if he slows it down to the tenant. We know where it already for two weeks. You already know to the top five number five. I know they lost week one in Minnesota and the Packers are the fifth best team for me right now in the FL they still have Aaron Rogers said this before, doesn't matter whose wide receivers are is to make them better than they are. That's where Rogers has done for his entire career. They have great running backs. They need their offense of line to kinda get back to health. So they went to the opener without both tackles they're not healthy yet.

If they get some semblance of health in the offense of line there to score a ton and I think that the defendant, they could absolutely be in the Super Bowl again so not worried about backers being just one in 15 and you know you you don't have to give them credit for being the Bears last week as they always beat the Bears.

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are number four for me and worried about their offense and now they're going into this game with the Packers, by the way. On Sunday night football got some ineffable 430 game at home without Mike Evans who came off the bench in their game last week against the saints and lost his mind and got ejected from the game and asserting one-game suspension. Damien what he appealed the suspension yesterday and it was denied by the NFL, Damien Woody from ESPN on that they did get a Reiki on the list.

Everyone talks about this conspiracy theory. Whatever the best to me that's a bunch of nonsense just a moment like we already know the bad blood that that that Mike Evans and Marshall Lattimore have all you know the Tempe Buccaneers and New Orleans Saints, but you can't run from the sideline and just going tackle somebody like light leaves will send the mess like enough is enough, but we got this stuff been born on for too long and sleep, but you just didn't want I don't know if he's lucky he's just getting one I'm missing a game is significant for a player not only giving you lose the salary for that game but your team is impacted for that game they're not as good a team without Mike Evans as they are with Mike Evans but of course they were going to uphold the suspension.

You can't come up bench Marshall Lattimore was part of the fight to rise. Yes, Marshall Lattimore did not get to spend. Why because he was in the right field, the bank now it's just a simple article where some liberator had seen his voice like his mouth and what he said to the ramp as to why he came off the sidelines was Tom Brady when you think I'm going to do like so he alluded to some sort of a conspiracy conspiracy even was there a second pusher was there a second giant game of the bank that we can see. Was there a grassy knoll doing so. I know it's time Brady time. No man Mike Evans ran off the bench and fight is I guess a stretch, but he can't do that you can't come off the bench and do that really that simple. It really is that simple hardware.

Where are we now are number three Philadelphia Eagles Buffalo Bills like I think that they they their there are so many ways of the Eagle remind me of the bills, just with less talent.

Yeah, I don't mean that that's not disparaging on the Eagles they to me they're the best team in the NFC today, but they remind me of the bills because they have a very good running game, in part because their quarterback is really dangerous with his legs but that to me is the difference they Josh Allen, even though the Eagles have Ajay Brown Abbott Josh Allen Stephan Diggs.if two superstars.

Yeah, all the pieces I puzzle all automatically went too far forward vehicles number three, number two, the Kansas City Chiefs still great still great even though they don't have time to kill. That's abets a better than Ms. Tyree kill no question about it. They still have Andy Reid they still have Eric.

The enemy is an offensive coordinator because nobody's hiring Eric Ben-Ami for some stupid reason and they still have Patrick McCombs and they thought Travis Kelsey and the defense is pretty good not great notes or Matthew that's a that's a loss, but there there pretty doggone good offense makes up for it and maybe it would. There's no replacing Tyree kill to be honest you see what he has done for Miami's offense if you're wondering why I don't have Miami in my top five, even though Miami is to a nose because I don't think they're that good meet. If your dolphins fan line. I hope for your sake I am wrong and I think there's a fair chance. I am but right now I don't think that they're the one of the top five teams in the lake and the number one is the Buffalo Bills and it's going to take something for me to think that another team is better than them. In fact, I'll tell you right now if the Dolphins beat the bills on Sunday and they will play believe it's in Miami. I will still have the bills ahead of the Dolphins.

I think Buffalo is I don't know. I don't see a weakness. They are great defensively they are that they have so many good players in the front seven and they have a super secondary and their offense. I don't know how you stop now strong run the ball without big-name secretaries very good, but made it on stars is it's very possible that James cut down the cook's younger brother, it's very possible that he's the best running back that they have yeah now he's he's a rookie, he came out of Georgia. He's a rookie and he put the ball on the ground and that's not good, but their deep also, Zach Moss, a deposition, their deep there good wide receivers knocks the tight end is excellent. Allen is a a weapon multiple ways and their well coached. I if the Achilles' heel we talked about it might be Sean McDermott. We don't know yet because last year he cost them the game against the Patriots. Any cost them the playoff game against the Chiefs those losses on the head coach. But he still a pretty good" yeah, I think there's solid unless they get multiple big injuries at bed said everybody the same about the same thing for every team as long as they don't get decimated by injuries. Then there they should be fine. I just think that that team has everything, absolutely everything you feel good about Panthers things this weekend. Now course, not now, of course, not at all like you have no reason to feel good about any Panthers game now you know what I don't like the people understood people who have listened since I started doing this a long time ago. I do not like the knee-jerk fire the coach yeah okay I don't think it really helps you unless you are a team that needs a turnaround within the season to fire the coach midstream.

I just it's pretty clear the mat roles not good at.

So what's a little thinking when this is the atom gold shell June 19, 2006, but it all started May 6, 1997 the announcement that the Hartford whalers were coming to North Carolina transition of heartbreak of figuring it out on the fly became the 25th anniversary of the moon, presented by the Carolina listen now my