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Webb Telescope space photos do not impress Hayes Permar

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July 14, 2022 4:03 pm

The James Webb Telescope space photos do not impress Hayes Permar, but he does love the fact that the telescope is named after a North Carolinian.

Also, we hear from Carolina Hurricanes President/GM Don Waddell, and new Canes defenseman Brent Burns, after Burns was acquired at the start of NHL Free Agency from the San Jose Sharks.

Plus, is 'ham' overrated, underrated, or properly right rated?

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This is that the Adam goals you have financial advisory through capital financial USA.com. This is the Adam Gold show a lot of news about the Carolina hurricanes that yesterday things were flying yeah all you do is just keep twitter up and it was like a zoo. In this case is about to do this, canes might do this. This is what the kids are doing to confirm that he gets confirmation and you get a great audit today plus a given email that's official for the canes and get a link to watch the interview on zoom in fact right now believe Max patch are ready is the media's rights we could do the super lazy gelato sports radio thing to just turn on the mathematic structure. Each exam fee but instead will be safer tomorrow.

So the best carbon forges.

You do the job know we haven't heard anything. You why Twitter was down so that's what you did so not a lot of new slide today, which I miss this this this proves that I'm not the twitter that I used to be.

I should know when twitter is down right because I'm on there. All the times you broke it and said no you just be very rarely will will lose twitter network. There's always the initial well what's wrong with my phone right that that that you like that before.

Stages of twitter going down to glow like my silk. It was over the Internet as a way to not bother after working there as well.

What's wrong with my phone is a well what's wrong with somehow the biggest irony is often times the place you go to figure out what's going on. I member when earthquake happened in Sparta, North Carolina. I have to be in Todd North Carolina.

Not very far away up there in Ashe County shut out as County and there was a weird rumbling and shaking like that didn't seem menacing, but did seem out of the ordinary. And I like what just happened, you jump on Twitter you like what happened in on Twitter you see people say was that an earthquake that you cease to be between something I guess it was an earthquake and that you would twitter goes down the place you go to find out about it is on twitter working so how you have another twitter is down. You can't. So when was twitter down.

How long did it did it stay down. It was down this morning for a few hours. I think, but even even still, what it was going to go back was a fullback wasn't fully back.

I was trying to post a video that I made about twitter being down on twitter and it wouldn't pose very Meadows will not better because of twitter. We can use better now because they made the company name meta now we can use the term edit without people thinking they were talking about the company better because it's very meta of you, but you don't twitter backup. Is there any news about the canes today know none other than Zach saltshaker yeah other than that, but even like the Mike Franks era volley and peer Lebron the you know the Wojcik and Shaw's of the NHL world barely tweeted anything today. Nothing so like no one signed anywhere.

Maybe they get their sources from twitter. Now they they can get theirs. Since we don't have a lot of current Newark is news happening in the wall of sound in here about the old hurricanes news.

You know, the 24 hours old hurricanes business to the walls that the wall of sound is a function of this. There's no doubt think a lot of hurricanes knows, maybe it's a Canadian twitter all due respect to Max patch are ready as they were getting better and better at say the biggest addition to the Carolina hurricanes yesterday after four is a move is probably former Norris trophy winner potential future Hall of Famer Brent Burns and apparently really big dude large beard, massive beard and he zoomed in from where I do know where he was Montana Tech, Texas because he had some big horns on the wall like he had what looked to be basic if you looked at him and I went to work on a house like I would live in the exact house you thought a large animal horns on the walls of things that he probably killed with his bare hands. Big beer like that again. These are things that he ran down then Shared with his own hands wrestled the life out of them and then didn't carve just ripped the horns off of the deer jabbed him into his wall such as a stock.

Use this teeth playing hockey. Yes for a fair profit. So Brent Burns was the Butler start with what that without what else said about Brent Burns. First of all is that it urges excited to come to Carolina right I called just little while go in the excitement that he has just over the phone and it gets you really excited because he does bring a lot of energy.

Very upbeat guy you talk to all the players have played with them and that very well respected that.

He said he spent a leader and his team for many many years and a guy that Herve looks up to, but I think his personality said good guy that loves to play hockey and enjoy certain I think for her to find him to be real good fit here for us was seen as any good last year.

No you imagine the guys making the same money went from a bad team to a good thing. That's nobody we talk about this like Nextel received like the happiest unit exit interviews again drew like he reside but you know what was cool with that really corrupt even though I woke up when were there like that.

You're the really good tonight so there's probably some of that for Brent who believes that you know regardless whether the canes are to be the number one team of the number five team or the number 18 in the NHL next year.

He's probably going to the playoffs with the canes would be his guest and Burns actually had to approve the trade is contract stipulation that a given deal set with Carolina music yeah I'm up later. One thing we comparison to the New England Patriots earlier is one of things that they created for themselves. Once you start to seem to be smart then you become a place that people want to play. Freezers want to come there for the most part I think hurricanes.

One thing that they've also done a good job of is get a feel on whether or not a person wants to be there. Do not try and convince somebody that they don't want to be there. Don't drink that somebody thinks they don't want to play Carol out of that. It's a place that one playwright Brent Burns. I was smart enough to see smart system in place that players like to play the squad that that players like to play for coach and players like to play for the team's had success. If you'd like looking at success right.

Was it Adam Fox couple years ago that I didn't want to play for the canes out all the circumstances are not judging anybody like we all got our list of priorities while you play the place right you want to play their hurricanes didn't waste time to beat around the bush right now will you and I will sell you on it was like nope you want to play or move all right, seek the guys that excited about, played for you and I think that the relationships are more likely to work out. Maybe just as important as Burns being excited to join Carolina hurricanes is that the Carolina hurricanes players were excited about the addition of Brent Burns so says Don Waddell. I think today we made our team better for sure and by time you get through it is no doubt my mind that no couple things make us better or something similar players or were adding currently but also the experience at our young players have have received the last specialists couple your playoff run know best way to get experience in classes plays many games as you can so I think we've taken no steps.

So I think you guys like Brett Brent Burns, since I think it's a huge addition to your team. I think since that announce it or not of our players. Current players never detect space and while I can't believe we got this guy so that's always a positive sign. That's the coolest thing that that I heard of Don Waddell was eight or nine dudes Carolina hurricanes, who are you know who knows what they're doing right now as soon as they heard the Brent Burns was going the canes they had of the GM are like heck yeah that's cool. That's a good sign for me.

But of course with you for the man himself, Brent Burns, as you mentioned it was a trade but something that he had a say in and as far as his boat.

It was easy to say yes a green light to move to Raleigh fits our family really well. I think we we love the outdoors, beloved will require open space. So I think there was no there is no issue there that the key is no wish without a great great team that's competing for championship every year and your different claim against those guys and and you have arrived there.

I think you offered nothing but unbelievable things about him and the way he goes about his business and the icing was that it was a very easy fit for us that I think is hardest decision was thrust to leave San Jose and try something new which which was an event that's not some easy thing to do when you're in a place for so long.

Nothing but great things to say about it. It's it's been really nice.

I think even today just have missed the sexual excitement and extra energy. I can feel it already. You know it's it's it's something really special that come and be a part of an can't wait to meet you guys. Burns was a hot skillet in the right place some spots that are due the county will be able to pick off a few bucks is 11 Downing garners a going all in Johnson County.

He might just straight up set up camp in Jericho, but I Burns you should adjust rally even name checked where he wants to play is excited about play PNC did he say PNC regardless is excited about, you know, it's always a place that we players. It's crazy. I loved I was always a guy right right games early in the steeple of their tailgating.

I think it's just such a special place in loud building. There is a lot of similarities met with was San Jose people don't realize how great of a hockey town. It isn't the unexcited when it said it had been burned to death will see what Max patch ready. Says he's talking the media right now. I would probably will bring you that audio today good to you tomorrow on the pedagogy of and finally on the wall of sound audio. The basically is only good today and that's what we gotta use it. Shout out to the one and only John can you know like his name is similar to Jeremy Markovich you rabbit hole and like Jeremy back John Malkovich from Conair that should be playing somewhere on cable day-to-day. There should be a Conair marathon for this grade about Conair face-off is a little bit of this do their like a similar error is right. Yeah, this 90s of just but this is not not of his foot to the top of his cage.

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One of the big pieces of news this week that everyone's talking about it now turning into memes online are the pictures coming from the James Webb space telescope.

I'm not asking this for any loaded answer or to try and set up my next bit unready I truly ask your opinion so I hope you'll give me your honest opinion. What was your reaction when you saw these pictures, Dennis Cox. I really looked at him okay that's fair and I've heard some interviews with people who like work in space their whole life or work on this project like 20 years ago.

They begin building this telescope. This is the first sort of fruits of their labor to come back so those people totally get their excitement right they are fully invested in the project.

There are other people who I'm less sure if their excitement is as genuine or sincere. Basically, were getting these pictures the first we saw was like and think of all black square picture and then just light lots of little pieces of white different color. Some like bright or whatever but you are all different, all over the screen.

That was the first one we got a paper like this is saying. Pictures were getting from the James Webb telescope. I've never seen anything like this. This is unbelievable. I think my favorite meme I've seen from that one is the diversity at again the memes you know the good. They are indeed good. Again, it looks like just a black square and then some pictures pieces of light. All very colorful and it were blown up and put over the couch in your living room, it might look like will be smart. Best meme I've seen somebody who you know when you do a picture on a graphic and you try to sit like a map, for example, if you try to say I this map is representing this area and it's you make a little bigger than it is about describing this wealth, radio, nor my use my hands will do for video but basically there's a picture of a kitchen counter and then a graphic trying to show you as if they had caught square out of said kitchen counter and held it up to you. She could see was on the counter basically saying that first picture that was sent back from the James Webb telescope and released.

Looks like you could easily be just the design on my marble kitchen countertop right kind of the point I'm going with is that we have got some other ones I have read of what they mean. These are the, the cliffs of the event something or they got names the can't DO whatever 35 and some of them shows like some history. We can barely see Nelson evolution of some of our universe and were saying things that are like difficult to grasp how far away it is, you know how big it is not even like distance away. It's time away from us right. There's all this stuff locked up into how we as simple humans who 200 years ago, I read 200 when to be the electricity. Wind was discovered yet.

Yeah, two ideas go. We can even like turn on the lights hundred years ago. We could barely fly to another years ago now we can discover all these universe and see how fast it is. It literally like see it in its form like some people are lying when they say how impressed they are by this end. It's for this reason partly right. The word awesome like I over using the common it's awesome that's great awesome truly means. Like all inspiring right and when you think of like the concept of things of like the universe or God in its actuality like not that any religion or if you you don't believe in God the absent guy will pick what are not try to make this religious substrate. Try to think we try to think of how was life created or what happens after our natural bodies die what is up you know what is the whole world mean it is truly too great for my small feeble human mind to comprehend right back and think about it. I can read things every philosophy.

I can choose a religion to read see what they think about if they want, but that's kind of field. These pictures the James Webb space telescope is not blown away by these pictures because any concept of what the universe should look like, or any I got another sound stupid but you know, like when you find a snake outside or blog you try to send a picture to your friend. You might put your shoe beside it and I owe my gallery. This blog is larger than my shoe sinners conduct a white van see how big that it's bigger then your shoe or lay down the something next to the snake that gives context to how long the snake actually is right so I'm seeing these pictures of the vast mass of stars in the universe, but I can't fully grasp of how you can explain to me like water planet is just one little speck in the solar system, and that solar system is one speck of this galaxy that these are all these different galaxies like the get out. I can hear that I can like brain can process it and I think the reason these pictures don't blow me away is truly because they are beyond my level of coverage it be like if somebody said hey do you want to see the face of God.

They show you a picture and it was you know whatever God looks like.

But I wouldn't be blown away because I would have any concept of what the face of God is asked us to look like about well, that's his nephew showed me a picture of you know a person that was 9 feet tall watching millions of people in my lifetime and the tallest was obscene. Max out at seven have feet and even that is like impressive to see him seeing Sean Bradley a person you like wow that's crazy. So if you show me a picture of us on real it without a 9 foot tall person I know that would blow me away because I have context for what a actual human shape should be even so with some animals that that I've never seen a person known to exist long enough. If I saw a giraffe that was you know as tall as a 30 story building I'd be like, wow, I can understand that is impressive for Sean Bradley urged her you see a store or more. It is something that leaks out a hurricane that is blowing trees over like you have concept like I've seen a windy day. Now I'm seeing when that is literally knocking over trees when I briefly lived in Wisconsin yell right on Lake Michigan first day I was there on Lake Michigan to water shoots I've never seen like a tornado or water shoot in my life.

I had been in that state as a resident for 12 hours and all the sudden and all the host is being sucked out there that Lake Michigan is a suck up to the heavens I and what is yes. So yes because you've experienced weather and seen wind and water like you and and you heard this explained you.

I'm sure it will blow you away, but also like you could comprehend what was happening right yes even asking people at how often this happened and so was that I've lived here for 15 years and I've never seen this before, so I'm not pooh-poohing the significance of this and I'm certainly not downplaying the work that went into or how important is to learn about our universe, and it is also one of those mean a lot to like this when you look at that those pictures you like Joe that's like 30 million of our planets or whatever the number is like there.

There's a billion Earth's and there the people like there's probably a plant grown on one of the very least, right, there is probably an amoeba.

Somewhere in there that's all different conversation about your Star Wars to play yes and a lot of galaxy far far away is that tattooing that's what I need to know is that tattoo was so I'm not saying I'm not final impressed with the human accomplishment that is able to again 250 years ago, we were able to turn on lights or fly and now we sent things into space. They can go distances and time away from us than my brain can't take up comprehend and take and capture images and send back to us.

But like just to see these pictures literally is too much for my brain to understand and because of that I'm not as impressed by them as I would be by something more simple on this earth that make sense and it even went like they try to compare the Hubble telescope ever hear about this. Growing up in high school like is one of the things that you need to learn about the Hubble telescope about you just heard Hubble telescope jokes on Saturday live or letterman or whatever selector you kinda knew it existed and said outer shirt to be like here is what the Hubble telescope picture was of the galaxy. And here's the new James Webb picture I like people like get the amazing different sounds like they just put the Paris filter on it like that mean I can see it was better than the other. But like just limit will be bright and clear, and I could get some to be like that was $50 billion in 2000 people working for 20 years to make the picture brighter. You gotta respect that I can get your invested in it.

I'm not saying that you should be proud or that you did in your present work.

I'm truly saying my small brain is not quite big enough to comprehend what seeing the galaxy. Looks like because of that I left slightly underwhelmed by these pictures, but the one thing that does impress me is the man James Webb and you know what that is. Dennis Cox was that because he is a hashtag pack Pro how can I drag James Webb actually is not Webb's more on the toilet. We have a tradition here of still and know that that hashtag pack project went back to a jail in the queue. Nancy state then said he was going Pro stay sick and still is labeling of the hashtag pack grows. It is like just any connection. We can make the statements pack Pro but in this case James Webb from Granville County from a area listed as tally-ho North Carolina.

You will really find tally-ho on record now on the map.

It sort of just like a Township not far from still North Carolina also very small, just a little bit north of like Butner and Ann Creekmore there in the Greenville County when UNC became dean of education.

When the Marine Corps reserves study to become a lawyer. Just because it is like smart thing to do during World War II. He was down at Cherry point in Havelock, North Carolina, Cisco has been all over the state shut out Craven County. Then, after a meal to get into than flying in learning the stuff you receive the Dean of education at UNC. At one point after he graduated there after Russia put Sputnik up. We were in almost a panic mode like we've got to win the space race. He was appointed the head of NASA from 1961 1968.

He took it from a fledgling organization to the force that it was he resigned, very retired just before the limit before the space Lodge and 69 the wood to the moon the like.

Basically, he had love NASA and era. We went from watching Russia send a satellite up and be like oh no, we got to catch up to jump in front of everybody being the first people to land on the moon.

If it's a 1969 and in that time in 1965 James Webb from Granville County used to work at Cherry point out there in Havelock. Graduate of the University of North Guillot. He said we need to develop a space telescope that ensures universe 2002. That's how long it takes leasing to develop 2002. They decided to name the next space telescope after him. They had the Hubble they knew that was good work for a while. Things take a little while to create them, launch them, let them get to where they need to get with the get the pictures of galaxies in 2000 to the decided name the next telescope after him.

That's why we have proud North Carolinian James Webb space telescope whose efforts I am impressed with and reflect the advancement of mankind, but his pictures unfortunately I am too simple to be fully impressed with June 19, 2006, but it all started May 6, 1997 with the announcement that the Hartford whalers were coming to North Carolina transition of heartbreak. Figuring it out on the fly became the 25th anniversary of the presented by the Carolina listen now my used to be a real thing right now is almost not worth it. There's too much media on Twitter everybody's there. If you believe it's good if you're a big enough person. If your the Tom Brady of the world. Whatever you get an actual be for somebody that is going to launch 10,000 blog posts. Some sports in her stories.

Like all.

It's just not worth it back in the day when there was only like a few athletes from each board because I don't have a Twitter there were that many media certainly like there were only many individuals not like whole brands on twitter, you might actually get you know dear Intervale put a report out about so-and-so was looking for more money and so they would to a new team that have a likable guy.

Your reports crap we were looking for more money.

You don't know what you're talking about. I don't like rebel might be like when I talked to an agent that you whatever like you get twitter briefings on right now. More and more just not worth it for the biggest people to get involved in twitter beats right like your brand you can get drag down. It's not worth to open yourself up to, so most people just keep it light. Keep it breezy maybe you do a Dogon tweet that even that is a little bit like him to try to make a joke, but I'm not actually like another person or whatever but not on a Lamar Jackson who is one of those dudes to especially CM is like a beefing guy, but he seems like a very authentic guy is trying to act any certain way. You just being Lamar Jackson. This randomly started were Bernard Pollard, Junior former safety for the ravens, even though I knew to work for now it is it easier Baltimore sports radio go on tweets no top wide receiver will ever come to Baltimore while Lamar Jackson is there plenty wide receivers bit available in the off-season. LJ has been started.

Nobody wants to go begin the respect but they don't want to play for him. He's good, but is not able to make all the throws bar Jackson responds human cabins and seven point with the ravens of never heard of you to be a small boy, you got Super Bowl because of Ray Lewis and Ed read that year, then Bernard's group applied there. Still, both using crying about you is like there laughing like I really like him got out of the doctors facts are facts. Make sure you call me champ.

Good luck getting one Lamar doesn't really take that peace offerings says never nobody speak of you, I did Google you little bro never heard of you until I seen you keep this in like he was a Hall of Famer, you are far from it like ocean like a cross oversees you far from it. Stop flagon. They never said you was fear to go watch NASCAR probably better that for you. Anyway, I just appreciated Lamar Jackson at not softening anything fully going into the twitter beef. That's where the twitter beef with the few minutes remaining twitters down right that I would've twitter beef cut the wonderful to be down cuts would be short you post the video of me not showing up on top. When you do that why you made me look bad about maybe have a twitter beef that's fair enough when the lids are related. We have just enough down the side of things are overrated, underrated or properly rightly rated.

This is rightly rated. I think we got in overrated. I think they've been underrated sure thing that I just showed up for the show like 12 o'clock and 30 seconds being here your taping interviews before the show is merely running out to my car lingering a little too long.

The lobby talking to Jesse before you show me all your stuff was on is just so people could see that that's true I somebody text me I need to bring back the oversized laptop desktop to find my large laptop computer because the stream of their like a little per bar. All you got is your towel up there associate they couldn't see that I've got actually two different screens that working off of the laptop in front it looks like you work at the purgatory just wing it, love it like no no no no got multiple screens here in front of me and working it bring back the extra large laptop.

People know got noted from the first up on rightly rated Finland's fitment (underrated rightly rated this comes up.

There's no audio. Sorry, I put the between and there she could see it sucks To describe this to you Finland somewhere Finland.

There's a baseball stadium where about 10 feet right of the first baseline running parallel to the first baseline.

There is a creek amino River.

There is a video going viral. Yesterday where God makes a diving play towards the foul ball toward the foul ball on the first baseline diving go get a ball and he just slides right through it into the river with the amazing part about it if it switches camera angle to a camera, situated on the river. You can see the baseball field from the camera I the only reason the place that camera in that position to catch people falling off the baseball field into the river so you know it's a problem much like we got bridges and overpasses that are too low.

Here, the Triangle area one famously in Durham. The creek Greg Street bridge starts with a G like 10 foot eight or something that we got the P St. bridge in Raleigh.

The cats are so down if you put a camera on their you are merely trying to catch people getting crushed not actually trying to help the problem to save this camera. I just got hilarious like people are continuing to fill people falling into this creek instead of just putting up some bedding or something that would permit it. All that leads up to his Finland overrated underrated rightly rated to give us a bash and underrate my dog. Go canes angle that these are not always best to know several times and Toronto is another one just very cooking, adding all fins and finally on rightly rated ham is ham overrated underrated rightly rated this comes up because Ham's restaurant the final one closing down a few of the final one was, but I saw a picture of it used to be hams in.

I know Greensboro, Chapel Hill, Fayetteville, Boone, New Bern maybe was an institution I guess it was pre-Carolyn a allows but just had that vibe of like I may not be getting the number one meal but I know exactly what the conservator serve beer the lizard burgers and the games get right. Like that was kind of hams casual but good enough that one of Franklin Street hams citizen twitter I'm not doing God can't believe is not how we ever live not weeping necessarily philosophy on the spot. To my I say get a nice run hams is ham overrated underrated rightly rated, rightly rated ham said slightly overrated recently had a pass a death in the family and I live in the South, so everyone brought him biscuits and ham some a little over him, but overall it's probably rightly rated is currently overrating it a little bit. This is the atom gold shell June 19, 2006, but it all started May 6, 1997 with the announcement that the Hartford whalers were coming to North Carolina transition of heartbreak.

Figuring it out on the fly became the 25th anniversary of the presented by the Carolina listen