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GG Jackson decommits from UNC basketball - Should the NBA trade their age limit?

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GG Jackson decommits from UNC basketball - Should the NBA trade their age limit?

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July 15, 2022 2:26 pm

With GG Jackson decommitting from UNC basketball to reclassify and attend South Carolina, the questions rise about the NBA age limit. Sherrell McMillan of Inside Carolina joined to discuss how the decision impacts North Carolina basketball. Also, Mike Decourcy of The Sporting News joined to talk about how NBA Commissioner Adam Silver has said the NBA should look to lower the age limit to enter the NBA and the NBA Draft.

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Also new hurricanes defenseman Brett heard Brent Burns will be on the show but I feel a little. I feel a little sad today feels that might involve we might've seen the last time let's start so we can just get right to it did not have his a game just did not have his a game over an opening 36 holes that will demand no worse than level par in order to play the weekend.

I mean seriously where a major championship and Juergen have to be. It's possible that you might have to be under part II think the cut is going to be even what it might be under par, Tiger Woods could manage today only a second round 65 set. Sorry 75, and nine over par through two rounds, he birdied the third hole today then bogeyed the fourth, sixth double the 16th and the last insult was missing a four footer for birdie on 18 grade wasn't making the cut would have been great to have them walk off that final green in style place would've gone nuts. Jack Nicholas birdied his last hole at St. Andrews. But maybe it wasn't his final competitive trip around the old course, but then again, maybe it was physically able to virtual thing here is an undersized survey feeling I will play more of her children's book on the phone bill around the way comes back around here so the warmth innovation team got guys standing in respect of their involvement in this event, the amount supported the players, the nonsales getting is a plan for going out and looked over there and give it to JT did the same inches. This is something to it. This is different.

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I think many more major championships long as long as he can walkies get to play many more majors. There is not an open schedule to go back to St. Andrews for the next four years. I got the next three planned out there going to Liverpool next year, then I believe it's Royal port rush. The next the next three are planned out and there's no there's no set schedule when there were to go back to St. Andrews. Usually they go every 5 to 7 years. So these 46 and what was ankle in the shape that it's in. You just don't know how many boys get to play my sense is that he will play another open at St. Andrews. I think for him. This was one that he felt like he could compete, but his putting was awful. Tiger Woods parted like a 12 handicap for two rounds.

It was just not good and like Tina green's game wasn't incredible but had he departed reasonably well, he would have had a chance to make. That's how bad his putting in his work around the greens were just absolutely terrible. So I don't think it's his last trip around St. Andrews I think will be back when they come back, but man it was just a bummer that he didn't even threaten to make the cut.

Cam Smith is absolutely destroying safe St. Andrews today is 600 par through 10 holes actually to 11 holes today.

The 600 par through 11 holes that it might be 12.

I think it's 12 holes today know through 13 8600 through 13 holes today, lacking 11 of the poor overall he's actually missed for him to almost give me birdie putts had for him it's anything inside of 15 feet. He has been a machine today. Cam Young dropped the shot early, but is now at 10 under par, he too has missed two very short birdie putts. One of about 4 feet. The other about 6 feet so he could really be in the lead is a Dustin Johnson shot a 67. Today he's at nine under par in Abilene through two rounds here in 2015 before, fall apart group at 800 par with Scotty Scheffler and Terrell Hatton Taylor Gooch Adam Scott Patrick can't lay safe. The gala all 700 Rocky Rory McElroy is also 700 par but is kind of a neutral. If Rory were putting better today. Rory might be 12 under. He has missed basically everything he's looked at from 15 or so feet and it did make up about a seven footer eight footer for birdie on the fifth but even that was to avoid a three-part par because it is his lack part came up well short. He's he's playing tee to green Rory's plan really well, but he has gotten really nothing out of it. And for those of us that really want Rory to experience another major championship, especially at St. Andrews.

You know there's a lot that is a lot riding on for me is a lot riding on it for me. Dennis, did you have any action on Rory known him I had it yesterday only in the opening round six under 600 was very good but it could not challenge cam Youngs Wake Forest got Daniel, did you know the FBI gets very much a Wake Forest guy so was so very cool. So Rory is headed inside 5 feet for birdie on the sevenfold see if he can convert that right so I know why I was I was a fabulous guest for Hayes was a niacin must know the hurricanes better team today than they were a year ago. I'm not sure. Hayes asked me that I know I went out with Chris Lee yesterday. I think they used it in the news and he asked me that question yesterday on the hurricanes better team today than they were a year ago and the short answer to that is no there not.

But I also do not believe that they are anything close to a finished product at this point the rebuild or the reconstruction of the team that totaled 116 points a year ago isn't complete. Although if you look at their team you would say all they got 13 NHL forwards, assuming that Drury is the fourth line center in nature's is re-signed and they have a full complement on defense right, they've got you to Gardner is one of them at this point so you look at their team and are there. They got enough players now, but that this roster if this is the roster, then the answer is an absolute no, they're not as good as they were a year ago that that team last year was better but it was a good start. A very good start to the retooling they opened up free agency day not really with free agents almost almost got Mason Marshman but you don't like him anymore just stinks Brent Burns, who will join us later on Max patch you ready that's a good start to rebuilding your team again hundred and 16 points a year ago I was one of the things that is really great about covering the team and doing the podcast and there was sort of a morning after podcast because I did one quickie about a 20 minute podcast about 11 o'clock Wednesday night and got it up because ultimately I was guilty to doing their resume by one person, but there were other people to cut a reach that you do the podcast and my intent was to not want, but I thought I was just a quickie. I'll give you my quick thoughts and on the three major moves that were made Burns patchy ready and Andre caccia, but the so I put I put out a quick podcast but they at least handled the major things they had to right away.

Number one need and I know people got wrapped up in scoring and all that number one need was a right defense.

Somebody who could play the right side ideally manage a power play and even better could he play top line ice time with Jacob slated well with you to talk to that guy Brent Burns just little bit so I do think they figured that out. I believe that that will be the best pairing in franchise history among top players. I don't know how long Brent Burns is got left. Maybe we'll find out. Maybe he'll tell us exactly how long he's got left. He's got three years left on his current contract, so that was job one. But they also needed to find somebody else to score Max patchy ready if he can stay healthy should be that guy. My job is not done really job out over my career as you get older and as James get better as boys get better as you go further than play also gets harder and harder to do so. I know I worked in my draft every day trying make sure that often set my offenses and dried up, especially as we get older and start glassed got better at being a bit smarter on the ice trough yes my body and whatnot so I've got so much Stephen and you know what he said is exactly what they told me so. The transparency there is someone to come in and help them but so important in the playoffs that you have depth because you guys. But when the cop sits in several over four lines looked over the last three years.

This will patch your he's talking about getting better at this 54 points hundred 58 games. So yes, he has gotten better at producing points over the last three seasons. Problem is, last last year only played 39 games and over the course of his career, he has not been as durable, not like he's missed huge swaths of the season but he's got a couple of 66 games out of 82 64/82. There are is only if easily played 80 games in a season at least 80 games three times so Carolina needs that guy to be in the lineup and they need that guide to be available in the postseason if he's healthy. It's a great I mean there's just no doubt about if he's healthy. It's a great ad they just kinda need to be.

They don't need to know but they really have to have their fingers crossed that he stays healthy. He is a six time 30 goalscorer that but that's that's big time. He had a dozen power-play points a year ago and 51 I believe in four years with the Golden Knights. He's a big body to show 20. Look, he's a good play really good yeah hopefully you know that they replant to replace a lot, but I also I been saying this and this.

This is I think what bothers hurricanes fans will get a move on. Do not breaking news because I know you guys talked about yesterday in the D commitment of Gigi Jackson to move on to that in just a second, but the fans don't want to hear the biggest way for the hurricanes to take the next step is for the players the core players to get better so no one wants to hear that but they're not there not taking another step because Max patchy ready there to take another step because Sebastian got better.

Andre specs the cough got better. Yes, Perry took Eddie and me got better table terrified and got better set. Jarvis got better.

Those are the guys who are going to take you. Hopefully to a Stanley Cup. Max patchy ready. I don't know how best how better to say it but if you if you think that Max is good to be the difference use. You could not be more incorrect. The difference has to be there best players and I and those of the guys I mentioned upfront golden studio in my mental speed to capital financial advisory group.

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I don't about meaning, but other than he's a great player would get him so big picture for me.

Yeah I think big. Not a big deal that he is number 100 called back changes over the last five years you're able to mitigate a loss like that Carolina a variety of different ways know now have the transfer right and in the past you know if the number one recruit that he wasn't coming in July you be scrambling want to does want to fill the bottom to clack but I think that it's not as bad as it would've been no role in the first year is difficult about college basketball change.

I think where does impact them for the 2023 20 2014 and when he would've showed up.

I now have a big hole 45 and that is proven to be really valuable for you or David started with pretty manic, not a happy nap who likely for deposition this year and the next that are looking Gigi thought, and then even a couple years there other players already have identify for that reticular condition think that the big thing is, now they have to try to figure out who got that flight not to come if you can let your light so he re-classifies his that's ultimately what is going to happen here, and it did, it appears that South Carolina is I know if there's been a commitment to South Carolina or not, but man the state newspaper has been at absolutely buzzing about this so I'm guessing hub if he reclassified tell me how Carolina is in a scholarship crunch that they couldn't find one for him this year. What happened, though you committed the April 27 28 and you know the transfer of portal you have to enter a primary part eligible next year that Sunday.

Karen Walton big argument be into the portal giving them one polish of available 12 Garvin Fellowship all coming back.

They have 1000 and basically from that point from a first until eventually. When he didn't commit even see. They did have a fellowship open and we do know the subject was broached with Ugandan families just a matter of at that time, we think they didn't want to reclassified and I think that's where a lot of the confirmation from you and can come from is that he did make the commitment and then he had an opportunity to request UNP in 2022 but opted not to so Carolina I think the math kind of is networking Gigi Jackson next season and you know I think it it'll work it would work out so what changed that caused him to think, to want to reclassified now meeting want to reclassified then when there was a spot open.

What changed in the last two months now and I can say I don't know he didn't want to reclassified old folk didn't want to.

Whether or not he acted wants to try to figure out that is that the question that everyone can want to know if UNP is where you want to go ahead as possible, then why not reclassified and go there because it was an opportunity is the question that everyone Sharon McMillan at Rell DMC. One of the great Twitter names ever sear us on the roads as an inside Carolina recruiting expert, so is there. It was there a sense that because he's the top. You know, one of the top if not the top recruit in the class that if if your choices are between North Carolina and let's just say South Carolina did you have to go to UNC and that maybe deep down, he just wanted to go to South Carolina or place close to home. The pool and you is from right outside of Columbia and their whole life. All family there. I get the appeal and then you know with certainty the college athletes get now that there are ways to help you guys stay at home, so I think that part of it and then if there the idea along with reclassified into 2022 and if I know you have one last chance to kind of be at home with her family before blocking NBA why not spend it on some school in Albion, the hometown hero thought that that appeal can't be discounted is what a lot of full suspension triangle.

Yet in promoting to get to know some of the bigger powers like Alabama and Florida, Georgia, stuff, and I think it kind of the opposite happened in this regard and final question for Sharon McMillan inside Carolina in general it seems like Hubert Davis is done very well in recruiting. They have good class coming in this year. What you looking forward however they don't. I think from the Pittsburgh game on in February and I think you give them a plus. Before that, probably like a beaver on the recruiting trail. They deftly are getting into rooms and talking to kids that maybe they wouldn't have before. In the last couple of years have a commitment from me was her who the top 1520 guard depending upon who you ask and 20 335-2000 player and is a lot of local talent and the upcoming classes in the junior class in high school in North Carolina and South Carolina today with the mind that get players. Your overall good job and he's also really using the new part of the modern game to transfer total in finding guys in what is essentially outrageously hit a homerun pretty manic.

They thought they did a homerun with Dr. Garth. They think they could homerun with the net using all of the available avenues for roster construction player acquisition. I think it's something that you will McMillan at Rell DMC on Twitter since I Carolina I thank you very much often appreciates the well Thompson so the the NBA's talking about lowering the age limit from 19 to 18 Adam Silver is an advocate for that does have to be collectively bargained. I believe, but that is something that might be on the horizon for the NBA. Our next guest, Mike Corsi of the sporting news not a fan. We will discuss it. I understand his point but there are two different things working against each other being fair to the kid and what is good for the sport.

June 19, 2006, but it all started May 6, 1997 with the announcement that the Hartford whalers were coming to North Carolina transition of heartbreak of figuring it out on the fly became the 25th anniversary of the presented by the Carolina listen my one of the things it is a bunch of things I want to talk to Mike Corsi about a lot of things to get is the fact that the NBA has openly talked about the commission of the NBA had silver has openly talked about lowering the age limit for draft eligibility from 1918. Now there was a time where they were going to Ricky's the age limit to 20 and in fact sobering. Talked about raising the age limit to 20. A few years ago and that's when the idiots in college basketball were sort of demonizing one year players to the point where Adam someone well benefit if they don't want to. Maybe will take them so this is where we are. Mike Corsi of the sporting news my friend at TSN Mike on Twitter has taken a break from writing golf columns to talk basketball joins us on the road so how are you I am well Adam I'm taking a break from writing.

Writing. Golf called like I can retire now to write my route. My one half creek. Derrico sometimes there are interesting stories that bring you to sport you don't normally write about, and there's no question that live golf has become whether you like it or not, has become a very interesting story. I don't want to have that discussion here because I've talked to him too much about it. Let's talk is a few things I want to get to get your thoughts on what Adam Silver had to say because here's the way I look at this issue is that I think I agree with your overall point that it's not good for the sport to have 18-year-olds playing professional basketball in the NBA. Scott is just bit becomes less of a product.

When these kids were not ready to play at that level are there but I have a fairness problem that I can't get away from and that they should be allowed to some of these guys will be ready but they should be allowed to make that decision.

How do I balance I think first of all, now that we have name, image and likeness that you have a G leak no longer a question of can you be a professional basketball player can make back money playing basketball. After high school. That's almost universal now.

If you're good if you're accounted basketball player you can make lots and lots of money without entering the NBA. What you have to understand is the NBA.

Like when people talk about we talk about the NBA and how much players are paid what they forget the concept of a product but not your labor force building the product that is your product and so you have to look at the product of the which is the competition among elite basketball players what you have to look at how you protect the integrity of that product is like if you're buying let's say a TV like whatever company you're buying it from doesn't just say how well this one is almost good enough. This will force almost good enough to make our calendar to think that in you know it you this is your product so shoring that you take the best care of your product should be Adam Sobers number one priority and when you look at the failure rate of high level basketball players during the crux approach era when those were your best your best prospects and the failure rate was far too high yeah okay so KG and and Lebron, especially in Kobe. They made it. You know and you know like I said to her user on Twitter the other night like Mozart didn't need piano lessons. You know I mean like he just had and so the next time you find me a Mozart you know that it is germane discussion, but there hasn't been a Lebron he came out of high school in 2003. Have anyone close to him in nearly 2 decades. So I don't think that it's wise to be injudicious with your product and FYI I'm really surprised that silver continues to go down this road is teams don't want to talk to dozens of people out want to go to high school they want. They want the certainty of someone who competed at a high level and I could be the igniter could be Europe.

It could be Division I college basketball but they want to see that player and how we adapt to instruction on how we adapt to to delete strict strategy imposed against him, which he gets in. All three of those. Thank you, at least most of the time so that those are the things they want to see, and I think that it's a mistake for the NBA to ignore the voices of of their their own constituency might conceive the sporting news is joining us here do we have data that says that we get a much better idea after one year of college because Mike I mean, maybe it's a little bit better but I don't know that it's dramatic I could print on what one considers dramatic guy. I did a piece free for years ago called stern warning that was that I was kicker headline calm.

I don't go with the rest of it was. But basically, Adam Silver don't do this you and the one year players.

The one can't outperform perplexed pros.

Every level, and I think the most germane was that in the whole of one of the repressed approach era only nine players out of about 36. I think it's the number eventually made an NBA All-Star game, and in that year. Now there were I think 110 wanted done by that point total and not in any particular year 11 of the 2520 1820 1911 of the 25 players who made the All-Star game that you wanted done storming they wiped out the record the entire record of the press to pros in one year so II think it's I think that shows that those guys are Brett better prepared to go and I think we seem that obviously like if Lebron had gone to college would help it but it would hurt, but he didn't need it.

He was the greatest basketball talent we've ever seen and Kobe worked his way into it and Kate and her tremendous talent to work his way up you look at Kobe's 1st to 3 years coming killing the NBA level wasn't the same for KG the only one who's been able to walk out of the high school gym and onto an NBA floor and immediately be historical brought my exclusive the sporting news is joining us here like I said I understand with your point about the sport. I haven't.

I just have a fairness issue that I have a hard time kind of overlooking so that you credit it back, but they are going to have to start deconstructing everything that can be a dark talent acquisition profit the draft become untenable rookie salary Which is the worst. Well, you never done yet is totally accountable about the rookie salary. It's a lead they thought it would keep more kids in school right and it did the opposite it back and as soon as it did the opposite. They should scrap but I don't think, but the legal like the cost control. They liked not having to negotiate.

Glenn Robinson was the last one you negotiated this massive contract and Glenn was good, but he wouldn't as good as the guy went third name grant helped. I was genius, wasn't too bad. The grant had so many ankle problems in his career because who knows how great he could have been. But yes, the rookie wage scale and the NFL got jealous and in the NFL did it and that's the worst because they shouldn't even call that a rookie wage scale in the NFL. It's just it's just the contract. It's your first contract because most of those players never get a second one. I let me let me ask you this you wrote business. I found out about it you wrote about this the other day because otherwise I'm not really intently following the Western athletic conference but their plan on seating for their conference basketball tournament is the goofiest thing I ever I've ever heard.

Basing it on Ken Palm and other statistical measures.

Why not just put like liberal dice it be the same. I don't understand like a pyramid major-league you are you are who you are. You been getting 12 1314 seats for your entire existence as you stand. Now the last time they got anything that wasn't anywhere near this was like they were totally differently like there was maybe one member that still left in the New Mexico state and the lack like 100 years. Everybody else's rotated through like a revolving door in this iteration of the lack I mean you don't get double bed and you don't get high.

See you if you're really good as New Mexico state once this year you get a 12 and then they went out B Yukon, but it's not going to get much better than that. If you want to go out. If you're if you are New Mexico state. You think you're really good and you can find a way to get a good schedule to get the right term or whatever, more power to you. Maybe you can sneak up to us eight or nine or maybe if you do it. What Murray did this year, you get to a seven it to completely distort your league standings in order to… With the weirdest part to me totally neutral tournament. It's all played in Vegas so it's not like you're giving a home-court advantage to anybody so the advantage or give anything slightly better place on a neutral court bracket and for that you're completely distorting your leaks training so that no one who follows your league. Like if you're a fan of of Stephen F Austin or whatever you know never know what place your I mean if it's ridiculous and it's just no more example of mid-major programs feeling like if they're not trying to hard and they're not trying hard enough.

Mike's currencies with two minutes left and I was sort of following what's going on at the big 12 meetings and they're talking about expansion. Whatever I mean do it you can to save your league. Pack 12 is going to be difficult to see that league staying together because I think they're just ripe if the law southern calculus UCLA if the big 12 expands. It's going to take your schools away.

They might end up with six schools left in the pack 12. Who knows, but there was Sonny Dykes, the head coach at Texas Tech with Texas crude wit. Whichever one of the Texas schools TCU that said that we need to make decisions that are good for college football, not just the power five and I'm like you just are you are you new here because this this is good for college football but I'm not sure that college football is going to exist like we see it exist now, five years from now.

It's only about money and about money forever.

I mean really I get on people talk about the traditions of college football going away which ones we talk about ballgames. Good I mean they'd never been good for college football. I ate it always been ridiculous to turn over your post outside concerns.

I you want to play in a state day game in the Rose Bowl stadium. It doesn't have to be the Rose Bowl and I just don't think you're losing that much and that relative to members conference membership and rivalries and all that sort of thing and be seen that change really for what now 35 years so I the one thing that you know that I see that I don't think enough people are too many people are overlooking. I saw one quote in the athletic this weekend, a story about expansion and realignment and all that that basically said I believe from an ACC employee on an ACC conference employee, but an employee at one of the thousand members that they have in the league that said that the league is finished and I'm like what you talking about. Where are they going to go and how are they going to get there, given that they have a 14 year contract with each other right. There's just so much panic, but the difference in money between being an ACC member and being a SEC member has been significant for the last 10 years I would say what the ACC is made about two thirds of what the yeah and yet, that since the football playoff was put in place, not eight or nine years ago Constance pin that right there over and over and over again is it harder then when you have a euro an extra you know a couple of million are an extra 10 million or 29 or whatever to be, yet hard but it hasn't stopped them. The only way I see this being a significant factor in how college sports operate is if they are forced to treat the athletes as employees want to become an employer employee relationship, then all that extra money that extra 15 million or whatever you get and it becomes a significant difference, but until then it just it's harder and but it's not undoable.

We seem to know anything. My goodness they were doing it with like chewing gum may make the elite 80. It can happen. If this is a little harder for those who are not at the advantage fleet. Villanova won two national championships in three years playing in the Big East that doesn't have football anymore so they don't have that kind of money Mike Corsi of the sporting news NTS and Mike on Twitter you the best.

Good talk to most people speak again very soon. We talk about most sellers long contract but next time I promise think that this is the atom gold shell June 19, 2006, but it all started May 6, 1997 the announcement that the Hartford whalers were coming to North Carolina transition of heartbreak. Figuring it out on the fly became 25th anniversary of the presented by the Carolina listen now