Catching up on the Carolina Panthers as training camp is ready to start

Go have financially nice doing capital financial USA.com. This is the atom gold shell online.AG Jimmy Garon blows next team. The odds are's if it's not the 49ers. It doesn't say wills in a week. One team just as next team Brown's +225 delivered that's good happen. They saw Josh Rosen to demand the schismatic Giants were Daniel Joneses +350 Seahawks makes sense right. Drew Locke probably not going to be the answer there yet. Assume gathering of the end of the division. Gino Smith mean if you're not keeping them you I'd I've never understood that we don't want you but we don't want to play against you. What I don't get it. See Seattle's +350. The Texans right but they have settled on the guy from Davis with Dave Davis. Webb isn't Davis Webb with the Giants as another guy think how maybe his babies also named Davis Webb. I don't know what the text +400 Allianz Davis Mills is all right, Davis is that you did Allianz +500 bears +1200 jets +2000 Saints +2000. Where are the papers on this list Darren Gant papers.com joins us on the atom gold show. I'm really surprised the panthers are listed here. He's a quarterback who's a decent starting quarterback. I'm surprised David Tepper is not interested. How are you you you remember the panthers is traded for Baker Mayfield will work this work with me here, so let's just say you get the 49ers to pay, you know, two thirds of the contract and you give up a mid round conditional pick.

Think of the depth of the quarterback room that I will I will do to a visionary football plot of my acquaintance, the great Mick mixing the lead that it is inevitable that some day, a team will put two quarterbacks on the field at the same time to create mass confusion where's the ball going. Nobody knows that could come from any angle it going across the field going downfield its mixed theory, not mine, but all I know is it's worth thinking about. Why not all quarterbacks all the time. It's funny when I when I saw the story where the Ruffalo was given permission to go seek a trade made was facetious, and I'm being facetious here, although there's some truth in every bit of sarcasm as I've always doubt the people that Rock Hill Herald want to give me permission a secret parade by asking me to cover basketball tell you something down again so there were so I like panthers get on this and so many people completely took it seriously.

So I leaned into the joke like this would be another incremental step up a breathing give up anything for Baker Mayfield and are not paying a much right so it's it's it's a no-brainer roll of the dice. You know if I identified the place wagers that would either of them be the starting quarterback this season but next season, I would say probably not, but we'll see what have maybe Lamar Jackson will be the starting quarterback the following hard on me but it is that I think your point is, it is reasonable to think the Carolina Pampers looked across the quarterback landscape and you know what Ruffalo considered as an option here. Yeah, probably. But for a lot of reasons, including financial, I heard you running down the laundry list of teams. The could be Jimmy destinations are made. If Seattle wanted him they could really happen but the prayer have to take on that whole contract we are going to do them any favors right in their all and a lot of those other destinations you covered, but meaningless and did Pampers consider Jimmy yet. I think reasonable to conclude that they probably preferred Baker in the short term, for reasons help and financial because they did get Baker to the only man it sets up an interesting training camp certainly will be out there charting every every one of these guys, I can't. I will be able by the end of training camp, to tell you actively how many utilities to quit exactly which offense of lineman and that good thing and it think it's your ridiculous extreme. I'm sure but makes an interesting guy in the middle of you know, filing RF the old guy mailbag weekend and you know there's a lot of talk about quarterback people want to know this is moving the needle people are interested in a way that this is better than the kicker battle from a few years ago.

Oh, absolutely no long snapper battle from last year, which will continue better. Why would Thomas Fletcher coming back this year to compete with the grizzled veteran JJ Jansen is my guy meant world team JJ Janssen or Darren Gant followed panthers.com joining us here on the Adams also asked the old guy all the time. I panthers.com but as other reasons to go check out his work@panthers.com capital financial advisory group.

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I don't think it's any stretch to say that if you just look at the numbers you know Baker thrown more pics and families also term a lot more passes and a lot more touchdown.

I don't think that's necessarily aside and you know he thing is Baker has to come in and when it there is at least some baseline degree of comfort with Sam, and I don't mean that to say they'd be completely fine with Sam play in the white sands always played Sam at all. Obviously have to be better than he been to keep this job but he's also been competent.

He's been around he knows the system at all those things from been in the last four months talking big Mac pocket which he has Dylan into his credit demand always been a hang around the off season.

You know early in the off-season, you still doing some stuff on his own but you spent a lot more time here than he has in the past that I think is better equipped to compete for a job that he has been.

Again, I think most people probably go into this competition. Assuming that Baker Mayfield when it but he still got to go out when you know he's getting games makes complacent and get to know these new people.

I mean he is and how you basically never met half of these guys so you can to be walking around with a name tag on the front of the shirt I Baker like the one thing I will say about Baker and I said this for years and I think last year he was injured. Whether it's his non-throwing shoulder or not it impacted his play. Over the course of the entire season, and I've always wondered why people always think they rip whenever they talked about Baker. They were just my like stretching like he's hurt. I think he can't do what I do. I do like I mean I think he can be a you know a mid tier starting quarterback in the league somebody that you can win with. I don't necessarily think he's the kind of guy who can help you know make you win, but I think you can win with him well will say guiding one of the most damaging thing you'll allow me to interject your I think with damaging things in our National Football League discourse over the last 10 years or so is that you're either they go or bureaucrat, and there is no in between. The main prolonged time the Carolina Panthers had a quarterback inject all who win at his best one somewhere around the eighth 1912] delete the Super Bowl with a guy like that can be done only one team wins the Super Bowl and usually it's a team with Tom Brady the time that me nothing rolled over. I think Matt Stafford is a very good quarterback in the panthers made a play for him year or so ago and it didn't work out.

He chose Rams network out well for him, but Matt Stafford was never considered Leo Lee. There's a place and I think success can be had with people who aren't Patrick Mahon Josh Allen Aaron Rodgers Tom Brady during the war. Those guys and everybody else in the league has to play so there is a value been having some guy and I heard some a slamming Baker Mayfield by Sandy league average Québec been a minute since the Carolina Panthers of had league average quarterback play. If you do find that as the middle of the league so 15 to 17 they had one of those really think teacher while at cam Newton in the shoulder they have not had that so if this is an opportunity to upgrade. I don't see the danger do again. I'm not really slamming the move and again they didn't cost them anything. It's not really hurt. Now their salary caps Matthew Stafford also got a really cool cell phone deal out of the out of the whole trade any any lowball's amazing isn't it blackberry by the way what I miss my blackberry.

By the way, I have final BlackBerry Pearl that was that was all I had on the phone. Let me ask you this.

Somebody had to teach me how to use it and then I got an iPhone like two months later the iPhone was as I was told by my mother-in-law idiot proof will we can fix that. I so I'm reading your piece today and Amari Bardo defensive and Virginia Tech selected in the sixth round is wearing number 90 why Frank Alexander wore it. Once upon a time, what's the harm numbers are numbers that I get it.

I mean, it is peppers back in the day, but I can assure you there are former players who do not walk their number in circulation. There are teams that do not want to put certain numbers on new people. I promise you Julius peppers does not care a weather. Amari Bardo or Frank Alexander Frank who stands up wearing his number remain here really does so that part of it. Never a problem it while we are all minor P today. I do think there's a danger in retiring too many numbers because you start to run out right what numbers we have to retire 25 numbers you have a franchise like the Steelers or the Cowboys to retire. Too many numbers. While I mean I've had people alternately suggest to me that the Carolina Panthers should retire. 158 59 9089. You start going there, especially with those linebackers you start retiring Sam Mills is off the table and I should be but you retire Thomas Davis in the loop equally and also you will have a lot of linebackers run around the field on days where number 46 that's okay. You're allowed to do that now fine and I'm in number and artist. I want to see the NFL, that defensive tackles where single digit. I think that would that I have all my gosh with defensive tackle.

You were number nine med you what we know your good. We don't have to ask is that guy. Good weight is a nose guard wearing number nine.

He's good on a nose guard wearing number eight would have his number and his picture only think about love Julius peppers is okay with it I'm okay with it but I know I'm not really okay with it is to me should be that number 90 should be off the board, especially since he came. You never know someday.

Someday might be.

I do think minimum barrier retiring numbers for our young franchise not done it before. Should probably be Hall of Fame and Sam Mills, Jan Sam Mills was fine.

Sam was a defining character and there's a lot of stuff on Pampers.com about Samuel special Sam Mills to the Hall of Fame section I saw there's more coming. By the way, but yeah Sam was fine and I understand doing that early on because there was an emotional connection. They are beyond fact best player will yeah I think moving forward if you don't get the Hall of Fame.

We probably should be having that conversation and I don't think we should retire every Hall of Fame I will I will get on board with that. I don't let my numbers that nobody will wear 5159 8991, and whatever number you are components to its right there it's number two what everybody tells me yes I know you're the best there again and again with tutees for extra talent on twitter, go, go read as the old guy read is based on Sam Mills read the numbers base which is really just about numbers.

Johnny actors get to where number 10 minute ago. I don't want receiver. I have no idea who he is, where number 13 now and that's cool dear get you the best prescience on them.

Yeah, job June 19, 2006, but it all started May 6, 1997 the announcement that the Hartford whalers were coming to North Carolina transition of heartbreak.

Figuring it out on the fly became 25th anniversary of the presented by the Carolina listen to writer two years, $4 million per Nashville predators. I mean I wish you well. I if that was the offer if that was the if he would've accepted that on July 13. He probably be here, but they thought they were to get more you were looking for term and that's fine. He's at his age, Gondwana rolled a little bit. I think you basically ended up with what he would've gotten from the hurricanes of taken a hometown discount. Maybe even a little more.

Maybe the hurricanes would've gone 35 or something to for fours is good money for someone he aged with his numbers will help Nashville goes the other conference so you're not worried about all that stuff was good hearing. Obviously the betrayed Ettinger for Victor Raskin while treating someone else's nickel for two quarters like it.

It's not even addition by subtraction. It's it's exponential multiplication by subtraction Victor as currently residing in the where they now file I need. Always was great here. He also didn't score when they really needed him to score playoffs 43 yeah and so fine and in what what in the hurricanes need. They needed either an upgrade over Tony Dan's order replaced again. So which they did, and that's completely different classifier and unhealthy is the legal score will help the PowerPoint just like Burns and will you guys would convert some of the chances they create an Nino just in the end terrific defensive player on the line with with great to say yes Foster was great when he wasn't scoring, and for $4 million year you and the net more and you can do it inescapably has over the course of his career, but when you replace someone like him was Max patch ready if that's ready can stay healthy is another exponential improvement costs like just an absolute lottery ticket no idea.

Let's spend not gone far. I don't see that thing I know, I think it is a really nice time. I'll be I'll be curious who plays there used on phosphate together.

It's possible they don't look like I'm with you and with you and I like lost playing up.

I've always liked cosplaying up but I don't know how you kick somebody out of the top 6] make an argument that without a clear number two center if you're going to go with basically to three days. OPM injury installer 338 is getting very soft. Are you better off spreading some of the town around and using yes Foster is a go-getter with a couple still plan is already online using Foss on one line and an Nino sprinkling around a little bit so you're not so. The way this team works with project with with Saul. It made sense to load up those two lines and then come back to the start line. I'm not sure when you look at how injury OPM install that it makes as much sense to go with a 1234 system. I think you may be better off treating Saul like your fourth line center playing and would like Nason and Martin and then having three lines that have some balance. Maybe Foss plays the jury to protect them a little bit and you put some skill on the left side of that line. There's a number of ways you can go find a spot for Marty Neches yeah and then there is not an easy place to put him in this set up unless that's in Calgary difference different different conversation this week. Whatever case you have given up to get the check. Although I will say this, if the numbers didn't work out. If Calgary had kept the truck which you would say they won't be able to do, and they were have to train trade mind you planning right I would've moved heaven and earth to get my Giovanni as he like that she readies exactly what this team needs is a goalscorer easily diminishes and creates he finishes, he would be great like calling Caroline or something like that across. This is the gold shell June 19, 2006, but it all started May 6, 1997 the announcement that the Hartford coming to North Carolina transition of heartbreak. Figuring it out on the fly became 25th anniversary of the presented by the Carolina listen