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Remembering Dodgers Broadcaster Vin Scully

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August 3, 2022 2:52 pm

Remembering Dodgers Broadcaster Vin Scully

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August 3, 2022 2:52 pm

Longtime Brooklyn Dodgers/LA Dodgers broadcaster Vin Scully passes away at the age of 94. Adam & Dennis discuss how broadcasters are the voice of teams, and often times the introduction of a team to a fanbase.

Also, Mike Decourcy of The Sporting News joined the show to talk about the NFL's ruling about the Miami Dolphins and owner Stephen Ross' tampering violations. Also, the ruling of Judge Sue L. Robinson on Cleveland Browns QB Deshaun Watson.

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You have financial capital financial USA.com. This is the Adam gold show all the time. I this is the bottom gold show go to because everybody doing gold boxes here. We lost 1+ man I've been feeling a little nostalgic lately. Anyway, then Vin Scully passes away last 94 years old goes without saying that I mentioned this to go to watch some TV yeah I'm a little to show "that is true. It's in there twice you need over there. You know so I am significantly older than you did.

But what you have, like an old soul for for for sports for nostalgia and if you're a sports fan of specially of my age, you grew up in an era where you connected with your team. A lot of it through radio, not even to television. You don't have to go back that far before. Not every game was available on TV right the know when the first team was that put all 162 baseball games on television, but there was a time were about half of big-league baseball games were were available on TV and gosh we don't have to go back out for the Carolina hurricanes where the hurricane is like 68 games in the TV package they played to and now everything is available on television, but it used to be. Your connection to these to your team was on radio and now I was the kid who went to sleep at night with the big game on the little handheld transistor radio right next to my pillow and listening to a Mets game on the West Coast or a Knicks game or an Islanders game if they were on the West Coast so I was doing I was that that I was that kid and it was it was there that that we connected and we became real sports fans today. It's just not the same and I'm not lamenting anything, it's just different, not better or worse, if less romantic and we talked about earlier this week, the, the fun part of allowing yourself to care about the outcomes of games. The, the benefit you get from really allowing yourself to all, even extra romanticize it here, allowing the your favorite team to grab your heart, it creates some problems because the disappointment sometimes is powerful, but I don't think anything can compare to. When you really devote yourself to it. When your team wins, so for NC State fans who really devoted themselves to the cause. If you will, was 83.

Like right yeah right will give you just a casual fit anything fun, but if you're a diehard man. You still can remember, you can still close your eyes and conjure that up hurricanes fans here can still remember 2006, so there's there's that part like who's your voice growing up I had one in all honesty, because what I guess is the listen to Virginia sports logs is where I grew up in Charlotte. Mac McDonald okay was the guy, but I will say this time to send to Vin Scully right. My best friend's father is from Southern California and is a diehard dodger fan, so he is still that into my best friends any time in high school stay the night of the best friend's house. My dad's like my best friend's father would have the doctors games on and we were just watching. Listen to Vin Scully. That's what we would do that only back in high school just because that's what he grew up to me pass that along to us, but for me growing up. It was it was Mac McDonald was the voice of Virginia Cavaliers. That's what I listen to because that was local write you your your Steelers fan yeah was there us. Is there a Steeler voice of Maricopa market America. There are iconic Harry Callis with the with the Phillies running for the like. I have my own voice is to get to some of those little bit later on this in this stage I'm forcing with the canes question about our or chucking or both falls of those truck reasons I came in the studio last week were doing a special look back on the move from Hartford to North Carolina was spent some time talking to Chuck.

John will be talk to John next week for that to and yet there are two of my all-time favorite voices. The connection to the fans from between the team and the fans. The connection is always the broadcaster I wanted to start to read a tweet from a really good friend of mine so let's get going to start this by reading the tweet that West Durham put out earlier today and we all know his dad Woody Durham is one of the all time iconic college sports play-by-play. So many people is get my kids wearing my other teacher we got from Wes the go where you go do what you do T-shirt to raise money right my kids wearing that and I have no idea what it is but every time I see him I was never even a target, but every time I see it I think Woody Durham and I think Wes to West weeded out earlier today, one of hashtag K Woody most prize notes came long after he retired in 2011 from Vin Scully could believe this icon had written him prayers and blessings to Mr. Scully's friends and family tonight. Here's the note with the Los Angeles Dodgers letterhead handwritten dear Woody, I never had the chance to meet you but I know the love the people of Carolina have for you has reached Southern California along with great respect and admiration. Please accept my personal congratulations on a great career. Blessings to you and yours, Vin Scully and this is Vince going the bottom of the just that quick handwritten note. So Scully took the time. Having never met Woody Durham to extend those well-wishers after Woody's retirement, I may just Scully was incredible and I mentioned this a second ago. Whether you're a Scully fan or John Foresman, Red Sox fans would like remember Kurt Doughty, Knicks fans more about the best of the best Vin Scully passed away again last night started with the Brooklyn Dodgers in the 50s went to the Los Angeles Dodgers when the team moved across the country in 1957 he was the national voice for two different networks CBS and NBC. He did, the Masters he did football it was. He was everywhere right iconic probably doesn't do Vin Scully Justice Sandy Koufax pitched a perfect game. Vin Scully was there.

I walked out to the mound of fateful night where he turned and I know but tonight September 9, 1900 and 65 he made the top is left of his career. I'm sure because new eight innings he has pitched a perfect game wanting to account for Chris 9:41 PM on September 9 Sandy reading signs and was lined up to is so way, perfect game, I would think that the mound and not right now is the loneliest place in the world looking to get a sign on to Donald like to go away and 40 6 PM gain right away as Wyandotte and financial advisory group. We are talking retirement coach. Let's say you have more than $1 million balance in my 401(k) revelations connect actually come back and bite me because this is the thing that we did we get the Mirage received the Rogers of the desert before you see what's what. Her head was not there when your financial garage is thinking that that total balance in your 401(k) or IRA is yours. We have two people to want to get a hold of the two uncles North Carolina and Uncle Sam both never go to do some damage to the balance depending on what kind of other income you have loose 40% your belly looking at a million-dollar IRA Vegas we were 6000 you. So how do we get around is what you don't get around it could end up in jail. If you try to do what you can do tax planning to minimize the effect of taxation into the future. The texturing is coming out and we need to make sure to minimize the effect of the derailment of a financial accountant for the next 10 people will do it at no cost or obligation. Put together your very own tax and retirement plan 800-661-7383 or text Adam to 21000 for coach beetroot.

I think it gives you give me children when even a dog. I love the timestamp, yeah, these look, I mean the love that giving you everything you need from the same righties painting that picture. One of my favorite things about the greats and we all have different definitions of what it is but for me, I've always thought that the greats the best don't have to homeward write. I'm not saying that the Harry Carey's of the world were not outstanding broadcast is not about that.

They were homeless and that's fine. The separator for me when it comes to the Alzheimer's or that they don't have to homeward update do the game just as they do. The moment justice by doing it straight because the greats recognize that those moments will be remembered forever.

Even if it happens at the expense of the team that pays their salary this day in April 1973, 73, 74, when Erin when Henry Aaron broke Babe Ruth's record here Scully because it was the Dodgers in Atlanta is amazing is just includable incredible moment.

One thing to me. I knows together that long pause, or just her crowd noise. I cut that down just for time. I think something that a great broadcaster does well is knowing when not on that. That's a big thing like you just let the moment breathe did not a lot yeah one that were going to play here. I'm I know because I see the time of your that you you have for this play-by-play call when Kirk Gibson comes out of the dugout to pinch-hit in the bottom of the knock inning with two outs in game one of the World Series against the A's and me. Scully just says and look who's coming up write this because Gibson wasn't waiting on deck he was in just in the dugout. Many comes out of the dugout any lilies limping to the plate and look who's coming up, and then Scully just goes silent.

And for about 45 seconds crowd is bonkers, bonkers when Gibson stands in against Dennis Eckersley. I mean how much just crowd noise did you have to cut out the get all of that and all on like two minutes is just because you does the homerun call when he says the impossible happened that Sudbury across home plate celebrated was basically going back into the dugout. That's how much time it was some guy cut out a lot and here's what's really cool about that particular one which I watch from start to finish earlier today is even when there is theoretically is not a baseball fan look at it when there's nothing going on. First of all there's always something going on in baseball but even when there is no action per se. He is painting a picture and telling the story and will get you to show you kind of illustrate some of those things later on with some legitimate stories that Scully is weaving into broadcast which are absolutely hysterical anyway.

But the at-bat with foul balls and you know pitches out of the strike zone.

He has the ability to make them all dramatic and that is that is a rare gift. One of my favorite moments is actually one of his best had nothing to do with the Dodgers. 1986 incredible. I mean, the Mets went from dead to winning that game and then coming back and winning game seven but Scully and Joe garage Viola were just incredible on play-by-play that game was on NBC in 1986, but it wasn't just baseball for Vin Scully. He did football to as he did for CBS.

One of the signature moments in NFL history. I mean that's the start of the 49ers dynasties that really a dynasty but that was the year that was the best of the 49ers era right there went on for a long time because it spanned Montana through Steve Young.

Yeah, but that was the kick off of it against the the other Americas team against the Dallas Cowboys at the time 1981 they went on to win the Super Bowl in Pontiac, Michigan against the Cincinnati Bengals person two times they beat the Bengals in the Super Bowl and they the second one had been the driver that had nothing to do with Vin Scully just an absolute incredible voice are our connection to sports through Vin Scully are a couple of other things to get to before we break. Mike Corsi will join us in just a few minutes. Happy birthday Tom Brady five years old today, 45, five years old today. Tom Brady yes I get what I remember when Brady said a long time ago that his goal was to play until he was 45.

Well you did. I mean, we haven't gotten there yet.

He hasn't played down yet at age 45, eight Super Bowl may be more incredible than eight Super Bowl's is that in the history of the NFL. As far as we can chronicle. There are three instances where an organization has been docked a first round draft pick for breaking the rules.

Write an organization three times in NFL history has lost first round draft picks for breaking the rules and Tom Brady is at least indirectly involved in all 303 spy gate not his fault. I was more Bill Belichick spy gate because the patriots first round pick the flight gate weekend or we can debate all day long. Whether or not Tom Brady had footballs deflated to make it easier to grip throughout. Whatever he disputes it, but it cost the patriots a first round draft pick. And yesterday we had a tampering situation come down by the NFL and they docked the Miami Dolphins a first round pick. It is, I mean this is what the NFL chose to do it.

We can debate all day long. Whether or not the NFL did write but we have those three situations. The legal grace is interesting, the league agrees that Ross did tell Brian Florez to prioritize draft position over winning that's not in dispute. They don't dispute that $100,000 was mentioned/offered as incentive they just decided that it was a joke. I will point this out Louis Riddick to comment on that particular part as well. Every joke every piece of sarcasm is rooted in truth is it was a joke. I appreciate Kevin Teets weighing in his Louis Riddick on horses came out here with that with the statement. If I can really rule quickly is that I'm thankful that the NFL's investigators found my factual allegations against Euros are true at the same time. I'm disappointed to learn that the investigator minimize. Mr. Ross offers and pressure to take games, especially when I wrote and submitted a letter at the time to Dolphins executives documenting my serious concerns regarding the subject at the time was to investigate at the time which the investigator has in her possession. So Brian Florez is not necessarily backing off of what he asserted happened to him and the NFL isn't saying that you know you did say this is saying that what we did. Cannot find evidence that you often hundred thousand dollars lose games but we do feel as though there was some concern over the integrity of the game is related to prioritizing draft position over winning games. Here's the first of all I hundred percent believe that Stephen Ross tried to get Brian Florez to intentionally lose 100% believe that to be true. I also don't believe it's the only time that's ever happened. I don't I don't believe that if the only time that that is ever happened.

We understand that owners and to start a certain extent, to be even front offices are looking long term, as opposed to coaches that have more self-preservation on their mind. So I believe that that was true. I don't believe it was a joke, but I also understand even though it sucks that the National Football League can not ever admit that that is the case, what happens in a in a especially a sport that is so absolutely tied to gambling. I've always said this about the NFL. This is not a knock on the game. The sport is awesome this board is made for television but the fact that gambling on the NFL is super easy to understand for just about everyone fantasy football only beats you up once a week and a like play another fantasy sports that force you to pay attention every single day footballs. I would say anywhere from 25 to 50% of footballs popularity is rooted in gambling NFL can admit that they can admit we have a team or teams that are trying to lose so I get the fact that most mattresses are built to sustain a weight of 250 pounds is the ass I was ready for change. I love that the big thick mattress supports up to 1100 pounds so if you and your partner are both carving Eric and your partner are both larger framed there supporting you.

It's so important for me to tell the world about brands that are truly seeing and I love that make the company every great night mattress.com Mrs. Robinson brings us back from the 1960s movie graduate and is a perfect place to start with my friend Mike Corsi of the sporting TSN Mike on Twitter who wrote a scathing takedown of former district court judge Sue L Robinson's six-game suspension handed down to DeShawn Watson for at least 24 episodes of sexual misconduct calling it nonviolent. I don't think that's even possible. Violence has takes on many forms but I think there was a reasoning for it and will get to it with Mike Corsi. I thought that that would be a good place to start.

I thought the column that you wrote was 100% on point even though there was probably a good reason for her light suspension was going up. How are you Adam well I'm interested to hear what the reasoning is well you you what I communicated about this. I think whether she was doing it intentionally or not because she's that she is really rooted in law as a judge that Pres. really takes place, and I think her biggest mistake was just turning it nonviolent in the NFL is that a very poor job across the board. Even though there are some instances of longer suspensions. They done a very poor job of you know, considering and protecting women in their own orbit. So I think the NFL got what they deserved.

I don't think that they have done a great job but if you compare this suspension to prior suspension for four act of that. I don't have high don't I don't I don't want it because she turned it differently for four offenses say for untoward behavior. I think the best categorization for untoward behavior toward women that went in a variety of different category, but they dropped the ball once or twice a mean that the Ray Rice thing was a travesty and subsequently was proven to be when the video surfaced, but there were many more cases where the suspensions work in this rain for people like that Roethlisberger is eco-Elliott. They were in the spring so what they got.

So that's what you get is a 88 circumstances much more comprehensive than the others and I think you great works better wherever I mean that's all really difficult to do what were talking about a much larger scale. In this circumstance, and even down to the fact that people are coming back at me saying well.

She only was considering four cases that were presented to her right. I don't know whether that's what she could she consider not even then you have four people compared to a lot of these other circumstances. One person so I think four times more than you would at least consider the possibility that the punishment would be in that range and it's nowhere near that I think she's sheet throughout the entire ruling which was 115 or 16 pages. Basically laid out the blueprint for a year-long suspension to completely change she she. Even though she called it nonviolent. She basically said he endangered the well-being of limit.

Like so which one is it so she laid out below. She laid out the blueprint for a layout much longer suspension, possibly even a year long. I was surprised there was no find attached the NFL was obviously angered because it's clear the Browns can lie what however they want about how well you know we always structure long-term contracts like this, you don't find you can. You could pretend all you want but they structure the contract to minimize the amount of money he would lose by a fine beautiful wanted that, but logic and legal I think are two different things.

We often look at what is logical and wonder why that was not followed legally but I think whether she did it intentionally or not in this what this is my biggest point about this entire issue is that if the NFL really feel strongly about this and I hope they do then they have the final word. Roger Caddell can have the final say on this.

He can yield to himself and maybe maybe it was intentional maybe was not basically you want to do this, you do the heavy lifting. I am here for Roger Caddell doing. I know I think that there circumstance. I don't I would imagine they are aware of what the date they have no great choice at this point they have a better voice and a and a less better choice. The better choice is to acknowledge that their female fan base is going to be. It is going to have a problem with this punishment, sitting where it does I and and possibly a really significant problem, whereas the other side.

The other negative. On the other side of going to appeal and strengthening the suspension is that you probably get sued possibly get Susan the NFL, PAN and DeShawn Watson have suggested they would go to court and then you also undermine on what's basically it's first trap. Let me first lap around the track. This new disciplinary process. I think that given those two difficult outcomes.

I think that it's much worse to one goal for what's not not not right and to and more importantly offend a significant segment of your female fan base, which is a significant segment of your overall theme.

Much of the care center seats if if they were not going to punish Washington commandos for years and years and years of disrespect towards women that they employed then I just don't know. This is why I want to see the NFL put up this did I it. What would've almost been a copout to have Sue Robinson do their dirty work.

I think the NFL needs to do this on their own.

I don't do much for the hundred percent there. You have to prove that they care about the women in their orbit, I got I got I got it and Adam about 20 more hours right like that by tomorrow by tomorrow morning.

They have to they have to announcement an appeal and it will be very telling. I got asked about basketball.

The NCAA guess rules committee is good and is suggesting rules some rules changes, two of which I think are really good making flopping. I don't even know what a class B technical file is out of that's like a class B misdemeanor.

But making flopping putting that as a technical file.

I am all for getting flopping out of the sport they need to do that in the NBA as well. Do that in soccer.

We need to get the faking out of it. Are you on board with with making flopping on a class B technical file, whatever that is yet but I'm even glad that you drag soccer into it because I I believe that soccer and I think that in the USL now maybe it's MLS those two or the lower divisions of American soccer think it's MLS next to the for the younger teens for all the various MLS teams. If you go down that now there are different rules.

If you stay down there are different rules now and and I think it's a great and you can't timely.

I came up with the exact rule, but basically if you going to have to leave the field and can't come back so you can't just go down unless you're really hurt so I think that's a great idea and I love the idea of penalizing flopping like it if you if you start to go down before you get locked so I want to see how they define it when they went, especially at the technical file.

We've all seen players go down when they're not heated all and in the and that and that certainly is disruptive to the game dishonest and and I'm all on board with this idea.

I'd like this what they've done with with this iteration of the rules committee meetings because they didn't mess with the good stuff in there going after the bad stuff is just Brad Davison have any eligibility left Wisconsin this year. Last year Josh you can you can call this the Brad rule if you want. I still think you get a lot of argument from the other teams in the Big Ten.

I don't think you will get an argument from down the road and wrong know I'm still mad at that game and I'm even more angry that ESPN did a montage highlighting how great Brad Davison was defensively like are you watching these videos I got I got to get to something else real quick about this is I want to ask you a couple more things before you let Mike course ago from the sporting news at TSN Mike. The one thing I didn't like was it the added TV time.

They want to add a TV timeout during each half we have to go the other way. I think we need to take TV timeouts out of what I try to get out there. I know I've never liked the TV timeout concept anyway. My when I argued in favor of quarters. Not a lot of people would argue in favor of quarters for the foul concept not wish you and I are on the same same page here quarters better than hands and basketball. Yeah, for me it's not not as much. The file is. It lessens the need for TV timeout thank you because you have the natural quarter break. He could stop as many commercials in their that's fine but I'll I've said this for like 30 years that college basketball isn't played in half anyway. Leading four-minute chicken McNuggets that I've always because it's not because you stop every form so it's not plated intent and 20 minute half so that's one of the reasons why like the core concept because the game flows better so I don't understand why this suggestion is coming up.

I don't know who would benefit.

Certainly it to television games because of late timeouts and more so late reviews are already going to law and this to me seen suggestive of the possibility of making an even longer I don't think that's good for anybody. We need quarters five at the five minute mark of each quarter we have a TV time immediate break there.

We we have a break at the end of that at the end of the quarter, they can stop as many commercials as they want in 1/2 times as long as they don't take your time away on the Big Ten network at Mike Corsi from the sporting news at TSN Mike final thing premier league starts Friday. We have I believe Arsenal and Crystal Palace will get us underway Friday afternoon and then at 730 Liverpool at Craven cottage against Fulham relative I'd try to work this joke in here relative to early Holland new adman city. How do you think Darwin Nunez will do it. Liverpool get it relative Darwin nevermind I like it should. I think you'll find that the question for me is an and Juergen Klopp. It's been really trying to build up Roberto for me know and my question is doing that so they can sell them for more money order the early planning to plan ahead and Nunez. I don't know what the plan is yet I think I'll leave Nunez in there because worst thing that can happen to a goalscorer is if you put them out there and have to right now you put them out there and get a goal for the first five games and everybody goes all Mike and not not all that so I think it probably is good if they even mean even if for me know is just put on display. Try to get the price up for the 1st to 3 weeks before the deadline closes in the other European Lake. I don't think they'll sell him in England. I don't think they want to face but if he wants to go to Italy or Spain or something like that. The possibility of that will happen… When Nunez on my sassy team Darwin Nunez in Linux. I do, I do as he thinks I'm very excited for the start of the season Mike Corsi I'll talk to you very soon. Thank you very much for your time and you take care my scores in the sporting news.

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