Chip Patterson joins us to talk college football; including topics like Sam Hartman's injury, PGA over LIV, and will CBS be the home of this championship game?

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I know Hartman had a surgical procedure last night he was on the practice field today. Although he didn't practice. He's not going to for some time your thoughts on what's going on with Sam Martin. Obviously, you know, we wish that whatever the condition of the issue is that is gonna be resolved and that the procedure that took place is going to be able to clear things up so that he can be back and the timetable that Dave Clawson is willing to commit to is no timetable I'm to look away for schedule Wake Forest can still accomplish many of the things that Wake Forest would like to accomplish this season. If he is able to make it back before October 22. Now October 20 October 15 is the off week for the Demon deacons that would on for him to have extra time in practice extra time to get back in the rotation, but there are games that I do think even without Sam Hartman Wake Forest is going to be able to win VMI certainly is going to be at that list. Yes, I think at Vanderbilt. They will still be favorites.

Even without Sam Hartman liberty. That is another one right there, and Army.

I do think that Florida State is the one game on the first half of that schedule everything before that October 15 off week. That is the one that I would say maybe flips so if you are all over the win total of over 8 1/2 men yeah this probably breaks your heart if you think that Wake Forest was benefits first place in the ACC Atlantic division, which I guess would require Clemson. Losing multiple games because we haven't seen wake be Clemson. While it is done is been fantastic.I think Clemson was always good to be a loss and now I'm starting to think that Florida State is an opportunity for the Seminoles to pick up what is a much needed win on a very tough schedule again after Army you've got the off week and then come the games that will determine where Wake Forest is in the standings at the end of the year. What kind of bowl game. There might be for the Demon deacons and even know if to secure their place in the postseason yet again. That sort talk about Louisville Boston College NC State North Carolina thought like games that are not going to be heavily favored one way or the other and that is where you want the experience you want the production and you want the mastery of the offense that Sam Hartman provides so if he can get back and everything can get cleared up and he can be cleared to play by August, October 22. I think Wake Forest can still accomplish many of the same things that we thought going into the year again with only one game really altered by his absence. That's is a credit to get old and stay old.

That's a credit to assist him in the fact that Dave Clawson now one of the more tenured coaches at his current position and the ACC has built up some but really special. There is Wake Forest so incredibly significant, but again, if he's able to get it back for that really the tossup games the coin flips to the back half schedule and wait for should still finish the year where he would like to be, which is pointed okay.

They viewed the flipside of that, and let's just assume that Sam Hartman kingdom come back and will say from the bye week on.

I do think that when I don't know a ton about liberty. I don't know a ton about Vanderbilt but then I don't I know you you know more about anything, so I know that I Clark Lee, the head coach of Vanderbilt who said at SEC media day that his goal was to make Vanderbilt the best program in the country. Now that is very vague, very open-ended and I appreciate Clark Lee leaving it that way but with the quarterback in Mitch Griffis who is little undersized, although that's okay in college football and has thrown 15 passes in two years in the program. Even he still a freshman. This is his third year. I love the third year freshman.

I mean, I can see that being a problem. I can see liberty being a problem.

You know more than I you don't see those games being issues. Now that you don't have Sam Martin not vote not with an adjustment that makes it a coin flip. The way that I'm looking at some of those games against ACC opponents of the back end of the schedule Wake Forest at Vanderbilt probably goes into that game with Sam Hartman favored by two touchdowns now might be closer to 910 points about 19 point favorites lose a lot in college football, it is college football but what Vanderbilt benefits and working to boost its team speed under Clark Lee.

They still don't have like girth. They still have muscle. They don't provide those sorts of challenges that teams from the SEC or SEC like teams like the Clemson Tigers were you able to blow up what weight does offense of late.

The line of scrimmage because your defensive line is huge – is not with Vanderbilt building.

In fact, Vanderbilt relying on team speed to try to win at the margins.

He said there just behind schedule for what Wake Forest is been building up to over the last five years so I I go think that Wake Forest again goes in the Nashville probably favored by touchdown, you could lose again, but your you're expected to win, and liberty just can have a huge step back molecules did so much for the trees is going to on that schedule a few phrases can have a game or two. Where liberty is very pesky but I still imagine that that's going to be a spot where Wake Forest is going to be able to win that even without Sam Hartman 1/4 to Patterson his ear as he is every Wednesday you and I've been talking about this for a while. When the news came that the SEC was leaving CBS to go to ESPN were like bit giving everything to ESPN. We speculated that CBS would look to another conference and it does appear and were a long way from it being official. The Big Ten has announced it but it looks like the 330 Big Ten game is going to be on the on CBS. If I said that CBS fell up. Would you agree or disagree, I will hear from unmanned coach Pete the router with the capital financial advisory group.

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These conversations are happening well above my pay grade. I have been at this company evident CBS sports employee since 2010 and I've I've learned my lessons and try to represent the company write what I say from the position of just providing analysis of the way that all the moving and shaking is being done is that the Big Ten has created an opportunity if the reports end up panning out and we got it from the sports business Journal, the New York Post, you know, the act like it is is well reported that your new games probably gonna be on Fox night for 330 game is on CBS and that your primetime game would then be on NBC. What the Big Ten is doing is just tapping right into the most basic fan it really sucked, but with the primary start in Iowa right or your network comedies are your network dramas were targeted at the middle of America. What conference in the middle of America, the Big Ten meeting middle America middle entire country.*From freaking Annapolis to love when they are making this the most accessible college football products, possibly it is going to be. And clearly there will be games on Fox sports one Big Ten network will have its entire slate, but when you take the three biggest the three most important or the topic Big Ten games and you put them all on broadcast television, from noon until midnight. You were making your sport and your product as accessible as possible.

You don't even need a cable package to be able to watch the three biggest bins and gates every single week and that's I think that's pretty good marketing plan and I do think that is and I'm not getting too much and believe the media wars here, but as the Big Ten has ended its relationship with ESPN and Isaac Kim Fox is a 60% stakeholder in the Big Ten network so there is the ongoing Fox ESPN battle here. You're saying we don't were not even worried about the cable cut the cord cutters. All you need is a tuner to be able to access some of the most important Big Ten football every single week and I think that's casting a really wide net, which is great to do for your future. There is no doubt about that. The unit we we have talked about this for a while been saying for how long that when it all shakes out. The Big Ten is going to be the biggest player financially.

Now it might not. That's 330 window which will be the best Big Ten game will be the that will be the noon game, but that 330 window problem unofficial do as well in the ratings as it did when it was the first CBS the first choice of the SEC game but it's going to be to giant universities playing football so you could, but Wisconsin and Minnesota and you've got. I don't know 17 billion alumni who might be interested in that game because the universities are all so huge thing about this deal to Patterson is running is new and I we could talk about a basketball angle to this as well and I haven't gotten good clarity on this yet, but according to anticancer works in the Big Ten network works in the NCAA. He reported out that on an event like the champions classic which ESPN owns.

According to Andy Katz and I am just taking it one step further neutral site game within the Big Ten footprint which again is the United States of America that ESPN can't Eric and I just don't understand how they couldn't air the champions classic which they own.

I just don't understand how they couldn't air that so I still haven't gotten clarification on that.

But I guess they could if it was in New York City like Michigan State could play in New York City and he is being cared, but it does create what what happens to the Big Ten ACC challenge. I think what happens is there I go back to experience from precedent in a couple of cases. Number one, there have been times where, because of what's going on within the SEC the alignment in the schedule for big broadcast CBS to have that 8 PM kickoff.

Writing is not something that happens very often. But I do know that in the past there have been trades that were made. Once the season started unfolding. We want to flex LSU Alabama. The 8 PM slot. We've already used our 8 PM slot. So next year you know you get first pick. During this week and it essentially ends up being sub Lane trading cards and can you go work your trade machine and you hit it and hopefully the deal works and everyone agrees to it. The other thing that comes to mind was very similar, which is why I think we are working to end up in a place where you can end up negotiating some kind of trade in terms of okay ESPN will air the champions classic but then know there's some trade-off down the line is good and is going to be the way that these schedules are constructed. The way that these neutral site events are done. ESPN owns the events, but ESPN might be able to sell off the broadcasts rights to Fox for a certain price.

ESPN owns bowl games and then will and that's under ESPN events, which is an entirely different different Corporation from the ESPN broadcast side of things. Now is why ESPN is brought up on the ballgame so that they can eat from all the different bowls in the same time collected there but I think it's something like that were ESPN events would then be the company that would have to negotiate such that it could be aired on another network if they would be willing to do it might mean the end of champions classic I don't I don't think it means the end of that. I think that'll be worked out.

Let's remember also that ESPN traded a Purdue Penn State football game for Joe Buck so that was actually a trade. That's how they got Joe but this year they had to give up a football game to Fox to get it. I think the answer to the ACC Big Ten challenge is that that's dead and I think the answer ultimately is the ACC SEC challenge in basketball and that'll be maybe not as big a deal, because the S the Big Ten is a better basketball league historically with more interest in it, but I think for a preseason game. I think ACC SEC challenge will be fine which also creates the possibility of more due Kentucky and maybe that does mean the end of the champions classic and little play Duke in Kentucky every single weekend that John Calipari and John Scheier would agree to it every single Saturday night organ have due Kentucky at 6 PM Eastern time.

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Let's get to some some more college football things.

I will get them to talk about the coaches poll just for this reason them organ to get to the CBS boulders. I want to get your perspective on the on basically the landscape of Texas get a vote for first lien. I've got theory these so among the six at least six coaches super dry plate coaches poll. There are two that are in a very unique position in the nonconference schedule for Texas now Texas opens the season against ULN and you know you go through and don't I don't see about okay so note note, no doubt about it right was awake to Texas placement to the Crimson Tide home. Gosh need to make sure that Texas has as high-ranking as possible.

If I need to make sure that we are out here talking about how good Texas is, we don't want to lose sight of how good Texas is, we don't want to be looking past longhorns I need my boys to know somebody. They said that the best team in the country. I think Nick Sabin might've been that first place vote of the week. Exit the week after Alabama, Texas. Please UTSA you might remember 112 games last year went 12 and one and nearly went undefeated during the regular season North Texas boiled it a little bit late Jeff Traylor who is the head coach is an amazing personality for space introductory presser and I think that Jeff Traylor might have similar motivations to Nick Sabin in trying to gas up Mr. all Gastineau breaks Steve Sarkissian as much as possible because as Reddit, CMP pointed out a little while ago and I can't stop thinking about the most incredible week that we could have in college football. In September would be for Texas to beat Alabama. We have an entire week of Texas is back in lose at home to UTSA anything that we could subdue either on the Alabama side were UTSA to gas up and boost the rankings of the Texas Longhorns to make them feel as pigheaded as possible. I think are two culprits for Texas first place vote on the month of September on their schedule. If either Nick Sabin or Jeff Traylor. Josh this assist you in your mind is beautiful to Patterson.

Think about the joy guys every Wednesday here all right Alabama Ohio State Georgia leg is no point even talking about doesn't matter, one of those three teams is the best team in the country as we start the season. They have the most pro prospect. All of that. Blah blah blah coachable at Clemson think you guys had Utah as number four.

I'm just going to ask this question is the gap between three and whoever is fourth substantial yes the with Clemson probably has the best potential to finish at four. But there is some real damage that's been done. I think will abide and seen all of the ballots for the CBS ports 131 but I think there was some real damage that was done with the performance of DJ Hwang Woo Young delay last year where they think that these he's not going to get fixed and at where not going to see improved play, and you're still probably can see Clemson when the ACC Atlantic and win the ACC but they see it really is a one-sided defense first kind of dominance so that's why you saw Utah pop up because cam rising is it a very very good quarterback to be on. Thomas is a very very good running back that offense in general has been strong under Utah and Kyle Winningham comes with his own reputation. What we saw in the back and forth of that epic Rose Bowl between Ohio State and Utah, of which the Utes will bring back.

Not all of their key pieces. Devon Lloyd linebacker was a huge stud for them last year but enough key pieces that you look at it and say okay Utah is going to be really really good. We were higher on the Utes as a unit than the coaches poll and then I think a lot of other teams but you asked about the gap because it's top 30 and then the next group is like 5 to 6 teams. It's like spot number for the respondent number nine. I think you could throw them up and they all landed you could sort them in any order, and I'm not going to come up with the big argument then I think you start to see the next jump down once you get to about 10 or 11.

It's funny when we talk about you and I had a tone of the bulk of our conversation last week was about does the sport of college football need an expanded playoff to save the sport and you even though I'm against that.

I think you are to an expanded playoff for practical reasons. I do believe that's for survival. They they needed and be the biggest argument I heard against an expanded playoff and Dabo Sweeney said this last year is that man at 14 doesn't have a chance. What we doing this and do you think the fourth team has a chance barring injury to somebody in our key injury to one of the top three. Does the third team have a chance. Is it possible that if the top two so you cannot look past the many numbers which say that Stetson Bennett the fourth is a top 10 quarterback get a cold is QBR's efficiency numbers as yards per attempt. There is sort of anecdotally what your eyes tell you, especially when you want them up next to Bryce Young when you light them up next to Ohio State's CJ Strout and you say well these two look like they're gonna be battling to be the first quarterback picked in the NFL draft and you look like you can get drafted by Bill Belichick in the fifth know there's just a major drop off in the quarterback play but Georgia was so good everywhere else right that it made his life easier and he was able to have that. So when you talk about the top two. What I don't even know all three are going to make it to the college football playoff.

I think that it's possible that all three convicted college football playoff. But when when we really start to do the defined tooth coming of the top five in college football right now the reason why Alabama is an overwhelming favorite is that Nick Sabin wasn't getting the last year was a rebuilding year in an experience they took injuries along the offense of dining out freshmen out there that were ready to play and it required being down two first-round wide receivers for the offense to finally buckle against Georgia after they beat the Bulldogs in the SEC championship game. Much love to Georgia. I am glad that that starved fan base. Finally got to celebrate a vagrant rooted enough fought five stars and four stars. They'd been had all the talent and it's all in your backyard.

It was preposterous that Georgia had not added another national championship to the single one in their trophy case.

But when were looking at this team.

It took an extraordinary set of circumstances for Alabama to fall short. There in the national championship game. I think Alabama is beefed up. I think the deeper and those freshmen that weren't ready are going to be ready and oh yeah Alabama got George's best wide receiver and added it to its roster. Alabama got Louisville's best wide receiver roster and Alabama got one of the best all-purpose players in the ACC and Georgia Tech's Tamir Gibbs and added it to its roster all around. Oh, I don't know, the reigning Heisman Trophy winner in Bryce Young. There is an overwhelming number one then there is a top to and then there is a top three. I think it is not a debate in terms of that, the reigning Heisman Trophy winner, and they also have the guy who should have one will will later sit in the Heisman Trophy, who I voted for Lester. Will Anderson is just amazing and bio add Dallas Turner to your sort of like watchlist for your eyes because he is everyone can be focused on trying to stop. Will Anderson from having 16 1/2 status again.

Here is Alice Turner was a freshman who flashed in a big way and I think that he will be the benefactor of all these offenses try to provide extra blockers to will Anderson you're just not can be able to stop Alabama in the pass rush it. It's funny that you know there was a time where Alabama with its three for defense and all of its size and all of its five stars. It would squeeze the life out of you and that's how you win with a genuine care and that's how you win with Jacob Coker you got Derek, Henry and Trent Richardson in Eddie Lacey just ran the ball off 40 times a game, but your defense go out there and make the other team. Quit one now Alabama Stevens makes you quit with terrifying pass rushers that are ready to fly at like predatory cat like speeds and crusher quarterback and speed up the clock and Alabama has adapted and adjusted their high flying on both sides of the ball again. Number one with eight with a strong.for me, then there's a top to, then there's a top three and then there's a gap as Clemson Utah Notre Dame Oklahoma Michigan all try to make an argument for why they might be able to be the fourth best team at the indices from throwing as he stayed in there because I want to write to Patterson before we get out of here.

You mention Stetson Bennett the fourth and if I'm not mistaken for much of last year you jokingly referred to him as Hudson Swofford.

So Hudson Swofford was one of the so beautiful God it on a platter for me to chip I termed yesterday a three and one win for the PGA Tour. It could've gone either way, you got to the 17th T and you were and you were to up you still have that youth building grant Dragon into the barn but ultimately they can live players couldn't prove irreparable financial harm by being left out of the FedEx cup playoffs is that a proper way of looking at it and I have an idea going forward. But what you what are your thoughts on the ruling I did kind of feels like working to get a double or nothing, right like me me back on the first tee tomorrow. Let's run it back. I the end of litigation and the end of the pettiness between all of this, the immediate result of these golfers not being able to participate in the FedEx cup. I don't think that there is a huge adjustment to the way the review of the action in Memphis this week.

I'll think that there's a huge adjustment to know where were standing looking at the back and forth. I do think that there are some comments that we got from this ruling that will be significant when it comes time for the majors to make decisions. I think that there some comments and some things that came to light that are significant when they start try to start making the arguments of the official world golf rankings about the way the tournament should be treated.

And of course that plays right into the decision of what to do with the live golf tour and how to let it play into major championship contention. I don't think that the PGA Tour should be gloating about it though because when we start to look at the reported and inevitable in some people's eyes exit of the cam Smith and Markley should be on June 19, 2006, but it all started May 6, 1997 with the announcement that the Hartford Whalers were coming to North Carolina transition of heartbreak of figuring it out on the fly became Porter look at the 25th anniversary of the move presented by the Company of North Carolina listen that line you are starting to look at future where the PGA Tour is simply the American-based tour and the live golf tour is more of the global tour and the PGA Tour fancied itself of the best golf in the entire world and was the best place for the best golf in the entire world is more and more global stars continue to leave and go to live golf then that means that PGA Tour is no longer the best golf in the world.

It's American golf I'm I'm not sure I are hundred percent agree with it being the best American golf. Especially since at least half of the live tours can be played in the United States and also don't think that McGregor be more players going on that cam Smith Mark Leishman is really struggle to hear that he will be the last. There will be more to do think that cam Smith has a chance to be the asset of the year playing in all three events may be even winning the FedEx cup and then the next day saying Celia which would be the giant middle finger towards the PGA Tour, but have an idea because the Presidents cup has a chance to be completely irrelevant based on who's not there all the time. Cam I in team Tom Kim Gosch, the kid is amazing how about in non-Ryder Cup years because none of the writer covers will be able to play on the European Ryder Cup team PGA Tour versus live. Oh my gosh would this be good TV.

We will actually have fights.

I think that's what live wants II think they live with love be able to like date they live.

Would love to be able to create a WCW verse NWF like it. Would love to be able to create the television spectacle of our best team against your best team and let's sell the television rights for diabetes is a golf and credible theater. I would absolutely sign up to watch and I think that that is that that is probably one of the in games that is been entertained is that you create these rival tours and then you set up the storylines that play out in the majors and then you create team events at the end of the year and it's is very much part of the long term brainstorming. I'm sure win when the people got together and started creating or at least even pitching some of the people that are leave and go to live golf for me. There were people who would watch on like a Monday and Tuesday that of that ridiculous Tavistock between the two country clubs in Orlando Florida that played each other.

This would be super high ratings golf on TV chip. You and I just did it. So we are taking credit and the gig we get money for you. The best tip that I will get to tied into my commitments here over to the right as it's not it's hours you and I would initiate work and reap the benefits of this. Love it love it. Talk to you well alright, we had to go a little bit over with some stuff done because Jude but I got got carried away and always wanted Victoria to get away your okay so is national s'mores day you s'mores person is my problem with s'mores.

I will use for marshmallow see that I love chocolate dark chocolate better than milk but not marketed debated with people and I love graham cracker so I just don't like the marshmallow see that Pete's fan and I can get down with peeps screws you. You never seen or not. It's okay that there's never hurting adults like them. Oh yes, my dad realized one of one. I guess because he loves them, loves them and maybe that's what you need to like fancy ups more okay to change it up or something you know some people will make them boozy and they'll put like greasy cup in them or they'll use the cinnamon sugar graham crackers will that's not numbered for change in this morning is that not a smart name anymore. The former producer of this program forget his name used to like slam people like go take a good grilled cheese sandwich on. You put something on it like like tomato or triggers like a man now you're talking about a milk. It's not no longer grilled cheese and he has a point, but I will will just say that is just you just have to make if he likes more sobriety. Embrace it? Really doing it when it's hot outside.

Can't fire me thousand degrees Y standby campfire and do that. Very good point national s'mores.

They should be like and not over yet.

October is perfect for bonfire the Saturday of Thanksgiving weekend national s'mores day. We just fix that I can make the rule, so I may yeah, for whatever reason, Carolina Panthers fan, for whatever reason or point me so bad it's like an abusive relationship, how much longer them and they did disappoint me well Orlando these in perfect analogy. It's like when you first start dating someone and they make Valentines awesome because they give you great things and in the rest of the year, they stink telling Anya anyway I digress. Tomorrow would have been to multiple times.

Now it starts at seven. I'm telling you this today had time because it feels like it takes a day to get there so come in from Raleigh. I would say also bring up line shall, because the last experience I had. It was a torrential downpour so that can put a damper on things. And I checked and Charlotte there is about a 50% chance that means it's gonna happen just to get rain on like some of the all the world a better word get a lot of rain anyway so for viscerally funded. There was to stuff the kids tell about kids late and you write and and as suckers who love them. I'm sorry to be stuck here. You knew that need such a long time to write you you you don't have to like to shower me with you know what days are on national news nonstop.

Nowadays I feel like I'm already there. We talked about this yesterday. Did he and I meet all that really highlights is that there's not that much to talk about tell me at summer during football.

Without telling me exactly like a good alright so it's also national lazy person – I like being lazy. This doesn't sound like people being lazy so badly.

People make an average of 122 decisions a day or every eight minutes.

Another way to put in perspective.

Interesting. I'm trying to think what decisions I've made today, and they're counting this Paul I say is counting things like what to watch on TV like to eat, what to wear, probably leather to make that turn or go this direction. You know what people need to make better decisions when it comes to twitter because I've now decision-maker voice sometimes that decision should be just the logoff, exactly, that would also be a decision and that's fine national lazy person day. I'm surprised that national lazy person day actually has a date for some people it's every day just just went national lazy person day be my right and they don't make decision not hundred 22 of onset is going to just accept okay will and you can chime in as a Mets fan love the Mets right absolutely irate. Apparently fans are already comparing Matt Vogel back to the modern version of Babe Ruth's decision well made it other than it being inaccurate yesterday too soon, but it seemed entirely inaccurate.

I think that talking about Babe Ruth when at the end of his career when Babe Ruth was low-fat, but to me is that he's like refrigerator Perry yet.

He's not his enemies. The Senators that an amazing hitter, a new he doesn't pitch like show Tony is actually Babe Ruth because he did something I believe yesterday that only Babe Ruth has done which is pitch a certain amount of innings in a game strike and whatever and it hit a home run. So Tony is actually Babe Ruth. No men. Vogel Bock is not you're not one of those dance these nose tackle exactly what I did see a comparison of the pictures and I'm like okay I can see maybe a resemblance.

Their ability comes up just a end of his career with Babe Ruth kind of portly. He was just big back in the day. Okay. And last, now we all know that Aaron Rodgers might be a plant person arguably a person meeting planting your house keep 50. We have plants they're not mine. My wife has some orchids, which have to be watered everywhere. While we have a little bit of a tomato and a cucumber garden outside so. But those are all my wife's hobbies. I have can't remember the last time I water the plants yeah but I'm not. I don't I don't when I have had them I don't kill them right so I used to have a little garden, but I don't have one of those right now. I know well that there is apparently a pull out there asking people if their plant people I love plants. I don't kill them fast, sometimes at the gradual thing, but only 33% of people actually keep plan to live the rest of them don't even dabble in it.

So currently right now the fun fact I have watermelons in my driveway in the light. Oh yes, and I like to garden every now and again but tears don't allow that. Yeah it's a little experiment in watermelon in your driveway sadly cute that I'm like okay and I can surrounded by cars and things like that her tears won't eat them right.

It's working self. I'll have to show you a picture okay like a grown watermelon pumpkins all grow the same type like cucumbers also grow that way yeah going to vine. They just gonna spread out everything and they go crazy and go everywhere.

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