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Former ECU football coach Steve Logan

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August 25, 2022 4:10 pm

Former ECU football coach Steve Logan

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August 25, 2022 4:10 pm

Former ECU football coach Steve Logan joined the show to talk all things football, including Carolina Panthers QB Baker Mayfield, Green Bay Packers QB Aaron Rodgers, and Kansas City Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes. Logan also talks about how instability at coaching can ruin a young QB's career before it even gets started.

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Have financial capital financial. This is the gold shell still getting used to the TV screen TV cameras and hear me out, saying my hand gestures, talking with my hands.

Looks like that I am like signing people okay help them understand what I'm saying. I don't know sign language, but if you would like to pick fun of me do so on twitter at Dr. Graham radio and WR Yale sportsman.com you can watch the after mentioned video stream Steve Logan to join us in 15 minutes. Former NFL quarterbacks coach.

He was once Matt Ryan's quarterbacks coach and offense of coordinator of Aleve at Boston College. Most commonly known. The last East Carolina coaching legend will be here in 15 minutes will ask about Baker Mayfield and Aaron Rodgers many other things and that should be a lot of fun. But right now it's time to get hit in the face with some sound.

We run into together the wall of sound. The wall of sound is a function of this there is no doubt can we get started with yes fax specifically North Carolina's new starter away it again. Carolinas first quarterback to run out on the field Saturday night as background would like to put it. Drake met the quarterback will be on the field when the game starts for the office.

That guy yeah got the starter though attempts the guys give you a feel when they start. I get why Mac says it that way worried you might lose to Colby Criswell, Steve Logan have to be at deal so much with the transfer portal but will ask about that sentiment shortly, but this was Mac on how Drake may has progressed at practice since being named the not starter but the guy runs out of the field first with the office yesterday was good. I thought it was great today and give Jacoby credit is been great both days is gone back to work is completed, the understands that the is a snap away from being the guy a bit about their Hayes is responded to that, really well. You never know people don't respond to adversity. I understand why Drake may would be the more appealing option to start at quarterback at the start of camp.

Honestly Dennis, I thought Jacoby would've been the better option. Jacoby excuse me see you he was steadier had pretty good weapons.

You just needed a quarterback who wasn't gonna mess it up who was going to be steadier lead you down the field don't turn over the football, put it in the right place had been here a year longer than Drake yes 10 starts to his name, already including 10 appearances excuse me started last year the Wofford finale that Sam Howe wasn't able to play in so I thought he was the better option. At the start of camp, but during camp North Carolina lost British Brooks for the season.

Antoine green was the second-leading wide receiver going into the year to Josh Downs. Not a lot of that the deposition, so when you lose him for the first month, at least you might need your quarterback to be more of a playmaker and Drake as I understand it is more of a dual threat guy more of a higher upside.

He was in Alabama commit top 50 fiber crew according to 24 seven. Criswell was in the mid to hundreds when he came out of high school. If it's close go with the younger guy and Drake made younger than Criswell is. So I think they made the right choice. Mac made the right choice going with Drake may start things off on Saturday night and selfishly from the media perspective from the storytelling perspective it's a bleeping Tar Heel fairytale but this guy is going to be playing quarterback at the same school as his brother sings cool is it that that's a really cool deal that will get follow when the Tar Heels play Florida A&M next up Krista McCaffrey protecting Ben Mac a dues offense of secrets like it's the nuclear codes what's listening put the ball in the end zone is obviously the goal moving the ball north get first downs heat he has so much knowledge in so many different areas and I think being able to learn not just what your job is. But why your job is what it is ultimately equally as important, and I think just being able to play fast. It's a scheme it's meant to work and so it's up to us to execute so is along answering to gain information about the I'm excited about it man, I can't find my pen and here I was looking to write down all the clichés yeah that McCaffrey had in that clip you misplace your bingo guard that it was performance art yeah McCaffrey you know every offense is built. The work or drive us to score. We just want to score a touchdown move north, as it were trying to do here first downs like that might've been the Olympic metal holder gold-medal Olympic Winter for most useless sound might be an yet the dismount at the end.

I said a lot of words without actually saying anything at all. I love that we acknowledge that though I appreciated well that's pretty much whatever soundbite we get generally is what is a realistic expectation for the Panthers offense realistic because last year they were 29th. Granted Job lady didn't coordinate final month of the season he was alive-in terms of scoring office scoring and you also had McCaffrey was her all of last year pretty much just like he missed 13 games in 2020 as well. They were 24th in scoring offense and 2020. I think with elevated quarterback by and a lot of investment in the outline you bring in Austin Corbett from the defending champion Ramsey bring in pickier quanto a top 10 picket left tackle you hope to get more out of McCaffrey. It's hard to imagine you get less fair to expect the top 20 offense top 20.

I think it's what you get there and that's what the Panthers need. They are not asking Baker Mayfield to put the team on the back dough there asking Baker like what we were talking about with Carol. I just don't mess it up. Don't mess it up. That's what they need from the offense.

That's what they need from their quarterback speaking a Baker Mayfield.

He's not the only new Carolina Panthers became the Charlotte by way of Cleveland sure to get where in the number 17 had that touchdown catch in the preseason game that Donald through your mother when he got crushed he got beat on that plane that beautiful touch pass short. Higgins got that. He seems like a good ad and he helped us out a little bit in trying to get to know Baker Mayfield better back is really good at calling the and I hate to say that right now but you know what you give me a hard time with the other would be on the game in he's pretty good. I called the is you. You had some time to think about this for me NHL 09 get me on the sticks take you out no mercy, no quarter.

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I got an N64 in my trunk right now I've got to see what I was doing a radio I'm on in the triad afternoons per WSJ asked Draco and I was talking about my wedding leading up to it in June and someone asked me hey what you want to do in your wedding day. Most people go out and shoot guns or bachelor not in the and in and out like on your wedding day on your actual wedding day and people shoot guns. People play golf. Not really my cup of tea in either regards. I just want to be nostalgic.

I've had a game console a while as a kid I used to play in 64 so I like to play goldeneye one play super smash brothers.

So then the next day random stranger just comes by the studio drops often and 64 with games nice so I've asked this guy and you want your insectivore back had heard from Scott and 64 now I know my wedding day crushing people. Goldeneye will games yet super smash brothers check Mario kart naturally I don't think we have Mario party got the wrestling game from way back when WCW there's a few I forget which one. Specifically, it was MVP baseball right there it's it's a nice little crop shut off logos, games to figure out whether or not this do what some back. He had a clearly I'll see what when the statute of limitations passes figure that out the picture me on my wedding that fire it up knives only goldeneye's. That's what were doing and all all my groomsmen allowed for me to be Yoshi because when I play Mario cart super smash I'm Yoshi, no questions asked. I respect that.

Pretty good. Our next guest got me into the blues. Probably a lot of people in Steve Logan ECU coaching legend. I would say also a legend of NFL Europe circles NFL that is well on coaching staff. Some college to was helping Matt Ryan out Once upon a time back in BC what type of music. If you been listening to lately coach what you been drinking on as well. Well I'm still stuck in the blues with the what I hear, ZZ Top one, went to watch them in Durham really given us to start the show we walked up and he said same three chords bring three guys and off.

The show went so that's as far as ever doubt the records. When's the last time you went to a show. It's been a while, you know, since all the covert insanity started. I refused to play not just move down here to the beach and ended like nothing ever happened so there is lack Steve Logan joining us here on the atom gold shell. I wanted to talk to you about a couple of quarterbacks.

Baker Mayfield is now the newest Carolina Panthers. He seems like the type of guy that you would've loved the coach back in college. Maybe I'm wrong on that. What are your thoughts on Baker will heat you know he plays with a chip on his shoulder which is so you know that's a good thing and it's a good thing particular for quarterback to be able to have a combative type personality because you're gonna take a lot of slings, slings and arrows of used to point out the young man that I worked with the you know, we might have us. Let's say we have 6768 snaps in the football game offensively and things rocking along your plane a good football game and you throw one interception, and you know so suddenly you know that the just the 1 Negative Pl. you can the impact of an entire football game and in a season and so you look back and so will for 66 maps.

You know what I was doing my job. I did it well and then all of a sudden you have a catastrophic interception you can turn everything around you got to be tough and you gotta be thick-skinned to play the position of quarterback and I think Baker's got a lot of that any you know he he's a he's a very interesting story and you know he went through a rough rough time professionally in Cleveland with Udo in 19 different office coordinators and you know whatever he went through up there that's never a healthy start after seeing that dynamic destroy some potentially good quarterbacks careers in the NFL. That's the part I can't really get past it. It's the part that I really it just doesn't compute with me when people are dogging Baker talking about his days in Cleveland as if he didn't do enough.

I remember the day that Baker became officially a panther. I asked him when you got there.

The Browns won one game in their previous two years combined two years ago. Not only did you go to the playoffs.

You went to Pittsburgh in one by a lot. How surprised were you that that happened to you and he said shocked is an understatement. I can imagine. I don't think that can be emphasized enough. And I wonder if you feel the same way.

How this dude was discarded.

The way that he was after taking team to the playoffs.

Just a few years ago. Well, that's just NFL football. I mean, I spent 10 years you know fiddle around and pro football and the expectations are so high with every player, every unit every coach every team and the reality and the expectations rarely rarely meet and the owners, general managers, it starts with the owners they put so much pressure downward on the general managers with the general managers alike and hairtrigger decisions concerning talent coaches game almost like you're talking about that effect. Quarterback and like say I think Baker had three different office coordinators is right in his first three years at Cleveland and you know I work personally with the young man who I'm convinced that his career destroyed, and that was Blaine Gabbert and Bley. I was Blaine's seventh quarterback coach at San Francisco and Blaine is an enormously talented brilliant bright high analyte guy and I had a great time working with him and had success with blank and heat he got to explain the second half of the season. He really elevated our football team.

During the time he played for something he started a game for me and one for an you know, but you know we were all fired. The next year Bob Loblaw yelled because all but I just know in debriefing, Blaine 747 so you get seven different languages suffered seven different approaches to playing the position. Seven different play callers and nobody can survive that.

I mean you not to find a successful quarterback in the NFL. That's got that on their resume because it destroys confidence in it just erodes no matter how much ability give God 80 erodes the ability to play the game with confidence without fear of being pulled or will you know all the other things to go to the negativity that can go with the you know always being blamed one. In fact, your your victim and a lot of Steve Logan with this your on the uncle Joe, my name's Josh Graham filling in for AG and you talking about how it's a different language.

When you get a new quarterback coach or a new offense of coordinator had me thinking about the preseason game we have to night where Green Bay is playing Kansas City in some minds for both teams. They might be Super Bowl contenders, but Green Bay is losing Daniel Hackett. They lost Nathaniel Hackett who is now the head coach in Denver for Russell Wilson and Dante Adams is no longer an Green Bay's now in Vegas and Kansas City. There, try to replace a unique player, not a rare player a unique player entirely kill. Who do you have more concerns about going into this year.

Aaron Rodgers Packers are Patrick Mahon's as chiefs well in both situations, you got quarterback that's entrenched and I promise you it wouldn't. It doesn't matter who Aaron Rodgers office coordinator is at this point nobody's gonna walk in the room and present a new language to Aaron Rodgers.

They're going to use the language of he's been familiar with his entire career and that's the way that works in the NFL to structural you know she's got the leverage so you know those kind of things that are going on and he read. He shot a change language in yellow. Everything stable around Patrick Mahon's so you know there's there's not too many hiccups in that arena blessing for you. So Mack Brown was trying to do some verbal gymnastics earlier in the week when naming a quarterback got to guys because of coated that arrived your apartment have the same number of years of eligibility remaining in Jacoby Criswell and Drake may Drake may name the starter but Macca sank you will use the word starter it's he's the guy was gonna run out there first and play quarterback and he's doing a song and dance of no great lie. We sat him out for a year and Julius peppers we set him out and I'm listening to it and I'm thinking that sounds like backgrounds trying to talk directly through the TD lens to Jacoby Criswell to convince him to stick around because you want debt quarterback and you don't want to lose guys out due to the transfer portal but the problem I find is unlike Trey Bly or Julius peppers or whomever you talk about your wide receiver like Josh Downs. You can only have one quarterback on the field one time and as long as Drake may is playing Jacoby Criswell isn't so if you're Mack Brown what are you doing to try and keep that quarterback death or keep Criswell engaged enough that he's not looking somewhere else. Well that's a whole new yacht.

I thank God I'm not coach in college football with the landscape that's been created within IL and transfer portal small letters of monkey business, but and and I'm not. I'm not against believing the player should been getting paid a long time ago, but that's a whole other story but the transfer portal is a whole different deal. But you know when you know the old adage is true.

When you get when you're not quite sure who the starter is it indicative you probably don't have one. And you know throughout camp. Neither one of those young men moved the team the way you would hope the team would move and now you know okay and this is a Logan-ism. I was asked. Once upon a time I live. I have been asked many many times. You know how to you.

How do you evaluate a quarterback will my simple answer was and always will be.

This plays work that fits okay. I don't care if it's Bugs Bunny's that quarterback if the plays work. That's my starter if I got a kid in there that runs for foreign throws bullet and all this other attributes that scouts like to harp on the plays don't work. That's not my starter, and you know it's just that simple. So in camp what you want to see is the plays work in the team move and go across the goal line that your starter and if that's not happening with the young man definitively. Neither one of those guys right now I need one of those guys is really what you're looking for. They may develop into that through the season, but it sounds like they haven't had a definitive answer in camp Bugs Bunny three started rivals. I think the last day I saw Steve Logan on the way out what you expect to be a bigger zoo next week in Greenville America with NC State coming to town or boom with Carolina coming in for the first time ever that yeah that's going to be a tossup be a lot of fun for both those communities and the real you know that's where it should be. I'm in the big boys can get on the bus, and travel like a gas can ever down and I think that's healthy.

And no, I think it will be a couple of good football games. I really think it's healthy for everybody to do something good to hear your voice. Steve think so much for doing this and enjoy the beach going to do that I appreciate: no doubt that Steve Logan legend joining us here on the atom gold shell is good to be a zoo next weekend. I know Dennis and Chris Lee are to be down in Greenville America or NC State and TCU alma mater.

I'm to be in Boone, North Carolina and Appalachian State where we headed today for FL city tour Orchard Park, New York. All I hear Orchard Park's lovely this time a year. That's next. If you don't think trash talk happens in radio wrong.

This is the atom gold shell filling in for an iron over the first time Agee asked me to fill in a few months ago I had somebody else post the show that I do after this one.

Normally I do afternoons for WSJ us out in the triad and Adam and a handful of other host here in the Triangle told me your Bill Willis your softy your soft yeah rub some radio got on it and do six hours of radio do your own show to so that's what I'm in the tribe do today and tomorrow. Rub some dirt on it. Yeah, here's the thing. They haven't done that themselves. They haven't. So you're telling me that this was a trap in the hat pretty much a few hours from now I'm just going to be about to pass out just running on fumes. Basically, find out tomorrow. Joe Knapp this weekend to get to know your site for Nebraska Northwestern kick it off in Ireland 1230.

I'm curious for that game.

I'm curious as for the spectacle of its of it being played in Ireland and summarize and tomorrow you got peppers bills. 7 o'clock and wanted to know today that Bell city. We are visiting, not Buffalo but the city that the bills player, Orchard Park, New York.

That's right, Orchard Park, you are not giving a little bit of a visual of Orchard Park where it's located so close very western part of of of New York right there next to Niagara and Orchard Park is essentially what Terry is to route is to buffaloes what Garner and Carrie is Raleigh yeah this is a bordering town right there in the south southern side. That's Leominster Winston-Salem Winterville to Greenville like Dallas forget to drive all the way to Arlington was long but it's outside but the town of Orchard Park borders Buffalo will say this is New York's team because it's going to actually placing through Giants and Jets plan that life in Jersey.

Yes, we've actually visited East Rutherford, New Jersey twice already.

Lovely place. I'm sure we've told you everything about it, along with work. I say that weird work and work that I said sure as to joy as you know and work is from northern New Jersey. He would know I still going to bed with us in the roundtable tomorrow. Maybe we'll get that. So again, because of Orchard Park is not a very big place is not entirely a whole lot, Orchard Park, New York. Now you don't get outdoors of the Birdsong Park nature trail sounds great, especially this time of your church. Wonderful, probably human, is that the legs also the eternal flame falls, allowing phone call eternal flame great yeah I'm in Buffalo or in Orchard Park in this area. I'm indoors and I'm just I'm I'm visiting every wing joint terrorism okay will you get that allowing their wings their wings we had.

She might enjoy little golf every once in a while still golf course you know it's not snowing swings in action when snow when I joke that I hear it's lovely this time you're actually sure it's lovely this time of year you all my dad when is the sweet spot to visit visit Orchard Park since you're coming our way here, courtesy of the Orchard Park Chamber of Commerce okay all guessing you out here rowels December wary when the bills are playing like they're going to be playing at this time you by the way, there are some stable things that you need to do while you're in Western New York as a whole, but especially Orchard Park, New York not only digital wings turning Duff's famous wings of Orchard Park is the place to go to but you also get a jump off the top of an RV through table. You just have to do it's a rite of passage to be in Orchard Park while you're on fire.

Yeah the tables on fire the whole deal has to while you're eating away if you didn't do that. Did you actually visit Orchard Park that said experience Orchard Park but this reminds me of the greatest nonfootball great that Dave Clawson's ever had at wake forest. Okay he is from Western New York and he gets really upset when people refer to every type of wing as Buffalo wings.

He hates that there is only one type of Buffalo wing, and that's Frank's red hot sauce that's a Buffalo wing change the nomenclature for casual pay. I'm buying some wings that whatever restaurant to hot wings. That's what you should call them according to Dave Clawson hot wings. Not Buffalo wings gets pretty mad when people just referred wings that are not as Buffalo wings. If the sauce is not Frank's top okay I knew Buffalo wings were like to see specific type of light that had to be Frank's time because there from Buffalo.

That's where they were created. Yeah that that genre. If you will, and Frank's red hot was the sauce that they used on those wings. If you want a real Buffalo wing staff. Frank's red hot.

According to Dave Clawson if you're eating another type of wing that has hot sauce that it doesn't have Frank's red hot but it's not a Buffalo wing. It's a hot wing. I think that's a fair compromise were just being better. It's like I think our society is evolving. Dennis way that we refer to things we can look at that photo of Lynn Dawson who passed away yesterday 50 years ago 55 years ago playing in Super Bowl I and smoking a heater at half time and full uniform and say we've evolved from the time we thought cigarettes just cooled down your mouth and lungs. That's what was happening – nothing medically bad about this at all. We've evolved right in this. In this case I think we've evolved as a society where we lazily loosely referred every hot wing is a Buffalo wing just got a call them wings. I'm excited to know there's Buffalo sauce will use Buffalo sauce but has to have Frank's red hijacked things though this is hopeless. Part of that part of her visiting Orchard Park trying to tell people what to do, like what I want to come to the Triangle area of North Carolina and say all I love Raleigh-Durham were trying to help you. I like the airport visit Appalachian State, but I love Eastern Carolina now just trying to help you out try to help you out.

By the way Dino love Eastern Carolina Ruffin McNeill Gaston tomorrow shall and I speak in way coaches Steve Forbes on the morrow shall hold all over the place all the top places to go to get wings they mention it at Duff's place getting her to swallow off the wall sandwich company on the wall, sandwich companies, the go to eatery out there in order to point myself clunky linking to some wings and choir out there as well but the guy little bit everything they've got. I was wings that have wings. I'm curious – should you have a sandwich call or protocol the bills Mafia you want to know what's in this bills Mafia ground state Glenn Patty sharp cheddar thick cut bacon bacon, blue cheese or crumbly blue Buffalo chicken wing dip chicken fingers tossed about. While I love Buffalo sauce.

I love hot stuff.

I if if somebody here, let's say in Raleigh in the Triangle or anywhere else in the state is welcome to do that once to create a Dennis Kok Dennis Cox types of people were type of food let's say in this case, like a burger, bills, Mafia what's on that burger. Oh, it's simple when it comes to be named after you like. This is the Dennis Scott yeah but I wanted something I know what I would eat. I had a pizza named after me and Clinton's place called hi guys pizza give him a shout called the grand slam has Buffalo sauce on it and some chicken and bacon pieces on top grand slam.

So if I were doing to places like that. For example like a mod pizza or something, we kinda can customize it. This is the band rookie burger putting on her own band rookie burger but also as Twitter handle so simple it comes to me like a cheeseburger got have cheese. I will go to Patty's to Patty's cheddar cheese, bacon not legible after I know is that I'm not. I don't offer a lot of stuff I got.

I know there's some restaurant owners were the same. Help us we will come up with something doing the marketing team a favor to China figure something out. Maybe AG could think of something. He seems like he is actually no I actually do a sandwich one for you. This part fire smoked paprika chicken yeah with cheddar cheese. It's the via Panini smoke Caprica chicken cheddar cheese spinach for some melt pending. Love it. Yeah that is written, the Dennis, Sam right so that talking speaking of food, doughnut places out for all of our locations.

There is no true doughnut location in Orchard Park, New York. I'm not big on all that's on you not like there's some places currently in West Seneca Buffalo we can't go there is not in Orchard Park so the only place you go to to get doughnuts really Tim Hortons is down here that I don't get yourself a Tim Horton's start talking to McCain talking with some Northerners yesterday at Tim Horton's's response six Eastern conference finals Ryan Miller. We got to jockstrap is taking you to the playoffs that out loud all how many how many cops did join the name of Brian Campbell win for you sabers that jersey design.

They had circuit 2006, with hideous yeah I was pretty off the red and black with his back. Yeah, house smears, loss, and that only got part but like tomorrow we are going to the 49ers, Santa Clara, California not Cisco) for the Panthers. I've never played Super Bowl there. Everybody was so excited I can't wait to hang out in San Francisco, although European Santa Clara is a big difference in closer to San Jose by late tomorrow I see Monday total of this Monday vernacular to Landover, Maryland, home of the commanders that stadium many a time and place stinks. Hey, what's rewind things really quickly before we get out of here.

I really was trying to think of the list most beloved Tar Heels of the last 22 years since the turn-of-the-century how many guys do you name before you get to Luke Bay and Allie tweeted the show saying Theo Joel Barry Hansbrough Danny Green Marcus page, those of the five largest specifically basketball out of the dirty football players they put up with. Maybe, maybe, but I Luke Bay, probably a little bit more block so look may beloved Tar Heels fairytale. His brother is going to be started not just on the back that Carolina so this was a look may joining us earlier in the show, talking about the family dynamic mom mom you about it from there. Pretty cool, you're in the game, and three, see things out there. Once treated you well I mean it's it's it's it's a game and he knows that the day like you love them. For some matter what will deftly be exciting time in the I'm sure there will be something to drink a day working to help softball team. When only Draco got a lot of guys out there that are trying to do the best they can, and me know if you plan because of the high level I just experienced the mean even some games will not really the opponent is up to level me very easy account of overlook, and I think that's something that you learn how to manage handle excited to see how Drake and those guys do personal games with the second week at really really good team and I think to be good test for third year appreciate the time from the bank at the beginning he was talking about whether his mom would be more stress for his dad and he said mom it's always the right answer, but I don't know when it's your son not playing basketball, but playing the sport that you played Carolina the position that you played in the position you coached in the play, which marketed Mark Mae did for Drake make it. It's just a really cool story all around that. I look forward to watching but will see on Saturday night. How many times they're gonna pander the stands and you get the ACC network crew talking about their mom and dad here was their reaction after the touchdown. It was their reaction after the pack there was no Pearson Luke may highlight that's my big thing. How many Luke may highlights really good during the broadcast. My Apple watch just told me I need to stand up. Okay you can do that I need to do that, TV here pass along this note on the way out because it's really super cool. A few years ago, Chris Paul announced that he was good to donate a ton of money to wait for us to get them a new locker room and next Thursday. The data wait for some of the seasons a week from now. He's good to be in town as he cuts the ribbon on that all cool later that night though this is pretty cool. Later in that day, I should say they're announcing that West Forsyth high school where he went to school is going to have the gym named in his honor at school can imagine a cooler day than that right you're going back to where your high school that was just so happens to be right where your college is that and the college's name in the locker room for you and now your high school gym is named after you and you get to watch her alma mater playing football as they are top 25 ring team for just the second time ever in there to blow out the MI when you're talking about. Pretty cool day. Lord I hope I have a day that is cool is that one day is awesome getting back to married earlier this year I got a text from her my entire lady is sitting here at the beach watching you see, I don't know if you got the part where I said this might be the most exciting day of the year for me. Second most exciting that I just let my people.

That's fair. But like I said my dad was elicited to the station when I visited with him this morning he had gotten out of bed.

We learned he was alleging the deck yeah yes what was the other wrestler Paul Gordon and what what and talking about folks in Greenville, 94, three again where I was for a few years. My folks in the dry like a special day Cox special. I tell you what special specialist Chris Paul this day that special but pretty special. Nonetheless, what if you could ask one question is we only have time for it in regards because were rewinding the show today about the revelation of my dad being close friends with macho man plan. Yeah that would be most interesting about that is how they meet, what what led them to striking up a friendship. All you what you worked at airports now defunct Piedmont Airlines. Back then, like if you were to the airport.

You see these people as they walk often you want to be friends with the folks who work at the airport because maybe drive you around places. If you're in town to go places and somehow my dad and macho man to sit it off. He also told me that he would run to iron chic. Sometimes you have to and nightly rate reading like Iranian magazines and things of that nature. That's not a put on it all. I believe that I walking on the planes and stuff like that. He'd meet Andre the giant and the like. Who else when he was hanging out with savage who else was I had my phone I say this for tomorrow. Now let me check my phone are quick to exit were Mr. wonderful news that Paul Orndorff okay okay so yeah him and leaving Lenny Paparella.

My dad they were the get together. Oh what's this one here he send me pictures of other wrestlers that I don't recognize where to dive in and we might have a surprise visit. Yeah on the shelf tomorrow Robin McNeil. I had of his first return to Greenville for football game in eight days eight or nine days and Steve Forbes post your road trip hanging out with eyes from the Dixon I we got Julio and Patrick Johnson the roundtable that's cool. This Cox is most excited to talk to my dad.

Yeah, just wanted to call and sometimes let me know. Note to want to hear from Scott Grant.

Apparently the entire state of North Carolina.

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