How should ECU Football feel after loss to NC State Football?

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Which of the four fan bases is the happiest after week one if you will to noon game.

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Each one giving the real answer is none of them because the ECU and Apple flaws. But if I was going to answer that question, I would gotta say that I believe ECU should be the happiest I mission a ton defensively and I think the the immediate future is pretty bright for this team will talk to Patrick Johnson about that in about 15 minutes. Right now it's time for the walls are the low sound is a function of this all right sir, shall we wall of sound.

This sucker up, let's start and end up up with the rock in Boone, North Carolina score 63 and wins bike to MacBook Mack Brown after the game in the big 12. We have a lot of high-scoring games with give Appalachian State credit number one had a tremendous atmosphere. We kept scoring in a position where we could've put a boy but that's why we haven't won games on the road we didn't put a boy has some foolish penalties and ran over and celebrated from the crowd against the stupid stuff immature stuff we gotta grow up and change their but this time fall back came back and did the things that we needed to do with an MS, on both sides of the ball is this top of the day as we had on defense. 22 point place to win the game and I don't know that I've ever seen two quarterbacks playing a better so fans and TV sure got their money's worth. I mean it was it was like pinball game scoring like I'm going take umbrage one just with one thing the main didn't stop to point to two-point conversion, you stop one chase Bryce missed a wide open receiver on the other not even going to say that was a game later because 31 seconds left wants to stop UNC from midfield arrange yeah I honestly on Twitter or Fred Mikesell are Dave does TV in Charlotte puts out looks like the team that scores last is going to win this game and I'm like not so fast because that didn't get that two-point conversion. Actually, technically they didn't score that will they get score last loss yeah they scored left but lost all his thing as well that only were to tie the game will guarantee a minute. The second cycle in your first one puts them up in Carolinas 31 seconds away, needing to feel but holy cow what a game Sean Clark abstained head coach well mean he was excited about the ways team battled back, oh great football game while Bill plays games essay games ever so here blows my mind but very proper football team set up here for €61.664 offense guys never quit were down 20 on the fourth and will have a hell of a football team will get some things fixed on defense.

We have to have a chance to win our goals. When the opener that it happened.

Barness goes the something championship solo over Texas A&M next week and our guys are hurt, but were disappointed but not discourage the future is bright, Appalachian State do not describe anything he said to be tough to win 10 games now, but that was a deathly winnable game for up and about 8 AM on on the road next week but I agree with what he said at first mean there's match and see there's no reason. I understand the reason why state and Carolina don't want to play these games every year I get it. Yeah, but and I don't I don't not in favor of it being mandated like it has been in the past, but those games those two games are awesome for college football. There also for high school football in the state of North Carolina. They are incredible games. I know state and at starting a series in a few years. We need more of those games.

It should be. I would love to see these maybe not in week one.

Maybe there in week two, either week three. I don't know but I would love to see these games as no nonconference staples between these two. These four institutions and I'll just throw this out. It when we get to an expanded playoff and theoretically weeks we can get more good nonconference match ups because again air quotes there and theoretically. It's not supposed to damage you to lose a good nonconference game but we all know that schools won't do that do that if that gives you more freedom to schedule these games on an annual basis, then do it. So one year its app and ECU were at, and Carolina the next year Tappan state and no flip of the other way with ECU and Carolina and see that you have these games every year because it's great for football in the state. All right to the game. It happened in Greenville.

Dave Doran on would just talk about the physical part of the game state had to gold to go situations and gotten no points out of the goal line stand was probably for the going series is back to back were the most frustrating things to me felt like we had to place called that what is for all was stopped by the official on both of them, which was kind of weird in its own right, with neither of them being a penalty so we had run nine plays but was really seven place. You know those you guys know football you brought you really don't have that many don't really get that many people down there that close to one scrimmage. So that's an area we gotta grow and learn from be better. I think the last part of that was kind of an excuse but I had no problem with the first goal to go situation you tried. Yet you ran it got close he tried to throw it incomplete and then Jordan Houston for multiple release you tried something different. My bigger problem was with the second you were first and goal at the one you gained nothing. Nothing. Nothing, and then lost or maybe you lost a yard one of those split plays and we had driven back with any preamble, at some point we gotta blow whistles and stop that because that's dangerous then it really was dangerous but state basically ran simply four times I just I don't understand that I understand going forward.

I don't understand being so vanilla. But that's just that's just the way I'm looking at right Mike Houston, East Carolina head coach on I me I got a feel for your players, especially her kick.

He missed two kicks. Mike used her shirt had her chances under should of been that just told players in there that they usually inspire me with the way they fight their tenacity to physicality their intensity. He dominated the number 13 team the country.

In the second half shall be game regulation thing that I did a lot of work for them other than just the kit with just fine us. It's the program's growth. The work has been invested. These players did you say anything going down for after game.

I just grabbed and pulled him aside and just a stone caliphate define him most perfect yet X-Acto is about to kick towards last year. He's gotta get beyond this and have faith that he will look tough, tough way to end the game for the kid. He pulled the badly pulled the extra point and then he badly pushed the field goal to win it from the left – all the way wide of the right upright and I know you said you were right there for the extra point that he just missed it meant to him to miss it that badly left that sets a bad poll but yes if you have been that close range via he was about a length of a foot wide of the goal but don't that at suck for the Pirates, but at me on I'm looking at it is a bigger picture. I think they they had pretty good account of themselves, especially defensively, and I think that's where a lot of worries were accepted course our friendship. Patterson knew it all along. I 11: one more quick thing Greg Sankey, Commissioner of the Southeastern conference is on with Paul fine bomb to answer the question why won't there be expansion of the college football playoff as early as 2024.

Although I don't think we should completely rule it out. But here Sankey well histories a bit of a Garduno week we could make a decision per year actually the exact same format that was approved Friday as you walk through issues will see I was, not surprised. We did not last September or November. I did expect the ability for us to work through and collaborate to solve problem that didn't take place, so any of my my caution or caring over predicting changes. I thought we'd have a direction then we didn't we have more of a direction now by some of those same lingering issues will be front of us. I I do appreciate the not-so-subtle subtle shade thrown by Sankey basically approving the exact same format that they declined a year ago because he knows and everybody should know that that that was simply a move out of pettiness by the Big Ten. The ACC in the pack 12 thought was the alliance wasn't about nothing other than the SEC, you're not gonna run us what it was.

And that's fair.

I get it I get but who knows when they'll ask when the expansion will actually take place on Isley Brothers today another album, the more we haven't decided yet. I decide in whatever you need another album it'll be a mood thing. Speaking of mood things depend depending upon your high state of mind level of tolerance level of patients. It was, it would be easy to be really mad that East Carolina lost to NC State in a game where they were the better team. The second half missed an extra point tie in field goal to win but from my perspective. So much was shown especially in the second half.

But once the turnover stopped. What's the bad punting stop that.

I know that I wouldn't be really encouraged. Let's find out what Patrick Johnson from 94 through the game. Greenville what he thinks about 2120 in favor of NC stated that he Ficklin Stadium on Saturday. Which way do you look at it sir well. All you have to be encouraged out of it since week one right so I get a lot of this will be played at Old Dominion team that's coming feeling really really good about yourself. On Saturday night and then go Campbell's good be loaded for bear couple weeks and then you start the conference and so you never really have no choice. You can still make some hay in these first three weeks at home next three weeks at home certainly Saturday that times I think NC State look as good as advertised and in the second half. I thought it was Carolina look particularly defensively is good news and a lot of pirate fans of dissipated, they would be. I didn't think this was gonna be a double-digit gain at any stretch.

Despite what are our friends the oddsmakers for entertainment purposes only. Of course, because I just think I think is Carolyn is really good and and I and I think it's a state still has some things to work out but there can be really, really good site yard.

I tender I guess, be encouraged, but got your heart breaks for natural endeavor for you know, missing the extra point but I think the laces were in. By all accounts and extra point special-teams deal had been a little iffy all day and then you know I would call the timeout and obstinately think to myself of this. They were rushed out there seconds, and I'm thinking there's no way that they're gonna make this with nine seconds and you try to get another it's 41 yards of the no call the timeout. I so thought will this could backfire badly, but obviously did this. This is the worst part about having for me to games at noon that I needed to watch so I was trying to watch them both at the same time right right so my understanding was that NC state called timeout with EECU rushing the field goal unit onto the field with no it was roughly 20 seconds when the previous play ended got bright so I why would you call timeout.

Somebody sent me an email as it well. They had to injured players on the field and my response was well state still wouldn't of called timeout if there were to injured players right now to stop the game and then maybe state gets charged with the timeout. I'm not saying that they wouldn't have, but it didn't make any sense to ice the kicker in that situation, it makes no sense. Yeah it ends up working out and look there a lot of things from a NC state perspective because we had a big audience list and are our local network stuff that I was on the Red Sea state folks and they were lonely up all during pregame and game and post game and you know I mean the second goal light stand which issue was phenomenal tremendous.

Why not kick it there. Same thing with you state the other night when I kick it I don't know if these coaches are going with you know the analytics or what have you there. You know the averages. The chart is this instead of that, yes, yes I hate the chart charts which I hate charts by being kick it there. The games over I don't think you're wrong. Here's the might my view of it is it's probably the smarter play to take a 10 point lead. If your NC state with a little bit more than 10 minutes to go, but, and this is where this is where the chart isn't the chart probably said that I don't know what the chart said. But this is where I'm like 10 minutes to go 10 points isn't cool. That's not not astronomical is not crazy to overcome that. But I can relate away. I kinda like the aggressiveness of going forward. Now, if there are six minutes left. It's a no-brainer.

Complete no-brainer. I think it 10 minutes left, especially with as many possessions as there are in college football games like in the game in Boone with 10 minutes to go there 13 possessions left right by me this Saturday at Greenville. There were only going to be a scant few entities to use as galley of his whole mailers was separated non-throwing shoulder and a you know is much as he tried to do the running game was not sparkling. Now he had he was having a good day with CJ Johnson was excommunicated from the team in the spring for bad behavior, but is come back and be a model citizen.

I loved Isaiah wins that the Toledo traffic state receiver.

I think he's good be really really productive this year for free. See you but the running game.

I'll ask him a shot heavenly skillet would run the ball on on state better than what they did. So yeah, I get what you're saying. I have a lot of well in spots. No, I think they read it well when the second half. Yet when my hands eroded better.

I thought they rated better, which is the opposite for NC state when NC State needed to grind out some yards on the ground they could yeah I think were some bizarre playcalling on both sides at all times where it was obvious you should run the ball. There were throws on times and seemed pretty obvious you should be trying to throw they were running out, yelling. I think it's both of its week want out of you. That's what it is.

Well that's what this whole thing is in week one year's work that that's what they're definitely saying over and NC State. Look, I think Dave Doran said after the game I can apologize we been on the other side of that when we feel like we played outplayed the other team at your circumstances happen and we did when he games is not can apologize nobody's asking him to do that will surely I guy do think it's it it interesting and may be encouraging that Mike Houston didn't didn't player any moral victory card there like he was. He was disappointed and likable mean angry is not the right word, but then I guess it you should like you should want to gain yet he said as much today, and the ever never-ending quest to broadcast everything everywhere at about one morning showing wrinkles well on that show with us also and you know he he said as much. We should won the game. The things this of you and you been around long enough. How cool was that, though, that seeing it. You know the record crowd and unites it's it's it's kind of what Mike Houston envisioned when he took the job and I'll tell you this, when we were sitting there in October and Temple was breathing. He sees brains and a handful of years ago and Scotty Montgomery was doing. Lord knows what up and down the sidelines.

You know it was far cry from that because of you.

I have eight or seven or 8000 people in the stands.

If you are lucky that day and you know your 52 legit and probably could have more from what I understand maybe did have a student section in particular in their it's a cool time for easier athletics and coming off the baseball super regional which was just so fine them. You know, huge crowds there fruit for that against Texas and that momentum through the summer. Now football. It's just kind of a fun time for it.

For all of this. I'm hopeful the 6 o'clock game in Old Dominion them in there when you know maybe everybody had a good enough time understand there are some concession issues and some other ticket. I heard about all we got a deal with that today on the show with John Gilbert credit is coming on the show tonight is is going to take the other questions and I mean I've got a gazillion of them on my inbox and people are slide in my DM that even though the existed just I know just to ask your fire waiting asked these questions in the back of John Gilbert credit for sure what I'm doing and I get Mike used a lot of credit is accomplished a great deal.

You can't let this law speech next week specially get so hungry Old Dominion scheme of the old saying goes, so do you look at how it plays out.

Now they get well Virginia Tech look rotten. Let's think is exactly what Virginia Tech is been for the last over eight years. It's crazy isn't it. Is this the strangest that are just not there.

Their offense is just, I mean it makes you want to turn the chamfered. It's just that that's an they care spend money out it. It's it to me that's one of the great you could kind of pinpoint why Miami is not Miami. You can maybe pinpoint a little bit why Nebraska is not asking put Virginia Tech thing doesn't that one's, hard for me to wrap my mind.

Virginia Tech and Florida State are the two of those those things make you go why is why are these things still these things I want one more thing because you you alluded to the scene in Greenville and I'm not. I don't want to talk about the scene in Boone but same situation.

I mean, incredible atmosphere. Yeah, big ole big state paying a visit record crowds so able to watch both of them because I was actually the studio from the network so that was really cool to watch both seems so Mike my question to you is and I know from the East Carolina perspective, it's a no-brainer. Yeah. Can you understand why state or Carolina wouldn't want to make this an annual especially as were entering into an age where playoff expansion and 12 teams making the playoffs.

Tell me, Adam. Do I need to say this on your statewide network. You hear people you okay you did because they don't seem to have an appetite for Raleigh, for whatever reason, and they do not have an appetite for Chapel Hill, for whatever reason, now give NC state credit. They have scheduled last week it was announced the helmet all map Appalachian State to give all the credit for that in the world.

I I just got I think for whatever I don't Chapel Hill visual appetite for right now she's Carolina I can only speak there's a couple more years left on the signal should be annual no I think that's asking that that's a big ask but you know I I think that there probably should be some regularity that much as it pains me to roll Appalachian State in their the appellees, the Pirates pack you and see if any heck, even to a degree, you can wait for start play one another in football with what's about to happen. You gonna need look right or wrong at them.

Ticket receipts are still big part of the equation. They are agreeable but they are in the ACC. That's the thing that the ACC may be install part of their model may not be in the SEC may not be in the Big Ten and you know it obviously helps but it me that's still part of the equation and these other places of I don't get it.

I'll never really get it. Other than there's the idea doesn't mean I have saw fans post this and tweet this. There's nothing to be gained by bias playing ABC you I think Dave torn learned a lot about his team. Good, when you end up being a good wind by the end of the year Mike, my feeling on this and will let you go on this. Patrick, yes I understand it's a being of them from the recruiting aspect.

Why do we want to do that.

Give them a chance to be doesn't hurt circuit here is that unless unless we are fools and don't know better I think we can recognize that a wind by NC State over East Carolina is a good wind or overacted by the way, ECU and NC State are scheduled and 25 and 28 as well.

In fact state plays East Carolina and at the same year. I can't believe that. I hope I'm still alive in 2025.

Hope you are so so I think we get that anyway, and over East Carolina and their football culture or hat in their football culture is a good win doesn't have to be your best nonconference opponent, but it can be part of your nonconference schedule. That's my point, and I'm looking at these states.

Nonconference is to could not do before. And she states a really good night, I have no problem scheduling FCS opponent, especially if I do well but I get why they do it is any suggestion Is coming in. That's good, you can't convalesce or find me again. You just can't I understand every week you get butt heads everywhere. I know I generally get that yet again, but I mean that's a pretty deep but it needs to include ECU needs to include Appalachian State, it probably why not include Duke if you're not playing them in the Macy's and manage elected that's good to be remedied when the ACC gets rid of the Vincennes every other year.

Your plans let the people in the village have some interest for the stuff I agree. You know I what's the harm at P man on air Patrick Johnson 94 three to Gaiman Graham, the greatest shift in radio today from 5 to 6 because it's only one hour of sports talk and you know what else Adam, I don't have to lift a finger today because the people are to be talking to the 80s like I can just kick back today. Today's beautiful feet on the console paddling. I thank you very much man I'll talk to you soon see Adam you got effect big picture conversations about the way we schedule in college football and I'm the guy who argues that if you are really hell-bent on making your league better. You should you should schedule down but if we are headed into an age of an expanded playoff and there are no excuses for not playing good schedules then what's good for college football. In this state is to get the four top programs. No offense to wake or Duke get the four top programs playing each other. But I'll get on a year-to-year in your out basis.

Yeah when I talked to John Gilbert on Saturday. Chris and I state will. The reason why we asked him about that the scheduling is a feasible. Coaches want to schedule winds right that's the thing, and that they see ECU and apis threats to a winning no question that I try not to schedule them even though it might be good overall. So as we asked about what to get.

They could continue make easier the next.

That wasn't what we have to keep playing games like this. But if we win these games. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't type deal because it will then both teams did the right thing.

Yeah, they played really really well and lost yeah strategic yeah there is NFL preview to continue as we go to every NFL city. We have been to Inglewood, California.

Twice we have been to East Rutherford, New Jersey twice we've been to Vegas was III don't think I was here.

We went to Vegas I think I'm now I couldn't tell people about the M&M store and the seeing Pete Rose signing autographs outside the memorabilia store in the shops at Caesars my famous trips to Las Vegas, there's M&M store on the strip. Yes, absolutely a lot. I and stores of the coolest yeah we just walk in and there's just vats of evidence for that. Plus they are there separated by color which that's how I eat M&Ms when I do. That's actually economy not only had to be separate.

Also as well by like type II they have the project once again the ones in the peanut butter ones also separated by color.

The last time I was there that the there were regular there were peanut there were peanut butter, jalapeno, butter, and there was also dark chocolate M&M. Interesting that would be my preferred peanut butter M&Ms in an effort yet.

It's like a big Reese's pieces and that's okay.

It's also the also very good. Yes, but all the colors that you could ever want to find like 60 different colors of M&Ms all stored separately can make your own if you want to make Carolina Carolina M&Ms. You could just about a moonlight right do that you want to do a Hartford wailers M&Ms. You could just do blue and green little love a little white will suffer white in that real quick since I mention Hartford wailers starting tomorrow okay 1/25 anniversary podcast series begins. Episode one it. We are 25 years from the move from Hartford, North Carolina part. Sorry, Hartford, Connecticut to Raleigh North Carolina. Of course they spent two years in Greensboro so special 25th anniversary podcast series starts tomorrow. If you are not a follower of the canes corner podcast. You can find it whenever you get your podcast but if you find it and you click follow then it automatically shuts alright so it's it's been fun's not over yet. We got plenty of stuff. I have tons of material tons of material and still getting more every day alright let's let's go to the world shall write New Orleans but we talk about here.

First of all, obviously doing well and schedule a final spit in the river like Roy Williams has is the yet whenever there New Orleans yes do that will walk on the Riverwalk section really fun thing out there and then tossing the best part of this is a big thing you have to do is you have to go to the French French quarters awesome Bourbon Street.

It's it's an experience walking up and down for scrutinizing several have you ever had a what if it was the famous drink called all cash account number when it is hard. I don't know.

I don't remember what it's called, I had a I think I had a hand grenade.

Maybe that's what it's called dancers in a little plastic blue plastic thing and it's yes it's a hand grenade it surprises you like New Orleans smells bad to terrible smelling sitting that is also very true gross. The food is amazing. I'm getting the food here is the best part of normal. I am to get the food you also like cobblestone. Yes yes so that one of the cool things about the French quarter is yet the cobblestone streets was. It is a Jackson Square yes Jackson Square is another cool place you go to a lot of street vendors allowed to do, like tarot card readings and demand letter stuff was a really really primary card readings in voodoo. New Orleans it's it's Joe experience and it really is a lot of fun together, just the old architecture in the haven't really seen anything else like my thing and live in the United States at least not that I can recall I haven't seen anything like it. So I deftly recommend to go to the French Quarter bourbon street that that whole area. You can also much like the now having downtown Raleigh open carry, drink, yes, you have literally just Windows off 3 foot wide window readers walk up just like I'll take a drink and you just buy) is walk on French quarter no question with a drink in your hand. My favorite Popeyes on planet Earth is about a block over from Bourbon Street.

Okay great Popeyes in the morning of its original but it's up to like three in the morning. Fantastic life. There's a reason why big fan big fan finalize okay Popeyes originated out of yes it gets. But Dumbo you have to get the Cumberland yes you do mean there's so many good restaurants.

It's ridiculous here. Something to keep in mind when it comes to food in New Orleans that I didn't really realize going in my first time there was a tree Cajun seasoning like salt. Everything has Cajun seasoning on it. So for example place. I recommend going to Gus's fried chicken.

Absolutely amazing. I didn't realize that Cajun seasoning would just be, and everything even in the mac & cheese Cajun seasoning. Gus's fried chicken. I highly recommend going there to favorite spot. Also butcher the sandwich place. I got a Cuban AMI well try to remember the spot it's it's on the on the other side of I guess it's Canal Street from the French quarter. Yes, there is a sandwich spot that again I don't remember the name of the month. A lot of that is a sandwich that you can't get anywhere else and it is next level and it is this a lot of brand on it. I'm normally against a lot of red in the sandwich but just too good and get that split four ways. Many something else is. It's just that good but it's a lot to tell you the best bar in New Orleans right now but go for the jazz in New Orleans is apologizing to Watson jazz get the bands walking through literally get bands that just walk through downtown and it's raining. Lucy's retired surfers bar and restaurant try to get you and I just enough time so tomorrow the program Narragansett to join us and I might get him to talk about Lucy's I think Darren's been familiar with it because as many times as he's been to New Orleans covering the Panthers. He's probably very familiar but we met him there and we walk in and there were dollar highlights. There is one that I spent three dollars. It's wonderful that I spent more than 3000 a month I'm around you can buy off you be also.

It's generous… Exactly dollar. I live for everybody phenomenal phenomenal such an underrated highlife guy yesterday during during our wait too long fantasy football draft which I connected some people were taking the entire two minutes to figure out who we will pay the Randy with the guy you're taking was you know what, I can't say just be ready so I recommend Gus's fried chicken and amateur seasoning place. It was recommended by sorry I have not been there before.

Also, while you're there you go to Harris getting to the casino.

Valiant down yes you do get you thinking there's a casino you have to go go to the casino Adam they got slots, table games listed at the casino. That's what I now summarize some casinos will, for example, there was one West Virginia still there.

They didn't have table games table games waterproofing slot and horses. Why would I get slot machines – the worst slot machines next your favorite place. Kathy Dumont's you have to go. I mean sure it's right there on the French coordinate institution by Jackson Square at the bottom of Jackson Square yes right on the river. Their minds for okay… Did you go for the bang yeah I'm not saying that the beignets not list a funnel cake is also delicious, but that's what it's a fun café bang. Yeah, right. So right there Canal Street place on Anything yet okay right side, but I did. Kathy Dumond and it was. I enjoyed those very very good I like that a lot. Kathy beignets more of a thicker go as opposed to like you mentioned a funnel cake you like that I like both but I probably will lean towards the café being a figured it's a little bit thicker so it's more like a doughnut. It was more like Duncan personnel and is not really just know you tried to go when sports radio line is finally there was such a set up absolutely rushing to get very little primary to sign on Leaving at there's a couple of them but this one right on Royal Street as well do need to also recommend Dunham place is not account beignets. I don't know beignets of their own thing magnets on account was dumping laser. The short, everyone called I got actually place for his district donuts there's actually couple locations district doughnuts. Not only do they have doughnuts that are open till 9 o'clock at night because they do sliders and beer you get all kinds back that is my level placing excellent stuff. Also when you're around New Orleans last thing you have to listen to know about Alanna a lot of great artists but New Orleans as well. You look at some people. For example, and little Wayne juvenile Nikki ménage people who have been paid on the New Orleans hip obscene master P precedents and sucked on the wall as well.

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