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October 12, 2022 1:19 pm

FBI Offered $1 Million to Prove Trump Collusion

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October 12, 2022 1:19 pm

FBI analyst Brian Auten just admitted something shocking in the trial of Igor Danchenko. Auten told Special Counsel John Durham that the FBI essentially attempted to bribe the disgraced author of the Steele dossier - Christopher Steele - in order to continue its phony Trump-Russia collusion investigation. The offer: 1 million dollars to corroborate the evidence in his since-discredited dossier. Logan, Will, and the Sekulow team break down all the details. This and more today on Sekulow.

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This Logan Sekulow we are breaking news the FBI offered $1 million to prove from you informed and now this is what I hear from right now and a lot of years I will what is this how could this be possible after your FBI has come out and they had offered.

We found out that offered $1 million $1 million to Christopher Stilley remembering steel.ca to say hi Chris, can you prove what you put in here. Can you prove that there was collusion. The big word 2016 big word 2017 there was collusion between Russia and the trouble administration appoint the Trump campaign here will things would you break down will how this happened, how this information came to light that I think is pretty fascinating and connection to maybe your favorite first son, Presidential son, so your kid current first kids will hear about that but what what you people why this is breaking your wife breaking out right so John Durham, who was tasked with doing review back window bar was a Atty. Gen. of the whole Russia collusion investigation that is in a trial right now against Igor Dan Shane Co. he was one of the primary sources of the steel.ca and he's on trial for lying to the FBI over the course of the investigation and yesterday John Durham in a surprising move was actually questioning one of the witnesses, this witness is an FBI intelligence analyst Ryan Otten and now Auden was up there remember that name has remember Brian Otten. He was up on the stand and John Durham was asking him about the corroboration of the steel.ca in order to get the Pfizer warrant against Carter page back in 2016, just a few days to weeks before the election.

Well, it turns out, Brian Otten testified under oath on the stand that the FBI couldn't corroborate the steel.ca. They asked other intelligence agencies. If they could corroborate it, which they could not get so they offered steel, Christopher Steele, the author, I got the.ca million dollars prove the claims in his dossier to corroborate give us a little more evidence show that these are factual and will move forward because they were so adamant that they could investigate this and didn't turn out go after Pres. Trump, you said this was like some of her doing a book report may like okay is still showing us your sources will give you $1 million for that source sheet really million dollars. Just tell us where you got this information, the person may like well I can't, and then you still proceed with an investigation will proceed with what happened here yet this was not like this came up recently really separate. This was back by 16 2017 as things were still rolling out.

That's right in because they needed this corroboration to move forward with the allegations that were in the still dossier. They offer this million dollars. Christopher Steele could not provide the corroboration so we didn't get the million dollars but they still opened up the case against Carter page and got the Pfizer warrant without the corroborative evidence to shows more corruption more misdeeds at the FBI and there is actually some more tie-ins.

It will get into here in the next as more tie-ins with some people that you guys like to talk about source of those on rubble say that the ramblers make sure you stick around and what hear the next part many ties into some more current news, what's going on to make sure you take a look that I would encourage you got a minute I forgot break gives a call via phone lines open the glove people, they put in their your social media counselor greatly appreciated. Make sure you like. If you're watching this on Facebook. Make sure that thumbs up if you're watching on YouTube that thumbs-up or that + depend on your mobile app or on the webpage. All of that really helps share with your friends because you give us a call will put you on the or 1-800-684-3110 anything about this breaking news again. What 100 684-3110 while you're at it, brother Jordan Weaver brand-new podcast to start a letter a month ago, secular brothers. Podcasts available from the sale of podcast network.

It's available though, on either podcast players were discussed secular brothers.com to find all the links on tomorrow's show we're going to have on John Schneider. That's right, Bo Duke himself, Jonathan, Kim from small though about his new movie to die for excellent plan time so it's when we have John Michiko subscribed and like that again. Check on the amazing work in the ACL. Jade ACLJ.org and recruit LB joining us later in the show love to get your thoughts. Those are on hold will get you in just a little bit as you go through the process. Loud people commenting on rubble because we tease out a little bit will literally be reset just a tad, which is that the FBI can allot a list of trust radio to listen for a couple minutes of major be reset so the FBI was uncovered that when the still dossier was written there like man this stuff in here. We want to corroborate it. When Richards we also had a Christopher Steele if you can prove to us this is real. It's almost like a magic trick like a lot of those you know I like that.

If you know what's in this card I will give you $1 million and then the guy reads read minds like you could do that to me that feels the same way right you have the Chris Angel.

Anyway, when Chris Angel hates people, reminders, Angel Christmas is stealing yet I see it Instagram real have time as my favorite clips, but this feels like that like if we will give you $1 million.

If you can prove this is real. So I think for them. It wasn't like a bat was more like a all if it's the word where we have to do this like we have to enter course they come up with nothing. He can't do it and the next thing you know instead of single maybe than this investigation is fraught with lies that help continual my favorite thing about this as well is that this is the Federal Bureau of investigation and they also reached out to other intelligence agencies within our federal government or and they couldn't prove any of this it they're supposed to be the elite. The best in the world at intelligence gathering and investigating and the pride themselves on that. But when the FBI decided to go to other intelligence agencies, and they couldn't corroborate it. I had none of this data, then they go to the person who gave them lease the dossier and said look, buddy. We really need this is a million bucks if you just give us some of the sources. Just know that this is real because we could stop Donald Trump from being President. This is the insurance policy. We talked about with old Carter got Carter page with Peter Streit is not a Ceja so effectively let locators in the stillness. I'm sure pages and pages all or a lot of Italian what's happening right now is that a lot of the what is matter. This is the old news is 2016 you're talking about cresting on what seven years this point right what does that mean for now and some of the players. As we said, you may find all interesting because maybe they're still involved in some of the deeper state corruption is going on the front.

State everyone's deep stake ran a deep stately, my dearest anymore now that is a front office cream of the crop.

Yeah there there was a run in the house and let's not. Let's talk about this so be prepared. Ramblers, because I know there's that there's a name here. This could trigger you all blood. Let's hear from so this was, as I said on trial the person who revealed this was a witness that was being questioned and it was the intelligence analyst from the FBI, Brian Otten. So when I'm reading this might mean that name sounds familiar. What's it from.

While we been talking about FBI corruption around here for quite some time this year as we see in the FBI going after parents of school boards or conservatives or maybe revelations that they were squashing the information before the 2020 election about the Hunter Biden laptop. There is success.

This is from a letter dated July 25 of this year and it is from Sen. Chuck Grassley addressed to both Atty. Gen. Merrick Garland and the director of the FBI was agrarian July July 25 this year, since I cannot couple months ago right orally in mid-October.

So, so he writes this letter regarding the way that the FBI was handling the information surrounding the Hunter Biden laptop and assist first. It's been alleged that the FBI developed information in 2020, about Hunter Biden's criminal, financial and related activity. It is further alleged that in August 2020 FBI supervisory intelligence agent analyst Brian Otten that name opened an assessment which was used by FBI headquarters team to improperly discredit negative Hunter Biden information as disinformation and because the investigative activity to cease based on allegations verified and verifiable derogatory information on Hunter Biden was falsely labeled as disinformation.

So based on the report, the intelligence analyst open Brian Otten one who testified at a hearing that other information or trying to corroborate what they were paying people million dollars to try to corroborate for them. He open this assessment, which was used by the FBI to falsely discredit the information in the Hunter Biden laptop as disinformation, reason, a lot of you got flagged on social media. There is a lot of you shut down for a year and until that became truth. It is the same people. It's the same actors that are in there working on these campaigns. We are be very careful on who you're messing with your talk into because a lot of the same people that are there cause destruction and their spread more lies. We come out here. We tell you this everyday Italian secular brothers.

Podcasts are times we are to disagree with us but we tell you the truth we give you the facts at hand, and how you look at this and you can't not see the corruption is happening inside the FBI.

The insecticide of these that help politicized it's become to where there are attack specifically on former President Trump even when he was before he was the President leading into even now and how that still part of the narrative going on I received out it's been released that is involved in this and wasn't involved in the squashing of Hunter by laptop stuff which we heard honestly Mark Zuckerberg on Joe Rogan saying yeah you know, the FBI calls us of the hotels. Maybe we need a like maybe wasn't just that great for other things look out for some things come up with it twitter your complete demands it in your Facebook says that you turn down your volume are under, they say Thracian people not reach it. It's pretty fascinating.

I think that there's a lot of people who I'm sure this prove that is right well yeah does. I think there's a lot of people out there who can see through this and Milliman are our listenership is just while when you look at the two-story side-by-side. One was a false allegation against President Trump then a candidate Trump that he was colluding with Russians to defeat Hillary Clinton and they wanted that to be true so badly they were willing to offer $1 million to the writer of the report to give them more information then you fast-forward just four years. They were so wanting Donald Trump to not win that they took a laptop which came from a US source. It was at a computer shop had been dropped off. There were a lot of ways to corroborate that because was on US soil.

And what did they do, they had one of their own analyst write a report dossier. If you will to be able to be used to discredit that as what Russian disinformation Russian interference. So on one hand they're trying to prove Russian interference in the other the like. In this economy. Russian interference because how could this be possible to let it go away.

Who did they bill pay $1 million to try to research on the on the left. I think that's a big promise.

You look at this ago the million Dollar things. So while the only thing people think of the FBI is making these kind of deals. These little during the million dollar deal on the table between the source and a person yeah maybe for big big ill crime rings or something that's happening, but I really don't think of it that way until today.

I have really thought about the fact that the other out there offering just cash cold hard cash to be able to get information right on American citizens were running for President that doesn't really feel numb. What is proper, but it's something I don't know if if the audience is considered as a reality. I'd certainly haven't right you must think of like if there is a cartel boss.

Maybe the DEA deals in those kind of things to try to get people sure it at the place. It is right exactly but not just a straight payoff to a source to prove what they're saying. That just seems so wild that I mean if you if you're Chris DeLorenzo.

Good business. You can just add prove what you're telling us is another million dollars for you after the DNC and the Clinton campaign through the law firm already funded this and got paid to write the dossier. Then he was getting paid to prove it, and fortunately he was unable to prove it because it was all the eyes and get $1 million of our taxpayer money, but my goodness, let's go to photos good friend who's calling on line 1 stated Tennessee Fred welcoming on their okay you left all my all-time daughter. Thank you for writing for me. It that you have all this breaking news. You know this Far as anybody I know have any information that I hailed a cab baby I get that unacceptable.

I get that front is frustration.

Everybody I can like picture my mind.

James calmly walking out with tears. All of the evidence of why Hillary Clinton is done all these things, and by the way were doing nothing. I think a lot of people feel that way.

Truth is the only way to win it with her bare waist when we take Courtney do different things we can file freedom of information act request.

One of the big things is currently the ballot box can be voting and and that's not very far away for midterms and honesty were not that far away from General Electric and Fred two things that you can kind of take is hopeful this came out under oath at a trial, and this is the Durham investigation. So some Igor didn't think I was being held accountable for lying to the FBI but it leaves me to believe that maybe there some more out there that there is still more accountability that can happen, but also as Logan brought up the ballot box. Chuck Grassley is in the minority party in the Senate right now and Jim Jordan is in the minority party in the house in just under a month.

There is opportunity for them to potentially be the majority parties and then they have a lot more power, not just sending the letters but having hearings oversight by Congress is a very powerful tool. If the right people are able to conduct it and I think that we could see that coming. But will know in three weeks whether or not just a few weeks away be I get there and do what you do not tell you to vote for but go out there and vote we deafly do encourage that. So don't listen to the people.

There is people have the same total ridiculous go out there vote, speak your mind. Make sure you're heard all right we get back we have discussed Jake Tapper interview with Pres. Biden secularly missing last night but I am not the overnight rating list price clips going around Jake Tapper and his big exclusive interview with Pres. Joe Biden and broke down a lot of different issues you're watching during the break. You got to see if you want your social media see some of those clips reset is a slight chance will be a recession and I'll think there will be with a slight chance, give himself a lot of real I'm curious what the overnight ratings will be on that will see if we can pull is a link out just yet, as were doing the show but there was some interesting contacts a lot of questions asked and Lindsay about how Pres. Biden thinks he's doing by 13.

One poll shows that almost 2/3 of Democratic voters want a new nominee in 2024 and the top reason they gave was your age. So what's your message to Democrats like you like what you've done, but are concerned about your age and the demands of the job well are concerned about where now I'm getting done. Looking I'm not done, namely a President in recent history's gotten as much done as I have first not a joke. That wasn't the question. That's why they're concerned because Jake Tapper said they like what you've done yet. Their names are patients are concerned about what I've done it thing you know he was listening realistically, we all should be concerned with it with aging Presidents like this.

We have a President that I believe if he completes his second term would be in his late 80s, mid-to-late 80s sure we had that discussion that should be happening amongst the Democrats, specifically on the weather to do in the next couple years seem to go back and forth with where he was labeled as good to be there for the that replaced then I felt like back in June, July, they started pumping back up and then we seem now turn just in the last week just last week when that's S&L, which made an awful amount of time is our life, really making photos age making fun of the way he speaks, whether that was in the opening monologue all week and update taking jabs that were not very Saturday Night Live again for little bit. Part of the plan here to hunt Jake Tapper bring this up in there also is that that you have okay what is he done one of those big accomplishments.

We all know some of them have been sort of hidden whether it was all inflation reduction act, which we knew was really just a green energy deal and the afflicted on people and made sure they were comfortable. There is a lot of things well that he has to write you. I agree with the President that he is gotten a lot done and he says name or present recent history is gotten as much done as I have in the first two years we we make the comparison to Jimmy Carter often that it kind of feels like that era. So maybe we would name Jimmy Carter because he has gotten a lot done, but it is been mostly negative and we compiled a list here of just a few things and we can start going through them but I mean like soaring gas prices record high inflation historic labor shortage passing and inflation reduction act, which only increases inflation a bear stock market taking America from energy independent to energy dependent that it right there. Those are just more the economic side with other that are more really policies just got a lot right but right there just on the economic side. Yes, he is been a consequential President because of the things that he is done in his first two years and that took us from a stable economy, and even coming out of the pandemic was looking more stable to just a what looks like a freefall every day when you did. You turn on CNBC or FOXBusiness you see these headlines that are can be frightening or disconcerting. Obviously their financial focus. So there was networks are going to have more of them, but it is a disconcerting time economically when the President is touting all he's done and it's not in check with reality. Yeah, a lot of people have also discussed with Pres. Biden about the recession or lack of recession.

I know this is a keyword that maybe there's some issues with the let's hear the conversation a little bit more with Jake Tapper and Pres. Biden about the potential for a recession. This comes off of what is training right now on Twitter which is J.P. Morgan one of the people to mortgage thank likely we are to tip the recession in 6 to 9 months was here at the present Jake Tapper at Sucre for the longer version of this, let's go to bite 14 midterm elections are four weeks from today, the economy remains top top of mind for voters J.P. Morgan Chase Heos in the US is likely to enter a recession in the next nine months. Bank of America says the US can start losing hundred 75,000 jobs a month. Gas prices are on the rise again.

Should the American people prepare for recession know they been saying this now how every every six months.

They said every six months. He looked down the next six months.

He was can happen. It hadn't happened.

It hadn't been factor that has, there is no there is no guarantee that your numbers I don't think there will be a recession if it is only a very slight recession that is will move down slightly moved out slightly. Will there be any people to think it could be recession. Yeah, there may be a slight recession knowing what's that really brings up the bring up every six months you been the President for 20 months so every six months is not that infrequent 333 like babies are gone up not going well and look we can all look outside. We could see the gas price you can see a much things cost the food prices. Everything is caught up so insanely and it's just getting to the point where every time you take your family out to dinner every time you go try to do anything you look at that bill you can't believe it. And people are responding to that they will try to take some of these issues though and flip them of the midterms and in just that you will do a great job with this typical politics presents Dr. say I'm doing a bad job. Unfortunately, it is part of the game which is in politics a dirty game. It's a bloodsport is as they say, and the line could be off the charts.

They could just let things fly. It's probably not can happen. Or maybe it can have maybe a little bit. It will be a slight. I don't think it can happen. But maybe just a reset slight little recession.

I want to say that word maybe not maybe we'll just say it's a drought. I don't know or maybe inside it will start out in words sound worse than the limited meeting we do have a drought which I know you have family which upgrades we settled in the cookie slight famine that was in slight famine just a little recession, so that's not that bad. You know it doesn't matter what J.P. Morgan and Bank of America have to say. Only two of the biggest in the country meant it is really sad to see these kind interviews. I am happy that that Jake Tapper pushed I think he pushed him on some of these things a little bit a little bit said what you're saying is recession yet is a slight chance recession Jake Tapper also observing others, but shakeups at CNN's pilot manner probably has some real questions now because that my job probably unaligned Brian Stelter to write exactly are done living there in about a is so it it's just that the nature of the beast you will hear a few more accomplishments by the President before we in this is John from your list yet is for Myla to put together this morning so we've got a war in Ukraine with escalating nuclear tension about Armageddon coming I did say I set Armageddon out in times didn't say it is only a slight Armageddon. It was us to the Armageddon we we thought there'd be a little Armageddon. It was just a slight Armageddon, which is a step another whole Armageddon. That's right Armageddon unfold in the ghetto didn't even happen just talking how your fine it's good.

I mean, it's not good. It's terrible, but had about it but it just feels like the or or or in the insane world Palestinians renewed attacks on Israel, including Jerusalem. That was something that was tamped down during the railing to the point where they were naming like train stations and after time from work. They were in ways that Abraham accords and so you at some that was a big one with the Middle East. I feel like people for whatever the Middle East gets quiet. America forgets about the Middle East and Rachel is Democrat office just being honest. That happens and then all of a sudden tensions rise things happen. Guises back. Don't worry to tell a man back after 20 years. Those are the kind of things people forget about. I'm hoping getting into midterms. People don't it will be an interesting time to see what the results will be in that midterm election is coming in just under a month this point. Make sure your staying to make sure you're connected. What were doing here in the work doing the DOJ loses here for listing of terrestrial radio subnetworks curing flower some liquor half hours encourager.

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Another big golf producers with an urgent appeal delay the decision for another month. The answer a resounding no set. US officials weren't worn Saudi leaders that the cut would be viewed as a clear choice by Saudi Arabia to side with Russia and Saudi officials dismissed the request, which they viewed as a political gambit by the Biden administration to avoid bad news ahead of the US midterm elections. So this decision was made on October 5 if they delayed a month it would get them past the midterm election and then were cutting 2 million barrels a day production so the Saudi said no we think you're just doing this for political gain and didn't listen.

The President, so it sets up a lot of questions about the US influence around the world how strong our leadership is if we can can't go to these supposed to be allies and make request even if it was for political gain, but something that would definitely help the American people since were now energy dependent, not energy independent and so it we have a lot of questions for Rick about how he reads this, when the United States goes to these producers and say hey we need a little bit of a break here. Can you wait and they say now interested in that Jake Tapper did bring up a lecture at the answer really the question he wanted answered, but the audit issue here. It's for the press it's from the President from present by Jake Tapper again. Talk about what was going on for the freezing Saudi Arabia to take a listen by 10, the chairman of the Senate foreign relations committee, Menendez just called for a freeze on cooperation with Saudi Arabia, including most arms sales, Sen. Durbin, the number two Democrat in the Senate, says the Saudi's sided with Russia against the United States. Do you think it's time for the US to rethink its relationship with Saudi Arabia, yes, and by the way, let's get straight wire when I didn't go to one about oil. I went about making sure that we made sure that everyone can walk away from the Middle East. You. Let's get this straight.

Not sure what is this straight where I went. I didn't go to about oil. I went about making sure that we make sure that we were going to walk away from the Middle East while at the same moment, saying you think it's time to reevaluate rethink our relationship Saudi Arabia. He says yes they are city on not going out there defend what happens in Saudi Arabia.

The there's there's it's certainly not the Western world and that's it. Maybe more so the people think that they are doing a lot of damage control right now to try to bring things back in you and Jordan got into that yesterday on secular brother James relishes that I listen that we talk a little more detail about even serve the way they move you immediately what was happening in the world Saudi Arabia but right now we were on the verge of the court, the President of a nuclear Armageddon. I do think this is the time when you start reevaluating our relationship. Saudi Arabia, I don't. I personally don't.

You might not make it up for any bad atrocities it done. There certainly done some bad stuff, why in a time of recession and slight recession maybe a recession probably recession plus war, Ukraine and Russia plus a looming nuclear war you think it's time to now, what about tighten our relationship change our relationship with Saudi Arabia do that when the word peace that when there's time, there's other things can get done we could sit on the table renegotiate. This is not the time for that.

We all know what you know and I know it come up in the next segment Rick Grenell is going to be on the broadcast Rick talk about this and a lot more to say to her watch and alleged governments be segment will be right back with him you would call a male Texan calls the final segment of the show. 1-800-684-3110 will be right back. Grenell Rick, we just talked about in the subreport and set up what was happening in the world right now with with girls Saudi Arabia and we have things like the Wall Street Journal there now reporting that the US officials beg the Saudi's OPEC to delay their decisions to cut oil productions for a month which would be after the midterm scores and they were stopped at their request, but what does this tell you about the legacy administration's clout now on the world stage when you hang your meeting with North Korea know.

Can we have a meeting with the Saudi's also know what I think Biden is been very murky and what his plans were EE message to all of us that going to Saudi Arabia was not about oil. He made that clear is that I'm not going there about oil but now suddenly he has been caught where they been lobbying members of OPEC to delay any decision on production until after the election, as you say it's clear after the election means it's a political move, but the recent statement from from Pres. Biden was that now.

Saudi Arabia has to be punished. And so I'm confused if you didn't go there for oil.

Why are you punishing them now. What was the decision. What was the reason why was the second change that may use a the Saudi's need to be punished. I thought I wasn't about well, at least, at least, that's what you told us even said that in the tabard. He was about oil that immediately what GABA we needed reevaluate our relationship with them right then, what's that what's the point in why now, why is this the right time when you're threatening nuclear Armageddon when you're here and all of the winded it in stock market is craze in crisis and gas prices are back rising. Why is now the right time and will you consider the question why is now the right time to reevaluate our relationship with Saudi Arabia will end into play off of that, Logan. It's not just the President here. This is the entire Democratic leadership, especially in the Senate were seeing very similar type statements come out and it's all target against the Saudi's right now and I just my question for Rick what you think their endgame is so will that's a great point about the Senate Democrats to being a part of this conflict. Let's rewind for a second and and I think I answer your question this way. Remember that the Senate Democrats join Joe Biden and they dropped from sanctions on the Russian pipeline and quickly thereafter. We saw the Ukraine war. I don't think it's too much to say that the Senate Democrats dropping the sanctions on the Russian pipeline pipeline gave the green light to start a war so so I would put their actions directly at the feet of helping cause a war you also look at what the Senate Democrats did by removing the who these from the terrorist list. Working with the Biden administration to make that happen.

Then we saw pretty fast missiles launching at the UA now what we see is a move by Senate Democrats to punish Saudi Arabia. I have to say is in anyone while seeking their debacle every time they make a decision about the Middle East. It inflames the situation it's gotten worse and now suddenly they want to freeze out the Saudi's, finally, we we definitely got past them.

I got past this difficult. During the Khashoggi situation when we were varied wanted to Saturdays. They felt the pressure and that consequences of what they did and we were moving on and then Biden kinda brought it all back just to be able to deal with the Iran Iraq Gunnison that's a calling card, and that's a probably talked about this in the last thing which is sure it's in here defending the Saudi's were not defending that your what happened in the Khashoggi incident.

Everything that happened. There's horrible but just feels like the wrong time to be doing this. It feels like an image the wrong person to be leading it. We be brought to the Middle East in general, I think Americans and I will put American Democrats as well. Quick to forget about what happens in the Middle East because during the Trump time and I said this when during the 2020 election and nausea. Midnight. I honestly wish it was brought up more in the debates.

It was brought up more and in would present troubles running was there was relative peace for years.

There was quiet there was the Abraham accords with all these positive things happening in the Middle East. Some of very emotional very connected to personally suit.

To me this was such a big step forward. I told people if this happens and you have a President Joe Biden. Remember that ISIS will be back. Remember that Afghanistan will be in Christ will even hear about the Taliban you hear about these things that you forgot about believe a very short attention span.

You may remember 9/11 in theory we don't do some of the fallout that happened right after it you don't remember the 20 year war because all of a sudden things will quiet then you have Afghanistan in ruins, then you have ISIS returning then you have all of these things now are poking Saudi Arabia and when you look at the rhetoric that's coming out of the administration. It's almost as if the idea of nuclear war. War in general is is almost inevitable, which is horrifying. It's very scary. I don't I don't personally guess.

I believe that but the way their talk the way they're throwing out there using terms like nuclear Armageddon ratcheting up the rhetoric feels like it doesn't it doesn't feel like there's any sense of control that is deal at de-escalating will certainly ratcheting up the military talk and the war talk and pushing aside the diplomatic talk I mean we don't see any diplomatic action. We don't see Anthony Lincoln Rothstein to the area with some sort of a deal uniting Elon musk came up with some idea for Ukraine rock issue wasn't a great set of points. There was a couple in there that we could probably build off but had a couple points and that bad but he was trying to do something diplomatically rather than giving to this war talk and you know let's also be very clear that the reason why the Biden administration is currently attacking Saudi Arabia's because they're trying to get an Iran deal with.

They're trying to do is show the Iranians that they know how to be top on the Saudi's and that they can be trusted and so this is all the way to build trust with the Iranian regime so can allow their trying to wag a finger to say you know the Saudi's are are terrible. We should be dealing with them. This, dealing with the Iranians and so I think that we need to call them out well and you mentioned the diplomatic efforts here and work fortunate to have you because you've been a diplomat. You know this world very well and the question I have is obviously this diplomatic failure with the US going to the Saudi's in trying to get them to delay a deal regardless of the merits of whatever they were asking for. When US diplomats go in. Try to frame the issue with the Saudi's that if they don't do this work in a take it as a sign that your siding with the Russians and then is there. The potential that they had the unintended consequence of actually pushing the Saudi's closer to Russia. Trying to frame this entire narrative. This way I mean is a good strategic thinking that you're doing there. And yes, I'm very concerned about that because it boils down to the fact that the Biden is facing is any credibility. Remember as they came into office. You had a girl hands reading hat who's the head of the head of all intelligence agencies. She repackaged the intelligence on the Khashoggi case and then released it just as stated in the Ibis that is that the Biden team came in so and and and they were trying to deal with the Saudi's enemies. The Iranians on some sort of a new nuclear deal, which would include giving them money, giving them billions of dollars knowing full well every everyone around the world sees that the Iranians and they get money they increase their terror and so you got that issue and then you got the whole of these being taken off the terror list in the Saudi's are looking at the Biden ministration insane you're crazy you know when you're doing and so now were not going to help you but this is the bad that the Biden administration has made. They're going to have to lay in it and I find it to be consistently bad news for the Middle East.

Every time the Biden team comes up with new ideas. This latest idea to cut ties with Saudi Arabia is a disastrous idea. Thank you Rick again. As always, for joining us like was really informative and a lot of people received comments comments as well as appreciate your insight as we headed to this next segment. Critics of phone calls love to hear from you we we did a lot of topics today.

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Calling out for your untimed time you're on the way, thanks for taking my call. Have an obvious question being really a liberal environment and needs the you think Dural even have a chance in getting that conviction of anybody he brings to the trial is interesting question Tom.

Because it is more liberal districts of the jury pool that will be pulling for would probably have more liberal views as far as politics go, I didn't because it's really really play in writing this kind of think of course they will some extent. It's not like this was a good day she's on trial for lying to the FBI so at the end of the day.

IAI believes that a jury could put politics aside.

Here the facts and if they are presented in a way that proves that this this gentleman, Mr. Igor DiFranco was indeed lying to the FBI that the jury will be able to find a guilty verdict in that case, but yes, whenever there something that has such a rich political backstop to it something that is one of the more divisive situations in American history when the folks were trying to push a narrative that someone running for President was colluding with a foreign enemy in order to win the presidency and those allegations were not just false but made up in part by the political opponent of that candidate. Yet, it really caused a lot of division in we for years for four years of the term presidency and now almost 6 years with the Biden presidency included has been we've been arguing over. This is been the backdrop of American politics for a long time now since 2016.

It is hard to not put that out of your mind that a jury couldn't have some sort of bias going in as soon as they find out what the trial is about because I don't think there's an American alive that hasn't heard of this, at least tangentially to something else that so yeah I understand his concerns, but I'm hoping that will see justice prevail actually remove our attention back over this interview and I know some about his basic hearing about the nuclear Armageddon. But it was something said by the President. We get to take that six books were joking around with him secular brothers podcast yesterday we did a whole show about the Newsweek today for real article that was not done in just about the best places to live.

If such a fallout was to happen, we are time to be living that's for sure. But he was asked this by Jake Tapper was asked specifically about using these terms and whether that it was legitimate threat, whether those are things we should talk about supply by 2526 to hear little bit more will discuss again give us a call, meds to get your phone: 1-800-684-3110 different Jake Tapper. When people hear the word Armageddon they get scared from use by USPS and I think it scared. Do you think in any way discussing this type of thing publicly openly as possible use of nuclear weapons might have the opposite effect of what you want.

It might make some of our wobbly or European allies be even more scared of confronting food, no I don't think so at all. I think it was directed when I'm talking about talking to food. She in fact cannot continue with impunity to talk about the use of a tactical nuclear furnace if that's a rational thing to do okay coming up with something. You know that really were saying were to say directly to putting this is not rationally should be using you nuclear war it should be conducted via threatening to their work.

Even though earlier in the interview present Biden did call him a rational actor who's just miscalculated so there is a little bit of time here that I hedged there there earlier in the interview he said you know a lot of people think he's not a rational actor and what you think is I think is a rational actor who miscalculated and then later he saying here that he can't just go around talking about nuclear war as if it's a rational thing to do yet.

So I think there's a little miscommunication about what is hereby 26 is more about the Armageddon mistakes Cape May government and the miscalculation can occur known concert be sure what would happen and could end in Armageddon and you still are afraid of, that thou that it could all now I don't think anyone any rational person saying the initial use of tactical new of a nuclear weapon killing thousands of people does not have the prospect of bleeding is something that can be way out of control. I would be very scared that no but yes they do it again because he said are you still afraid of that, though, that it could well know. I don't think anyone any rational person same initial use of time to nuclear weapons, killing thousands of people do not have the prospect leads you are still scared of it because it still potential that I maybe say the Russians not to do this but you putting this out there and I think this is one of the biggest miscalculations of present Biden's is saying these things.

Putting these terms out there starting to float this narrative that freak people out completely and since people into sort of more of a tailspin that would say that could've happened even to some extent during the covert crisis which, like I took very seriously is not a something we joke around about here with some of the rhetoric that came out during it certainly cause a lot of mental unrest and we start threatening the nuclear fallout a nuclear Armageddon resort using those terms, you're the leader of the free world in the present. You take responsibility for the words you say and that was are some big ones. The ones we do not take lightly in this country.

The people who lived through the threat of it, but David said never this much never feels like it's almost inevitable because of the situation. It's happening in Russia, situation of Ukraine. Our relationship with Saudi Arabia.

Our relationship with all of the Middle East and the turmoil around the world by Pompeo treated present binds casual comments about nuclear Armageddon were reckless, the terrible risk to the American people.

It's also it's really acyclic is a risk to not only the actual well-being of America, a nuclear attack, but to the mental capacity that we have right now is all been stressed evolving through a hellish few years now and not by the way, you know it's happening your kid schools, you know the double horribleness or having the shootings of all of this stuff by the way, let's tacked onto that heading into election threat of nuclear war well and that is that it might Pompeo sweetheart about the casual comments the diplomats and in the Department of Defense in the back channels with Russia. There's communication going on.

If the President wanted to get the message across to Vladimir Putin that hey, let's not get to nuclear Armageddon they can get that message there without him being on CNN with Jake Tapper reiterating something like no one can be sure of what would happen but it could end in Armageddon like that just isn't the proper place for that messaging because while he said earlier that he was talking to Putin when he says that I understand that may be his intention what he's talking to the entire world when he makes a statement and like you said, it brings up a fear level and brings up a concern inmate does raise the risk it raises the risk that other nations could miscalculate not just Russia or the United States. The a lot of miscalculations that happen almost make it a self-fulfilling prophecy. When you start saying these things on a global stage.

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