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BREAKING: Biden Says End Filibuster to Codify Roe

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June 30, 2022 4:05 pm

BREAKING: Biden Says End Filibuster to Codify Roe

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June 30, 2022 4:05 pm

In breaking news, President Biden just said that the filibuster should be temporarily removed in order to codify Roe and accused the Supreme Court of "destabilizing" America and the world. Logan and the rest of the Sekulow team break down President Biden's recent statements and provide their analysis on the future of the filibuster and whether Congress could codify Roe even without the filibuster. This and more today on Sekulow.

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Calls filibuster specifically interesting morning to say the least. As we are talking about a very specific subject. Obviously we know less than a week ago Roe versus Wade is overturned by the United States Supreme Court of one celebrated victory for the first time in decades, 50 years, nearly you had the overturning of a law the lobby but the pro-life movement spent their whole lives that you may never see. I saw it.

But guess what the Democrats are again and this time it's not just sit it just that I just rated Congressman people to present United States went on the record any real press conference. Not even in our country, not even on our soil to say essentially they're willing to do whatever, including treating to make sure that abortion rights become specifically codified into law because the supreme ghetto superseded the Supreme Court of the United States that is what's happening. If you don't believe me.

Let's hear from the President himself, Joe Biden.

One thing that has been destabilizing is the outrageous behavior of the Supreme Court of United States and overruling not only Roe V Wade, but essentially challenging the right to privacy only. I believe we have to codify Roe V Wade in the law and the way to do that is to make sure the Congress. Coaches do that and if the filibuster gets in the way.

It's like voting rights. It should be. We provide an exception for this is required exception filibuster for this action to deal with his decision to deal with the Supreme Court's decision will throw out the filibuster to try to get this through. It simply one thankfully fan but not that easy as their art.

The votes just quite yet, but that can easily happen and look this is a real threat that we can't just ignore imprinted is it real. This is a problem if they decided to just this one moment to just throw out the President of the filibuster to because I feel like things not not important enough, but for this for the taking of human life with you. We gotta do it you loving this is something that we warned about. Even before the decision in Dobbs came down this is something the Democrats in Washington DC had been telegraphing for some time now.

There is a bill called the women's health protection act that would codify Roby way into federal law and Logan. It would go a lot further that we get in us of these details later, maybe. But it also eviscerate Allstate protections for life, both of Artie past and in the future. Logan they've passed that in the United States house and they've tried to pass it twice in the United States Senate and failed. I will tell you this week we told you I we told listeners that after if Dobbs went the right way, they would come back they would try to change the filibuster they would either try to change it outright or they would try to pass this carveout, you know, say, this issue just too big for a filibuster to to carry and then they would try to codify Roe, but Logan you're right. We have to start here something the President is not saying currently in the United States Senate.

They don't even have a simple majority.

The filibuster is not blocking this they only have 49 senators in favor of ending the filibuster and Logan when they took this vote just a couple weeks ago, only 46 senators voted in favor of codifying road. There were another three who weren't there, but even that Logan I was pretty good in math. Growing up, that's 49. That is not a had no simple majority out of 100 senators razor thin margins will as we head into midterm elections.

This is where the midterms have major major consequences. We can't let up because just because there's a big without Supreme Court clearly there to do whatever they want to potentially it in their decision. That's right. And whether it be cheating by going against the rules that are established in the Senate, or whether it is going on towards November and trying to flip a few seats in the Senate just to get it over the finish line will see what they do. As the days come down. They were take your phone calls will hear from you today, it's me. Well, they had already talk at all about this as well as of the other Supreme Court decisions. We have seen today for the CPA ruling of Armada Mexico really were taught both of those coming up the question or comment 1-800-684-3110.

That's what 100 684-3110 to have your voice heard of the year will be right back secular. We are seeing right now.

By the way the swearing in, but you Justice Roberts of the new Justice Brown that will come in. That's an interesting moment when all of this is breaking.

You have a new Supreme Court justice coming in and what is bizarre in the same moment you have the present United States. I we need to supersede the Supreme Court of the United States. That's not good enough for us. You rolled away.

We don't agree with him.

I we we mean this specific administration. By the way by we really mean me you don't remember before I decided I was going to become the President is a pretty moderate it was safe, legal, rare kinda guy before that I was someone pull up the creek behind him admit this is not the most ultimate pro-choice candidates not putting it AOC on the bill. However, we seen that come up in the last few days of conversations happening we've seen on Stephen Colbert had AOC and said you know you can be 35 right before the election and that shows you if those partners are setting it up. He's getting ready for reelection. He's hoping to run for reelection. Have you ever had a presidency in your lifetime. We we've heard this many times.

The President get asked to run again and not even two full years in he's crazy year and half and was presidency at this point. Are you still think you know about this. It's not going well. It's not going well. People don't seem too thrilled with you so that was good to pull a fast way to get a Supreme Court justice is being sworn in. We now have this from Pres. Biden say is time to in the filibuster temperament look just for this just for that. That's how it is in Washington right just what I find it convenient. Just what I would like to cheat the rule of law. Just what I would like to change things for our own self for what we agree with his guess what we know what happens if things flip there to look at filibuster and it just happens over and over and over again.

They're not afraid to do anything when it comes to threatening any part of their feelings or their emotions that go in beyond the rule of law. Again, as you've just seen only a week later from that decision now.

Justice Jackson part of the court and will we have it at day or you have the present United States, saying forget about Supreme Court you have the vice President saying between Gottlieb this morning out spelled exactly, but essentially saying it's time we got it we gotta skip the filibuster.

We got a codify rodeo with the cut of this is from the official notice is even from the Coppola Harris account is from the VP account say we have to codify Roe versus Wade into law.

If the filibuster gets in the way the Senate needs to make an exception to get this done as Stan said in DC simply not that easy as that is the votes currently aren't there. However, pressure could push a lot of these people to switch and you're talking about, there's not one or two votes were not talk about their tort and that is why these midterms and Sadie put up a whole gives a whole list is why these midterms are maybe more important physically to the causes we support our most important in terms of our life. Yet, one or two votes in the United States Senate. Logan could flip both of these are merely exactly right. It is a razor thin majority for both of these and I don't get to in the weeds here, but I do really want our listeners to pay attention to this because it is not just a simple as not having to convince one senator to switch his or her vote on the filibuster or on codifying Roe alone and there are a lot of procedural shenanigans, I would called Holden that leader Sumer could use he's you have to get to 50 votes twice. Let's let's put it very simply connect to get to 50 votes to. Create some sort of change to the filibuster, then he's thinking have to get to 50 votes did make some kind of change to codify Roe or to push back on a states authority to regulate. Here's the thing. Logan he doesn't need the same 50 votes for on each of those so he can convince a certain set of 50 senators to vote one way on the filibuster and then he says okay a couple of you can have a free pass to vote the other way when it comes to making the changes on road all use a different 50 votes to get there to make those changes and you can try to get political cover. That way, so I say all that Logan to say we cannot look away from the danger of this potential United States Senate. I've seen it before this can happen. And you're right, Logan. There are 20 Republican seats that are up for defense this fall. If only a couple of them go leader Sumer's way. All the sudden this math gets a whole lot easier for them in Logan one thing that really bothered me about the way that Pres. Biden put this forward today is that this wasn't from his press secretary in the White House briefing room on any given weekday head into a July 4 holiday. No, these are the words of Pres. Biden himself in a rare press conference. He doesn't a lot of them didn't know, I see. Maybe you heard this we had to do some editing. This was also in Madrid, Spain. At the end tail end of this NATO meeting that he's been that he decided to rebuke the United States Supreme Court and I'm going to play bite one because it it shows that he wasn't just talking to a domestic audience. He was talking to a global audience about an institution within our Constitution within our US government, a coequal branch of that government. The US Supreme Court and he calls it destabilizing. That doesn't mean just for within the United States.

He's talking on a global stage.

He's saying it's destabilizing to the world. One of our three coequal branches of government listen.

It's kind of scary play bite one.

One thing that has been destabilizing is the outrageous behavior of the Supreme Court of United States and overruling not only Roe V Wade, but essentially challenging the right to privacy and a leader in the world in terms of personal rights and privacy rights and it is a mistake in my view for the Supreme Court. Do what it did.

Yeah it is a wild time to see something like this happen is not a shocking thing to try to find any way to try to rally people up heading into an election season young people of the phones. What 100 684-3110. A lot of people are concerned because if this happens, they're able to do this supersede Supreme Court.

What is that mean if you liberals out there who are listening will that mean for you if something that you feel so passionate about eventually could just get switch to codify the door about it doesn't matter what sprinkler nest site Tim California calling on line 1 to their you might call it.

You know what Joe Biden to try to get he wants to get rid of filibuster so Roe can be codified by God Roe done away with. When it was found unconstitutional you think that it would be its Constitution was ruled unconstitutional by the state Supreme Court, but the President just a bit, so this is a big question here taxation to the lawyers at the ACLJ have been looking at even since the leak of the draft opinion, one that the constitutionality of the filibuster that's within the Senate's own rules so that there's no issue of him saying I want the Senate to do this. They don't have to do it, but they get to make up their own rules, but the other aspect of what he's asking you since the Supreme Court did do away with it in the way the ruling reads when it comes from Justice Alito is saying is not a constitutional right right you got in the states and now it's who control states and so therefore there will be a question and especially if the Democrats are upset about the way this Supreme Court is made up. I don't know that it's necessarily the most prudent way for them to go into this is to try to do something at the federal level because there is an argument to be made that the way that the ruling came down because it's not found within the Constitution. Does Congress have a place to actually make law based on that or is this a states issue so if they are to get forward. I personally believe that there will be a challenge very quickly by state Segway.

The Supreme Court just said this is ours, but don't let up.

People understand this, you're saying it now play out as a lot of us have it as in Washington DC, you see the play out. It's never simple. It's never a I will never say never but when there's issues like this would Supreme Court decision like this happens you think sort of the end of the story now goes back to the states. As the Supreme Court ruled that sand kicking and screaming, they will not go yeah I would say it's very rarely simple in Washington DC Logan. I think that's probably fair to say and I will's I will say this as well. I think it would be imprudent for a Democrats in United States Senate to go down the track.

But prudence does not often guide these decisions. Logan and they they really seem committed to going on this track to me and look I am in. This is part of the problem that you get when you get a Supreme Court that made up out of whole cloth.

This constitutional right. This was never enshrined in the Constitution was never in statutory law, and I think that's the distinction that maybe our caller needs to understand here this would actually be an effort to take the principles of row that were really first created by the Supreme Court and actually write them into federal law.

So I agree with Logan with will. There's a strong argument to be made that that is not constitutional, but that would have to be challenge that was not what Roe address row addressed a Supreme Court decision. This would be actually writing it into federal law and then that law would have to be challenge while timer and keep going cantonment this were also going to talk about the other spring court decisions that came down this morning. The last of the turbulence we just saw this spring for justice, joy, the court, as of just a few minutes ago.

So with that were discussed. Not only this challenge to his report decision as colorfully in the filibuster to codify Roe into law just will unconstitutional, but it could be actively codified in the road are into law were also going to talk about the PA ruling will talk a little bit about rated Mexico ruling.

What it actually means just like a lot of these you connect to it in the weeds to understand who one who lost who lost and how that works really get into that as well. Reducing phone lines open at one 800 684 31 to support the work ofaclj@aclj.org secular will be taking your calls 100-684-3110 really want to give a quick update. Also, gums were talking about the Senate were talking about calling for the convocation of row were talking about them into the filibuster temporarily just for this justices matters more than everything else. We also don't want to forget about what's happening on the state level and in Kentucky you may have heard show yesterday. We talked about that there has been a lot going on the state of Kentucky whether there trigger laws were to go into place what's happening. We have some updates. That's right, we had Frank Manion on this week to give us, and an update because we knew that the ACLU along with Planned Parenthood were suing the state of Kentucky that we are to save you listening to state because Ella traditionally conservative statement always this weird case of the Democratic governor and a Republican Atty. Gen. that flips in the Atty. Gen.'s constantly suing the governor no matter who is in power. It's an odd situation on Kentucky always but not a so the best we have cities so that's right so Frank Manion gave us an update that the court he was at the courthouse yesterday this morning granted a Temporary Restraining Order against the Kentucky trigger law so that would be a law that if the Supreme Court overturned Roe versus Wade would go into effect which would limit the abortion industry within the state of Kentucky and so this morning the the judge out of Louisville did give a TRO temporary restraining order against the trigger law so that the loss there. The preliminary injunction hearings will start next week, but the ACLJ attorneys as well as our folks over at ACLJ action are already engaging with this already having these communications within the state and we will be engaging in fighting this in Kentucky to hopefully get a positive outcome and get that trigger law into effect goes down to the state level, as we sat as Roe overturned Roe would do brought to the states sets of tapping into Kentucky maybe having your stators record of the states have at least 20+ states believed to have some kind of of law that work is going on the place. It Artie has over the next 30 days. State of Tennessee went to immediately to assure window and then in 30 days or less goes into a stricter law but were getting a full 50 state review thing and that's something that we were working on right now through the ACLJ of each state and what's happening at assuming they don't get to fill about in the filibuster codify railroad Quicken and really throw everything out the window which would be just a horrible shaman. Another really big blemish in American world, but for for this. We do have this project going on right now you Logan objection reviewing this right before coming down to being on error legal team is been hard at work on this really for months now Logan and I know it can be confusing for people to do now look at this sort of patchwork across 50 states of life laws that exist to what we've done is we've compiled a snapshot of what that looks like across all 50 states. At the moment that Dobbs came down and therefore Roe fell. Now, obviously, as as will was just reporting this is gonna change rapidly.

Logan so there's gonna be moving parts on this for weeks and months ahead. But we want to give people a snapshot of what that looks like all across the country at the moment that Dobbs fell and so that's actually in a post@aclj.org tomorrow. Were also going to provide people with an opportunity to stand with us as we go all across the country defending these new state laws and then also trying to beat back some of the states that are actually to try to do similar to what we talked about on the federal level.

Logan they're gonna try to enshrine the right to abortion, either in their constitutions or in their state lost the will be playing defense on that as well but a people should look for that tomorrow ACLJ.org. It will be a great way to get up to speed at where things are in your state that kicks off our July article kick off our matching challenge. So make sure you stay to know there make sure you check out the ACLJ.org I said I hear a lot whenever I have the opportunity to host or be a part of the broadcast to get out so I take a second of your time talk about this@aclj.org is not just a great place to support the work we do here legally or the support that the media operation that we have here, which as you can imagine if you're listening or watching us right now you know there are so many people so me positions and so much work gets done to get all of the stuff you each and every day, but on our website@aclj.org or on our social media platforms or on all the different outlets we have the ACLJ app. These are things that you talked about that much. The secular podcast new podcast becoming very soon. There's a lot happening new films, new documentaries, new projects that are coming new partnerships that are coming good ACLJ.org and just spend some time looking at the incredible content, whether that is from people like my dad and my brother Jay joined secular people like Mike Pompeo, Rick Grenell people you hear the show something we don't hear of the show as we are such a deep roster of incredible people who contribute to this broadcast to this organization to daily videos, radio, you have to get involved sign petitions you can get so deeply involved and of course if you need legal help. It is within our purview of what we do with the ACLJ all of that is because the support of people who support the ACLJ is none of that it starts to the clients. That's a great thing that we offer here at the ACLJ you to find out so much more on our on our website on our app or social media platforms get engaged in what were doing here. It's not just a great place to hear radio show every day or to sign a petition or to make a donation. There is new pieces new articles deep interesting pieces that could put up each and every day. That's right. And let's go to a caller. Here we have a Johanna calling on line to from California to Hannah, you're on the air like Carl correctly pointed a new frequent justice on the Supreme Court to add to the original nine clarify that today I just eschatology Brown Jack said was I was in the term right so it is a term happen. Justice retired Justice presses by retired and was replaced.

So this is not a tense justice apologize if that was confusing, but today all of that switch and as we were on the edge thought was very pertinent very interesting that as we are on their talk about superseding Supreme Court of the United States you had Pres. Biden's pick being replacing briar happening at that moment just hours after the same day things worse, they were months ago. So yeah, it did feel like you are repeating history almost yet.

I was always going take place today at the end of the term of that today we know the editor was the end of the term. So now I'm sorry if I was some some confusion.

I just thought it was an interesting bit of trivia that as the President was built on Mike say we need to essentially overthrow the Supreme Court's decision as I destabilizing in the nobody is like trouble I picked goes in today so pretty at two dollars. Interesting fund fact brick you talk about this and talking about some of the other Supreme Court decisions we head into the back half hour of the show so your for a lot of you for listening over the air radio so you'll get the first half hour.

Maybe that second half hour later manual gives 1/2 hour and all their Lotta ways that you can get it right now for listening to this we were doing this live, we are live for an additional half hour on social media platforms under some blood radio stations as well. A social media platforms Facebook, YouTube, rumble.

We are there on ACLJ.org maybe the easiest good ACLJ.org you can find is broadcasting their life right now, so make sure you to dig throughout the second half hour really moving to some other topics also takes more calls at one 800 684 31 tense if you think you loses here you don't. If you do have to step away now you can catch up show is broadcast mentally live. We put the show on the secular podcast. You can find all of the get on our social be platforms, you find it pretty much immediately after the show is over on the secular podcast we gets uploaded pretty much immediately and you can find it broadcasting live again for the next half hour I will be taking your phone calls. I want to hear more from you when you hear something like this here that the Supreme Court of the United States had maybe the biggest ruling overturning Roe versus Wade in our lifetime. Less than a week later have the present United States. I yeah we need to just do away with that.

Do away with the filibuster.

Let's codify Roe into law. The thing that this recording night states just said was unconstitutional. How does that make you feel is an American voter give us a call 1-800-684-3110. We will be right back, keeping you informed and now is right now we are about the fact that the President went on the record saying we need to not only in the filibuster, but specifically just for this moment in the filibuster.

Take a temporary pause of the filibuster so they can codify Roe into law superseding what has happened at the Supreme Court of the United States under a week ago.

That's where it starts.

This time it were a total of what was happening a couple other cases that came out today what involving Gratian rated Mexico policy.

The other one leap yet so to top things we know. Your incident will break down those in the upcoming segment. Do it quickly takes of these phone calls because people have been calling specifically about the life issue before we move on when to take some calls about that and you still are on hold about life. We still go to get to get outrigger best, least let's go to Jeff calling great state of Tennessee.

Jeff you're on their page. I think you have me on so like I'm an average person evaluate little thing going on with Ruby and overturn new music adjuster layout the context of my question. Are there any states that are re-legislating abortion law at their estimate level. Since this happened because I think that would be the best way to go about church going through right now and then.

The reason I say that is career loans were probably passed under different circumstances in different contexts made each simply for political purposes, but we need to know where our state legislature towards actually stand with regards to abortion, and again, I am against it, but I am very much disagree court's decision was a victory for liberty. But we need to see where the state legislators really stand and we can use that to judge our votes in the future well and just let you do bring up a lot of good points and many of these trigger laws weren't necessarily for political purposes.

They were knowing that the decision in Dobbs would be coming, so when the case out of Mississippi was taken out. That's the Dobbs case. Dobbs was the health administrator there.

So that's why his name gets attached to it in perpetuity but that a lot of the states knew this was coming, so they knew there was a potential that these laws would be in effect.

That's why they're called trigger laws. If the Supreme Court went in their favor. They would be triggered into effect. So we also saw the reverse of that from the left in states like New York and California.

Maryland has is trying to get something through as well where it's trying to expand the abortion industry. We know in New York up until the point of birth.

Remember in Virginia when Gov. Northam have the famous we will let the baby be born in then will make a decision line that was outrageous to so many people that was all. In this context, knowing that the Supreme Court was likely going to be taking up some sort of case like this and people getting ready so that it wasn't all of a sudden. This this cloud of confusion. But that states already have in place where they thought the state law should be as they approach something where there is no longer the President from the Supreme Court so in a sense, Jeff.

They've already been doing that for years now leading up to this knowing that this was a big moment. Either it was gonna be affirmed for probably the final time after Casey or it would be overturned, which is what we ended up staying interesting and we've had this conversation in this debate over the years you were involved in a lot of those cases and those laws get past and I was kind of always in the room going yeah, but there's still Roe, so there still Roe, what's the point of some of this. Honestly is much as I hoped for the day when Rose overturned it. I never thought I'd see.

I never thought my lifetime I'd see him ever that we have Supreme Court that would do so at times I was in the background going. What is this random new law or this heartbeat.

Well, as much support what is it actually mean when Roe was still the law of the land. Here's what happens. A lot of those are passed fairly recently like with happening in a lot of the states and the Dakotas in Tennessee and other areas also wills right some of this stuff has been happening in anticipation for the overturning the next segments were taken calls Ross is good to do our best to dive into the other Supreme Court cases of obviously Roe dominates the conversation below will try to jump in here talk with EPA document remain Mexico to you called and we will takes mortals well what hundred 684-3110 Royce calling 91 South Dakota earlier. Hello hello hello I want to get my my opinion on will Roe versus way and I copied that the Supreme Court did what they did and I believe are in all over the all over America.

We need that believing that this is going to happen. Okay, but I want to get my opinion on about the President. Okay the President of the United States should never step in and tell they you know light how South Dakota what to do and how we should still abort allow abortion okay though as we jump in on state laws, as now it's been ruled unconsciously the roads unconstitutional does not drive a constitutional right to abortion now goes back to the states well in.

That's exactly what the President is trying to stay out of instead of going and trying to fight each individual state law. At this point, I would be surprised if they tried to have the Atty. Gen. Merrick Garland try to do that at some point, but that's why he's trying to push for a federal codification of row he's trying to make the federal law and this wouldn't be an edict. This wouldn't be an executive action he's calling on Congress to make a law, and to pass it so that he can sign it to. And I think this they are engaging in a little bit of of misinformation. That's her favorite term. They keep saying it in the President it himself with his tweet and his statement was that we need to codify Roe versus Wade into law that's not what they're trying to do. Don't let them tell you that they're trying to codify Roe versus Wade.

The supreme that's what they said to him what they are actually trying to do is go way beyond what Roe versus Wade set into into practice. There was the viability line, which was often criticized that came out of Roe versus Wade of you know is setting the limits of where abortion could happen at what stage in development. The federal legislation wants to do away with that completely and have federally abortion up until birthday wants to get rid of any one state does want to supersede the states that put in protections or limitations or regulations regarding abortion. So this is not just as simple as we want to take what the. The decision of Roe versus Wade was drafted in legislative jargon and try to put that for this law they're trying to do that so that they think they can get in polling data.

A good amount of the country to support that is far as it goes but it's not that it is much more extreme than just codifying Roe versus Wade into law, which would be extreme in and of itself is extreme as you said in an political tool to hopefully rile people up for the upcoming midterms as well so that something that we need to look into now want to take a second away from roads talk about the last decisions that came down this morning. Will it it it fairly hot button topics right there issues that a lot of our audience care about. Maybe not quite to the level of life because what's really more important, but you have ruling coming down about EPA and about immigration. Let's first start with the PAB breakdown when right so this was West Virginia versus the Environmental Protection Agency. This was one of two that we are waiting to get a result on this actually was a an opinion written by Chief Justice Roberts but it was a 63 decision so all of the conservative bloc with Chief Justice Roberts and then you have the three dissents from Justices Kagan soda Mayor and briar and what it essentially was at at stake was the EPA.

Some of the regulations went much further than West Virginia thought what should have been okay with under the weight was written under legislative text. This is the best way to break it down because it gets really technical when it comes to Congress and the regulatory making. This is a political have minuses. The Supreme Court handcuffs Biden on a major climate rule. This is why this is important to our listeners.

The Supreme Court limited the authority of what they call the regulatory state or administrative state. It sees agencies like the EPA, the even the IRS, the Securities and Exchange Commission, the FDA, all of these administrative agencies that fall under the executive branch make a lot of these rules, the impact our lives that aren't federal law. It's not coming from Congress there taking congresses laws in making rules on it. This greatly limits the authority so one thing we've been concerned about is whether say the EPA could try to get rules through the non-legislative process that would effectively create the green new deal by giving things that are mandated as far as the clean energy or at the way you get your electricity or the gasoline and this limits their authority so if they try to do an end around whether with the IRS with targeting people or the EPA with try and get the green new deal. It limits their ability because the Supreme Court is saying that they only have a limited authority in that rulemaking process for baby to touch on the stairs is not necessarily just in EPA regulation when this is a way and for limited government, such yellow that I mean I know this gets a little bit technical. This is a great ruling it really is. This is a great ruling because it says that on questions of the major questions for things that like climate change things. It would be significant changes to policy. It was a question of whether or not the executive branch could really act on their own really act without the People's legislature are writing the laws in the first place and then the opinion clearly says no. So yes will will correctly the most immediate impact is on initiatives and tightened inside the green new deal and I think that in itself is terrific. Logan because this administration was inclined to do it but let me just tell you from a DC perspective of both parties do this, the administrations try to enact law, it is probably beyond their statutory authority and they try to get away with it.

This ruling is going to do a lot to curtail it. So it's not gonna get the attention of Dobbs, but Logan I would tell you this is one of the best decisions of this term and this this even goes to the book. Your dad wrote undemocratic without bow a lot of these things.

These agencies were doing and this really helps with some of the problems that we saw, but then I have a question for you, because where mind, my mind immediately goes, especially with what were talking about today we know that Javier Becerra was trying to push from the department of Health and Human Services, saying hey I'm to try to do a lot of rulemaking here to expand abortion rights under the federal government without going through the legislative process. Do you think this win against the EPA could in fact have positive ramifications against something that that Javier Becerra would try to do. I love that your mind goes there will, congratulations, that's excellent yeah I mean I can't. I can think of so many rules where this is gonna be one of the decisions that when we make comments on behalf of our members were in a psych.

This decision will work in a site. The fact that the Supreme Court has now ruled very clearly there has to be a clear statutory a delegation from the Congress.

If the and if the executive branches can rule on a certain area so I think it applies to that area.

I think it applies to things inside of the Treasury Department at the IRS and Department of Labor Department of Education really all down the line.

Will this is going to be a ruling where we can point back to it and say unless you can point to a specific delegation of authority that the United States Congress gave you you can't go there really will have a couple minutes for in the segment also wanted to touch on the remain in Mexico ruling that came out because where this was big when this one is a little bit more gray.

That's right so this was essentially when Pres. Biden came in to office and try to get rid of anything that Pres. Trump had put into place. One of them was what is called the remaining Mexico policy more efficiently. It's called the migrant protection protocols. They they tried to do away with this.

This was when and asylum-seekers got here instead of remaining in custody in the United States or being released on bond into the United States to come back for a asylum hearing. They were removed from the country put into Mexico and it was very the entire point was to be more safe.

Also to be able to keep track and that was what the trumpet ministration did administration try to get away with it. Texas soothed by administration saying you didn't do this through the correct processes. It was outside of law.

It was on the face of it. It was a loss. It was a five for decision where the Chief Justice wrote the decision and Brett Cavanaugh joined on that I I don't think this one has as big of an implication because they could have gone through even just the standard rulemaking process probably and and it wouldn't have gotten rid of the rule a lot quicker than having to wait for the court to decide, but it does it. Brett Cavanaugh in a concurring opinion set in general when there is insufficient attention capacity so they don't have enough room at the border on our side both parole option and the return Mexico option are legally permissible options. They deferred to the executive branch to have a lot more authority on the immigration stance in the future though.

While it's a loss today could help us with a conservative President be able to get in. Try to undo some of the really bad policy were sing at the border from the Biden administration. If then, a more liberal state like California tried to sue and say hey you can't undo what Pres. Biden did so. There is a little bit of wiggle room but on the face as far as the remaining Mexico policy, not a victory for that today. Yeah, absolutely. Early tickets of phone calls, for the next time it's our last segment of the day. The next one we would hear from you. I have couple people and hold a couple lines up right now you want to hear your voice on the air. This is the time have your voice heard.

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That's at 1-800-684-3110 we can touch on any of the topics that we talked about today. Whether that court rulings or talk on this segment or course Pres. Biden said whoever the filibuster for a second, let's codify row and maybe not even codify road let's give you a more extreme abortion rights law is: 800 684 31 to last segment of secular for the day. We back tomorrow, but you give us a call right now. Love to hear from you tomorrow really joined by some great guests or talk a lot about a lot of different topics to go at is really offensive comments I hey look like you're some sort of victory. The Ben & Jerry's front. We'll talk about that It seemed like a silly topic, but we know there was quite a loss.

The BDS movements will take that out tomorrow we'll talk a lot about that Roscoe delivered canals will be on tomorrow night you will have investor Grenell and Dir. of National intelligence officer. Tune into my old a lot more talk about, but I wanted to turn the microphone over to you what to hear from you. What 100 684-3110 have your voice heard on the air. Let's start off, that was some phone calls.

Jim's college in New York and Jimmy been on hold for a while. I appreciate it. Go ahead or get in particular: thank you for everything that LJ does for the pro-life movement. My question is, according to the ninth amendment, the eight enumeration of certain rights in the Constitution, shall not be construed to deny others that are retained by the people. Now, I would presume that those rights would include the right to life, that certain and self evident in the Declaration of Independence and comes from a higher authority. Our creator wires in the law of the lion Sir Bill are Jim and we get into this a lot. These are very specific questions that the certainly the left doesn't even want to consider when it comes.

These will what is life. When does life begin was like that always is a discussion. I feel like we've gone past that we've gotten past that. In terms of the legality of abortion rights of when life begins when it doesn't begin as we've always said technology was always going to be on the side of life that so those who claim still and I've seen it. Now if they were turned a little bit to the clump of cell argument which is bit odd when we all a lot of us now have seen it firsthand. I gradually love a large debate last night on Facebook which regular large debate discussing with people having different points of view. Some still go back to that it and yes sure that the Bill of Rights is correct, all life, your life, liberty, pursue happiness, all those things but it's not that simple specific comes to people who are aggressively pro-choice well and is a part of Justice Alito's decision did start to weigh in to some of those it didn't go fully to the personhood declaration run by the court, but it did get into that there is are currently leaving me to their competing rights.

At stake within this decision that it's not just the, the rights of the mother. There are also the rights of the unborn child as well. I also heard a pro-life activist they had on CNN that CNN posted this clip as though they owned Isar.

That is what I was like that's a really good, the coming of, I'm just a clump of cells myself like our bodies are made up of a clump of cells.

It still doesn't get away from the argument that at some point rights attached and that's what you have to has just like there's no one denies that a unique one and one-of-a-kind unique genetic code is created a conception right like that's just part of what's happening now and it's a little bit harder look I think a lot of people start conflating faith in your views on abortion.

I think that should play a part in my pro-life views certainly are art are dictated at least at least I would say at least this before I was a father were maybe dictated by my faith. However, as a father who went through a high-risk pregnancy with my wife right through pirate springs and went through with her and was monitored week to week and having premature children that by faith only plays a very small portion now into where I consider that the idea of the sanctity of life as I've seen it. I've been in those hospital rooms over and over and over again that does change your opinion on life and I think that happened with a lot of people on when partial-birth abortion became a open conversation, people start to see what it was and that became a bit more horrifying, and a lot of people but Geordie said okay. Maybe we've gone too far exceeded Lester in California are doing right in the and that is the argument that were seeing play out again is that there are states and the party, the Democrat party itself wants to go that far yet they want no restriction on the practice of abortion. They want restrictions on everything else that can be restricted except for that they wanted to go as far as possible. They don't even want restrictions on the operating rooms in the procedure itself. They want everything to be hands off approach when it comes to these procedures.

But with everything else in your life. They do want to be involved in the conversation of viability, whether at 16 weeks, 20 weeks 25 weeks when to me doesn't even way into part of the conversation at this point because the goat happy with that argument, I do when the wind is life and viable when you have a baby there. Born full term with a full-term baby does need medical assistance to that baby survive on its own. No, I'm pretty sure my kids. Maybe you forgot to be like the most gracious at like three could start you what they can fully speak and give advocate a little for themselves.

But until I'm pretty sure they need some kind of supervision and attention and to be fed and to be kept and to be cared for to be protected and taken to the doctor if needed. All of the given medicine. All of these things happened so viability of life is silliest argument to me at this point because then your say well it until something can fend for itself and that viability question. There, if you are to ignore ignore those responsibilities. The governments at your door immediately.

Say hey you're ignoring your many ideas right as saying that a Northam things happens we will get many ideas say well maybe baby three is the cutoff say that I do look at this point with today's news that we overturned essentially Supreme Court's in their five Dale decision I would be surprised that I will cheat and lie their way into anything they can to make sure this is protected of all things. Let's take the less you cause I really got two minutes of frantic one of them will do our best get the second ability while you're on the air quickly" alleviate like in the area is Obama's speech I have it and I have a phone.

Well, actually, the ruling relates back to the EPA rules that were under the Biden Obama Obama Biden administration and then present from changed things actually to make it more narrow and then there was a lawsuit to try to get it all clarified.

So yeah in the fact that when Pres. Obama was a lot more liberal yellow is with the way that he would conduct policy and yeah a lot of it does go back to that era when the EPA was taking things upon themselves to go a lot further than was enumerated in the statute by Congress. So that's a good point there bill you touched right on where it did all kind of start with that lawsuit is what I have to apologize to Joseph. Unfortunately, we just ran out of time you are on hold. The last least amount of times I feel the least bad but I still feel a little bad.

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