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Bombshell: Unsealed Docs Cast Doubt on Whether Flynn Prosecutor Complied with Court Order

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Bombshell: Unsealed Docs Cast Doubt on Whether Flynn Prosecutor Complied with Court Order

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Jay Sekulow it's a bombshell on the plane case new documents show noncompliance with the federal court order Washington DC we've been told by getting a lot more text messages between people of the FBI would expect that we get the original 302 and probably another draft and other documents that we know is completely exculpatory of the general who is unlike anyone else smaller prosecuted because they completely made up crimes against him. Phone lines are open for your questions right now: one 800-6843 10 that we have text messages that say that admit pretty much my interpretation and instruction page admitting the edited to her general Flynn is a true oh yes, they edited it completely. In fact, struck talks about trying to keep the previous agents voice and that he has edited it so much and now chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice Jay Sekulow project. You know every day new revelations and on the general Flynn matter, but really count cast doubts on the whole probe by Robert Muller, which to me is no surprise to someone that dealt with it for over really three years but that let me read the headline that Fox news has and will go to get into it. Flynn bombshell cast down a mold prosecutor's compliance with court orders the court order were talking about is called Brady material that is information you are required to disclose that would show the innocence or cast doubt on the defense.

The prosecution's case, I want to go to Andy, okay will go to Harry first Harry explain the Brady material at what is Brady material to disclose all purported material serious offense and one avoiding verdict against the defendant and it also in this reticular case suggested serious charges part of the law against the offending parties for you for their failure to comply with the lady Brady will the United States Supreme Court in Brady versus Maryland and Giglio versus the United States made it duty of all law enforcement agencies including prosecutors to provide any and all exculpatory material that would have a reasonable probability of altering the result in a trial or affecting the sentencing of the defendant. Material evidence means evidence that would likely change the outcome of the trial and the prosecutor must disclose such information to the defendant in a timely manner and this complication is workable.

The banks request the inflammation or not, but in the case.

The obligation has even greater way because Brandon banned quack, a Justice Department prosecutor former member of special counsel Robert Muller's team was under a court order to do an account that he failed to do so now you failed to do so. If you look at the timeline of what took place here. Here's the real outrage of this timeline so we know now that in January, the FBI said close the file. There is no violation by general Flynn and that's in early January. No case there doesn't need to go. Why did why did Van Brack is as Harry just said not why did he not tell the lawyers representing Flynn that there is exculpatory evidence that the FBI had concluded that there was no violation of the law. If the FBI still went in seeking answers to questions what they really weren't seeking answers to questions because we know that what we know that they were doing. We know that what they were doing was trying to get general Flynn to lie so they could either get a prosecuted or fired. That's in the handwriting of the priest irregularities here are unbelievable just getting into it would take your college reaction. All this 800-684-3110, 1-800-684-3110, then quickly Congress is back for a minute today Congress is back for a minute in jail. Tell you what this issue.

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Let me say this is what happened on January 4, there was a closing communication from the FBI Washington Field office, which recommended that the FBI close its investigation and Flynn. It's edited done exhaustive searches through government databases." Did not yield any information which the predicate further investigative efforts. Now Harry that should've been something that was released to the court and to Flynn's lawyers Eric you had met it.

Brady obligation and it is clear beyond question. Given the newly released information that was untrue.

It's also important to note that on January 4. After the Washington field office recommended closing the investigation of plan struck intervene. Then on January 20 17 Pres. Obama, VP Biden FBI director collimated national security advisor Rice then Deputy Atty. Gen. Sally H in the Oval Office to discuss Russian interference in the 2016 election and it seems to me, one can infer that there was an affirmative effort to attempt to implicate the trunk campaign is important to note that the ACLJ we have long railed against the state in October 2019.

You wrote a blog post called criminalizing the execution of United States Constitution. Last month I wrote a blog post on the collapsing credibility of the deep state with respect to foreign intelligence court warrants this game unfortunately has been going on years and I think we are only beginning to see how the this conspiracy. If I can call it that goes in terms of the FBI and the intelligence community, and that raises a further question which is what has Christopher what Ray the current FBI director been doing, why hasn't he uncovered this information. Why is it left to drive to essentially investigate the FBI and so there are lots and lots of questions that need to be answered. It's interesting to me. Also I think this is actually a look at and say what was going on here with the FBI knew that the field office a close investigation. A general Flynn Bennett Cepeda struck engages it says don't close objects called crossfire razor that was the specific information investigation against general Flynn don't close that when yet even though the FBI field office said they wanted it baked.

They were nothing there. They had no derogatory information. It should be closed.

Then there's email exchanges were Peter Strauch again was on Bob Muller's team, as was the prosecutor who prosecuted general Flynn Peter Strauch says the seven floors getting involved Andy when they say the 74 seven floors getting involved. You have to dig very deep.

That's not deep state that the leadership of the people that run the FAI romances. The counterintelligence to leave the executive branch of the executive branch of the FBI and their getting involved so so back off, so he was getting his instructions from there. Of course he was getting his direction.

From there, and he was telling them. Do not close the investigation of general Flynn.

We want to continue to look at him to see what we can get on them and then you have the notes that are taken by please step which says very clearly trying to get him to admit tell the truth if not getting the lie, and then whatever we can do. Let's get him fired from office severely maltreated individual still missing in all of this are the original 302's the FBI notes those mysteriously haven't been produced here for general Flynn's larceny to say about that. We still don't have the original 302. We know there's another draft from the Strauch page text messages and from Covington were still trying to get Eric Holder and Michael Chertoff's emails the phone records and possible text messages among the Covington lawyers themselves discussing general Flynn and also any communications between Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch or Sally Yates about the Flynn matter so we have not even seen the beginning of the document production that we also have on Mayport yesterday a letter from James Jim Jordan. What is that mean thing what is he saying will really follows on the soundbite that you display J because like if a if a field office communication shutting down a case was not deemed exculpatory information that should be turned over then. What else might be out there, that wasn't turned over. That's what Jim Jordan, the ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee wants to know he and Mike Johnson who is the ranking member of the subcommittee on the Constitution, wrote a letter to director what Ray interstate was direct J is an understatement.

They run through a litany of the timeline that you just talked about all of the missteps of the FBI leading up to this most recent version where the case closure from the Washington field office wasn't disclosed. They demand all documents related to those communications J in a number of different ways into things that really stand out to me in this letter. They also want to know if this went beyond the FBI if it went to the Oval Office to the President of the United States and J. Secondly, they asked for our interviews with two people who we discussed at length on this broadcast especially the first one the first one is Bill pre-Stapp, who was the director counterintelligence had to sign off on the opening of these investigations that it's it's shocking to me. J that that interview has not yet happened. They wanted to happen now and the second one is FBI agent Joe Pentz Is that J that's the other agent that went over to the White House with Peter Strauch to interview general Flynn.

Can you imagine that agent still has not been interviewed by the United States Congress. Now Jim Jordan wants to interview low should certainly happen fast doesn't do it. I know the Senate will and I think there's another aspect of this I could say what in the world with Bob Muller doing what in the world was Bob Muller doing as the special counsel in charge of all this, who was running this operation, it was not Bob Muller that became obvious wasn't so sure about using GPS who they really weren't that wasn't really clear about the new Nelly or Bruce or in the relation their diffusion GPS and who might've been working for home and allowed the phones of Strauch and page to get wiped clean. Here's what that was also interesting Bob Muller's lawyers and that's what I'm to call him Bob Muller's lawyers went to federal court and certified that the conduct in communications with Russia went to the heart of the inquiry that they were engaged in the false statements that allegedly took place in the FBI on January 24 and they were absolutely material that was the alligator that was the interview with Strauch and the other FBI agent but by that time. By February 25 January 24, the FBI had actually cleared.

This is important folks field office are declared. Flynn and Strauch knew it, but insisted on sending they wanted him out and then you got the notes from precept so I I look at this. Harry and I say to myself, where was Bob Muller in this investigation and the irregular. I could list the irregularities, but we only get an hour of airtime, so I can't do that, but it does tell you how bad this is one of the log whether or not Bob Muller laws while he was special counsel actually awake because if he was awake and he will indeed competent. He should have prevented much of this misconduct, but apparently Bob Muller has allowed his incompetence now to the front pages and so in addition to going after Bob Muller's competence going after Peter Strauch going after joking. We should also consider the conduct and I would argue the misconduct of general Flynn's original legal team and so the question comes up whether or not Covington Burlington whether Eric Holder was indeed in communication with former Obama is if there was a comment on the quality of legal representation are my comments, but let me just say this that I think Cindy Powell is looking at all of that and try to find out who did what to whom I want to know your reaction to this as now the stem understand why this information coming out folks right you get it.

There's an investigation going on.

It's really deep you been saying what can happen is anything that ever happened. It's happening right before your eyes.

Now, love. It's not before your eyes, like 95% of talk about what is the process it's going on here. What is his tail.

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Thank you, are not well this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing, member today ACLJ. Yes, everyone. So a quick update so more information is coming out Cindy Powell doing a great job representing general Flynn. This shows you the fraud that was engaged in by the Muller team on the qualities Bob Muller's lawyers, but most lawyers do not give exculpatory evidence to when steam including the fact that the FBI field office that was actually investigating cleared. It's called Brady material Harry Hutchison earlier define what that means. And if you turn over Brady material when your US attorney. What would happen to you.

Trouble with the court. First of all, in contempt of court for not doing it. It would make the prosecution a nullity. It would create.

Problem for the US attorney's office if I didn't do it but I mean is fundamental J you do it you don't even think about it. It's natural. It's what a prosecutor is obligated to do. Impeaching material and credibility material under Giglio versus United States, and exculpatory and exonerated material under Brady you do that because that's part of your job they did not do it here. So what should be the penalty. No prosecution. The court should vacate the play vacate the conviction and the United States Attorney at the direction of his boss, the Atty. Gen. should this matter that K people are saying you know he deserves a partner and so forth that he deserves is not happened, as he deserves is not to happen. I think the fact that this happened to the problem.

I want to go to Stan Bennett here because Jim Jordan has written a rather lengthy letter and I want to discuss what that letter means let's first do this let's first take a call and let's take let's take Mary Alice is called in California she's on my three hi Mary Alice question for you on January 2017, when Obama open communication between all 17 agencies deal with them wanting to come right out all the links are getting out and they wanted to confuse. Where do you think you were coming from and by opening up all the agency night. I don't know how you feel about that. The Obama ministration concert for eight years.

In the last 18 days of their administration may decide now's the time to open up his classified material to 18 different agencies meet then you and I talked about that a lot.

Yeah I J they change the rules when they were going to have to abide by then I may look this is an information information sharing decision at the Trump administration could have rightly engaged in and maybe they would ask decided that some of these agency should have the information at the bottom line is J the administration.

It was can have to live under the guidelines should have made the decision, merely the Obama administration didn't want to live under those rules to they didn't change the rule until they were leaving office. But J, I actually think this ties directly into the question that you ask leading into that call, which is why is Jim Jordan now pursuing this information and I think it gets to a very specific point he wants to know, and we should all want to know who had this inner this information in the intervening period and did not provided you had some conversation earlier about an advocate J that may be a conversation that can be had. But here's what I'm concerned about if a government official had them and did not turn them over that is in the direct interest of the American people and let me tell you to people who I know had been the FBI had them jump director Connie Andrew McCabe, Peter Strock, and guess who else the special counsel because these notes handwritten notes from Bill Preece fact the acting director of counterintelligence their stamped with SCO. They are the special office. Why were they not in the public over these last what two-year tell you why didn't want any of this information out you realize they were still conducting an investigation of the present states on Russia collusion well after this, when they knew it was false. They try to do it. He would try to set me. We knew this was it.

You know when they were trying to interview the present.

I said it over and over again perjury trap was a perjury trap and any effort to interview the President which we severely reduce. And rightly so, what have put them in the snare of a perjury trap to try to get him to do exactly what they were wanting Flynn to do get him to lie and try to get him evicted from office.

The one thing I want is is in Jim Jordan's letter. Why are we getting this information from the court.

Why are we not getting it from Chris Ray at the FBI that's that's that's a question that everybody there is serious perform carried needs to take place at that agency.

No question about absolutely. And it needs to start at the top to the investigation.

We need serious accountability agents in my judgment, at least posted still have their job to be fired and some of these agents. To the extent that they've engaged in criminal activity.

They need to be prosecuted. I think at the end of the day. One of the underlying reasons behind the impeachment of Pres. was to get him out of office before his Atty. Gen. completed his investigation of deep state actors and some of the investigation more likely than not implicates former Obama administration officials and in addition I would point out Adam was aware at least to some extent of the depth of the misconduct and he is currently heavily sitting on testimony that he slowly, so sorry to put all of this together and if you look at what we have been saying for the last three years. I think it is clear beyond question that the Obama administration via the former officials of the Justice Department officials of the Justice Department, including Princeton, or they all have steak and continuing to hide information from the courts and from the American people and clear beyond question that they have hidden information on the bicycle, we know that the court recognized that but here's the thing talks.

This was my life for 3 1/2 years and here we are now finding out.

This is just like this impeachment proceeding total charade. Adam Schiff hazards documents. Those transcripts, he voted to release the money was in the minority and families now running the committee doesn't want to release them figure it will be good because, among other things, they include testimony from FBI agents who found Michael Flynn to be truthful. That would be rather damaging to his narrative that those got out in the public right now so I completely agree with Harry on that. I look J. One of the things that Jim Jordan requester. I think request is probably putting into nicely demands in this letter is the director Roy explained to the committee and the American people why they are learning of the FBI's misconduct with respect to general Flynn from court filings.

Rather, from then from him and I think J when he says that from him.

He means from the FBI. We don't know exactly what's going on behind the scenes at the FBI about what he is 100% correct on this, no matter who inside the FBI had control of these documents. J there was an obligation to turn them over, not just for one man who had his reputation ruined. That would be bad enough, J.

The domino effect of investigations that this set often allowed to continue. Unbelievable. It is unbelievable. We have 30 more minutes. It's broadcast like you don't pull our Sirius XM most of the stations was a seal J.org Facebook periscope encouraging other. This is just the beginning when plugged me the rest of the timeline.

This is unreal. Folks, the corruption that was going on a seal J allows us to bring you this broadcast every single day, five days a week TV radio right into your home support worker. The ACLJ data will be back more ACLJ on the frontlines protecting your freedoms and rights in court in Congress and in the public arena.

The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work, member today ACLJ live from Washington DC Jay Sekulow and counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice Jay Sekulow legal team and that's what I recall; my mother's legal team did not turn over Brady material to general Flynn's counsel into the court.

What is Brady material exculpatory evidence, some of exculpatory evidence included this, that in fact the FBI concluded its investigation of general Flynn in the field office and determined there was in fact no violation of the law. Nothing derogatory. The field office recommended closing its investigation into Flynn interaction with Russian government Strock intervened on the same day and to prevent the closure.

Noting to a colleague that senior FBI leaders were involved.

The fact that the FBI agents actually investigated Flynn. The real investigation of Flynn said no case should be the end of case, but they wanted what we know what we know, because Bill precepts notes say what is our goal.

What is our goal. Truth basically confession didn't lie so we can at least get him fired if not prosecuted. That was the goal get them out. They prosecuted Bob Muller's team prosecuted. The sky remember they were called the war they called the was it was the All-Star team and the superstars is one article that said had listed all of the you know lawyers that Bob Muller had brought him and his team against the President and it was you know the superstars and with Rabbi Victor David Hanson against the nobodies were the nobodies worked out pretty well for the nobodies hasn't been working out so well for the superstars is a real problem on their hands right now. I think general Flynn and he is just the beginning of their problem currently unilaterally our order are now in order and why was it general plan that they were so anxious to target of all the people. Why was the plan, and they were taking and I keep saying that as they were taking their cue from Obama who said I am not man of is that King had spoken the Emperor had spoken he had made his will known in the FBI, deep state, which is doors Obama and is so indebted to him for his greatness in the community leadership said that the guys that were going to target and were going to get. I think that the things from my head down. Let's start yesterday.

How could senior people in the FBI engage in this kind of obstructive conduct.

If it doesn't read all the elements of obstruction of justice comes pretty darn close. But at a minimum it shows they were out to catch general Flynn to get general Flynn.

They were they were not only out to get general Flynn try to take down the President of the United States.

Let's be clear what this is about. This was a takedown attempt of the President of United States and I don't care if you're Republican or Democrat, an independent Green party having bureaucrats in the FBI try to undo election would benefit the set by Congress to put their constitutional authority under the impeachment clause in the case obviously was acquitted, but realize what transpired here realize what was it riskier was at risk, the reconstitution of the United States. The separation of powers equal justice under the law. The rule of law that is what was put at risk by Bob Muller's lawyers, let alone not providing exculpatory evidence of someone falsely accused of a crime while Andrew Wiseman and others want to defend themselves for their conduct. The ultimate victory will be to general Flynn and ultimately the American people, multiple lines of damp 800-684-3110, 1-800-684-3110 will take your calls and forgets what working a seal J ACLJ.org with your friends challenges facing Americans for substantial time and are now freedoms our constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice on the frontlines protecting your freedoms and rights in court in Congress and in the public exceptional track record of success. The bottom line we could not do her work. We remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms that remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you.

Well, this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ.org where you can learn more about our life-changing, member today ACLJ only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable voice. Is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying the American Center for Law and Justice defend the rights of life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn will show you how you personally teach and includes all major ACLJ were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications 40 years later, when Obama care means many ways your membership is empowering the right question free copy of mission life today online/technical 800-684-3110. The innocence of general Flynn about to be established really has been the FBI decided in February for that same year that they want to interview later that there was no derogatory information, a violation of the location be closed right to oppose a lot. Many combos with this Harry Hutchins is with us then, but it's in our studio, so we get to this in the studio was remote, still practicing social distancing. Hope you are as well and doing whatever your states are telling you to do, but let's go ahead and take the call at double to Dave Ohio. He's online five day booking broadcast, you're on their thanks very much for your work and I don't know where would be without question has my question has to do with. It seems apparent that the prosecution is the one that is determining exculpatory evidence and Brady material and if you have a corrupt prosecution that you have a result like this. What can we do to solve that problem.

Problem Dave is being solved itself when I say itself that Cindy Powell was Lord done a great job in trying to get this information, but then Andy from a practical standpoint, the process will go forward, but should lead to his exoneration. That is the guilty plea withdrawn in the case dismissed.

That's what ultimate victory will be here exactly right. What happened ultimate ultimately is something else to do but the play should be withdrawn.

The conviction vacated and the debtor and the prosecutor wrote, but then I'm looking forward to a civil rights jog by general Flynn under 1983, and a criminal investigation under the federal criminal Civil Rights Act under title 18 against these malefactor you mentioned earlier that includes the lawyers on bon mots Bob Muller's lawyers should be included in that list. They engage in malfeasance or worsen malfeasance violations of the law or court orders, and we should seek to go up the chain. As far as possible, and to the extent that we can uncover documentary evidence that incriminate Bob Muller and Wiseman and anyone else we should also go after them because this violation of general claims, civil rights, his constitutional rights cannot continue. In other words, the agent and the officials in the prosecutor's office and in the FBI basic serious repercussions because we need to send a signal deep within the FBI deep within the Justice Department can remember happened again. I think the real problem has been with senior leadership at the FBI and to some extent senior leadership within the Justice Department. So if you look at groups or if you look at James. Call me if you look at anchor McKay what are we talking about. We are talking about senior officials who have engaged in my opinion, conduct, and then you have a lower level prosecutor Brandon van Gogh act, affirming that they have provided all material to connect general plan called mother's team was called the dream team. That's what was the dream team against the nobodies dream team actually. Our nightmare was about to say the same thing here. It sounds like you said it's turning out to be a nightmare but for them as President was exonerated. Flynn is going to be exonerated. Who knows who else is to be exonerated and prosecution same made George Papadopoulos what they get in for me, $40 million for that I may sit out on the floor the Senate this for that ridiculous all set ups now.

Jim George taken a real look at this.

So is Lindsay Graham yes six page letter from Jim Jordan on the heels of an announcement by Sen. Rand that he is to be looking in addition, J. Let me just boil it down to this.

I mean our very way of government, our very way of law enforcement depends on having integrity at the top of these institutions that we entrust this power with in a J we discussed this on this broadcast before but a lot of people are asking the question, why would Peter Strock think that he can overrule a field office in and I gotta tell you JI think that the answer to that is very simple, it's because he looked at his boss director James Comey and he saw James call me doing the exact same thing intentionally leaking memos to advance a political narrative and then J the sound that we had just a couple of days ago laughing about the fact that he ignore the pursuit of truth, he ignored procedure. I just sent a couple of guys over to see what I can get away with.

Ha ha ha Jake there was a culture problem at the FBI and honestly I think that's what Lindsay Graham and Jim Dorner after the most that has got to change. Let's go to line 1 marks calling from Alabama. Mark will broadcast on their possible that Bob Muller was helpful because it would be seen as a credible, nonpartisan, but would be mostly a figurehead while purchasing mostly Democrat lawyers possibly led by someone else would carry out the real intent. Yes, that's an answer because I think when we meet with any four times. Maybe the course and the caller is absolutely right what they wanted to do was to pick someone that with the James Madison figure by John Adams figure who is going to stand up there with his great seniority and is great gravity and the fact that he was a colonel in the Marine Corps and he was head of the FBI and he was basically going to do that. I hope I'm not disclosing anything, but in the meeting. He didn't do very much today must disclose light, so that takes more call so we can gobble to" lesson as well. 800-684-3110. Let me go to line to Terry's calling from your carrier on their appreciate you guys you know I support you each month I tell you that our country thank you everything I pray God is with him the other day I was looking down anything that awful nonsense they did, but nobody's gonna be prosecuted for it. I don't think that's true. You got a guy named John Durham, a former US attorney for Connecticut who was a tough prosecutor is going where the evidence leads.

I believe people will be held accountable.

It takes time.

We been to. I know it's hard understand that actually takes time to do this so I'm I'm pretty convinced were to see we will see some justice here and you takes time your prosecutor need to explain it to people. It takes time to put the evidence together get the charges up and put it all together and in the middle that you got a pandemic going on a ride.

The country is in disarray because of the black. But when you don't throw prosecutor together overnight. It takes the painstaking effort of putting together witness interviews, documents, and pacing the puzzle together and coming up with a coherent prosecution that you present before a grand jury with a lengthy indictment and you've got to corroborate your evidence you got to make it all stick. You gotta have it all together and it takes time. I know it's frustrating you think it's never going to be done it will make an interesting comment on this. I think it's worth because it talks about how you have to do. This is from the Atty. Gen. United States Nicholas building these cases, especially sprawling case. We have between us. It went on for two or three years here.

Take some time to build to build the case so he's diligently pursuing my own view is that the evidence shows that dealing with just mistakes or sloppiness there something far more troubling here to get to the bottom of it and if people broke the law and we can establish that with the evidence prosecuted is the job of a prosecutor. That's what they're supposed to do and I believe folks that is what is happening. You just all of us need to let the system.

Software Bill Barr is the most credible person in our government to handle something like this. He's tremendously gifted is a brilliant lawyer, brilliant strategist and a tremendous administrator is to run the Department of Justice largest law firm in the world a dozen incredible job of doing that the FBI needs cleanup from the top and bottom. There's obviously still issues Nana. Maybe it's getting better.

I hope it is under Chris Ray.

But I made approval be the putting some of these agents that some of them we can name the specific Strock page McCabe. Some of the lawyers Baker similar counterintelligence experts by precept.

They were up to no good and clearly no good to get away with not going to get away with was like the IRS you know it took us three years to get just three years of litigation fighting the government, not the government examining itself fighting the government and we prevailed three is to do.

It's another. This happens overnight, is owed to the American people certainly help to general fluid in the present, that's for sure. But all of us. It's our Constitution.

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Well this perfect time to stand with us ACLJ.where you can learn more about her life changing, member today ACLJ Jim Jordan say about what he wants to play this again. We played once by waving played once.

Okay, good. So this is what he wants. He sent a letter out. That's looking for at first about the letter, the cost and the letter is basically request for what to six page letter requesting a couple of things likely six things J but most importantly he wants interviews with Bill priest at in this agent the test that question.

General Flynn pin. He also wants all of the documents in this. J including the documents that related to the executive office of the President so maybe involving Barack Obama leading up to this time.

And he wants it before May 18. I just think this is particularly important because Adam Schiff is sitting on evidence that says the questioning of Gen. Flynn. They found him to be truthful so he wants to bring in agent Panca and ask him directly.

That's the crux of the letter is what gyres would represent a door not a site where the documents 302 that was changed.

We want to talk to the agents who were there when interviewed Mike Flynn and why they change that to give us the documents, let us talk to Mr. Pinker, the guy who was in the room with Peter Strock when interviewed Mike Flynn.

That's what we want to see. We gave until it May 18.

Let's all forget that information should have a long time ago.

By the 18th Lucy Messerschmidt, New Age treatment transversely people call Bruce from about as online.

Six. Bruce glad I know that we got over that whole thing about Gen. Flynn. My question is 112, it had no bearing on anything and Gen. Flynn was forced to take a bad plate of fruit of the poisonous tree fall. There were basically your entire investigation is now gone fallow the illegal to anything past that point is now should be irrelevant mentioned in general when just get a clean slate clean slate. No question will be because of the doctrine of the fruit of the poisonous tree or prosecutorial misconduct, and your both little bit of both.

Currently, anything that would derive from the Flynn prosecution should be suppressed because it is the fruit of the poisonous tree under the long-term decision and furthermore that is prosecutorial misconduct in the prosecutor who did this should be sanctioned should be discipline in some cases even disbarred for violating the most fundamental precept that a prosecutor have doing justice giving exonerated material giving material that impacts on credibility to the side and not simply hiding that information, and to other things about Jim Jordan's letter that we really ought to mention explain the director Ray why we are not getting this information from the FBI why we're getting it from the court. Chris Ray has exclamation to do J okay, this is serious stuff. Marines calling on line 3 from Indiana Marina on their actually like Terry 1230 and that the correction that was going on and I like that going on and how we may question how do we make our voices heard and isn't being brushed under the rug. There is a full investigation going on my US attorney a couple of US attorneys actually better investigating the Flynn case separately in the entire roster probe so it's being looked at top to bottom. So I think in that sense you know it's going to take time, but I think the answers it's not to be years or months. I think we will have it working to have real answers here. I don't think the answers and be anything other than what we expect corruption up and down the system. Unfortunately, unfortunately for the American people reportedly for the ones that were caught up in this let's do this is go to Daniels calling a New Mexico line for Daniel. Go ahead. In my because my question is it possible for the court to McDonagh right Michael Flynn after all this that come about. So this is an interesting question. Does Gen. Flynn entered a plea negotiation because they were threatening us on basically PT enters a plea, the FBI does not turn over this exonerating Brady material is evidence and then the question becomes what happens next.

I think it's a three-step process all of the furred and the unblemished.

This I would understand it. First thing is this materials come to light. So now you got it to a motion to withdraw the plea with the court's order simply withdrawn and then three would be the Department of Justice deciding to not know process to not prosecute any right that you are right, exonerating take the burden off of you to take the player why you think the conventional way you remove it and of course he has never been sentenced, and then you simply expunge the record and say this never happened. That's the best you're going to get in exoneration and this is a good judge to do it. He does not suffer fools gladly understand.

His reputation is very good and I think he's on to something I do this response. Let's go to Pam's calling on line 1 Pam I shall tell time to run out of time because they're such an obvious coup care and we only have until November and I think the regular election like crazy so that Cobb doesn't get more out of block and the other thing they wanted to close on time. There has been some election irregularities. Already we had the situation, Wisconsin. My colleague will constantly Patrick Strawbridge from the consulate McCarthy firm handled that allowing Terry balance to be dated after the election. Springboard said you can't do that here, election integrity in the United States Supreme Court in the number of cases, including Purcell versus Gonzales and including the Wisconsin case have emphasized, election integrity, you can't change the date of the other into the out there of course is being moved by some individuals to push Laura Mayo in loading or Internet and there are huge problems with that in the sense that those two approaches are subject to potential fraud. So rear real clear politics. I had let it investigation plan spends mailing voting over the last 6 to 7 years and is found that the Bentley 20 to 25% of the votes were either never received or not fully come. So if that is true of these initiatives to move toward mailing voting and or online voting, but they are hugely problematic and I think the sender things are right to be very wary of these initiatives and it is clear beyond question that the Democrats are pushing these initiatives throughout fun times that like to do this week and 20 seconds to turn the judges. I think the houses actually can focus on this issue NJ if I can just leave you with one hope what you need to prosecute a case you need prosecutor what is John Durham adding to his team is adding prosecutors exactly the rest exactly that's what's up. I folks in one week from today will be arguing some important United States right out here in a row over their actually show the podium with the right way for sure. There is look like you know what my grandkids say so. I have a great day work they sell tape report make ACLJ on the front lines protecting your rights in court in Congress and the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing, member today seeing okay