The Economic Impact of the Pandemic

Jay Sekulow live the impacts of COBIT 19 on the American people as the stimulus goes live today online course, partisan Democrats on Capitol Hill starting yet another which he talked about at all today on Jay Sekulow.

Long live from Washington DC. Phone lines are your questions right now. Obviously today with economic numbers out to get into some of those details were also to have another one of those state official briefings are this time out of Ohio later just to talk to officials in Florida would talk to officials of West Virginia were talk to someone Ohio as well who work in the legislative aspect of this at the state level to give because of these overviews this week of what it's like not just federally the state level.

But listen to militant that the hard fact got nearly 10 million Americans who file for unemployment in the last two weeks alone. The payroll plunge is 700,000 people in March and that is just kind of snapshot that doesn't give you the full scope is again we know the unemployment is is more like 10 million who were filing the unemployment rate as of right now is it already. 4.4% predicting that's be at 15% and maybe even as high as 30% as this goes on. Now the stimulus programs go live today online so it SBA.gov. The loan programs there's always issues with these first start summer ready yet with banks that are balking at this and show should you be laying off your employees instead of trying to get the loan to keep them on payroll and all those questions yes owed some of the banks are trying to give advice to their clients and to the company's and you know you be better off.

Even though this sounds like a good package you would be better off limiting your exposure by laying off personnel which is not exactly the opposite of what were trying to deal with the stimulus so but I think you got understand that there is this thought out there that exists that that would be the safer approach for some businesses. Now some businesses already done it.

You think the number was 130,000 for Macy's cold was 80,000.

There was another big box retailer that just announced, and I think this is the reality of what we is kind of the moment. We live in sweet businesses have to make these decisions yourself. I think the goal should be to try to maintain personnel.

I may, I keep saying the job as a CEO waiting for us here is to to work hard on everything you do but try to protect your employees as well because you don't want this ripple effect in the economy and were hopeful that we get through this and get past this. Over the same.

The next you know three months or so and then things will get some sense of whatever the new normal is Jan I was just checking this morning, unlike on the Supreme Court.

They still have on the docket this the sisters case so that the April arguments are still listed as arguing and you know that's not happening. The upcoming national suit they need to issue an order that says look for those up as he did this for us in March.

That's only the second day of April, but these arguments aren't to three weeks less than three weeks is give the lawyers know that are preparing for this the realities. I cannot imagine this report.

Sitting on April 20. Now I me to say this is this the difficulty in Washington DC said they are still balking at that trying to change the way they vote to their say the sentences were to keep the way we know more legislation is likely coming.

I will will need to come to fill holes that were in the initial legislation also on infrastructure and in the legislative items like that us as we take people's questions they wanted hundred 64, 31 to Washington on Congress is trying to work the same old way you a lot of resistance to change is Jordan and I feel the same way that your dad does about these jammin look this is reality they're going to come back on April 20 and and not you know their say and that's when around fours can be necessary. Jordan is not going to be safe. On April 40 on April 24 for both of those chambers to be filled with 535 members of Congress. They are going to have to face reality and find a way to make these changes and do their work remotely.

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Every dollar makes a difference stand with the ACLJ today support our work online ACLJ Jay Sekulow live caretaker phone calls 164, 31 to 20. Roberts called Marilyn online one present is use the language again a witch hunts that more political hoaxes even during this time in our country in the whole world is going through facing this pandemic. The economic consequences.

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Of course, politics rears its ugly head and partisanship. Robert calling for Marilyn. Luckily Jay Sekulow live your on their I typically deal with that the Democrats are engaging again against Pres. Crump be motivating, particularly during the time of the national crisis, such as the pandemic of the coronavirus. This would be the third molar report. It's a way to actually Value for really immunity to vice moment. So what there's two committees let out rain and now that's enough that at this dish to committees they want. Nancy Pelosi wants one that would have to be voted on by the house. By the way, they have to prove the select committee she wants it led by Jim Clyburn way endorsed Joe Biden so he's directly. Velasquez said yes and it Clyburn who said that you take advantage of the moment like this yet. And this way you can get things you want to reshape the concept of a pandemic's quote gives the Democrats quote a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision. This committee would overlook how the spending was done because they've got some concerns about the corporate side of the spending which is actually the smaller side of this.

The stimulus I returned with the big corporations that Adam Schiff once a second committee. Of course, focusing on the intelligence side. That would mean him right to look at this when the pandemic is over.

As I said because I think most the belief present tribes still get reelected and they will like to they would like to try and figure out a way to impeach him again.

Keep hitting about an hour. There is not a joke. I see that is a direct move to try and come up with another reason to pass articles of impeachment is present trouble if Democrats retain control of the house after the November elections.

Let's do this. I'd like to get Harry Hutchison is always a director policies, law and economics professor Harry Beckford: in your sense of where the economy is right now. Well the economy in a bit of all, yesterday we got news that employers were cutting and an additional 700,000 jobs in March, the unemployment rate is expected to jump up to between 12 and 16% by this summer. This could mean that the United States will have lost almost 28 million jobs. Perhaps by the end of May of this year. Second, stocks have ended their worst quarter in 12 years and this is a global phenomenon, as investors indiscriminately delete assets ranging from stocks to commodities, including an extremely sharp decline in oil prices while the market has been marked by extreme volatility. Third, as central banks led by the bad have been forced into emergency interventions designed to boost liquidity and credit markets.

The yield on the benchmark it 10 year treasury note, which affects everything from mortgage rates to student loans fell by 1.2 percentage points to 0.7% over the course of this past quarter things I thought about because banks are already mentioned this earlier. Some banks are advising their clients to not take the stimulus package because that by having to continue their operations to meet the requirements of that the loan actually is basically becomes a grant you have to do certain things, including keep employment, keep operations, there are banks and only to doing this in a dishonest way advising their clients at that may not be in their best interest.

Taking the money for the short term may not serve the long-term interest to bring this position for say six months. I think that is true in part because some of the guns in the cares act suggest that the forgiveness provisions will only apply to money spent during the first eight weeks of alone.

Secondly, the employers in order to receive forgiveness.

They have to maintain their staffing and compensation levels, and so there are some provisions which would be triggered by the cares which would make it impossible to recoup or forgive the loan, meaning that these businesses would still be on the clock so that is propelling.

I believe some employers to go ahead or go the provisions of the cares and lay off employees.

In addition, of course, there's always bureaucracy which can impede and delay the advancement of the funds that people are flying floor as we speak so early this morning by about 830. Several hundred million dollars worth of loans were already being processed and probably by the end of today. The amount of the loans process will exceed perhaps several million dollars.

The other thing that I would suggest is the large banks have not necessarily been passed down right under the as the smaller banks and so that is another impediment to getting these funds out.

There's another issue I'm talking to companies CEOs of various industries.

Medical technical host and what they're saying is I tended to disagree with this but I think his industry-specific. I think immediate goal is to try to get through the next eight weeks. Right try to get through the next eight weeks of keeping your employees in place and in doing that.

There are some industries that were hurting before this. For instance, Macy's retail sector Boeing that they have to restructure and I think even with some of the smaller businesses. The banks are saying you're about to do this but you really need to be restructuring yet restructuring, I mean possibly even filing a bankruptcy after rescanning a restructured programming and those are going to be.

Also Harry that likely this is going to be a good time to do that and that that the bank is more involved in those kind of programs and so I got these the question what we have these questions, and I think we should go to to the question people asking about this to be so for instance, Susan West Virginia online to Susan Walker Jay Sekulow live here on the air probably will never realize how important your work and cabinetry and we are a parent, ground-based or organization for hypothetical County that we have a nonprofit apply for the EA loan which could turn into a grant that somewhere Neolithic church is to be 20 payroll around 19 and they put in our area we have to cancel our competition that we have basically what find our program is employees now director and she works at a school trip down. Technically she's the only employee everything out parent the way I see at the top because it's the idea here is to keep people in personnel. The fact that you're not to be able to do fundraising while side I really hate that.

That's happened that's not what this is designed to protect that a couple of things date the first of offer for the loans to convert to grants that are forgiven. They do have to be used for qualified expenses payroll mortgage interest, rent payments, leases, utility service agreements.

You definitely want to make that calculation J.

I do think it's really important to address the site. I think some businesses are being scared away from taking these loans because they think that there can have to keep employees a lot longer then the coverage allows for J that's not how it's gonna work there gonna take this loan.

There you have to keep employees on for eight weeks at the end of those eight weeks, which is what the funds are meant to cover that loan will be forgiven at that point Jay at that time. I think there will be additional stimulus.

Additional support available but if they're not the business can then make a decision after that point to shift course and want people to be prematurely scared away from taking this assistance. I think it's actually been thought out in a pretty good fashion there. Whenever a professor had to rely calls on assignment. How about Prof. Hutchison stay on with us for the next segment, but I would tell you something that that this is you know I've advised a lot of big corporations over my career and practice still do and these are tough decisions. These are really hard decisions, but I think with NSAID is right. Let's focus right now in the next two weeks. Let's focus on the next two weeks. If your company qualifies for this package and you can keep your employees unemployed, employed that will help the country. Overall in this pandemic. Then at the end of that to two months.

Rather, at the end of that two months, then lets you know like dance at either there will be some additional benefits for their well-being and that when you make the decisions, but I know that's hard. I think we gotta be.

I don't think we can be planning six months out right now. I don't think that that's the case if you got a plan for survival. Right now you two months and is it week. You can do with the government says and then kind of reassess from their think that's an answer back to the base is hates an eight week period. This loan becomes grant and then we can reassess from there and again we were in father's close is this rollout gives a to hear from you as well. If you're applying loans. How is the system working for you will be right back on@againalmostaclj.org about new case in Ohio on these abortion clinics are trying to stay open is essential businesses. We are filing their Sixth Circuit a field for 30 years the American Center for Law and Justice has been dedicated to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms because of you seen great success in the courts and Congress concerning the issues that matter most to you and your families ACLJ, chief counsel Jay Sekulow are decades long commitment to the Constitution and the rule of law is at the center of everything we do. The bottom line artwork cannot take place without your generous support now more than ever during this time of uncertainty. ACLJ consider making a gift online@aclj.org. Donating online is safe and secure, and an online gift can be put to work enabling the ACLJ to continue the battle against the portion giant Planned Parenthood to protect Christians facing persecution and so much more.

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Now they do qualify. They will be getting paid filing taxes making less than the threshold stimulus checks and you might be getting that to Clint so that check.

It also is available to use that that the AF $1200 and then you is there anything there Harry anything in this for Clint took to keep Jessica continue to pay rent circuit to pay his mortgage while disclosed that under the care that small businesses can include mortgage payments. Payment of interest on any covered mortgage obligations, payments of rent payments on utility. For instance, those things are clobbered potentially with respect to the loan program as part of the paycheck protection program and so I would urge him to look into that either through the SBA, which is probably inundated today with local panic yet yeah Jay. I just wanted people to understand that they did reason that this is a tiered approach, there's the stimulus checks which just about everybody gets others. The small business ministration was to try to keep people on payroll and then there's the dramatic expansion of the unemployment insurance for people that aren't able to be kept on payroll at Jade that the intention was never that everybody would get all three of those components, but they were layered in their so that everyone would get something to try to try to ease the pain here. So just because you don't qualify in 1 Particular Pl. I want people to understand that they were layered and said that you would get something in one faction or another. So don't be discouraged if you don't get one piece of it. There's another piece of it probably does apply to you. I let's go ahead and try to get another call and not to ski Gary staying with us right now.

We continue to cycle time in California just in question online for Tomahawk Jay Sekulow live your on the air. Thank you very much. I need your help the local broadcasters the TV broadcasters in Southern California are interrupting and discontinuing the Washington briefing from the task force on the coronavirus so it prevents me in particular from getting first-hand information as to what's going on in this national crime you have cable, no I do not I do not have cable and I do not have Internet and I do not have a smart phone. I'm talking on a flip phone. Okay because C-SPAN is covering him top to bottom.

But what's happening is the networks and even the cable networks, including Fox are staying there for a little longer.

Pulling out. I made it back before going back and forth and that's where were you getting the briefings before on your local TV yes on the local TV channels and I've noticed them. Failure they can't dictate the problem I have the problem I have Thomas they cancel commercials during that time. Richard Baker taken a block of two and half hours and they're trying to stay in business to. I know this is difficult but it wasn't Marotta thousand radio stations. We are on TV.

We are on all the social media platforms and radio TV advertising is drying up right now it's a problem so for a local stations they were in a blackout to 1/2 hours not have commercials that it breaks at me. This is where the repercussions of this are real locally and to what you said the hotel industry has been decimated the travel industry has been decimated. On the other hand, I would say today, there there is a glimmer of hope and that comes from so-called essential businesses, supermarkets and grocery stores, big-box stores, pharmacy, all of those essential businesses are beginning to hire individuals so Walmart, for instance, is planning to hire 150,000 hourly associates to meet increased demand during the corona virus out break Insta cart is planning to hand higher up to 300,000 individuals, so there are some other economic opportunities, but part of what's going on. Of course, is businesses are taking advantage of this crisis to restructure their operation and so some of the retail stores like Macy's and these other stores. They are shrinking. On the other hand so-called essential businesses are beginning to expand. I was also telco Clint that the flip phone get a phone that can handle data because Stan is you said the press conference are being streamed on a zillion sites yet and I think I think during this time.

That's great advice J because like there there are to be restrictions from typical new sources but I do you can get them all over the place online Facebook periscope twitter all different sorts of places and and by the way, it's also a great place to follow a broadcast like the one word were showing you here so I think that's good advice. During this time they don't have to have Internet access those phones now have height of speed to carry live video with just other the phone service I'm you think you just have to adapt to what were situations you cannot rely on the old means of communication that relies Harry said of the old means of employment I did today that on the way in. I was stopped at a Walgreens quickly. They had a couple items I needed. They had a few things I didn't. I was think of the way home.

I have amassed have one mask is the designated person or house is going out right now as we come into the studio and things like that and I decided you instead of stopping by the grocery store on the way home, which is a busier place if I had to do it without you and I would but I ordered on post lights on the land and it's arty at the house or what I needed something those kind of jobs here is talking about housemates Insta Curtis got a two day delay right now you got so there there accidentally deliveries until Monday. If you order today. They need to staff up. It is they say they are staffing up and could do the job in your community. And right now people are actually tipping more than usual that they offer for do it so I bet if it's if you're young enough to do that job is a great way to start getting cash in your pocket immediately ready quickly and not having to travel far from home to get 164 3110 second half hour coming up ACLJ.org case in the Sixth Circuit.

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You can pay for unlimited delivery.

They will go anywhere for anything and it usually within 3040 minutes ramming so you have to give the grocery list to be a little bit more direct with them. I was also done through your smart phone, the Walmart services were here for people on her Facebook. I thought we come in and park they put in your trunk. That's up to a week right now you been like book in the middle the night.

One good sign from all of that was to I think what is people are social distancing because those those without LB backed up his take some two weeks ago you services you can schedule anytime you wanted still edit whatever you wanted your Amazon prime is no Multnomah, no more freight will have that guaranteed today delivering what you are you working now again the same day is usually booked as well for couple of days out or more. But the second part is there are job opportunities in that market to to be part of that to work in that field and those are jobs you kinda click on and and start working each work as much or as little as you want and put some cash in your pocket 1-800-684-3110.

I let's get this more the cause. I think Harry can help us with two stents, Stacy in New Mexico on line 5 Stacy Walker Jay Sekulow live prior getting conflicting about inulin turning dependent and damn I heard that the kids in college because their adult she said file their own taxes and 1200 and then I heard that there can you claim them as dependent claim, let's let's break it down. I would like to stay like this were to come back in the so let's go to fan person Harry college student. Yes, that our dependence are not can it do not receive the money getting if they are claimed as dependents on their parents forms they would not be able to file on their own now. J a look. This is a situation where I think a tax professional should actually look at it because there is still time to file your 2019 taxes and get that. Consider now. I can't say in this particular situation.

When I that we now answer Nokia right but if they are listed on the most recent form that the IRS uses as a dependent on their parents form they would not be eligible for the standard is not eligible.

Also, either for the child extra $5500 for the rest of the child depends that's at 16 at 16 Stacy so are you still claiming that you still claim the dependent college students is a dependent here on The new year than it did. Right on that right she would not quit. They will not qualify my understanding today so I think your analysis is a panacea doesn't fix everything you see about fixes they are talking about where they found some holes like this that we saw yesterday work Congress is figuring out and it was sent in for the FOXBusiness talking about this exact issue of college students yesterday by the weather, let alone for loan issues for count student loans again so there's a lot of benefits that were provided to college students in this there are some holes. Is there always are. With these big, big piece of legislation and they can be filled out. You can see where the issues are. After round one of this working in safety where people still need assistance. If this goes on where people are gonna need assistance is there there kids may still be going to school, they may be doing it online. How are they's.

How should they be structuring this.

How should they be financially structured and get to talk to tax professionals about the superior tax work because these are questions that are affected by your individual return yet elicits heavy a lot for college is to be as many jobs they can do is that like the service industry job. Others, like delivery type jobs steer the waiter jobs of jobs ago. The short-term debt that I could be there probably this summer retirement that summer simply I don't expect a pool remember some nights I canceling some of it by by the DNC moved its way to argue and that's a hopeful man. That's hopeful that Republicans were in August, but who knows some rickety ticket phone calls 164, 31 to go to ACLJ.org as well stay updated with us on all the issues working on is a critical time for our nation and our world with so many challenges facing our country. The work of the American Center for Law and Justice is never been more important during this time of uncertainty. 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It is interesting to see how their advertising trips, car dealerships are still open and happy because he believed service of the cars are the embedded to be essential course to deliver things and in people he built move around but like what Volkswagen's offer now. If you have provided hundred 80 days before you make your first payment six months at six out. That is an interest or no interest no interest and six months to make your first payment so those are the ways to translate getting late the day at least have something on their books coming six months from now realize that network so that to me tells you we were looking at all this and for people who are looking at this as big corporations like Volkswagen they're looking six months down the road before they think they think you can really make a payment before they can make some profit in there trying to do what they can to keep their dealerships alive and keep their inventory followed. Let's go to phones Dandie Michigan online for the Jay Sekulow live your on the air again culture on my question is me and my wife all her taxes and we could do the stimulus to write what I'm hearing is so is the following year when we get we get a refund but governments can get that stimulus check back now. Is that true that's not the stimulus check is a stimulus check is not taxable is not subject to to read. Recall if you if you qualify for your household of husband wife but you file jointly case if you make less than hundred $50,000 hundred, 1990 file jointly you will get the two checks would be $2500 in $2400 is at 2600 that within the do what is the 1250 to 1200 per adult, 500 per our family right and therefore is $2400 minor children okay so $2400 and that's it that's it you get it. They didn't directly deposit you decide that you want music and I want to go to Harry on this because Eric the idea with the stimulus is is to keep people if you're working is to keep the economy moving here. If you're getting the stimulus and you're still employed. They wanted in the economy of import leases a protection or that's the idea. The idea is isolated to continue individual ability to to purchase goods and services going forward. It's very possible. I think Van is black that in the next three, four, five weeks, the government will need to re-examine this but there's really tiered approach to virtually help every single individual and business in the economy through various programs because really what the objective is to ensure that the United States economy doesn't implode. While we deal with this pandemic. At the same time, I would point out that there is a glimmer of hope coming out of countries like Italy, the number of confirmed cases is continuing to drop in Bucks County, Pennsylvania for the decrease in the number of cases in Washington state and Maryland and other states they are reporting that they are not approaching a crisis point in terms of hospital so it is possible that by the middle of the summer within the next couple of weeks that goodness and began to climb the bad news is that we are dealing with. Currently ivory Eric's ears are dull over the next two weeks to answer as many questions about this as we can and you get here take some of the programs were to take the best questions that a been asked over the last two weeks.

Put it together for you broadcast it so you have the answers to this.

Now we can give you individual tax or legal advice but were giving you general principles that elites can have an intelligent conversation with your counterattack yesterday. Are your banks and give the next level with Henry and Ohio Alai five Henry Walker Jay Sekulow live your there.

I if God bless you for your works in goblets United States.

We just had a church board meeting earlier this week in regards to the cares act and how it affects the churches 501(c)(3) of the biggest concern in our congregation and our church board has is that if we accept this and apply for the loan. Don't let anybody off and it is forgivable does that place us under the antidiscrimination laws versus wealth Bible preaches against it does not etc. etc. it does not.

It does not interfere with the tenancy of faith.

It does not interfere with the positions that any religious order or organization or denomination would take so that does not contain what we would call condition precedents. In other words, if you take this money, or condition subsequent note to apply for this money you have to do this condition precedent. If you take this money, you must do that condition something does not exist here. The idea is to keep this is not to do social engineering.

This is to keep your church functioning. That's what the administration trying to do.

That's what Congress is trying to do. Thank you and I getting away gifted churches from the small guesstimate normally is any nonprofits, including the littlest organization.

The church is especially would be excluded from any of these kind of programs pay what you thought about this.

This is really important. Janie and Jordan both said it correctly.

I've been on the phone with leaders Lisa's office this morning he is working very hard to make sure this gets applied correctly and and look some of the banks are not can be familiar with this because of what Jordan just said a typical small business administration loan, a religious element eligibility worksheet would apply. It does not apply to the stimulus dictate just only quickly read this only two conditions apply for this loan number one whether the borrower was operational on February 15 and number two whether the borrower was paying salaries and payroll taxes at that time in all this follow up real quick like treasury got this right about the application in my hand right now. The very first box at the top that you check is a place for nonprofits including churches to apply for this, only those two conditions apply under the statute.

Yes ahead, Henry. I would not. I was on religious liberty advocate, I would not be concerned. I think you're fine now take your church functioning yet taken that's really that is the intention of this is deeply Employed managers organizations ready to go.

As many of had to go online and you do there services. I know I know tithing and gets her off to church is the people are there so I should Harry Heine help this and keep your staff employed on scrub another call you a 164 3110 Erica New Mexico on line 3 Eric Walker Jay Sekulow live by the veteran and I have a child, but I don't think Might be eligible, think again.

I think my understanding is, if you file the tax return last year he filed tax return last year that all of you will pay taxes and you still urge you to get you did not get a direct deposit J depending on if the IRS is amazing when you got a bill out with the second book of the notice that that's all you say unless there may be an option. You may not be in the iris assistant but there will be a portal sector munition talked about this today. You may have to file a very brief form, but you are eligible for the stimulus check so look out for that and I get the dose that should be available@irs.gov. Soon the form for those who are not in the system already but you are eligible to receive the these money satire about us of the politics as well. Patty and California.

96 been home on Patty Walker Jay Sekulow live hi Patty about talking about it a lot and people trying to open our government gets called Alexis that's all and not looking for a couple attempts to take President I would know I handled the and they were not successful, but since Windsor and they were serious and you had died that to you happier investigation by special counsel Bob Muller in volume 1, volume 2, and you had Ukraine which I call volume 3 of which ended up in acquittal and impeachment proceeding. And now you got the potential for volume forms you know we got to do right now. We had to get through this pandemic and you know, even if the Democrats are saying all this nonsense were to report we did, but you know what our focus can be on that focus has to be on for the ACLJ we probably for the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals yesterday. If you think today circuit was yesterday trying to do in our broadcasts is provided as much information to you to help you, our listeners and members to understand what you're entitled to under this relief, which are not entitled to under this relief so that we can move this forward as a country and look where about you know, 13, 14 days away from what is you know probably can be the peak in some bartending fixed income after so we have this be prepared for this.

I will be back with more in a moment. Don't forget work in the ACLJ you can do that it ACLJ.org want to thank Prof. Hutchinson for being with us. Give me a 15 second here when you're looking at it from an economic standpoint, what kind of window this a two-month window that they do.

The stimulus is that the right way to look at it right now government will probably need to make an annual between now and the end. Let's say in order to make sure that the guardrail with respect to the economy a and that we move up.

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Another good friend of mine that the legal counsel for the Ohio state Senate.

They been having to deal with this at the state level with state laws member that's going on as well. Simultaneously with the federal government is doing.

States are also taking action and by the way, Don also worked for the ACLJ and dog your state also was involved in these cases to protect life and with the Planned Parenthood I finally get you because you were one of the first states in Ohio to say no that abortion clinics are not essential businesses for purposes of these shutdowns does great to have you on today tells about that first this that this set. It's a very pro-life government you've had in Ohio and you been on the front lines of a lot of these battles willing to go to court over the issues it's and often times Ohio was the first one sued this time as he was the second state suit were involved in this, not the Sixth Circuit but there's a lot of support for this pro-life legislation and pro-life at this time was an action by the governor and by that date. The leaders there Don to say in Ohio were not to have these essential services of a writer will follow pro-life record going on. Year after year. And what about this case is a pilot supplemental complaint to the heartbeat bill today. Try to get into a judge that already issued a Temporary Restraining Order on that case enjoined into this into their little to say that abortion services despite 2900 cases of coronavirus virus and 81 death that did abortion take precedent over saving lives you just really proud what you're doing and instruments. Another ACLJ alumnus government which is just great Don Lemaster. This adjustments in the numbers in Ohio. Ohio expected those numbers is expected. Those numbers are growing.

What is the plans look like and then selling her anywhere near the apex of the highest point yet well you are now likely protected at least two weeks or four weeks, and now we have updates every day like the case underground or will they been doing successfully keep on keeping people apart and keeping come of it from spreading rapidly by limiting mass gatherings. We started early in March. That's one thing the Navy pushing the tide later out so we don't have a we can build a healthcare infrastructure that we need to get supplies and that is we had during my switch on from Florida the other day and he was on last night on a Tucker Carlson program and that is getting supplies PP equipment. How does that look in Ohio right now because I was just on the phone with someone earlier this week that hey I got a friend in Texas and they got it the ability to get nasty Ohio.

So within an hour. This company called that we are in and they had that information to the lieutenant governor and the governor in their working to procure supplies so we don't have enough stuff yet, but it's sort of the resiliency of the free enterprise system in America today. Okay you need ventilators. The burgers are producing them. One of the senator. The pharmacist get started making Hansen at Kaiser giving it to the emergency responders got people filling that so it's really just eat these American heroes who are stepping up and doing the right thing and not playing in our politics are different state people's lives in Ohio to a country that is again I meet a lot of working people in Ohio I Don and right now a lot of businesses that are able to operate some that would be considered essential, but some like you said, who are there credits changing their business model for for what is good.

What is the psych state legislature looking to do. If this is more like long-term, and this virus is going to be a longer battle than when you thought the initial peak was it we see with the federal government to what you think will be sitting at the state level what's already happening at the state level.

We did last week that focus on a lot of the running of government is closing out golden testing like that and so we had 457,000 unemployment claims in the last two weeks that the hundred thousand more hundred thousand more. There was entirely all of last year so you know trying to coincide with the federal government doing with the paycheck protection elect Pres. Trump is going to provide help the small business people are laying off their employees and try to write it out to that time. But I expect it in June will have some sort of economic focus legislation because this is for people because most as you send most of this task. I want to repeat that again… Those unemployment number six is Ohio. This is an area of the country roaring back with jobs right me.

So the under these last years jobs are coming back there roaring back, but to help tell people about what you've experienced in the last week in Ohio with his is more unemployment than in the entire year before hundred thousand more unemployment application in the last two weeks in all last year, all of last year and up almost 500,000 people your time in Ohio yet.

You know it will overlap eight years and is spending cut taxes and we can grow through that rather than raising taxes elite. We had Ohio on the right track and if I anticipate some sort of economic think we have to balance their budgets. We can't just deduct that spending about when people are working. It doesn't do any good to raise the income tax because you can collect any revenue from that. So I guess I think this would be to see Santa as well. Is this the federal government approach and Don's document to it states not just making the closing decisions which is their initial decisions they made, but next up is Gilby state kind of economic decisions to make as well. As this goes on and you can hear from God, and know this is Ohio to the huge state with your many big cities and industrial cities to for the country that that their planning for long-term care. This is not like that. This is done in two months and it should be Jordan, and I think this is particularly important when it comes to the unemployment insurance portion of this because remember most of that is state administered. The program now expands it for 26 weeks to 39 weeks and put $600 a week on top of what the state is doing the luck. This goes back to the conversation we had earlier this is the immediate response in just a few weeks from now both the states and the federal government are going to have to decide where were adding this and what is necessary next and done everything for you for at those you who do work that you work at the state level and so is a kind like an all hands on deck what you like you were talking that you are you are here, the deputy legal counsel for the Ohio city are working on procurement a mask so that kind of the situation. It is now for government for it free for you all, that are working in the public planning and changing it and typically have competitive bidding like that but it sounds like things are getting better prices now without having to do that because people are saying hey how can we help we have the supplies with them on a 747 will get them over here wherever they're being produced and sent back to Ohio is great to hear and appreciate you off all these different state officials who take the time out this weekend. He got busy a lot of work to do. Update us because we sweettalk switch at the federal approach we hear from you that we hear from other callers called from states around the country to let you kind of an insight into what states are doing even see the change this week from when we had Gerard from Florida document the 3M issue in the present, enacting the Presidential other than that the declaration of the BPA together DPA on 3M.I really appreciate Don Parsons, deputy legal counsel for the Ohio Senate. Don, thanks for being with us today. All right, folks gratified by the way, did you and JB and Jared and Don all friends, all went to college and law school together and can work. Everybody, yup, and to give you an update to about what happened at the state level and see you here, Ohio's acute economic issues. The next legislative state. Next time ACL data at the American Center for Law and Justice were critical issues at home and abroad for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ challenge for every dollar you donate, it will be $10 gift becomes $20, $50 gift becomes 100 can make a difference in protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms to you and your family. Give a gift today online okay